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January 12, 2014, 02:09:31 PM |
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Aliencoin mining pool - aln.happyminers.nethttps://i.imgur.com/cMZUpcK.png*PRE-REGISTER* Pool information: - 0% fee -PROP system -Vardiff stratum -Minimum payout - 1 ALN -Better faster stronger server: 16 core, 32gb ram, ssd drivers Get ready your workers. Sample for cgminer: cgminer.exe --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://s3.happyminers.net:3113 -u Weblogin.Worker -p PassWorker -I 13 Sample for minerd(cpuminer): minerd.exe --url stratum+tcp://s3.happyminers.net:3113 --userpass Weblogin.Worker:PassWorker
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dotnetmin
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January 12, 2014, 02:34:20 PM |
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DEV - are the pools the same than yesterday or must new accounts be created
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 02:49:22 PM |
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At http://aln.poolerino.com the accounts stay, so you dont have to register again. DEV - are the pools the same than yesterday or must new accounts be created
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pbjam
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January 12, 2014, 02:50:11 PM |
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Hello.
First of all I would like to offer a statement of apology to everyone, the coin launch was a failure and the source was invalid due to human error. The error should never have happened but it did, instead of a 1% premine it was in fact a 100% premine, all due to human error. It was a costly mistake by the dev team but decision was taken to stop all mining and have a relaunch of the coin. In the strongest terms possible this was not planned to have a 100% premine becuase this is just ridiculous to think that a coin would survive like that with the dev team holding all the coins. All being said everyone is open and welcome to there own opinions and views and should be expressed if they feel so. The coin will be relaunched because the team of Aliencoin strongly believe that the coin can be a success and from now on the dev team will put in even more hard work to make sure of this. I would also like to apologise and thank the pool owners for the help they have given and support they have showed. Thank you also for the miners who have an understanding of our apology. Lessons have been learnt at a cost but we are now looking forward to the re-launch. Everybody is free to mine which ever coin they wish and if you continue to offer support towards Aliencoin then it is mostly appreciated.
Updates Will follow shortly
Thanks again
You say it was a human error that the premine was 200,000,000 but anyone who has programmed a coin would know that you have to also set the limit for the number of coins available. If you "accidentally" mined 100% of the coin then no one should have been able to generate more coins than that.You also "accidentally" set the limit for there to be more than 200,000,000 coins available - that is how i know for sure you are lying. Anyone who is planning to stick with this coin when it relaunches - keep in mind that you won't know for months, or even years if this dev has actually set a limit on the number of coins available. Do you really want to wait to find out?
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Aliencoin (OP)
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January 12, 2014, 03:11:10 PM |
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Hello.
First of all I would like to offer a statement of apology to everyone, the coin launch was a failure and the source was invalid due to human error. The error should never have happened but it did, instead of a 1% premine it was in fact a 100% premine, all due to human error. It was a costly mistake by the dev team but decision was taken to stop all mining and have a relaunch of the coin. In the strongest terms possible this was not planned to have a 100% premine becuase this is just ridiculous to think that a coin would survive like that with the dev team holding all the coins. All being said everyone is open and welcome to there own opinions and views and should be expressed if they feel so. The coin will be relaunched because the team of Aliencoin strongly believe that the coin can be a success and from now on the dev team will put in even more hard work to make sure of this. I would also like to apologise and thank the pool owners for the help they have given and support they have showed. Thank you also for the miners who have an understanding of our apology. Lessons have been learnt at a cost but we are now looking forward to the re-launch. Everybody is free to mine which ever coin they wish and if you continue to offer support towards Aliencoin then it is mostly appreciated.
Updates Will follow shortly
Thanks again
You say it was a human error that the premine was 200,000,000 but anyone who has programmed a coin would know that you have to also set the limit for the number of coins available. If you "accidentally" mined 100% of the coin then no one should have been able to generate more coins than that.You also "accidentally" set the limit for there to be more than 200,000,000 coins available - that is how i know for sure you are lying. Anyone who is planning to stick with this coin when it relaunches - keep in mind that you won't know for months, or even years if this dev has actually set a limit on the number of coins available. Do you really want to wait to find out? The developer confirmed he set the total supply to 200-million, it could of been a mix up with the 0s for the pre-mine & the actual total supply but at the end of the day it was just a plain human error which will not be happening again. This second launch will we make sure everything is set in place and the developers are set ready for a stable and fair launch. We've learnt from the last launch & we have improved, Humans race will be conquered! For that last comment, we can confirm it has a total of 200-Million coins, I repeat Aliencoin has a total of 200-Million coins. I respect your opinions and its truly up to you what you decide to mine, but however if you do wish to stick by with Aliencoin I will be more than happy to greet you on board and that goes out to all miners. Kind regards
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pbjam
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January 12, 2014, 03:16:46 PM |
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If the total supply was set to 200,000,000 and you mined 200,000,000 then how is it even possible there were coins available to mine? 200,000,000 - 200,000,000 = 0. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not a mix up, that's simple math. you're a fraud, you're a liar and you planned this. you got caught red handed and now you're just going to lie to everyone about it. the facts are you lied about the total number of coins so that you could lie about the premine, I wonder what other lies we haven't even caught you in yet?
