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Question: What payout model do you prefer?
Classic shared block payout model - 100 (42%)
Score based payout model - 62 (26.1%)
Pay per share payout model - 76 (31.9%)
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March 08, 2011, 06:19:59 PM
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Why is it 4 hours ago I had 10 btc total bounty now I have 0 and no payout?
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March 08, 2011, 07:07:11 PM
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Why is it 4 hours ago I had 10 btc total bounty now I have 0 and no payout?

I apply several updates for system.
Some updates include money recalculation, you just catch a moment when old results deleted Smiley

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March 08, 2011, 07:33:21 PM
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Why is it 4 hours ago I had 10 btc total bounty now I have 0 and no payout?

I apply several updates for system.
Some updates include money recalculation, you just catch a moment when old results deleted Smiley


Am i still in that moment? because it still says 0.

Actually I just checked under "money" and its listed there. Should it stay under bounty? Or does that go away when the block is confirmed?
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March 08, 2011, 07:43:40 PM
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and what's that "Debit/Credit" about on the money-page?
can i owe you money at some point?

it says "MY MONEY (last 25 transactions)",
what transactions? there haven't been any.

the complete bounty-, treasure-, money-stats totally confuse me.

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March 08, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
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Why is it 4 hours ago I had 10 btc total bounty now I have 0 and no payout?

I apply several updates for system.
Some updates include money recalculation, you just catch a moment when old results deleted Smiley


Am i still in that moment? because it still says 0.

Actually I just checked under "money" and its listed there. Should it stay under bounty? Or does that go away when the block is confirmed?

It's ok,  actual payments creation disabled for all modes until first block confirmed.
I use independent database tables, for money flow and for payment processing.
I just need recheck all work stages.
After testing, I enable instant payments creation for pay per share mode.

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March 08, 2011, 08:06:21 PM
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and what's that "Debit/Credit" about on the money-page?
can i owe you money at some point?

it says "MY MONEY (last 25 transactions)",
what transactions? there haven't been any.

the complete bounty-, treasure-, money-stats totally confuse me.
1) Nop, is just money flow.   
There is restriction for minimal transaction (0.01) in current bitcoin client and user defined payment treshold.
Until money pass restrictions, they accumulated on balance. 
When we pass restrictions, new payment created (payments tabs) and later processed
"last 25" - right now only last 25 transactions listed, full history with pagination and sorting in TODO list
2) All transactions created when pool solve block, but for shared block mode system wait 120 confirmations.
3) bounty - it's estimated and actual unconfirmed/confirmed rewards, before money go to balance
4) treasure is just statistics


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March 08, 2011, 09:06:35 PM
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no need to estimate rewards, or to wait for confirmation when running PayPerShare, yet it's there,
for how long? til a block gets solved, then it goes to MyMoney balance for how long? til the next block is found?

very confusing it is,
i've tested ALL pools (well, at least all that have been public) and this is by far the most complicated stats-/payout-scheme i'v ever seen.

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March 08, 2011, 10:03:56 PM
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no need to estimate rewards, or to wait for confirmation when running PayPerShare, yet it's there,
for how long? til a block gets solved, then it goes to MyMoney balance for how long? til the next block is found?

very confusing it is,
i've tested ALL pools (well, at least all that have been public) and this is by far the most complicated stats-/payout-scheme i'v ever seen.
1)  Money transactions != Payment transactions

Money transaction created when pool solve block for pay per share, and after 120 confirmations for shared block (aka proportional) mode.
Payment transactions created from money transactions, instantly for pay per share and when block confirmed for proportional.

Payments creation disabled for both payment modes, until I check all money flow stages.  It's open Alpha test.

2) Maybe, but I think other pools just hide this process  from user, or id pool use pay per share model, all this stages not need.

I need more time for web site UI and help/faq, and more stats for users, then all this will become clearer Smiley

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March 08, 2011, 10:41:56 PM
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yeah, i'm sure more stats will make things clearer.  Cheesy

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March 08, 2011, 11:41:45 PM
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Sorry if this was already addressed, but im in pps mode and my Estimated bounty hasnt moved in about an hour. How often is the Estimated bounty updated?
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March 09, 2011, 02:00:22 AM
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Sorry if this was already addressed, but im in pps mode and my Estimated bounty hasnt moved in about an hour. How often is the Estimated bounty updated?
Actually estimated bounty updated every minute, you a sure?
Maybe there a cache on your side, I check your stats  and all seems normal.
I check on a test account right now.

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March 09, 2011, 02:18:37 AM
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Ok, pool found 2nd block!
We are closer to the start of payments Smiley

p.s. and this block found bitjet !  Grin

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March 09, 2011, 02:40:00 AM
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During alpha test all payments are processed daily.
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We are closer to the start of payments
Huh
try to confuse me again, huh?
if i get that right, noone has been paid so far.

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March 09, 2011, 02:44:49 AM
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During alpha test all payments are processed daily.
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We are closer to the start of payments
Huh
try to confuse me again, huh?
if i get that right, noone has been paid so far.
I start poll with fresh wallet.
There no money on it, until pool received first money from first block.
Even if I enable payments creation right now, all payments will stay on hold. 
It's not possible pay pps with zero balance.
When we collect more money, payment process stabilizes.
Just be patient, all will be ok Smiley

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March 09, 2011, 02:46:25 AM
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well, you implemented PayPerShare, so you should calculate possible losses on your site for quite some time anyways,
not a good idea todo with an empty wallet.

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March 09, 2011, 02:54:37 AM
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well, you implemented PayPerShare, so you should calculate possible losses on your site for quite some time anyways,
not a good idea todo with an empty wallet.
Well, may have to start without pps, but I need to test all modes simultaneously.
An you forgot one thing,  right now commission just 1% for all modes - too low for instant pps Smiley

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March 09, 2011, 03:05:59 AM
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Pool found third block Smiley

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March 09, 2011, 03:49:11 AM
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m0mchil's poclbm is not supported by your pool ?
Tried to connect with jgarzik and everything is fine, but with poclbm all i got is "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC"

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March 09, 2011, 04:07:29 AM
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m0mchil's poclbm is not supported by your pool ?
Tried to connect with jgarzik and everything is fine, but with poclbm all i got is "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC"

It works just fine Im using it.
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March 09, 2011, 04:35:19 AM
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m0mchil's poclbm is not supported by your pool ?
Tried to connect with jgarzik and everything is fine, but with poclbm all i got is "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC"

Probably I apply hotfix, when you try to connect Smiley
And recheck your miner settings.

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