[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[DMDCreeper]

I think you guys are confused?

This is the ETH ANN not the ETC - ETC posting crap here is not going to go down well.

Not, that you guys are learning.

You keep writing about ETC and some person read what you written, who had ETC stolen from their ETC-QT wallet. He/She posted a question for you lot to answer.

You've offered no explanation as too how coins can be stolen out of a ETC-QT wallet.

Why don't you answer it? More people have had ETH stolen.

Why don't you answer why this guy lost $50,000 of ETH? https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4yru3h/scared_and_confused/

Is Vitalik so smart he didn't use checksums like Bitcoin had from day one?

There is vast difference, from exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposits - I've had 8 of those in past 2 years for various Alts

The guy posted about, his home computer and ETC-QT wallet having coins disappear.

Exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposit are a pretty common experience - nobody posts that stuff on ANN.

They use the exchange's support page.

This guys was posting about his home computer and ETC coins disappear from it, which is entirely different thing.

You guys refuse to offer an explanation as too how a ETC-QT wallet on a home computer can have coins disappear!

And this is why I feel compelled to warn people against ETC.  If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone mining ETC or holding ETC in their wallet.

Those who support it offer no help they only get defensive and point fingers at ETH.   I am mining ETC for months and have never had a similar problem.  I mined ETC for just 1 week and had two separate losses of coins.

If those who claim ETC is so classic care so little about the vulnerability of what they support then their intentions should be very clear.

ETH will grow and prosper.  ETC with die a slow death until more and more people realize its a scam for thieves.

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[roselee]

I think you guys are confused?

This is the ETH ANN not the ETC - ETC posting crap here is not going to go down well.

Not, that you guys are learning.

You keep writing about ETC and some person read what you written, who had ETC stolen from their ETC-QT wallet. He/She posted a question for you lot to answer.

You've offered no explanation as too how coins can be stolen out of a ETC-QT wallet.

Why don't you answer it? More people have had ETH stolen.

Why don't you answer why this guy lost $50,000 of ETH? https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4yru3h/scared_and_confused/

Is Vitalik so smart he didn't use checksums like Bitcoin had from day one?

There is vast difference, from exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposits - I've had 8 of those in past 2 years for various Alts

The guy posted about, his home computer and ETC-QT wallet having coins disappear.

Exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposit are a pretty common experience - nobody posts that stuff on ANN.

They use the exchange's support page.

This guys was posting about his home computer and ETC coins disappear from it, which is entirely different thing.

You guys refuse to offer an explanation as too how a ETC-QT wallet on a home computer can have coins disappear!

And this is why I feel compelled to warn people against ETC.  If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone mining ETC or holding ETC in their wallet.

Those who support it offer no help they only get defensive and point fingers at ETH.   I am mining ETC for months and have never had a similar problem.  I mined ETC for just 1 week and had two separate losses of coins.

If those who claim ETC is so classic care so little about the vulnerability of what they support then their intentions should be very clear.

ETH will grow and prosper.  ETC with die a slow death until more and more people realize its a scam for thieves.

i asked you if it can be a replay attack but never got answer from you
lets start with some info

what wallet do you use ?
when did it happen ?
how many coins?
what tx id ?
can you do screenshots and show them ?

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Made a Thread for all the Optimisations for Dual mining with Claymore Miner for ETH:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1594195.msg16010443#msg16010443

[roselee]

do you know of this ?
http://www.coindesk.com/25-million-of-dao-ether-still-remain-one-month-after-hard-fork/

thats a huge number

[Sm00kew]

just a list after a month of existance:

Wallets here: 
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0
Get new "etc only" geth node here https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases/tag/6aaf5f3

New
Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
So no need to download the blockchain https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet
Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#replay-protection

Mining pools that are know good payers  https://etc.suprnova.cc/ or  http://epool.io/#/ or  https://etc.nanopool.org/
other pools are available, (please help others and tell us the good from the bad)

Solo Mining How-to for Windows  on bottom of page 191 of this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.3800

Network Hashrate is 654.9 GH/s   http://fork.ethstats.net/
Mining Profit Calculator  https://www.whattomine.com/

Additional Tools
Official Block Explorer  http://blocks.elaineou.com/home

New
Ethereum Classic website   https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
Now with links to the New ETHEREUM CLASSIC FORUM, just follow “SOCIAL LINK” on the Ethereum Classic Website


Come aboard, All miners are Welcome!
Please watch this video & try to begin to understand how you can help scale this project. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8oeiOeDq_Nc

Follow the progress of the 12 Person Dev team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here: https://trello.com/etcdev
We have 100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key   
700 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
And World support from many miners like Chandler Guo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI

Post this trash somewhere else please, this is ethereum thread not ethereum copypaste thread.

