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Author Topic: [ANN] microCoin MRC - alcurEX - Scrypt-Jane - nFactor  (Read 374701 times)
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April 14, 2014, 12:59:03 AM
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Is alcurex still in development? Can someone show some updates?

Yes, major bugs fixed, halibit testing it this weekend, soon will be short (hope) beta test  Roll Eyes

Thats awesome news!

What does the community feel about MRC eventually becoming POS?

The option is already in the wallet, just needs implementing...
What kind of POS settings you are thinking?

I'm not to sure about the back end but annual inflation of around 1-6% seems favorable at the moment.

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April 14, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
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I've not been looking in on MRC in a while. Are there any plans for a multipool as BC & now ZEIT have that have seen price go UPPPPP which is what this coin needs before its funeral is arranged  Roll Eyes Then again if mining is still happening will it be worthwhile?
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April 14, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
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I've not been looking in on MRC in a while. Are there any plans for a multipool as BC & now ZEIT have that have seen price go UPPPPP which is what this coin needs before its funeral is arranged  Roll Eyes Then again if mining is still happening will it be worthwhile?

yes but when the scrypt asics come out, do you think the multipools still going to rape the other scrypt coins? the price seems artificial - what happens if there were no multipool buying/paying out in BC/ZEIT to create a constant demand ?? do you think prices will go up?

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April 14, 2014, 03:04:28 AM
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So, new nFactor causes significant dropping of GPU performance. I've got around 38KH/sec from single R9 280x with I=11 (it was 140KH/sec in previous nFactor).
It seems that I need to increase RAM (8GB in the present situation) for setting higher values of Thread Concurrency.
MRC is going to be more a CPU coin than GPU. Miners can decide to don't waste GPU resources for MRC.

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April 14, 2014, 04:40:37 AM
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So, new nFactor causes significant dropping of GPU performance. I've got around 38KH/sec from single R9 280x with I=11 (it was 140KH/sec in previous nFactor).
It seems that I need to increase RAM (8GB in the present situation) for setting higher values of Thread Concurrency.
MRC is going to be more a CPU coin than GPU. Miners can decide to don't waste GPU resources for MRC.
But be still don't have working CPU miner lol
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April 14, 2014, 04:44:43 AM
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can't find settings for r9 270  Sad

My best setting so far for R9 270. I got stable 28 KH/s without any HW:

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microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mrc.nut2pools.com:6000 -u XXX -p YYY --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 --thread-concurrency 38400 --lookup-gap 3 -w 256 -g 1 --no-submit-stale --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0

I think it is possible to archive better Hashrate if I could attach more physical memory (to 8GB - my current is 4GB). If so, I could increase TC and reduce lookup-gap back to 2.

Based on the previous-N Hashrate, the current N-factor hashrate of 270 should be arround 45 KH/s. Anyone could archive this, please share! Thanks.
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April 14, 2014, 04:47:02 AM
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So, new nFactor causes significant dropping of GPU performance. I've got around 38KH/sec from single R9 280x with I=11 (it was 140KH/sec in previous nFactor).
It seems that I need to increase RAM (8GB in the present situation) for setting higher values of Thread Concurrency.
MRC is going to be more a CPU coin than GPU. Miners can decide to don't waste GPU resources for MRC.

Theoretically if you could find the optimal setting, your 280X could get 70KH/sec (Hashrate is reduced half when N increase 1).

And yes, now the coin is not favor GPU, nor ASIC, it is hard to mine MRC. What happen next? I believe the price then will increase soon Smiley
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April 14, 2014, 05:42:00 AM
Last edit: April 14, 2014, 06:11:06 AM by Del137
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If you lucky and has enougth RAM - intensity 12 without errors
But for me its worked with dIfferent threads, like 32000

BTW i has 16 GB ram and think its not main cause.

