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February 04, 2014, 11:35:27 PM
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Great, thanks! I can't wait to try it out. Please, please with sugar on top, run far away from those casino vendors who are knowingly selling junk Smiley


We are! You'd be amazed if you knew how many crappy providers and systems we've reviewed in the last two weeks trying to find a better solution. It's coming, I promise Smiley


Coinbet, instant withdrawal?
please review your or yours definition of instant.
.  YNWIM

All withdrawal methods, as of now, are instant except BTC. Those are automatically flagged for a manual review and processing. However, in the next 24-48hrs those will too be instantly processed. We are installing the solution as we speak.

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February 04, 2014, 11:38:13 PM
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So YDKWIM
So you don't know what I mean. no problem.
I won't tell you.

and oh : hope your live dealer games won't be bugged like the non live dealer games were.

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February 05, 2014, 12:53:45 AM
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Did the owner abandon ship? I e-mailed him a couple days ago  about something totally unrelated to what went down and he hasn't answered back.

Also, did CNBC look into the credibility of coinbet before they wrote this? (tried to link, wouldn't work, just google cnbc coinbet)

Interesting. I really had high hopes this casino to pan out. Also, it's only a press release... so CNBC don't have to verify what's in the advertisement.

Total non-reply by coinbet about the cnbc story. Wtf is that?  Making up a fake contest to get hype?



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February 05, 2014, 01:12:05 AM
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Total non-reply by coinbet about the cnbc story. Wtf is that?  Making up a fake contest to get hype?

Are you kidding me? No one asked me anything about the CNBC story.

For the record, we did indeed have a winner in the Superbowl contest. The winner agreed to do 3 press appearances (it was part of the requirements of participating in the contest) and we will make the official announcement via these press appearances. It will be up to the winner how much he (or she?) wants to reveal about themselves, but if they take their winnings in BTC (which they have not decided yet), it will be quite easy to at least see the transaction Smiley


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February 05, 2014, 05:06:19 AM
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Okay - I'm getting a bit tired of you two!  Smiley 

coinboss - leave it alone. You won't get your 21k. But do continue to post the informative links... actually, coinbet brought it up this time, never mind.

Coinbet - Let me make this point. You have not provided any concrete evidence that coinboss intentionally tried to scam your casino. And you say that coinboss is digging his grave.... actually, you're far deeper in the hole than he is.

The only thing that we (not that I speak for the rest of the people here on the thread) are certain of in this case is that coinboss violated T&Cs (BTW, there's a post here that still needs addressing about your T&Cs), which isn't difficult to do. Unfortunately, I violated them by mistake... but mistake or not, according to your T&Cs, only one account is allowed per environment. Shared public wi-fi still boggles me... but at any rate, that stipulation can be used against me in the event you decided to refuse to pay me a large payout. Not saying that you operate in this manner - but these are your rules.

And did we forget that you provided provided another reason he didn't receive his winnings... because the slots were not working properly and were paying out too high? You said that (not in those words, but I can snag the reference).  But it's okay when it works the other way around... when they don't pay out at all? <rhetorical>

Also, the screenshot(s) you posted means nothing without the company data attached to it. Sorry... just letting you know (for future reference; a lot of members will beat you down for doing this). The type of info coinboss provided is what we call verifiable. And are those the red flags that raised alarm for his scam activities? Possible duplicate accounts? Sharing a wi-fi connection will flag an account - of course because it's the same environment, doesn't have to be the same user. These are generic flags probably attached to the majority of accounts, to include mine.

But since you bought this subject up again, many of us would like to know why coinboss had to deposit 6k to withdraw his winnings of 21k? According to the audio/posts, the free voucher credits were already exhausted, and he won the 21k from his own btc he deposited. How does this make sense?

Like I said Coinbet, you're hole is much deeper. There are dozens of additional questions your customer base want answers to but yet you choose to entertain this.

blah blah blah blah blah....
You can go ahead and keep digging yourself deeper into your hole, buddy. With all the time you spend trying to slander us since you got busted, perhaps we should hire you to promote our site! What's your going rate?

