[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[poiuty]

All P2Pool nodes list => http://p2pool.pl/dash-p2p.php
p2p-nodes source code

[Minotaur26]

How does InstantX guard against Blockchain Reorganization after a masternode has locked a transaction?

Reorg simply means that another chain is discovered with more proof-of-work than their own. That also means that all blocks in both chains have been approved by the system and do not contain conflicting transactions. In the case that an approved block does contain a conflicting transaction, the client will remove the block when the lock comes in. So there's no case in which you can switch to a chain with a conflict.

Thanks for explaining.
But does that mean the transaction locking overrides a previous block with an approved transaction if there is a conflict thus voiding the transactions or is it only delayed?

Remember we were discussing about reorg. What Evan explained to me is that blocks with conflicting transactions are rejected by the network the moment they are generated. So approved blocks can't contain conflicting transactions, so the reorg would be only approved blocks. It's like asking how does Bitcoin protect against invalid proof-of-work when doing a re-org, it doesn't consider those blocks for re-org.

I hope this helps.

[toknormal]

Bitcoin going sub $210 on this round of dumping.

Greece getting ready to default.

Varoufakis off to New York to talk to world's top sovereign bankrupcy lawyer.

Rating agencies downgrading them at the 11th hour to save their miserable ar*sses in case they get blamed for giving a positive rating to a bankrupt economy.

IMF warning of liquidity shock.

******** Amber Alert **********

I would not be selling anything with a limited supply right now, not even my stock of jokes.

[ddink7]

Bitcoin going sub $210 on this round of dumping.

Greece getting ready to default.

Varoufakis off to New York to talk to world's top sovereign bankrupcy lawyer.

Rating agencies downgrading them at the 11th hour to save their miserable ar*sses in case they get blamed for giving a positive rating to a bankrupt economy.

IMF warning of liquidity shock.

******** Amber Alert **********

I would not be selling anything with a limited supply right now, not even my stock of jokes.

Capital controls incoming? Cyprus, times 1000?

[coins101]

Bitcoin going sub $210 on this round of dumping.

Greece getting ready to default.

Varoufakis off to New York to talk to world's top sovereign bankrupcy lawyer.

Rating agencies downgrading them at the 11th hour to save their miserable ar*sses in case they get blamed for giving a positive rating to a bankrupt economy.

IMF warning of liquidity shock.

******** Amber Alert **********

I would not be selling anything with a limited supply right now, not even my stock of jokes.

Capital controls incoming? Cyprus, times 1000?

F*ck. I've got a customer that owes me out there.

[GhostPlayer]

LOL - if you weren't so full of shit coins I might believe you :-P LOL

hahaha, that made me laugh.  

 sh!t   Now I'm sure to get back on coins ignore list...  

[coins101]

Bitcoin going sub $210 on this round of dumping.

Greece getting ready to default.

Varoufakis off to New York to talk to world's top sovereign bankrupcy lawyer.

Rating agencies downgrading them at the 11th hour to save their miserable ar*sses in case they get blamed for giving a positive rating to a bankrupt economy.

IMF warning of liquidity shock.

******** Amber Alert **********

I would not be selling anything with a limited supply right now, not even my stock of jokes.

Capital controls incoming? Cyprus, times 1000?

F*ck. I've got a customer that owes me out there.

LOL - if you weren't so full of shit coins I might believe you :-P LOL

I'm actually being serious. The firm owes me about £50k. They're based in Athens, they are pretty solvent, but its the capital controls shit that just spooked me. If they get their bank account controlled, restricted or taxed, I'm pretty screwed on that account.

[Honest Tim]

updated my nodes from 2.17 to 2.22 earlier today.

Started ok and did all the usual checks and then checked DASHninja that we were ok.

Just looked now and they are all off.
Did the "./dashd masternode list", and they were not showing.

I have done a "start many" and they seem to be fine again.

Any clues what I should be looking in the debug for anyone??

[UdjinM6]

updated my nodes from 2.17 to 2.22 earlier today.

Started ok and did all the usual checks and then checked DASHninja that we were ok.