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April 14, 2014, 05:50:25 AM
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My best setting so far for R9 270. I got stable 28 KH/s without any HW:

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microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mrc.nut2pools.com:6000 -u XXX -p YYY --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 --thread-concurrency 38400 --lookup-gap 3 -w 256 -g 1 --no-submit-stale --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0



I get 2 khashes with such settings, maybe there is a mistake somewhere?

someone with working settings, please, share with us

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April 14, 2014, 06:10:45 AM
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My best setting so far for R9 270. I got stable 28 KH/s without any HW:

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microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mrc.nut2pools.com:6000 -u XXX -p YYY --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 --thread-concurrency 38400 --lookup-gap 3 -w 256 -g 1 --no-submit-stale --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0



I get 2 khashes with such settings, maybe there is a mistake somewhere?

Please read my post above. Lower --thread-concurrency from 38400 to 32000 for exAMPLE, if not working - play with it, try 31k, 30k... etc.

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April 14, 2014, 06:18:37 AM
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My best setting so far for R9 270. I got stable 28 KH/s without any HW:

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microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mrc.nut2pools.com:6000 -u XXX -p YYY --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 --thread-concurrency 38400 --lookup-gap 3 -w 256 -g 1 --no-submit-stale --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0



I get 2 khashes with such settings, maybe there is a mistake somewhere?

Please read my post above. Lower --thread-concurrency from 38400 to 32000 for exAMPLE, if not working - play with it, try 31k, 30k... etc.

checked everything froom 38k to 18k and still getting  2 khashes

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April 14, 2014, 06:20:50 AM
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Hmm... strange, what exach card you have?  Maybe lower back to --lookup-gap 2

Mine settings with two MSI R9 270x

"intensity" : "12,12",
"vectors" : "1,1",
"worksize" : "256,256",
"kernel" : "scrypt,scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "3,3",
"thread-concurrency" : "33200,33500",
"shaders" : "0,0",
"gpu-engine" : "1100-1150,1100-1150",
"gpu-fan" : "100-100,100-100",
"gpu-memclock" : "0,0",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0,0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0,0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000,0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95,95",
"temp-overheat" : "85,85",
"temp-target" : "75,75",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "10",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"log" : "1",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "1",
"scrypt" : true,
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

Getting like 31 Kh/s with each

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April 14, 2014, 06:30:27 AM
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have msi gaming and gigabyte 270s
with --lookup-gap 2 miner crashes. thanks for ypur help but still i can't find proper settings.
 I think i'll wait for more poeple to share their batfiles. and now i'm switching to doge(

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April 14, 2014, 06:54:21 AM
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ok, manage to get more out of mr R9 290 tri-x OC, this morning it was 38khs per card, now I manage to get 59khs per card  Grin, everytime i try and get it to where i think it should be ie 85khs, it crashes.

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April 14, 2014, 08:22:41 AM
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and this is the problem of this coin. the community. i bet my ass on that about 100 people are already happily mining with new settings but they don't want to share because they want more coins. the same is with this exchange. they won't launch it till their pockets are full enough. pity.

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April 14, 2014, 08:35:08 AM
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and this is the problem of this coin. the community. i bet my ass on that about 100 people are already happily mining with new settings but they don't want to share because they want more coins. the same is with this exchange. they won't launch it till their pockets are full enough. pity.

Hello, what cards you have? I (and ANYONE here) can share with you settings, its SO simply that even i myself (i'm a lawyer and faaar from computers software) can do it in 10 minutes just trying.

I can freely share settings i found for r9 280x ASUS and r9 270x MSI, never heard its a big trouble here  Roll Eyes

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--scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879  -w 256 -v 1 -I 11 -g 2 -l 1   --thread-concurrency 19000 --gpu-powertune 0  --gpu-fan 100 --no-submit-stale --scan-time 1 --expiry 8 
  - this for 280x
and for 270x i already shared above

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April 14, 2014, 08:41:30 AM
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Anyone mining with 290x ? Post your results here.
We are testing new settings and will post the best config later.