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 03:22:02 PM |
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And you got NO Idea at all how coins work.... doh! If the total supply was set to 200,000,000 and you mined 200,000,000 then how is it even possible there were coins available to mine? 200,000,000 - 200,000,000 = 0. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not a mix up, that's simple math. you're a fraud, you're a liar and you planned this. you got caught red handed and now you're just going to lie to everyone about it. the facts are you lied about the total number of coins so that you could lie about the premine, I wonder what other lies we haven't even caught you in yet?
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January 12, 2014, 03:24:30 PM |
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If the total supply was set to 200,000,000 and you mined 200,000,000 then how is it even possible there were coins available to mine? 200,000,000 - 200,000,000 = 0. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not a mix up, that's simple math. you're a fraud, you're a liar and you planned this. you got caught red handed and now you're just going to lie to everyone about it. the facts are you lied about the total number of coins so that you could lie about the premine, I wonder what other lies we haven't even caught you in yet? Why would they lie about the total number of coins when there is block explorers to see the the transactions lol, especially taking 200m for the pre-mine which was the total amount of coins.. They wouldn't of done that, so i have to disagree with you.
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January 12, 2014, 03:24:59 PM |
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Could anyone post a cgminer .config file please? I want to try solo mining for the first time. I will give a DOGE donation if you do, so please post your address ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 03:30:37 PM |
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My cgminer.bat for coins solo: setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 cgminer-3.7.2-windows\cgminer.exe --scrypt -o 127.0.0.1:RPCPORTNUMBER -u USERNAM -p PASSWORD --gpu-platform 1 --device 0 -w 256 --vectors 1 -I 13 -g 1 --log 1 --thread-concurrency 8192 --shaders 2048 --queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1
pause Could anyone post a cgminer .config file please? I want to try solo mining for the first time. I will give a DOGE donation if you do, so please post your address ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 12, 2014, 03:38:44 PM |
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instead of a 1% premine it was in fact a 100% premine
1% is still too much. It's 2 million coins, block reward is 40. That is 50 thousand mined blocks worth. Way way way too much. Let's imagine this gets to be on an exchange: The average joe with 1mh/s will make maybe 200 coins on a pool during the first days. To get any kind of reward that is worth even logging in to an exchange, ALN should be valued about the same as what you get when mining other coins. You'll make about 0.01 BTC a day with 1mh/s mining other coins. So, if 200 coins should be worth about 0.01 BTC, the market value should be around 1 ALN = .00005 BTC. This would make the 2M premine worth 100 BTC = 100,000 USD. Do you think that's fair compensation for your efforts with this coin? Yes yes, you claim most of it will be used as giveaways (printing free money always devalues the existing money, making mining less profitable), bounties (for what? services should be profitable on their own and you already have wallets and what not) and who knows what. There's no guarrantee that you will do so, which makes it a risk to add this coin to any exchange as long as you're sitting on the coin pile. Even after maybe two years of the network mining the coin, you are still sitting on nearly half of all the coins in circulation. You can sell at any price since you didn't invest anything (except maybe few hours of work replacing the logos and coin names on the wallet and posting on bitcointalk) so for miners there is a huge risk that by mining this coin, it will not be profitable at all. If you dump your stash at 0.000001 BTC per ALN, the average miners will pay more for electricity and lose profits from not mining the actually profitable coins, making mining your coin cost them instead of profiting them. You are trying to make a profit and dump your stash whenever someone is willing to buy any. No one believes otherwise. Just admit it.