[malekbaba]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

[bitpop]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

True but if there is going to be good dapps, they're going to be on ETC, espcially DNM, profitable dapps

[malekbaba]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

True but if there is going to be good dapps, they're going to be on ETC, espcially DNM, profitable dapps

What are the dapps being developed with ETC, any lists ? Or do they working on DAPPS for real ? I have just lost my sleep. DAMN !

[frostminer]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

Two sinking ships.

Another ethash will take over.

[DMDCreeper]

I think you guys are confused?

This is the ETH ANN not the ETC - ETC posting crap here is not going to go down well.

Not, that you guys are learning.

You keep writing about ETC and some person read what you written, who had ETC stolen from their ETC-QT wallet. He/She posted a question for you lot to answer.

You've offered no explanation as too how coins can be stolen out of a ETC-QT wallet.

Why don't you answer it? More people have had ETH stolen.

Why don't you answer why this guy lost $50,000 of ETH? https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4yru3h/scared_and_confused/

Is Vitalik so smart he didn't use checksums like Bitcoin had from day one?

There is vast difference, from exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposits - I've had 8 of those in past 2 years for various Alts

The guy posted about, his home computer and ETC-QT wallet having coins disappear.

Exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposit are a pretty common experience - nobody posts that stuff on ANN.

They use the exchange's support page.

This guys was posting about his home computer and ETC coins disappear from it, which is entirely different thing.

You guys refuse to offer an explanation as too how a ETC-QT wallet on a home computer can have coins disappear!

And this is why I feel compelled to warn people against ETC.  If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone mining ETC or holding ETC in their wallet.

Those who support it offer no help they only get defensive and point fingers at ETH.   I am mining ETC for months and have never had a similar problem.  I mined ETC for just 1 week and had two separate losses of coins.

If those who claim ETC is so classic care so little about the vulnerability of what they support then their intentions should be very clear.

ETH will grow and prosper.  ETC with die a slow death until more and more people realize its a scam for thieves.

i asked you if it can be a replay attack but never got answer from you
lets start with some info

what wallet do you use ?
when did it happen ?
how many coins?
what tx id ?
can you do screenshots and show them ?

Funny.  I posted the issue (both times) in the ETC forum when it happened.  But now, in the ETH forum someone wants to discuss this.

I think I posted numerous times that I do not know what happened.  I was looking for answers but I posted I saw a geth console message about a possible replay attack.  But the coins I lost were POW rewards AFTER the fork.

The first incident occurred on August 12, the second on August 15.

The fist incident involved 8 ETC, the second 10.  In both cases the loss was roughly 50% of my total balance. There are no transactions showing the decrease in ETC in the wallet.  I do not have transaction IDs.  Taking a screen shot was not an option since I had no idea I was going to be robbed and therefore did not take a before shot. 

[SHP-YTC]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

[thedreamer]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

Its because you're trying to mine to nicehash. Use a real pool and earn much more.

[SHP-YTC]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

Its because you're trying to mine to nicehash. Use a real pool and earn much more.

I also tried Supernova, same.

[IncludeBeer]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

True but if there is going to be good dapps, they're going to be on ETC, espcially DNM, profitable dapps

While poor bitpop spreads fud, Ethereum makes real progress:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/microsoft-harvard-ucl-take-steps-bulletproof-smart-contracts/

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Do not you think gyus that people have lost their thrust over Ethereum. Thereby both ETC and ETH is suffering. Eth has less movement than before. Can any one say when the black cloud will fly away ? I was really in love with ETHEREUM

True but if there is going to be good dapps, they're going to be on ETC, espcially DNM, profitable dapps

While poor bitpop spreads fud, Ethereum makes real progress:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/microsoft-harvard-ucl-take-steps-bulletproof-smart-contracts/

Yelp, Ethereum Foundation response to "The DAO" super-hack with a anti-crime Hard Fork is starting to pay off - academics and universities are approving!

