mpdas108
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February 17, 2014, 06:58:28 PM |
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I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe this has been covered, but I figured I'd mention it as another data point.
This service is simple in that it doesn't require a proxy pool between the rigs and the renters' pools, which is good, but it's apparently not suited to offering one big 10+ megahash farm because you'd need network access to every individual instance of cgminer.
If this problem were to be solved, I'd give it a go, but managing 10 individual rentals is a much bigger pain than one large one.
I know Djezo was contemplating an implementation of a specialized software that would sit on one of the machines or all of them and allow you to control them together as a farm on LeaseRig.
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tw0r
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February 17, 2014, 07:15:56 PM |
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I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe this has been covered, but I figured I'd mention it as another data point.
This service is simple in that it doesn't require a proxy pool between the rigs and the renters' pools, which is good, but it's apparently not suited to offering one big 10+ megahash farm because you'd need network access to every individual instance of cgminer.
If this problem were to be solved, I'd give it a go, but managing 10 individual rentals is a much bigger pain than one large one.
Im going to answer you here - https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F28mo8ll.png&t=536&c=3vpyw2-8UdAfDgYou can hire whatever rigs you like and then manage them all together.
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djeZo (OP)
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February 17, 2014, 07:17:44 PM |
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I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe this has been covered, but I figured I'd mention it as another data point.
This service is simple in that it doesn't require a proxy pool between the rigs and the renters' pools, which is good, but it's apparently not suited to offering one big 10+ megahash farm because you'd need network access to every individual instance of cgminer.
If this problem were to be solved, I'd give it a go, but managing 10 individual rentals is a much bigger pain than one large one.
I was going to develop software, a middleman, but I simply couldn't go past an issue of rig failures. Statistically, rigs are very unreliable. When you offer 10 rigs under 1 instance, there is very high chance that one rig inside of this group will fail and the end speed will not be eg. 20 M anymore but 18 M. With having single instance of every rig, statistic are way better and you exactly what are you getting. Now, from the point of customer, there is not really big difference; BULK rig management support is present in LeaseRig for long time now. And this is even better, because customers group together rigs from various providers and are not limited to one provider with big rig. And like mentioned before, due to great statistics, this bulk management can still be broken down into single rigs and manage them / view stats separately. Customers have much better view of "what is going under the hood". From the view of provider; I have plans to offer bulk rig management soon too. The biggest issue for big providers is management, when swapping from one algo type to another, changing description text on multiple rigs, and changing prices. This is manageable if having <5 rigs, but painful when having more. But even in this direction, we are already working on a solution and will soon be published.
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djeZo (OP)
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February 17, 2014, 07:28:12 PM |
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One great feature; when you are about to hire a rig, you can view speed stats for past 24h in graph mode!
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mpdas108
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February 17, 2014, 07:46:17 PM |
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Woohoo somebody already rented my DRK coin rig
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groovy9
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February 17, 2014, 08:56:10 PM |
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From the view of provider; I have plans to offer bulk rig management soon too. The biggest issue for big providers is management, when swapping from one algo type to another, changing description text on multiple rigs, and changing prices. This is manageable if having <5 rigs, but painful when having more. But even in this direction, we are already working on a solution and will soon be published.
Thanks for the quick answer. One thing to consider about the folks who operate big farms... I have no idea how professional (in terms of IT skill) they are in general, but I have a bunch of monitoring set up, keep a couple rigs out of my rental farm (and on one of the profit switching pools) as backup capacity, and my advertised hash rate is a little below actual anyway. So although I get your concerns about reliability on a larger scale, it's actually the large scale that allows me to offer reliability because someone could steal two rigs from my house and I'd still meet my rental obligation. Just food for thought. :-)
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tw0r
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February 17, 2014, 09:01:45 PM |
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Woohoo somebody already rented my DRK coin rig This DarkCoin looks very good imo. But I cant figure out, why does my GPUs have much lower temperature with this coin - around 20 degrees lower. I am missing something? Could I set something better? I have there a few coins in an hour - but could I have more? Are these cards working 100 percently?
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gsupp
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February 17, 2014, 09:09:44 PM |
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My fee as a provider went from 2% to 3% even though I joined on February 05, 2014
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djeZo (OP)
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February 17, 2014, 10:12:47 PM |
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My fee as a provider went from 2% to 3% even though I joined on February 05, 2014 Have you considered 0.0001 TX fee?
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gsupp
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February 17, 2014, 10:26:42 PM |
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My fee as a provider went from 2% to 3% even though I joined on February 05, 2014 Have you considered 0.0001 TX fee? Sorry, that was the difference.
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djeZo (OP)
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February 17, 2014, 10:31:06 PM |
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Since we are @ fees again. Let me know what do you think about having alt payment method - I was thinking about DOGE. How it would work; each provider could decide to accept DOGE by entering DOGE account. The prices would still be managed in BTC, but if you as a provider accepts DOGE, customer can pay in DOGE. Price would be calculated according to current market price of DOGE, refreshed every 5 minutes. Customers would have 2 wallets online - one for BTC and one for DOGE.
It is not of a big hassle to do this dual payment method, just let me know if there is any interest for it so I do not loose time doing it.
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tw0r
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February 17, 2014, 10:50:55 PM |
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Since we are @ fees again. Let me know what do you think about having alt payment method - I was thinking about DOGE. How it would work; each provider could decide to accept DOGE by entering DOGE account. The prices would still be managed in BTC, but if you as a provider accepts DOGE, customer can pay in DOGE. Price would be calculated according to current market price of DOGE, refreshed every 5 minutes. Customers would have 2 wallets online - one for BTC and one for DOGE.