Here's our analytics stats for Superbowl weekend, just FYI. It certainly doesn't compare to larger sites, but it works fine for us:



Oh and while I'm at it, now that the investigation has concluded, here are the flags thrown up by our automatic fraud prevention system for your account, just so you know why you got banned from our site and you can stop accusing me of making it up. Please go ahead and try to deny that this is you, and that you weren't playing on the same IP address as several other players with the same EXACT flags.



Hope that puts an end to your ridiculous claims that you were banned unfairly. Next time you play at an online casino, follow the damn T&C.

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February 05, 2014, 06:22:35 AM
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Coinbet - Let me make this point. You have not provided any concrete evidence that coinboss intentionally tried to scam your casino. And you say that coinboss is digging his grave.... actually, you're far deeper in the hole than he is.
It's not up to me who is banned or who isn't, but the thing is, multiple people from the same IP address took advantage of the same vulnerability within the same game immediately after one another. In other words, it's just like if you discovered a flaw in a specific game then told your friends, all while you each sat around watching each other do it. Ironically enough, we would have probably given him a nice bounty payout if he has told us about the vulnerability but he went the wrong route with it, i.e. tellling his "buddies" and/or creating multiple accounts to maximize his illegitimate winnings from it.
telling people and/or creating multiple accounts? I though you knew the issue was multiple accounts? That aside I understand what you're saying. But let me ask you... whilst playing the slots, and losing 1.5k times in a row - this is no secret the slots were broke - I only found two slots that actually paid out - out of dozens I tested. Now, if I were to have won 'big' on one of those slots, would that be considered illegitimate? And what if other people also realized that only those two slots were playing... see where I'm going? You don't have to answer this, but at what point is it a vulnerability versus real game play?

The only thing that we (not that I speak for the rest of the people here on the thread) are certain of in this case is that coinboss violated T&Cs (BTW, there's a post here that still needs addressing about your T&Cs), which isn't difficult to do. Unfortunately, I violated them by mistake... but mistake or not, according to your T&Cs, only one account is allowed per environment. Shared public wi-fi still boggles me... but at any rate, that stipulation can be used against me in the event you decided to refuse to pay me a large payout. Not saying that you operate in this manner - but these are your rules.
We have a policy of giving warnings prior to banning in most cases. In the event of a shared IP, we're not going to push it unless we see IDENTICAL activity amongst the multiple accounts. In every case of banning, even in the event of fraud, we are willing to refund initial deposits and just call it a day. We have no interest in stealing anyone's money, even if we cut off their action.
Understood, but again, who defines IDENTICAL? And how would/could a person prove his/her case? I suppose it really doesn't matter according to your T&Cs anyways, just curious.

And did we forget that you provided provided another reason he didn't receive his winnings... because the slots were not working properly and were paying out too high? You said that (not in those words, but I can snag the reference).  But it's okay when it works the other way around... when they don't pay out at all? <rhetorical>
He was not playing slots. I won't reveal what he was playing, for obvious reasons, but it was NOT slots.
Fair enough Smiley I only play slots so I can't speak on the other games... but I thought you removed all the games that had exploits? But even so, I still don't blame you for not mentioning the game, I know where that could go.

Also, the screenshot(s) you posted means nothing without the company data attached to it.

If you don't see the problem with providing additional data, I don't know what to tell you, but I certainly don't have the time, or the willingness, to photoshop some bullshit.
I didn't say anything about photoshop. That could be just a straight copy/paste from google. You post what you want - you have first hand experience of how critical we are with proof. Just figured I'd let you know.

