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I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram.
You aren't kidding.. I just checked my 270's and they are only utilizing 150-200 MB's each.. I wonder how the 260x hashes on this algorithm.. anyone here have one?
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February 21, 2014, 02:58:46 AM |
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Oohhhh nice nice.... Do you think that trading with crypto follow the same rules than forex? Certainly. Of course, technical analysis is full of confirmation bias so I could very easily be wrong
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I must say I started mining this coin yesterday and everything runs 50% plus cooler. I need to get my killawatt out and see the draw compared to a normal scrypt coin. So far I love it!
Thanks Devs
I also put few of my card to mine this coin and it's true that cards run a lot cooler. Please post results from that killawatt reader. Ok here are the results. This miner is a 4x270 Normal Coin: 887 - 892 Darkcoin: 550-552 That's a huge difference on my power bill Yep. Mining scrypt my rig pulls 1150W doing 2.1Mh/s. On darkcoin it uses 650W doing 6.2Mh/s. As someone else has pointed out earlier though, this reduced power consumption could simply be because there's way more code optimisation to be done yet and the GPUs are only doing 50% of what is possible. I can make my GPUs run cooler mining scrypt coins too (and more efficiently) if I want to. Here's another point of view... assuming that we can't push any more performance out of the GPUs while mining darkcoin, it could be argued that it is less efficient because you need to purchase 2 cards to do the work that 1 card should be capable of, in terms of raw computing power. I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram. Also, isn't heat (from a physics perspective) considered a by product, or mark of inefficiency? An incandescent lightbulb uses part of the energy input to make heat, which is inefficient. An LED light makes much less heat, and is much more efficient (as a measure of energy input vs light output).
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February 21, 2014, 03:01:32 AM |
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Two more. That's it, I'm taking a break. XwBidPQVnGFEzqfJbTybS9gyXX2yu1JbfM The Blue and gold one! +5 DRK to you, my friend!
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February 21, 2014, 03:02:06 AM |
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NEW VERSION CPU MINER, ABOUT 10% IMPROVEMENT* https://github.com/elmad/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aesI improved the cpu miner for another 10% and updated the project on github. I tried different processors and I've seen an improvement from 8% to 11%. Remember, this version works only for processor that support the AES-NI instruction set. Here the list of Intel processors supporting it: http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced/?AESTech=trueAnd for AMD, the series: Bulldozer-based, Piledriver-based and Jaguar-based. Let me know what is your improvement with your cpu. Binaries for Windows version will come (some tip can accellerate the process ) * Donations are very appreciated + 5-9 khash/s on the thread!! i7 3630QM-Ubuntu13.10 350-390 khash/s Thank you!!! I WANT MORE!!!
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February 21, 2014, 03:02:13 AM |
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Buy than tell you so whats different about this coin, if you can tell me I will buy 100 of them now
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February 21, 2014, 03:03:40 AM |
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I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram.
You aren't kidding.. I just checked my 270's and they are only utilizing 150-200 MB's each..I wonder how the 260x hashes on this algorithm.. anyone here have one? Where/how can you see that?
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February 21, 2014, 03:04:27 AM |
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These metal coins are badass. Well done.
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February 21, 2014, 03:05:40 AM |
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I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram.
You aren't kidding.. I just checked my 270's and they are only utilizing 150-200 MB's each.. I wonder how the 260x hashes on this algorithm.. anyone here have one? I don't have a great gpu, but I did notice that I could set the -I up way higher mining darkcoin than I could mining litecoin. FYI so give it a try??
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February 21, 2014, 03:11:39 AM |
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Anyone else impressed that we're the ONLY crypto that is up today above #20? I wish we were, because my funds just cleared and I bought my dark with it, LOL, but I think it's held lower because of all the Mtgox problems, so I'm thankful I could still buy some at an Ok price. (actually it's probably a great price, but a week ago, I could have gotten 3 times as many dark with the bitcoin I bought, grrr, had to wait a week for my bits to clear ) yah, this coin is still relatively unknown, it's going to explode soon.
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February 21, 2014, 03:11:50 AM |
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Two more. That's it, I'm taking a break. XwBidPQVnGFEzqfJbTybS9gyXX2yu1JbfM Those are both sexy. Hey those are great! The developers want the bar behind the D though, like in my concept coin. Take a look. I think you can just make it one piece of metal but the D with the interior like mine.
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I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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February 21, 2014, 03:11:57 AM |
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NEW VERSION CPU MINER, ABOUT 10% IMPROVEMENT* https://github.com/elmad/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aesI improved the cpu miner for another 10% and updated the project on github. I tried different processors and I've seen an improvement from 8% to 11%. Remember, this version works only for processor that support the AES-NI instruction set. Here the list of Intel processors supporting it: http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced/?AESTech=trueAnd for AMD, the series: Bulldozer-based, Piledriver-based and Jaguar-based. Let me know what is your improvement with your cpu. Binaries for Windows version will come (some tip can accellerate the process ) * Donations are very appreciated About a 10% increase for me... Any chance of a windows compiled version?
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February 21, 2014, 03:13:26 AM |
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I must say I started mining this coin yesterday and everything runs 50% plus cooler. I need to get my killawatt out and see the draw compared to a normal scrypt coin. So far I love it!
