★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ Core v6.16.5.1 - DigiShield, DigiSpeed, Segwit

[DigiByte]

If you were to implement x11, consider me on board.


There other hash solutions out there the best known of these being Scrypt-Jane and Adaptive-N which for the most part are the same. They both use a variable N factor which is locked to 2^10 in Scrypt. This is the memory requirement, 2^10 works out to 1024 bytes. Vertcoin a very popular Adaptive-N coin currently uses an N factor of 2^11 which works out to 2048 bytes, every time the N factor goes up the performance of miners drops by half. Vertcoin currently has half the performance of Scrypt and has a maximum N of 2^32 which works out to 4GB, most graphic cards cannot even do work at that level and with the current hash rate the difficulty of Vertcoin could not go low enough to support that level of N. Scrypt-Jane and Adaptive-N may be ASIC hostile but they are also GPU hostile.

 X11 uses 11 well known and high performing hashing solutions chained together to generate the hashes required to generate new blocks. Since it uses 11 different hashes it is complex and unlikely to see a ASIC for it any time soon. The good news for miners is that they can use X11 right now to avoid multipools and start gathering coins that are going to become very important when the Scrypt ASICs hit. Mining X11 gives 3-4 times the hash power of Scrypt, uses less energy and generates even less heat.

This is the solution that people have been looking for.

Thank you for posting this feedback. Which specific coins are currently using X11? I would like to run some of my own hardware tests for comparison to see exactly how it performs.

Right now i relatively positive that only DARKcoin and HIROcoin have implemented the x11 ALGO.

Some quick specifications ..

1 r9 270 can run at about 1.2-1.5 M/Hash .. ( This is more or less irrelevant, as everybody gets an equal increase )

You will experience about 30-40 % less power draw. Measure it. I did.

You will no longer hear your GPU's sound like they are about to take off into the atmosphoere.

My r9 290's used to sound like a blow dryer or vacuum cleaner.. Audible even with the door closed from across the hallway...
Now with x11, I can't hear my r9 290's at all. They aren't silent, but they aren't about to explode.

Expect GPU temperatures to be much lower, and thus, save lots of money on air conditioning in the summer.
  -- I know a few miners who had planned to shut down during the summer, but instead will solely mine x11 during the summer.

Come join hiro.suprnova.cc for a round or two just to see how your GPU's perform... HIRO is pretty unprofitable to mine i think, but just try it.

Use sph SGMiner .. Or the darkcoin miner .. just append -kernel darkcoin to your .bat file to tell it your mining x11

Very informative, thank you for posting.

[cassius69]

Complete shit coin. It has been added to my shitlist. Rated F.

[DigiByte]

Has anyone else tried out the X11 algorithm and has any opinions, comments or insights? The X11 algo looks like it is also more friendly to Nvidia cards. Does anyone have any data to back this up?

If so that opens up a huge untapped market for new miners.

[kaas]

First of all, great effort and i love your dedication. But i don't think this is a "professional" video. I thought digibyte wanted something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo&list=PLOBMT9KFLoap5AHR-wdSM6S7Ub1_lQbTx

It's completely animated and u need somebody that is specialized on that. I've spoken to a couple of animators and they say it's about one week's work to make this. Too bad that those animators i know don't care much for cryptocurrency, so they are not willing to make it cause it's a lot of work ( i begged them . Maybe someone knows an animator who loves cryptocurrency and is willing to help? But in this video there are some parts that can be used for the more professional one, so it's very usefull. And in the video there's no digiman, i think he must be in it too. Also, when u export the movie check your audio settings, cause i heard the original mp3 and it's much clearer then the one in your video.

I'll be made that. but what you said, It's cost a lot of time. I'm now looking for kinemac the things you can do with that is a lot of more and works easier but the video is always worster than from the bitcoin.. and for anybody who will know it. I works 12 hours of this video. I've try to add digiman in version 1.0.2 but the movie don't looks prettier than.

I work in the movie- and tv-industry as an editor/director so i know it's a lot of work. I made some things for digibyte in the past just for fun and to try things out and the hours add up quickly. Too bad my expertise is not in animation and when i saw the example of the bitcoin animation i knew it's over my head to make something like that. I asked some animators i knew if they could help out, but they were only interested when i pay them cash I'm seeing someone next week who might be interested to make something, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for that. Some parts of your video are very usefull so if we can add some cool animation with it, we're on the right track. Do you find it ok if i use some parts of your video if needed?

p.s. I've never used it but someone pointed out http://goanimate.com/ to me. Maybe that could be of great help.

p.s. 2 @digibyte: Can u send me the good quality images also? Would be great.     