But since you bought this subject up again, many of us would like to know why coinboss had to deposit 6k to withdraw his winnings of 21k? According to the audio/posts, the free voucher credits were already exhausted, and he won the 21k from his own btc he deposited. How does this make sense?
I'm not even convinced he was actually told that. I don't know anyone here who sounds like the audio file he posted. Regardless, even if he was, it's most likely that he was told that due to a clueless customer service rep who was reading from a script assuming his complaint was voucher related due to the high number of voucher questions at the time. In my opinion, it's more likely that he faked the damn thing, but that's just me. I personally know 99% of the people here, and I just don't agree that it's the voice of anyone on our team.. but again, that's my personal opinion.

Regardless, we have since overhauled our entire customer service experience, as well as the training our reps receive before being set loose on the phone, so that too is a moot point.
I don't even know how to respond to this... time for bed, I suppose.

All things considered, even you yourself experienced our extremely quick willingness to compensate and/or refund for any problems experienced. Aside from people complaining about minor delays in BTC withdrawals (even though they still process seamlessly!), you won't find a single player with any problems with our customer service, our ability to payout, or anything remotely similar. Keep that in mind.

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No doubt! Aside from parenting the two of you Wink I've posted my review on your services in this thread... somewhere. I gave my honest opinion, I told everyone how helpful you were, giving me additional vouchers, how I communicated with support via email, and even commented that my withdrawal request didn't take long - And more!  It's no secret your slots were broke - I'm just glad you realize that and are working to correct the issue. That's what counts. That - and answering some of our lingering questions. What you don't want to do is get a rep for avoiding.

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February 05, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
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Lucky Cris- If you want answers it may be better to just ask in a concise form. 1. 2. 3. etc. short questions. I have a hard time reading through novels and assume many bypass your posts, even if informative, because of the length. My view point is that coinboss got caught breaking the rules and now has to pay the price.
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February 05, 2014, 08:42:45 AM
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You guys are putting way too much emphasis on one phone call. Coinboss may have taped 10 phone calls and produced the one where a customer service rep made a mistake.
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February 05, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
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For the record, they paid me the equiv of 22 btc right now within the promised 2 day time frame of my request.

The customer service there has been stellar and my account manager is always at the ready.

Very positive experience thus far.


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February 05, 2014, 05:24:34 PM
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For the record, they paid me the equiv of 22 btc right now within the promised 2 day time frame of my request.

The customer service there has been stellar and my account manager is always at the ready.

Very positive experience thus far.

Glad you enjoyed your experience. Good job on the action, enjoy your winnings!

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For the record, they paid me the equiv of 22 btc right now within the promised 2 day time frame of my request.

The customer service there has been stellar and my account manager is always at the ready.

Very positive experience thus far.


Hope you don't mind, but I'll only take the word of a member with an established presence. Newbie account created back in 2012 who's first post (month and half ago) was that he scammed by a competitor casino... don't think so. These account types are being sold on this forum for pennies.

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February 06, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
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Lucky Cris- If you want answers it may be better to just ask in a concise form. 1. 2. 3. etc. short questions. I have a hard time reading through novels and assume many bypass your posts, even if informative, because of the length. My view point is that coinboss got caught breaking the rules and now has to pay the price.

Yeah, they're long... for those who care to read, the info is there. But even those concise posts aren't answered. Not just mine, but others as well.

I understand your point about coinboss and I would totally agree with you had Coinbet not admit the fact that they didn't know whether coinboss created multiple accounts, or just told/referred his friends to play. "tellling his "buddies" and/or creating multiple accounts" this implies exactly what you're thinking right now. If you take an opportunity to review my excessively long posts (I can't even stand reading them), you'd understand my point.

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Yeah, they're long... for those who care to read, the info is there. But even those concise posts aren't answered. Not just mine, but others as well.

I understand your point about coinboss and I would totally agree with you had Coinbet not admit the fact that they didn't know whether coinboss created multiple accounts, or just told/referred his friends to play. "tellling his "buddies" and/or creating multiple accounts" this implies exactly what you're thinking right now. If you take an opportunity to review my excessively long posts (I can't even stand reading them), you'd understand my point.