It is not of a big hassle to do this dual payment method, just let me know if there is any interest for it so I do not loose time doing it.
Im in
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kenshirothefist
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February 18, 2014, 12:42:30 AM |
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The biggest issue for big providers is management, when swapping from one algo type to another, changing description text on multiple rigs, and changing prices. This is manageable if having <5 rigs, but painful when having more. But even in this direction, we are already working on a solution and will soon be published.
OK, here is a solution for all of you who have Linux rigs: So, basically I made a simple web page, actually a web wrapper to control my Linux based multi-mode rigs. This solution is only for Linux rigs (I guess the majority of serious rig providers are running some sort of Linux on the rigs anyway) and requires some Linux knowledge to properly set-up the environment. With this solution rig provider can control his rig's "mode" remotely solely with web browser. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=471867.new#new (see the video demos)
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February 18, 2014, 01:03:11 AM |
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QUZINOS rig hashing at 1MH/s now from .65 MH/s, enjoy. Vertcoin & Pandacoin ONLY http://leaserig.net/index.jsp?t=4
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pryzh
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February 18, 2014, 07:26:59 PM |
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Whoever has hired my rig Minion1 on Nfactor please check your pool. The vardiff is adjusting difficulty every 5-10 secs which is causing high rejects and low shares. I have already sent you a number of emails on this, but please change your pool
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djeZo (OP)
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February 18, 2014, 09:14:18 PM |
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UPDATE for customers - preconfigured pools: http://leaserig.net/index.jsp?page=account&pNo need to enter same pool data many times. Just configure your pool once, then use it by hiring rigs (after you hire, these pools are auto-switched to) - true mass hiring is possible now!
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rdnkjdi
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February 19, 2014, 12:24:32 AM |
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All - I'm bringing over another conversation to hopefully get some input. I am wanting to rent a rig to generate some cachecoin. I currently have it posted on leaserig ( http://leaserig.net/index.jsp?t=2) I had 3 questions for anyone who leases out their hashpower. First: Do you see anything glaringly wrong with my order? Second: Is the price close to what you would expect? Less/More? Third: (And I don't completely understand this) but since Scrypt\Jane has a hashrate that goes down over time - is this bid for normal scrypt hash? Or is it assuming the miner will be mining the bid amount of hash with the increased difficulty? (I hope that made sense). Thanks for any help ... hope to find somebody ...
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BotwinBG
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February 19, 2014, 01:18:07 AM |
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Since we are @ fees again. Let me know what do you think about having alt payment method - I was thinking about DOGE. How it would work; each provider could decide to accept DOGE by entering DOGE account. The prices would still be managed in BTC, but if you as a provider accepts DOGE, customer can pay in DOGE. Price would be calculated according to current market price of DOGE, refreshed every 5 minutes. Customers would have 2 wallets online - one for BTC and one for DOGE.
It is not of a big hassle to do this dual payment method, just let me know if there is any interest for it so I do not loose time doing it.
Im in I could try it too.
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kenshirothefist
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February 19, 2014, 07:25:32 AM |
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First: Do you see anything glaringly wrong with my order?
Order looks fine. Second: Is the price close to what you would expect? Less/More?
Speaking as a rig provider: not really. scrypt-jane produces about 75% hashpower comparing to regular scrypt (this is onyl on my very very short testing with quickquickcoin without any fine tuning) ... therefore price should be at least 25% more then regular scrpyt. Plus there are the issues with cgminer confuguration for scypt-jane ... beacuse each algo has it's own --Nfmin, --Nfmax, --StartT, rig provider has to do explicit configuration of cgminer for each separate algo ... that said I would say a price of 0.02 + 25% per/Mh/day with at least 48h rent time would become attractive. (p.s.: I can't provide you my rig because they are all rented, but someone else might do it) Third: (And I don't completely understand this) but since Scrypt\Jane has a hashrate that goes down over time - is this bid for normal scrypt hash? Or is it assuming the miner will be mining the bid amount of hash with the increased difficulty? (I hope that made sense).
Hashrate won't got down so fast ... not in the duration of a couple days lease
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rdnkjdi
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February 19, 2014, 08:13:21 AM |
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First: Do you see anything glaringly wrong with my order?
Order looks fine. Second: Is the price close to what you would expect? Less/More?
Speaking as a rig provider: not really. scrypt-jane produces about 75% hashpower comparing to regular scrypt (this is onyl on my very very short testing with quickquickcoin without any fine tuning) ... therefore price should be at least 25% more then regular scrpyt. Plus there are the issues with cgminer confuguration for scypt-jane ... beacuse each algo has it's own --Nfmin, --Nfmax, --StartT, rig provider has to do explicit configuration of cgminer for each separate algo ... that said I would say a price of 0.02 + 25% per/Mh/day with at least 48h rent time would become attractive. (p.s.: I can't provide you my rig because they are all rented, but someone else might do it) Third: (And I don't completely understand this) but since Scrypt\Jane has a hashrate that goes down over time - is this bid for normal scrypt hash? Or is it assuming the miner will be mining the bid amount of hash with the increased difficulty? (I hope that made sense).
Hashrate won't got down so fast ... not in the duration of a couple days lease Thank you
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