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April 14, 2014, 08:56:53 AM
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btw nice trade volume on mintpal today, 2.5btc traded

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April 14, 2014, 09:04:16 AM
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Hello Guys,

I can share some mining configs with you.

First you have to download Yacminer - https://github.com/Thirtybird/YACMiner/releases/download/3.5.0-yac2/yacminer-3.5.0-yac2-x86.zip
These configs works on systems with more than 4GB RAM.

Config for 290x - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 3532 -R 10496
Config for 290 - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 3420 -X 32
Config for 280x - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 2590 -R 7680
Config for 280 - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 2394 -X 32
Config for 270x - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 1648 -R 4864
Config for 7950 - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 2394 -X 32
Config for 7970 - yacminer --scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1389028879 --worksize 128 -g 1 --lookup-gap 3 --buffer-size 2590 -R 7680

Tips on tuning your GPU to mine Microcoin
--buffer-size XXXX (-B XXXX):
This setting sets the size of the OpenCL buffer to allocate to each thread. This option overrides --thread-concurrency, and should be used instead of it if your miner supports it. This value should be based on the amount of available memory on your GPU. This setting is NOT affected by lookup-gap meaning that other tuning parameters that you want to test will not force you to recalculate your buffer-size. The only setting that will make you want to change this is the --gpu-threads (-g) setting. As buffer-size is the amount of memory to allocate per thread, if you increase the number of threads you are launching, you will want to decrease the buffer-size of each thread to ensure all of the memory resides in Dedicated GPU memory instead of rolling over to Dynamic.
As the NFactor for Microcoin increases, the amount of memory that is needed to perform a single calculation rises. The more memory that can be allocated per thread, the better the performance that typically can be achieved.
SUMMARY: adjust this value first - Run GPUz of HWInfo to monitor the amount of dedicated memory used on the card until it moves into the dynamic column, then reduce it back down. YACMiner will tell you at the start how much memory has been allocated per thread

--lookup-gap X:
This tunes a compromise between ram usage and performance. Performance peaks at a gap of 2, but increasing the gap may allow you to run at a higher rate as more shaders in the card get utilized. Setting lookup gap overrides the default of 4.
SUMMARY: Start at 2, and try 4 through 8. Adjust your intensity setting (-R/-X/-I) to higher values as the lookup-gap increases.

--worksize XXX (-w 256):
Has a minor effect, should be a multiple of 32 up to 256 maximum. This sets the smallest size of work being sent to the GPU, and on older cards and/or drivers affects the values allowed in Raw Intensity.
SUMMARY: Higher values are better for cards with higher shader counts and 7XXX series cards and newer. Lower values for older cards give finer ranges of Raw Intensity to maximize performance.

--rawintensity XXXX (-R XXXX) This setting allows for a much more preceise intensity setting and can recognize significant gains when mining Microcoin
Note: make sure to use much lower raw-intensity values when you increase cpu threads (-g).
The original Intensity setting is currently used to spawn GPU threads as a simple 2^value setting.

  I:8  =     128 threads
  I:8  =     256 threads
  I:9  =     512 threads
  I:10 =    1024 threads
  I:11 =    2048 threads
  I:12 =    4096 threads
  I:13 =    8192 threads

Notice how the higher settings increase thread count tremendously.
It's now much easier to control thread intensity specifically and it potentially allows for a uniform way of setting the intensity on your system.

Valid values for raw-intensity are safest to be set as a multiple of --worksize. Newer drivers and/or cards may allow for adjustment in smaller increments - in some cases, this can be adjusted in in increments of 1.