For the final time, USING THE SAME IP AS SOMEONE ELSE IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN BY OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS!!!!! It does not matter if he created multiple accounts or just told his friends and they all used the same computer. He broke the rules. Bottom line, the accounts (not just one, not just two, not just three...etc) were using the same IP *AND* they had identical activity. CASE CLOSED!


Hope you don't mind, but I'll only take the word of a member with an established presence. Newbie account created back in 2012 who's first post (month and half ago) was that he scammed by a competitor casino... don't think so. These account types are being sold on this forum for pennies.

I hope you don't mind, but your posts are getting a bit pointless.

You just called out a valued member of ours who has been a loyal sportsbook player and did, indeed, cash out $20k from our casino (he's not the first, nor will he be the last). He's sharp action, he bets large wagers, and is not a penny slot player.

I'm not sure if you're asking for proof (which he has no obligation to provide to you, you're not the internet police), or if you're just trying to cause problems, but it's really unnecessary either way. If you have some problem with our casino, don't play there, go somewhere else and avoid dealing with us...  but please don't question people who post positive experiences just because you think you can. If you have something specific you are questioning, make it clear.

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February 06, 2014, 03:16:46 AM
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For the record, they paid me the equiv of 22 btc right now within the promised 2 day time frame of my request.

The customer service there has been stellar and my account manager is always at the ready.

Very positive experience thus far.


Hope you don't mind, but I'll only take the word of a member with an established presence. Newbie account created back in 2012 who's first post (month and half ago) was that he scammed by a competitor casino... don't think so. These account types are being sold on this forum for pennies.

Believe what you will, but that in fact happened.  Go read the SBR reports.  Do you think the largest sportsbetting portal and most respected watchdog on the net fabricated the entire thing?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-clock-still-running-sbr-sportsbook-igaming-news-6090/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-bitcoin-sportsbook-yet-comment-stealing-6-700-6087/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-bitcoin-sportsbook-steals-6-700-winnings-6082/


I have played at almost every bitcoin book and have relationships with some of the principles, including casinobitco.in, who have also paid large figures promptly as well.  Nitrogen and bitbook have also paid me without any problems whatsoever as well.  I havent had an issue with any btc book except the one in question.  Its also not much of an issue as much as it is an outright theft.  Maybe you can try contacting them on behalf since they wont communicate with anyone else.

I had a positive experience with coinbet and thought i should post about it.  I want to see ALL of these books succeed since any theft leaves a black eye on an growing industry in its infancy. 

Competition and accountability are good in my eyes.

Simple as that. 
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I had a positive experience with coinbet and thought i should post about it. 

Thanks again for posting your experience. Glad you enjoyed it, and like I said, enjoy your winnings Smiley

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For the record, they paid me the equiv of 22 btc right now within the promised 2 day time frame of my request.

The customer service there has been stellar and my account manager is always at the ready.

Very positive experience thus far.


Hope you don't mind, but I'll only take the word of a member with an established presence. Newbie account created back in 2012 who's first post (month and half ago) was that he scammed by a competitor casino... don't think so. These account types are being sold on this forum for pennies.

Believe what you will, but that in fact happened.  Go read the SBR reports.  Do you think the largest sportsbetting portal and most respected watchdog on the net fabricated the entire thing?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-clock-still-running-sbr-sportsbook-igaming-news-6090/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-bitcoin-sportsbook-yet-comment-stealing-6-700-6087/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-bitcoin-sportsbook-steals-6-700-winnings-6082/


I have played at almost every bitcoin book and have relationships with some of the principles, including casinobitco.in, who have also paid large figures promptly as well.  Nitrogen and bitbook have also paid me without any problems whatsoever as well.  I havent had an issue with any btc book except the one in question.  Its also not much of an issue as much as it is an outright theft.  Maybe you can try contacting them on behalf since they wont communicate with anyone else.