Just looked now and they are all off.
Did the "./dashd masternode list", and they were not showing.

I have done a "start many" and they seem to be fine again.

Any clues what I should be looking in the debug for anyone??

there was a protocol bump, update local wallet too and do "start-many" again

[Sub-Ether]

How does InstantX guard against Blockchain Reorganization after a masternode has locked a transaction?

Reorg simply means that another chain is discovered with more proof-of-work than their own. That also means that all blocks in both chains have been approved by the system and do not contain conflicting transactions. In the case that an approved block does contain a conflicting transaction, the client will remove the block when the lock comes in. So there's no case in which you can switch to a chain with a conflict.

Thanks for explaining.
But does that mean the transaction locking overrides a previous block with an approved transaction if there is a conflict thus voiding the transactions or is it only delayed?

Remember we were discussing about reorg. What Evan explained to me is that blocks with conflicting transactions are rejected by the network the moment they are generated. So approved blocks can't contain conflicting transactions, so the reorg would be only approved blocks. It's like asking how does Bitcoin protect against invalid proof-of-work when doing a re-org, it doesn't consider those blocks for re-org.

I hope this helps.

Yes it helps, had never come across the term 'reorganization' before. So reorg selects the higher difficulty chain or next block and orphans the rest. There is certainly a lot under the crypto hood to understand!

''The term "blockchain reorganization" is used to refer to the situation where a client discovers a new difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain which excludes one or more blocks that the client previously thought were part of the difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain. These excluded blocks become orphans.
Chain reorganization is a client-local phenomenon; the entire bitcoin network doesn't "reorganize" simultaneously.''

[cloudboy]

How does InstantX guard against Blockchain Reorganization after a masternode has locked a transaction?

Reorg simply means that another chain is discovered with more proof-of-work than their own. That also means that all blocks in both chains have been approved by the system and do not contain conflicting transactions. In the case that an approved block does contain a conflicting transaction, the client will remove the block when the lock comes in. So there's no case in which you can switch to a chain with a conflict.

What happens if a longer proof of work is found and it doesn't contain an InstantX that has already been respent?

[Honest Tim]

updated my nodes from 2.17 to 2.22 earlier today.

Started ok and did all the usual checks and then checked DASHninja that we were ok.

Just looked now and they are all off.
Did the "./dashd masternode list", and they were not showing.

I have done a "start many" and they seem to be fine again.

Any clues what I should be looking in the debug for anyone??

there was a protocol bump, update local wallet too and do "start-many" again

oops, thanks chief!

[Sub-Ether]

This might interest you, UdjinM6.
http://johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/41415-hr-1-jbs-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-professor-emeritus-author-soviet-fates-and

[trafficolaa]

EVAN DUFFIELD OF DASH (DARKCOIN): DASH WILL POSITION ITSELF AS A DIRECT COMPETITOR TO BITCOIN

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/

so that is going to happen very soon, that is really great news for DASH holders and after we will see amazing rise in the price to the moon. DASH is more advanced and more fast crypto currency at all.

[TanteStefana2]

-snip-

We've had a lot of groups form to come up with ways of "getting out there".  Right now, I'm with the DASH Ambassador Group, we've been waiting for you!  Where have you been?  LOL.

Cool.

Who were the team leaders, what was the outcome, what level of buy-in did the DASH Foundation have?

Currently, we're helping out on the promotional video.  What does buy-in mean?  

Buy-in:  You could have a group that is on their own and the Foundation won't listen to a bloody thing they say. If, however, the Foundation says, we like this approach and we will listen and take note of everything, and we won't say 'go away because we didn't think of that first' - then you have buy-in.

Or something like that.

I've never really understood the obsession with crypto foundations and why people get so riled up about them. The Dash Foundation (same as the Bitcoin Foundation and others) is just a collection of people who are funded by the community to work on certain goals established by the Foundation's board. If the Foundation becomes out of touch with the community, the community stops donating, funds dry up, and the Foundation dies (happening with Bitcoin right now).