--xintensity XX (-X XX)
When you have enough GPU memory allocated to fully utilize all shaders on your GPU, use this for intensity control as it will spawn threads as a multiple of how many shaders are on your GPU. This setting will be best starting at 4, and increases can be had by going up to 32 or as high as 128. Very large values for this may cause instability or driver crashes for very little gain - consider 128 to be the max.
Optional parameters for tuning:
--gpu-threads X (-g X):
Some people who have systems where the GPUs have large amounts of memory and low amounts of system memory will need to run multiple CPU threads so that all of the GPU memory can be allocated. This is because the OpenCL buffer is built in system memory and passed to the GPU. This defaults to 1, however values of 1, 2, 3 & 4 can all produce similar results.
SUMMARY: Run 1 unless your card has more than 2GB of memory and you cannot allocate all of that memory with just 1 thread.
Other available parameters that have better alternatives:
--thread-concurrency XXXXX:
This option may be depreciated in your mining software depreciated. It is still available for those people who like to do math on really high numbers that have to change when any other parameter needs to change. I strongly recommend utilizing the --buffer-size option instead. This setting adjusts the size of the OpenCL buffer to allocate to each thread. This value should be based on the amount of available memory on your GPU. This setting is affected by lookup-gap as well, utilizing the following formula for lookup-gaps of 1,2 & 4

MB per thread = thread-concurrency * 128 / (1024 * lookup-gap)
A good example of this: lookup-gap of 2, thread-concurrency of 8192 = 512 MB

As the NFactor for a Microcoin increases, the amount of memory that is needed to perform a single calculation rises. The more memory that can be allocated per thread, the better the performance that typically can be achieved.
SUMMARY: Use --buffer-size instead

--intensity XX (-I XX)
Just like in bitcoin mining, Microcoin mining takes an intensity, however the scale goes from 0 to 20 to mimic the "Aggression" used in mtrlt's reaper. The reason this is crucial is that too high an intensity can actually be disastrous with Microcoin because it can run out of memory and you will receive HW errors. High intensities start writing over the same ram and it is highly dependent on the GPU, but they can start actually DECREASING your hashrate, or even worse, start producing garbage with HW errors skyrocketing.
SUMMARY: Setting this for reasonable hashrates is mandatory. This setting is not recommended for Microcoin - use --raw-intensity

All the info is from Ultracoin forum.
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April 14, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
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I calculated all the Nfactors for the coming two years for microCoins as follows:

Nfmin=4, Nfmax=30, StartT=1388710185, YearSpan=2
initial Nfactor = 4, time_t = 1388710185,  19:49:45 Thursday, January 02, 2014
    new Nfactor = 5, time_t = 1389234473,  21:27:53 Wednesday, January 08, 2014
    new Nfactor = 6, time_t = 1389496617,  22:16:57 Saturday, January 11, 2014
    new Nfactor = 7, time_t = 1389758761,  23:06:01 Tuesday, January 14, 2014
    new Nfactor = 8, time_t = 1390545193,  01:33:13 Friday, January 24, 2014
    new Nfactor = 9, time_t = 1390807337,  02:22:17 Monday, January 27, 2014
    new Nfactor = 10, time_t = 1392904489,  08:54:49 Thursday, February 20, 2014
    new Nfactor = 11, time_t = 1393953065,  12:11:05 Tuesday, March 04, 2014
    new Nfactor = 12, time_t = 1397098793,  22:59:53 Wednesday, April 09, 2014
    new Nfactor = 13, time_t = 1401293097,  12:04:57 Wednesday, May 28, 2014
    new Nfactor = 14, time_t = 1405487401,  01:10:01 Wednesday, July 16, 2014
    new Nfactor = 15, time_t = 1422264617,  04:30:17 Monday, January 26, 2015
    new Nfactor = 16, time_t = 1430653225,  07:40:25 Sunday, May 03, 2015

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getnf version 0.20 Usage:
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getnf <Nfmin> <Nfmax> <StartT> <YearSpan> <Enter>
getnf <Enter> default to 12 30 <current time> <1 year span>
getnf 12 30 1375817223 1 <Enter> for ZCC 1 year span
getnf 4 30 1387769316 2 <Enter> for QQC 2 years span
getnf 4 30 1388710185 2 <Enter> for MCR 2 years span

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