I had a positive experience with coinbet and thought i should post about it.  I want to see ALL of these books succeed since any theft leaves a black eye on an growing industry in its infancy. 

Competition and accountability are good in my eyes.

Simple as that. 
SBR is not even close to the most respected watchdog site. BoDog an "A" ?
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BTCSportsbook refused to pay SBR advertising fees although I do believe that the player is getting stiffed in the case that was quoted above.
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Thank you for this - let me remind you again: you're digging your own hole.

For the final time, USING THE SAME IP AS SOMEONE ELSE IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN BY OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS!!!!! It does not matter if he created multiple accounts or just told his friends. He broke the rules. Bottom line, the accounts (not just one, not just two, not just three...etc) were using the same IP *AND* they had identical activity. CASE CLOSED!

* Only one (1) Real Account per player, per household, address, e-mail address, credit card number, bank account, and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc).

I guess I'd just be shit out of luck if I used a hotel's wi-fi (or any public one for that matter) after someone else visited your casino <even months> before I did. Possibility? Small - it's the POINT. But since I actually need to break this down for you: You don't have to share computers to have the same external IP address. Your T&Cs actually DON'T specify IP at all - it says places 'where computers are shared'. And technically, if you want to break that statement down even further... a person would have to meet all of the requirements in that line to violate it. Hint: there's a difference between the words AND and OR. Point being - Enforcing T&Cs (misinterpreted by even you) when it benefits you.

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I hope you don't mind, but your posts are getting a bit pointless.
I'm not sure if you're asking for proof (which he has no obligation to provide to you, you're not the internet police), or if you're just trying to cause problems, but it's really unnecessary either way.

Actually I don't mind your opinion. If I did, I wouldn't post it in a place so people can see respond. And the reason you're see the same thing over and over again is because you ignore inquires; no secret.  And I'm not just referring to mine. Hell, you might've just motivated me to go through this thread and call out the many times you've contradicted yourself. But please don't temp me. If the case is closed, don't just bash people who challenge it, tell other people who bring it up too. Still being selective, I see.

And Seriously? You really didn't post that, lol. You should know by now if I wanted proof I'd ask. While I don't appreciate the name calling I'm glad you did; speaks volumes of your character and lack of understanding of the point of a forum. If you don't want anyone to comment, why are you putting it out here? Of course, Marketing. You think this is the first time a newbie's post was questioned? This happens everyday. Perhaps you should consider having someone else manage your public posts; someone who understands the concept of a forum.

Here's what you failed to realize about everything I've said on this thread, john: I know how to communicate a point neutrally. These points aren't taking sides, they're to create awareness (this is a forum, you know). Does that make sense? But moving along... you don't deserve my business.

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I guess I'd just be shit out of luck if I used a hotel's wi-fi (or any public one for that matter) after someone else visited your casino <even months> before I did. Possibility? Small - it's the POINT. But since I actually need to break this down for you: You don't have to share computers to have the same external IP address. Your T&Cs actually DON'T specify IP at all - it says places 'where computers are shared'. And technically, if you want to break that statement down even further... a person would have to meet all of the requirements in that line to violate it. Hint: there's a difference between the words AND and OR. Point being - Enforcing T&Cs (misinterpreted by even you) when it benefits you.

You'd be free to let us know why the IP's match when asked. Then we'd probably look the other way, but yes, that IS, in fact, a violation of our terms and conditions. If you lied about the reason for the match, or tried to avoid responding, then yea, we'd probably ban the account. This isn't for OUR benefit, just FYI, it's for the security of our players' accounts. Using public wifi for anything related to financial transactions is just plain stupid. Everyone knows that. The fact that you're trying to criticize us for that just shows you have some axe to grind here and are looking for reasons to call us out.

You refuse to acknowledge that anyone with any legitimate action loves our site, loves our support, and has had great experiences here. I'm sorry you had issues with playing penny slots with free voucher money. We removed the problematic slots you pointed out, which, to be fair, were not managed or supplied by us. Like every other casino site in the world, those slots are provided by third party vendors.