In our case, the Dash Foundation happens to be "endorsed" by our lead dev, but so what? You or me or anybody else can do whatever we want to promote Dash however we chose. The Foundation is nothing more than a centralized entity with a little street cred and some cash. They don't have control over anything.

That's another thing--I've seen several posts over the past weeks about people concerned about how much "power" Evan has. Y'all, Evan has as much power as we give him. Don't like an update that he releases? No problem--don't update your client. If enough of the network doesn't update, then he's effectively cut out. Not that there's any foreseeable reason for that to happen, but you get my point. It's the miners, the MN owners, and the users who choose what version of the software to run.

Finally, there's been talk about the "bus factor" (what if Evan gets hit by a bus tomorrow). It's irrelevant. God forbid we lose Evan...but so what? Bitcoin lost Satoshi and they've managed to survive.

The entire point of crypto is to create a decentralized entity that's in the hand of its users. Some of those users and developers band together to form a Foundation. That's great. Help them, or do your own thing. It's up to you.

Without a foundation, there is no entity to protect the interests of the coin.  So far, they have obtained trademarks for Darkcoin, DarkSend, DASH, etc... I beileve they've written the licensing agreement for Darkcoin/DASH, which, although open, as some requirements when used (credits, I believe they made a modified version of one of the existing licenses)  FYI, it was all done so far with voluntarily time, and donated funds (mostly Evan and others on board)

The foundation is a legal entity that can deal with anything that requires a "person" which would benefit the coin.  They haven't spent any donated funds yet, they post their meeting minutes, and when they decide to spend any of those funds, it will be done transparently.

Finally, a foundation, and it's members can vote on things that require decisions quickly.  If you have a deep interest in the future of DASH, I highly suggest joining the foundation.

It's not like the rest of the world doesn't have a choice.  They have ultimate choice.  They can refuse to upgrade a wallet, and there are forums where they can voice their opinions as well as gather oppositional strength. They can also take over development if enough people back it.  This almost happened with Litecoin when they refused to switch from script.  One day, this whole thing could be huge and ungainly (it already is ungainly - remember last time Evan asked the forum for an opinion?  Ugh!)  This is why there is a foundation.  It comes with positives and negatives but ultimately the node runners and miners decide.

The foundation has tried to set up the rules of governance to be transparent as possible and this original board, though not voted in (chicken and egg scenario) have created a foundation and example for future boards to follow.  Their terms are 2 years, the next board will be voted in.

This isn't a centralized entity for the coin, it is only a group of people that try to do things for the coin.  The developers might ask them their opinion, they may follow it, but the miners and MN and node owners ultimately decide.  Developers are a central point, but they need not be followed. and once the code is accepted by the network, it's once again, decentralized.

And you're right, we can have dozens or more foundations for DASH.  They can each have their own reason for being.  They can all have the same reason for being and fight eachother, or work together.  But at the moment, I think only one is needed ;P

[ShopemNL]

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[ddink7]

Who has 11% of the coin supply? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm

Now that link shows only 14k DASH in that wallet.

The site says "This feature is very experimental, inaccurate and not updated in real-time."

[oblox]

Who has 11% of the coin supply? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm

Now that link shows only 14k DASH in that wallet.

The site says "This feature is very experimental, inaccurate and not updated in real-time."

You can still see the inputs scraped for all the masternodes here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1702385.htm

[ddink7]

Who has 11% of the coin supply? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm

Now that link shows only 14k DASH in that wallet.

The site says "This feature is very experimental, inaccurate and not updated in real-time."

You can still see the inputs scraped for all the masternodes here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1702385.htm

Wow! OK, I see your point!

[UdjinM6]

This might interest you, UdjinM6.
http://johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/41415-hr-1-jbs-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-professor-emeritus-author-soviet-fates-and

That's kind of off topic, you know 

[off topic]
He makes some interesting points in that discussion but there is one problem - Russia actually annexed Crimea and invaded a small part of Eastern Ukraine with its military forces. First part is confirmed even by "president" of Russia itself in an official "documentary" film "Crimea. The way back Home." Second part is confirmed by many unofficial reports only yet but give it a time. It's a state-level terrorism. End of discussion.
[/off topic]

Ok, back to work