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I work in the movie- and tv-industry as an editor/director so i know it's a lot of work. I made some things for digibyte in the past just for fun and to try things out and the hours add up quickly. Too bad my expertise is not in animation and when i saw the example of the bitcoin animation i knew it's over my head to make something like that. I asked some animators i knew if they could help out, but they were only interested when i pay them cash I'm seeing someone next week who might be interested to make something, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for that. Some parts of your video are very usefull so if we can add some cool animation with it, we're on the right track. Do you find it ok if i use some parts of your video if needed?

p.s. I've never used it but someone pointed out http://goanimate.com/ to me. Maybe that could be of great help.

p.s. 2 @digibyte: Can u send me the good quality images also? Would be great.    

I don't say yes at this moment It cost for me a lot time to made this. and you chance something and get some parts of my video and you can say It's my video.... I don't like that idea.

how much will you copy?
10 S
30 S
60 S
120 S

how more you used, how more you use my video....

if you some parts added sent me a pm, and I think about it. say about what you will added time to time from the video

[litecoingva]

If you are going to change algo, you can also add PoS... Energy efficient X11 + energy efficient PoS.

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To some up our current position on POS we would like to use a tweet from Wonderloops on Twitter:

POS as a distribution-method makes "The rich richer, the poor poorer".

change the algorithm will not save to pump interess in digibyte. if you can see the networkhash rate dont grow. the coin is going to dead. other coins like black coin found a good way to propote the coin. super miner is like The rich richer, the poor poorer like you told. mining digibyte will not help to be the 1st coin. the way to grow is to eat other coin like blackcoin is doing... if you can mining other coin and instantly exchange with digibyte, this will help to be a real good coin. the community is not growin but fallind down every days... i thinh that the person who purpose also add PoS... Energy efficient X11 + energy efficient PoS, is totally right. sorry for my english, but i dont think that changing algorythm will increase the networkhashrate and the community of digibyte and the value. it was nice, but digiwoman, and the free shop who sell digibyte, is turning the coin in a jokecoin... you have to change your strategy... at the moment only super miner are doing money with digibyte and they sell all... and the value of digibyte is going to crash... only 5btc exchange in the good days.,... that mean that people dont like

[kaas]

I work in the movie- and tv-industry as an editor/director so i know it's a lot of work. I made some things for digibyte in the past just for fun and to try things out and the hours add up quickly. Too bad my expertise is not in animation and when i saw the example of the bitcoin animation i knew it's over my head to make something like that. I asked some animators i knew if they could help out, but they were only interested when i pay them cash I'm seeing someone next week who might be interested to make something, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for that. Some parts of your video are very usefull so if we can add some cool animation with it, we're on the right track. Do you find it ok if i use some parts of your video if needed?

p.s. I've never used it but someone pointed out http://goanimate.com/ to me. Maybe that could be of great help.

p.s. 2 @digibyte: Can u send me the good quality images also? Would be great.    

I don't say yes at this moment It cost for me a lot time to made this. and you chance something and get some parts of my video and you can say It's my video.... I don't like that idea.

how much will you copy?
10 S
30 S
60 S
120 S

how more you used, how more you use my video....

if you some parts added sent me a pm, and I think about it. say about what you will added time to time from the video

Hahaha, No worries. I'm in here to help digibyte and no further reasons. I was talking about maybe a few seconds just to make u a compliment, but i don't think i will use anything of your video.

[EFFV]

If you were to implement x11, consider me on board.


There other hash solutions out there the best known of these being Scrypt-Jane and Adaptive-N which for the most part are the same. They both use a variable N factor which is locked to 2^10 in Scrypt. This is the memory requirement, 2^10 works out to 1024 bytes. Vertcoin a very popular Adaptive-N coin currently uses an N factor of 2^11 which works out to 2048 bytes, every time the N factor goes up the performance of miners drops by half. Vertcoin currently has half the performance of Scrypt and has a maximum N of 2^32 which works out to 4GB, most graphic cards cannot even do work at that level and with the current hash rate the difficulty of Vertcoin could not go low enough to support that level of N. Scrypt-Jane and Adaptive-N may be ASIC hostile but they are also GPU hostile.

 X11 uses 11 well known and high performing hashing solutions chained together to generate the hashes required to generate new blocks. Since it uses 11 different hashes it is complex and unlikely to see a ASIC for it any time soon. The good news for miners is that they can use X11 right now to avoid multipools and start gathering coins that are going to become very important when the Scrypt ASICs hit. Mining X11 gives 3-4 times the hash power of Scrypt, uses less energy and generates even less heat.

This is the solution that people have been looking for.

I really like this idea DGB Please change the algo before asics hit full force!

[bigc1984]

Has anyone else tried out the X11 algorithm and has any opinions, comments or insights? The X11 algo looks like it is also more friendly to Nvidia cards. Does anyone have any data to back this up?

If so that opens up a huge untapped market for new miners.

I saw in the darkcoin forums people reporting huge hash rate increases with nvidia cards. I'm glad you are considering X11... it's a VERY wise choice and the fact you are even debating it just made me spend another btc today on more digibytes.

[DigiByte]

Has anyone else tried out the X11 algorithm and has any opinions, comments or insights? The X11 algo looks like it is also more friendly to Nvidia cards. Does anyone have any data to back this up?