"Furthermore, this appears to be a sign of approval from institutions and researchers of Ethereum’s direction and response to the DAO debacle which has allowed the community to put that mistake fully behind and now focus its energies on actually providing solutions."

Anti-crime measures, have impressed the serious people who work outside crypto-currencies

[roselee]

I think you guys are confused?

This is the ETH ANN not the ETC - ETC posting crap here is not going to go down well.

Not, that you guys are learning.

You keep writing about ETC and some person read what you written, who had ETC stolen from their ETC-QT wallet. He/She posted a question for you lot to answer.

You've offered no explanation as too how coins can be stolen out of a ETC-QT wallet.

Why don't you answer it? More people have had ETH stolen.

Why don't you answer why this guy lost $50,000 of ETH? https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4yru3h/scared_and_confused/

Is Vitalik so smart he didn't use checksums like Bitcoin had from day one?

There is vast difference, from exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposits - I've had 8 of those in past 2 years for various Alts

The guy posted about, his home computer and ETC-QT wallet having coins disappear.

Exchange wallet errors on withdrawals and deposit are a pretty common experience - nobody posts that stuff on ANN.

They use the exchange's support page.

This guys was posting about his home computer and ETC coins disappear from it, which is entirely different thing.

You guys refuse to offer an explanation as too how a ETC-QT wallet on a home computer can have coins disappear!

And this is why I feel compelled to warn people against ETC.  If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone mining ETC or holding ETC in their wallet.

Those who support it offer no help they only get defensive and point fingers at ETH.   I am mining ETC for months and have never had a similar problem.  I mined ETC for just 1 week and had two separate losses of coins.

If those who claim ETC is so classic care so little about the vulnerability of what they support then their intentions should be very clear.

ETH will grow and prosper.  ETC with die a slow death until more and more people realize its a scam for thieves.

i asked you if it can be a replay attack but never got answer from you
lets start with some info

what wallet do you use ?
when did it happen ?
how many coins?
what tx id ?
can you do screenshots and show them ?

Funny.  I posted the issue (both times) in the ETC forum when it happened.  But now, in the ETH forum someone wants to discuss this.

I think I posted numerous times that I do not know what happened.  I was looking for answers but I posted I saw a geth console message about a possible replay attack.  But the coins I lost were POW rewards AFTER the fork.

The first incident occurred on August 12, the second on August 15.

The fist incident involved 8 ETC, the second 10.  In both cases the loss was roughly 50% of my total balance. There are no transactions showing the decrease in ETC in the wallet.  I do not have transaction IDs.  Taking a screen shot was not an option since I had no idea I was going to be robbed and therefore did not take a before shot. 

it will be interesting to find out but it is also difficult becouse of the little info you can give.

what wallet is it ?
and what os do you use ?

[malekbaba]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

Its because you're trying to mine to nicehash. Use a real pool and earn much more.

can any one tell me which pool and miner works best for ETH ? please

[Bokelka]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

Its because you're trying to mine to nicehash. Use a real pool and earn much more.

can any one tell me which pool and miner works best for ETH ? please

The Etherpool.org is the best for me. I like the solo mining mode. But you have to have at least 1GH/s to benefit. I use the Claymore miner.

[malekbaba]

Hello there!
Excuse me if messed up.
I'm trying to mine Ethereum and Ethereum Classic with my PC.
My GPU is a GTX 780 Ti AMP! and I get 3-4 MH/s?!?!
I use Windows 10 64-Bit and the 347.52 driver.
Other people are getting anything between 15-20 MH/s.
Whats wrong?
Please help.
I even tried Genoil's miner and got even worse performance.

Best regards-

Its because you're trying to mine to nicehash. Use a real pool and earn much more.

can any one tell me which pool and miner works best for ETH ? please

The Etherpool.org is the best for me. I like the solo mining mode. But you have to have at least 1GH/s to benefit. I use the Claymore miner.

So do you solo mine or mine in pools? BTW thanks a lot for your answer.

[Mrpumperitis]

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now after 7 years we have become wiser and we are becoming the new elders...
who wouldve thought that all of us would be leading the next finanacial revolution   welldone satnak  
not even once in a lifetime people have had an opportunity like this,   many many generations pass before the next worldwide financial change.
in under 7days, we could show the world that we are ready for the next big step up and lead us to the next stage of financial evolution, where internet is everywhere, on everything......

WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD...
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WELCOME TO ETHEREUM