gnar1ta$
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December 24, 2011, 12:56:59 AM |
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I really don't see this as that big of an issue. There are free wallet services available. This wallet has great features. If the features are not worth the price to you, use a different service. That's why competition is good, it gives you the choice of features and prices you are comfortable with. I would pay a monthly fee for no ads. And I do like the tiered/capped structure offered.
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netrin
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December 24, 2011, 01:20:49 AM |
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Where is a scrambler on your roadmap? That is a feature for which I would likely pay (though not 1%), and its network vortex effect would be very beneficial for you (and your customers).
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piuk (OP)
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December 24, 2011, 01:21:50 AM |
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Depending on the popularity of the site, ads are a good way.
The site already has advertising from cryptoexchange. Their Ad fits well into the design and is reputable, I don't want to have to add load of crappy Ads which just annoy people. Than you should ask the fee only for big transaction.
The problem with having fees for only large transactions is as I have no control over people's private keys they can just sign them using some other method. if the fee for transaction is 1 cent but it takes ten minutes to export your keys and sign tow transaction using some other method then your probably not going to bother, but if the fee is $10 then it is worth the extra time. Another proposal:Fees are optionally selected with a checkbox on the send transaction form. Making a certain number of paid transactions unlocks features in the interface. For example: 1 paid transaction per month enables live updating via web sockets. 2 paid transactions per month increases max number of addresses to 1000 3 paid transactions per month enables notifications Might help encourage people to actually spend their bitcoins as well.
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piuk (OP)
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December 24, 2011, 01:22:49 AM |
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Where is a scrambler on your roadmap? That is a feature for which I would likely pay (though not 1%), and its network vortex effect would be very beneficial for you (and your customers).
Scrambler? Do you mean a laundry type service?
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netrin
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December 24, 2011, 01:38:21 AM |
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Yes washing multiple users' laundry simultaneously so that I get Unle Tom's underwear and Sally receives my socks. Fees are optionally selected with a checkbox on the send transaction form. Making a certain number of paid transactions unlocks features in the interface. For example:
1 paid transaction per month enables live updating via web sockets.
2 paid transactions per month increases max number of addresses to 1000
3 paid transactions per month enables notifications
Might work if not too complicated/intrusive. Limiting the wallet byte size and transaction frequency could align proportional to your own costs.
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BkkCoins
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December 24, 2011, 01:49:09 AM |
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I tend to favour a variant of the last suggested. Basic service, free. More features, pay. But you wouldn't want to base it on transaction count as it's easy for someone to push a bunch of low value trx. just to get the features enabled.
Maybe indicate an optional fee as editable value. Then have a link to a menu of monthly fee vs. features. Users can choose to pay more or less but features are enabled according to past contributions (maybe over some window period). Maybe counted as credits instead of btc so you can revalue them easily.
I would have thought that google ads (text only) would have been a low-key more profitable revenue stream though. I've used that and at first it's peanuts but when you have thousands/millions of regular visitors it is huge. Look at PlentyofFish.com making $1 million/month with 2 million users (few years back now). You have the potential here that when Bitcoin really catches on, and you have situated yourself as the dominant wallet player due to exposure and feature set, you may end up with millions of regulars. You wouldn't want to lose the dominant position because users went elsewhere due to no fees.
I think also you could take a lesson from the Paypal play book. They don't charge to send money, only to receive it - because businesses see value in being able to receive more money but buyers are turned off by fees. Same goes for credit cards.
There are probably lots of creative value added features that could be charged for. Some you mention but also maybe escrow or advanced management, merchant services, reporting etc.
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BkkCoins
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December 24, 2011, 02:03:45 AM |
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I just don't think you should want to do ANYTHING to suppress testing and growth at this early stage of your project. What you are essentially saying is "please do not test transactions unless you are sending real money" and so I have not.
The site has nearly 1000 wallets now and barring one severe bug there having been few issues reported. I'm not saying it doesn't need more testing but the site is production ready now. I don't think it's testing for you. It's new users testing your site for themselves to understand how it works and gain trust. I know for me it takes time to gain faith that this is workable for me. Even though I know you're not offering the same technology as MyBitcoin.com (whose name is already fading into bitdust) each new user has to trust the site, test it, see how well it works for them and then hopefully tell all their friends. There is still an element of trust here as it's possible that one day JS code gets swapped and the user doesn't know. It's also possible to be the target of fake sites or CSS or MITM attacks.
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December 24, 2011, 04:50:50 PM |
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why does the last address under Receive Money "not sync" until i generate another address?
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Stephen Gornick
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December 28, 2011, 10:31:13 PM |
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Ha! This is awesome. I am able to create a Send transaction to spend the funds received to My Wallet immediately -- before there is one confirmation even!
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December 29, 2011, 01:00:09 AM |
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is piuk still charging a 1% fee? i don't see it listed anywhere on his site.
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December 29, 2011, 01:40:22 AM |
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Perhaps you can charge for your web services that has the bitcoin data. In a couple of months I will need a service to get this data reliably. Would be willing to share any profits, if I make any.
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piuk (OP)
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December 29, 2011, 01:11:56 PM |
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is piuk still charging a 1% fee? i don't see it listed anywhere on his site.
Fees are on the FAQ http://blockchain.info/wallet/faq and shown before you send a transaction. Something is wrong with the site right now ... recent blocks aren't showing up.
Blocks seem to be stalling occasionally, not sure why. I'm on holiday until the 3rd so can not take a look until then.
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December 29, 2011, 05:11:19 PM |
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Something is wrong with the site right now ... recent blocks aren't showing up.
Blocks seem to be stalling occasionally, not sure why. I'm on holiday until the 3rd so can not take a look until then. what version are you on ? i have the same issue with 0.5.1 (client and daemon - linux), it stalls block receiving for hours with over 40 active connections. Never had this happen on 0.4 though
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netrin
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December 29, 2011, 06:40:23 PM |
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You might want to mention fees on the 'wallet' page. I was aware of fees and yet couldn't find it.
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December 29, 2011, 06:55:43 PM |
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You might want to mention fees on the 'wallet' page. I was aware of fees and yet couldn't find it.
i can't even find the FAQ link he posted above.
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December 30, 2011, 03:53:13 PM |
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I can't load Blockchain.info website today. it is turning in browser but I don't get website.
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debit cards websites are companies registered in London by Lithuanians who demand from you your phone, ID and utility bill, that's enough for them to make offshore companies on your name without your knowledge and they can get a bank account and make financial crimes on your name, or they can simply sell IDs. don't give to anyone too much info. why they need more than your ID when your local bank demands only ID? don't use coinbase, they are NSA spying shit, they make database of people that use bitcoins.
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January 03, 2012, 09:28:29 AM |
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Chart data is stuck? Flatlined at 0 for current day (on charts where market price is used). [edited]
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piuk (OP)
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January 04, 2012, 01:19:05 AM |
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Chart data is stuck? Flatlined at 0 for current day (on charts where market price is used). [edited]
Should be ok now. Resumed development again today, started alerts & iPhone app
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gnar1ta$
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January 04, 2012, 01:30:14 AM |
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Resumed development again today, started alerts & iPhone app
please tell me you mean an actual usable app with the same features as the site?
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Stephen Gornick
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January 04, 2012, 03:41:10 AM |
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Resumed development again today, started alerts & iPhone app Needs a support service, like UserVoice or something. Maybe OSQA (Python, open source)? So that this thread doesn't get the minutia, such as this: http://www.blockchain.info. (trailing dot messes things)
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