Thanks Devs
I also put few of my card to mine this coin and it's true that cards run a lot cooler. Please post results from that killawatt reader. Ok here are the results. This miner is a 4x270 Normal Coin: 887 - 892 Darkcoin: 550-552 That's a huge difference on my power bill Yep. Mining scrypt my rig pulls 1150W doing 2.1Mh/s. On darkcoin it uses 650W doing 6.2Mh/s. As someone else has pointed out earlier though, this reduced power consumption could simply be because there's way more code optimisation to be done yet and the GPUs are only doing 50% of what is possible. I can make my GPUs run cooler mining scrypt coins too (and more efficiently) if I want to. Here's another point of view... assuming that we can't push any more performance out of the GPUs while mining darkcoin, it could be argued that it is less efficient because you need to purchase 2 cards to do the work that 1 card should be capable of, in terms of raw computing power. I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram. Also, isn't heat (from a physics perspective) considered a by product, or mark of inefficiency? An incandescent lightbuld uses part of the energy input to make heat, which is inefficient. An LED light makes much less heat, and is much more efficient (as a measure of energy input vs light output). Indeed, but all of the electricity used by a computer is turned into heat, there is no other type of energy output (if you ignore light from the screen and sound from the speakers).
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February 21, 2014, 03:14:29 AM |
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Yet another point of view: Because of the variations in the algorithms, there might be more CPU involvement, and the GPU will never reach "peak efficiency" because it is being re-tasked to run a different algorithm, which will take some number of cycles away from raw computer cycles, or at least running them differently...
[Disclaimer: It's quite possible I'm completely off base here]
CPU use is practically 0% for me. Actually the cpu is so free that it can run cpuminer at full speed, like the gpu miner didn't even exist. I think that the GPU is simply losing time in some operations in which it is not good at. CPUs on the other hand may "rape", in terms of speed, some operations that the GPU cannot due to, say, lack of instruction set, large l1 cache etc.
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February 21, 2014, 03:14:47 AM |
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Anyone else here getting the feeling the price of Darkcoin is about to explode?
Normally I don't make posts like this, but I'm feeling a breakout tonight. I'm liking what I see in the charts.
Hmm can you explain... Crystal ball? The video with 96 views 2 hours ago? Ilumination? The successfull test of DarkSend yesterday? I feel it too, in the bones, LOL. Otherwise I would have waited to but my dark, but I fear I won't see it this low again . Our sweet early days are over, I feel nostalgic, LOL
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February 21, 2014, 03:16:42 AM |
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Two more. That's it, I'm taking a break. XwBidPQVnGFEzqfJbTybS9gyXX2yu1JbfM I really love the blue one!!!
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February 21, 2014, 03:17:11 AM |
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I must say I started mining this coin yesterday and everything runs 50% plus cooler. I need to get my killawatt out and see the draw compared to a normal scrypt coin. So far I love it!
Thanks Devs
I also put few of my card to mine this coin and it's true that cards run a lot cooler. Please post results from that killawatt reader. Ok here are the results. This miner is a 4x270 Normal Coin: 887 - 892 Darkcoin: 550-552 That's a huge difference on my power bill Yep. Mining scrypt my rig pulls 1150W doing 2.1Mh/s. On darkcoin it uses 650W doing 6.2Mh/s. As someone else has pointed out earlier though, this reduced power consumption could simply be because there's way more code optimisation to be done yet and the GPUs are only doing 50% of what is possible. I can make my GPUs run cooler mining scrypt coins too (and more efficiently) if I want to. Here's another point of view... assuming that we can't push any more performance out of the GPUs while mining darkcoin, it could be argued that it is less efficient because you need to purchase 2 cards to do the work that 1 card should be capable of, in terms of raw computing power. I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram. Also, isn't heat (from a physics perspective) considered a by product, or mark of inefficiency? An incandescent lightbuld uses part of the energy input to make heat, which is inefficient. An LED light makes much less heat, and is much more efficient (as a measure of energy input vs light output). Indeed, but all of the electricity used by a computer is turned into heat, there is no other type of energy output (if you ignore light from the screen and sound from the speakers). Don't agree... The energy output now is .... DarkCoin !
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February 21, 2014, 03:18:16 AM |
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About a 10% increase for me...
Any chance of a windows compiled version?
I removed now the big optimization, too much CPU dependent... Try now and PM me if you want again that 10%, I'll say to you what change on the code...
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February 21, 2014, 03:20:07 AM |
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Also, isn't heat (from a physics perspective) considered a by product, or mark of inefficiency? An incandescent lightbuld uses part of the energy input to make heat, which is inefficient. An LED light makes much less heat, and is much more efficient (as a measure of energy input vs light output).
Efficiency is not counted that way (excess heat vs work done) in semiconductor chips... These have high resistance and thus practically all energy passing through them is converted to heat. If a chip consumes 10w of energy, then it also produces ~10w of heat.
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February 21, 2014, 03:21:52 AM |
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Two more. That's it, I'm taking a break. XwBidPQVnGFEzqfJbTybS9gyXX2yu1JbfM Love it, just ONE small change and we are going to use it! Made the outer ring silver. If you can make us that with a transparent background, we are DONE! And when we get the physical coins made I will send you one.
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