[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[mvag]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

http://nxt.sx/images/nem/nem_sketches-1.png
http://nxt.sx/images/nem/nem_sketches-2.png
http://nxt.sx/images/nem/nem_sketches-3.png

[spndr7]

@mvag

Great design by your friend .

8th design is the best one

[Tompa]

Yes! That would be great! Please clarify about it. I would love to earn another stake for my young son by translating to Croatian whatever is required. Please give us instructions how will that buying another stake work.
Should we create another BCT.org account for that stake? or do you have some other idea?

Hi NEM is intended to appeal to a board range of people from many aspects of life on the basis of crypto equality and comradeship. As I said before, I don't see why one person having two stakes is a problem especially if one is buying one share as a gift for your loved one. The developers/ helpers of this project will certainly have multiple shares as  well. We are good as long as we keep our idea of fairness and the egalitarian principle.

You could create another account, and better yet an account under your son's name and say so when you reserves a stake spot.

Update: I am updating the list; since it goes up faster than I expect, the next update will probably up to page 84 or 85. Thanks.

Thank you for your instructions. I've just registered a new account for my son under ID Tompasson :-)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4818913#msg4818913

First I was thinking on sending BTCs but waking up Armory and waiting for couple of hours for blockchain sync in comparison to NXT was out of the question. :-)
NXT is ubersuperior to BTC. I have great dreams of what NEM can achieve. :-)

[CycleSurfer]

Yeah, great set of logo's.  My favorite is Version #6 (on the far left).  Second choice is Version #1 (the one with the circle).

[d13id]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

Version 5 is the best one

[Silicium]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

I prefer the first logo on the left of the version 1. Actually, since we are aiming at being the silver NXT, I'm guessing that the siver one shoud be more appropriate, but I found the gold one to have more punch.

The two on left side of the version 8 are also very good.

Anyway congrats your friend, he did a very good job!

[ScroogeD]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

Version 5 is the best one

I agree, 5th is the best. It's decent, but complex. Took some seconds to see the N, E, M.

[Jenska]

Hey!

Im tried to make some logos with my ipad, so these are quite opposite compared to the ones in last pages. Hope you enjoy! Of course these are just raw-sketches so if needed i will try my best to upgrade those.
It would be cool to get some feedback.

Hopefully with this effort i could take a part of NEM- stakes?


Version 1.

http://s29.postimg.org/hiodsto2f/image.jpg

Version 2.

http://s29.postimg.org/f7lqawnx3/image.jpg


Version 3.

http://s29.postimg.org/wh6sn934n/image.jpg

Version 4.

http://s29.postimg.org/i6x8brms7/image.jpg

Version 5.

http://s29.postimg.org/qcfbxgniv/image.jpg

Version 6.

http://s29.postimg.org/qmmugt253/image.jpg

[BestofSR]

version 5 looks pro and sophisticated...i would play with different color combinations

[Thies1965]

I would favor for version 1.

Because it is definitively different to those technical Coin looks...

[zexcard]

 Hi, I present a sketch logo NEM.



http://www.udostepniaj.pl/images/a1us6mz22lxre6nuh9d.jpg

[Thies1965]

Mining is called forging with NXT.
It is advertised that transparent forging is one of the key factors and differentiators of NXT.

I tried to understand the algorithm behind that forging mechanism. I did not find anything (except looking into the decompiled code).

IMHO: NXT concept of forging does not follow the approach of 'fairness'; it generates GODS and GIANTS. The more NXT you have the more NXT you will receive. This approach does not support the concept behind NEM.

A much more flexible and less chunk building algorithm has to be developed/defined.

Any suggestions / ideas?

[NEMcoin]

Yes, this is one of the biggest problems. It disrupts the whole idea of equality, fairness and stuff But it can be changed I don't know how at the moment.
Maybe the fee should be divided equally to everyone?
That would attract more users.

[patmast3r]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

I don't like Version 2 and 7. The rest is really great. Props to your friend

[cryptoknightt]

A few NEM logo sketches, on behalf of my friend who does not have an account here.

I don't like Version 2 and 7. The rest is really great. Props to your friend

I like #6. Man these are really good!

[Zahlen]

I would like to throw in another aspect which might be important for broader acceptance.
We try to spread NEM to a much broader base of user types.

We have all senior users in respect to crypto currencies on focus but also we would like to draw in NEWBIEs to crypto.

In long discussions, I have with friends and also with private equity consultants, the most NEWBIEs fear (beside loosing money, sure..) is to tackle with technical issues they are not capable to understand (or willing) nor to solve. So NEM has to provide an understandable and easy way for those NEWBIEs. Cryptic long numbers do not help them to understand whether they have a BITCOIN; NXT or whatever wallet address.

IMHO, the public address for NEM has to reflect some clear indicators that we do have a NEM account here.

I agree. ricot's proposal for NXT may include a "NXT" prefix for the encoded addresses. We could do something similar as a standard suggestion for how folks could display their addresses. (Maybe in practice, folks will see it as redundant and just omit it. But we should start things off clear for everyone and leave that choice up to them.)

- I will also change the account numbers to be more bitcoin-like

Will you be using the proposed Reed-Solomon encoding ricot and NxtChg are working on for Nxt?

I'm thinking a different format would be better, so that NEM addresses can't (in general) be interpreted as NXT addresses by clients and vice-versa. There are simpler encoding schemes (linear codes) which can also do character typo detection and correction (but, unlike Reed-Solomon, not for character omission), and which don't require field algebra. They can be easily implemented from scratch without using 3rd party libraries.

I can expand on this if there's interest.

I wasn't planning on using Reed-Solomon encoding, but I'd be interested in hearing you expand on your suggestion.

I brought our conversation over to nxtcrypto: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=694&p=3245

[Zahlen]

mvag, I really like your friend's designs!

[gramufibus]

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Edited my post to take out the rough ideas, and here is my finished design. 

[Xpedite]

Mining is called forging with NXT.
It is advertised that transparent forging is one of the key factors and differentiators of NXT.

I tried to understand the algorithm behind that forging mechanism. I did not find anything (except looking into the decompiled code).

IMHO: NXT concept of forging does not follow the approach of 'fairness'; it generates GODS and GIANTS. The more NXT you have the more NXT you will receive. This approach does not support the concept behind NEM.

A much more flexible and less chunk building algorithm has to be developed/defined.

Any suggestions / ideas?

I could't agree more!
It should be as fair as possible so definately not solely based on account balance, since this eliminates 'middle class' users.

[utopianfuture]

Update: Hey I updated the stakeholder list to page 85, now we are close to 1500 stakeholders and should pass that mark pretty soon.

I also added some explanations there to make my stakeholder's list work transparent. Your post in the registration thread is the proof that you belong to the list or not. Since page 81+ I have to check the sending addresses so it takes a bit more time. The next update would be tomorrow.

There are also more explanations to the development stake sheet; Now I only put a name on a dev stake when I am absolutely sure that a dev stake would go that way. So many dev stakes would only be allocated very close to the genesis block.