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 03:43:22 PM |
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Sorry but..... how many premined BTC were there first place ? LTC ? Other coins names here pls, that do well at exchanges these days..... instead of a 1% premine it was in fact a 100% premine
1% is still too much. It's 2 million coins, block reward is 40. That is 50 thousand mined blocks worth. Way way way too much. Let's imagine this gets to be on an exchange: The average joe with 1mh/s will make maybe 200 coins on a pool during the first days. To get any kind of reward that is worth even logging in to an exchange, ALN should be valued about the same as what you get when mining other coins. You'll make about 0.01 BTC a day with 1mh/s mining other coins. So, if 200 coins should be worth about 0.01 BTC, the market value should be around 1 ALN = .00005 BTC. This would make the 2M premine worth 100 BTC = 100,000 USD. Do you think that's fair compensation for your efforts with this coin? Yes yes, you claim most of it will be used as giveaways (printing free money always devalues the existing money, making mining less profitable), bounties (for what? services should be profitable on their own and you already have wallets and what not) and who knows what. There's no guarrantee that you will do so, which makes it a risk to add this coin to any exchange as long as you're sitting on the coin pile. Even after maybe two years of the network mining the coin, you are still sitting on nearly half of all the coins in circulation. You can sell at any price since you didn't invest anything (except maybe few hours of work replacing the logos and coin names on the wallet and posting on bitcointalk) so for miners there is a huge risk that by mining this coin, it will not be profitable at all. If you dump your stash at 0.000001 BTC per ALN, the average miners will pay more for electricity and lose profits from not mining the actually profitable coins, making mining your coin cost them instead of profiting them. You are trying to make a profit and dump your stash whenever someone is willing to buy any. No one believes otherwise. Just admit it.
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January 12, 2014, 03:52:20 PM |
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Sorry but..... how many premined BTC were there first place ? LTC ? Other coins names here pls, that do well at exchanges these days.....
DOGE and CAT, Netcoin, Florincoin, Worldcoin were not premined at all and they're still alive. MOON wasn't either but it's nearly done for, atleast for BTC markets since the value has been at 1 satoshi for so long.
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January 12, 2014, 03:54:40 PM |
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If the total supply was set to 200,000,000 and you mined 200,000,000 then how is it even possible there were coins available to mine? 200,000,000 - 200,000,000 = 0. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not a mix up, that's simple math. you're a fraud, you're a liar and you planned this. you got caught red handed and now you're just going to lie to everyone about it. the facts are you lied about the total number of coins so that you could lie about the premine, I wonder what other lies we haven't even caught you in yet? Why would they lie about the total number of coins when there is block explorers to see the the transactions lol, especially taking 200m for the pre-mine which was the total amount of coins.. They wouldn't of done that, so i have to disagree with you. If there are only 200,000,000 coins then how were people able to mine thousands above that limit? If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but please explain how the valid blockchain showed an additional 40,000+ coins.
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January 12, 2014, 03:58:47 PM |
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Could anyone post a cgminer .config file please? I want to try solo mining for the first time. I will give a DOGE donation if you do, so please post your address ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+solo+mine
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 03:59:15 PM |
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It was a ERROR. Instead of that 200 Mil total calculated (and its never 200 mil in total +- 0) they had 400 Mil in the source , so 400 Mil - 200 Mil = 200 Mil rest. Coin Dev can correct me if im wrong.
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January 12, 2014, 04:01:44 PM |
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If the total supply was set to 200,000,000 and you mined 200,000,000 then how is it even possible there were coins available to mine? 200,000,000 - 200,000,000 = 0. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not a mix up, that's simple math. you're a fraud, you're a liar and you planned this. you got caught red handed and now you're just going to lie to everyone about it. the facts are you lied about the total number of coins so that you could lie about the premine, I wonder what other lies we haven't even caught you in yet? Why would they lie about the total number of coins when there is block explorers to see the the transactions lol, especially taking 200m for the pre-mine which was the total amount of coins.. They wouldn't of done that, so i have to disagree with you. If there are only 200,000,000 coins then how were people able to mine thousands above that limit? If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but please explain how the valid blockchain showed an additional 40,000+ coins. pbjam and the rest of us deserse answers....It's less than 2 hours from launch and something is not right here...
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 04:03:04 PM |
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Your #1 Pool-Provider is also avail for Aliencoin (ALN) now!http://aln.poolerino.com/0% Fee 12+12 Core Intel Live-Chat! 6 x SSD HDD RAID 10 (400 mb/s) Stratum VARDIFF Every 2 Min block stats update Instant payout once a block is confirmed PROP Payout Payouts every minute DDOS Protection Mobile friendly interface. (tablet and phone) Dedicated Staff (We are here everyday for you) own and improved MPOS Version (Managed by one of the MPOS developers) Sample cgminer.exe: cgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://aln.poolerino.com:3340 -u Weblogin.Worker -p Worker password Relaunch with us in 3 hours ! http://aln.poolerino.com/
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January 12, 2014, 04:05:18 PM |
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If you want a reborn, 0% Premine, if not ... you mine alone.
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Mikellev
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January 12, 2014, 04:07:58 PM |
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This is simply not fair. Weg got more then 1500 workers and 1.5 gh/s in first minutes hammering our servers. Whole pool dev team was online and working to keep servers running. And I said it 10 times now, will do it again: With a new coin: MINE SOLO ! Never again Poolerino at a new coin launch. They work fine for some coins I mine, but only after a lot of fixes.
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