Here's what you failed to realize about everything I've said on this thread, john: I know how to communicate a point neutrally. These points aren't taking sides, they're to create awareness (this is a forum, you know). Does that make sense? But moving along... you don't deserve my business.

My name isn't John, sorry. Best of luck to you in the future.

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Last edit: February 06, 2014, 06:46:13 AM by Lucky Cris
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You'd be free to let us know why the IP's match when asked. Then we'd probably look the other way, but yes, that IS, in fact, a violation of our terms and conditions. If you lied about the reason for the match, or tried to avoid responding, then yea, we'd probably ban the account. This isn't for OUR benefit, just FYI, it's for the security of our players' accounts. Using public wifi for anything related to financial transactions is just plain stupid. Everyone knows that. The fact that you're trying to criticize us for that just shows you have some axe to grind here and are looking for reasons to call us out.

Okay... let's try this again:
Your T&Cs do not say IP address. There's NO mention of IPs at all - it says 'environments where computers are shared.' Everybody using the same IP don't have to be using the same computer. Does it make sense now? And I'm not looking for reasons to call you out, you're giving them to me! Seriously, you are! Here - let me show you:

"...let us know why the IP's match when asked. Then we'd probably look the other way..." Probably??? Now come on, would you take your word over your T&Cs that you've felt the need to remind us that "For the last time: IF YOU VIOLATE OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE TERMINATED." <-- that came from you, in this thread.

"We have a policy of giving warnings prior to banning in most cases." <--- you again. You're not obligated to, and why would I take your word when you have "the right to cancel any Player's account for any reason whatsoever at any time without notice to the Player" according to your T&Cs!? As a Player, I'm not bound by your internal policies, but I am to your T&Cs. And besides, you've even admitted you can't control what your reps say, even if it's in error, what we need to know is in the T&Cs. So this doesn't apply to you, huh? SMH. Yes, I know.

Like I said, you contradict yourself over and over again, digging your own damn hole (your choice to continue, ok). But I'll give you one thing... you actually choose your words carefully/deliberately and well to the common. But give me some credit here, lol! Dig this: Consider my previous suggestion to revisit your T&Cs. My initial review of them was just the obvious.

You refuse to acknowledge that anyone with any legitimate action loves our site, loves our support, and has had great experiences here. I'm sorry you had issues with playing penny slots with free voucher money. We removed the problematic slots you pointed out, which, to be fair, were not managed or supplied by us. Like every other casino site in the world, those slots are provided by third party vendors.
This is a lie... like so many of the other lies you've just officially motivated me to pluck out of this thread to remind everyone of. I have defended you in this thread, complimented you, even continued to wish you well through all the accusations others - AND btw I still had the same problems with the slots when I made a real deposit. So you see, just another lie you passed. The excessively high difficulty level being only related to the free vouchers simply isn't true. I proved that, even sent a screenshot to tech support. And mention penny slots one more time... what's the max bet on these penny slots? Here's one better - Ask around; penny is not how you want to define my wallet.

Here's what you failed to realize about everything I've said on this thread, john: I know how to communicate a point neutrally. These points aren't taking sides, they're to create awareness (this is a forum, you know). Does that make sense? But moving along... you don't deserve my business.
My name isn't John, sorry. Best of luck to you in the future.
john (lower case j) was actually on purpose. It wasn't an attempt to call out your name; I have no clue what your name is... but since explaining why I called you john is something I sense you wouldn't understand, there's really no need to go there; you didn't get it. But this reminds me... now that I've apparently made an enemy, I best change my IP... don't want you passing it on to other casinos, you know. Hey, you did it before, how would I know you wouldn't do it again? My luck might actually turn around, shit.

--- Oh, I'll be sure to let people know how stupid they are for using public wi-fi in an attempt to maintain their anonymity with btc transactions. Who cares if the connection claims to be secure, right.

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