If so that opens up a huge untapped market for new miners.

I saw in the darkcoin forums people reporting huge hash rate increases with nvidia cards. I'm glad you are considering X11... it's a VERY wise choice and the fact you are even debating it just made me spend another btc today on more digibytes.

It does look promising. We have also read that FGPA's can mine X11 easily as well. Can anyone confirm this?

[DigiByte]

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[zrunfeng]

no bad it seems good

[BlazingHashes]

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[Gazza1]

I think I've made up my mind.  I would vote to change to algo and use X11.  I've recently been fooling around with it and it is amazing.   The speeds are significantly faster than scrypt and the cards run much cooler and use less power and lower fan speed.  It's actually incredible.  That's my personal vote, X11 all the way.

Check it out guys
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0;all

different kernals have different speeds.

    DRK ~2.5 MH/s on R9 290
    Q2C ~5 MH/s on R9 290
    QRK ~2.1 MH/s on R9 290
    MYR ~10 MH/s on R9 290
    FC ~145 MH/s on R9 290
    INK ~45 MH/s on R9 290
    ANI ~1.8 MH/s on R9 290
    GRS ~5.5 MH/s on R9 290

[Unpropitious]

I think I've made up my mind.  I would vote to change to algo and use X11.  I've recently been fooling around with it and it is amazing.   The speeds are significantly faster than scrypt and the cards run much cooler and use less power and lower fan speed.  It's actually incredible.  That's my personal vote, X11 all the way.

Check it out guys
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0;all

different kernals have different speeds.

    DRK ~2.5 MH/s on R9 290
    Q2C ~5 MH/s on R9 290
    QRK ~2.1 MH/s on R9 290
    MYR ~10 MH/s on R9 290
    FC ~145 MH/s on R9 290
    INK ~45 MH/s on R9 290
    ANI ~1.8 MH/s on R9 290
    GRS ~5.5 MH/s on R9 290

Does that actually increase the speed of mining?

EDIT: For everything, I mean.

[mingooski]

Excuse me for my noob question,

But if Digibyte uses things like ASIC Resistant, X11 and stuff isnt that gonna affect transaction speed?
And isnt it more insteresting for merchants to say Digibyte has the fastest transaction speed and is the most secure?

I mean if you can only choose one direction (i dont know if u can combine all), then i would choose improving on speed and security.
For a coin to be accepted as new currency to pay for stuff, isnt speed and security the way to go?
because i dont really see merchants gonna say "YES! this coin uses x11 and/or is ASIC Resistant that is so important for our shop and customers"

Just thinking out loud and hoping someone could inform this noob 

PS i know its good for miners, but i dont see why that would make make the world gonna accept cryptocurrency as new payment.

[bigc1984]

Excuse me for my noob question,

But if Digibyte uses things like ASIC Resistant, X11 and stuff isnt that gonna affect transaction speed?
And isnt it more insteresting for merchants to say Digibyte has the fastest transaction speed and is the most secure?

I mean if you can only choose one direction (i dont know if u can combine all), then i would choose improving on speed and security.
For a coin to be accepted as new currency to pay for stuff, isnt speed and security the way to go?
because i dont really see merchants gonna say "YES! this coin uses x11 and/or is ASIC Resistant that is so important for our shop and customers"

Just thinking out loud and hoping someone could inform this noob 

PS i know its good for miners, but i dont see why that would make make the world gonna accept cryptocurrency as new payment.

X11 is a more secure hashing algo than scrypt because it chains 11 hashing algos and X11 is pretty much instant

[iikun]

Does X11 allow cpu mining as well as gpu?  I just saw that Darkcoin has both. I'm personally a bit against cpu mining as that would allow room for botnet attacks.

[DigiByte]

I think I've made up my mind.  I would vote to change to algo and use X11.  I've recently been fooling around with it and it is amazing.   The speeds are significantly faster than scrypt and the cards run much cooler and use less power and lower fan speed.  It's actually incredible.  That's my personal vote, X11 all the way.

Check it out guys
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0;all

different kernals have different speeds.

    DRK ~2.5 MH/s on R9 290
    Q2C ~5 MH/s on R9 290
    QRK ~2.1 MH/s on R9 290
    MYR ~10 MH/s on R9 290
    FC ~145 MH/s on R9 290
    INK ~45 MH/s on R9 290
    ANI ~1.8 MH/s on R9 290
    GRS ~5.5 MH/s on R9 290

The X11 algo does look promising, but we need to find the answer to the FGPA question. If FGPA's are able to mine X11 we are going to end up with a whole new problem on our hands. As far as we know no one is selling FGPA's anymore. So those people or groups that have them could gain a significant advantage.

[EFFV]

I am wholly in support of x11, I have held digibyte since day one, digibyte has the chance to be ahead of the curve.
We should implement it asap, before we are lopped in the pile of scrypt junkyard coins.