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December 01, 2018, 03:52:41 PM |
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There is no better example for a ponzi scam then Ethereum. Do you know what a ponzi is, its just an investment scheme on future promises that never materialize or by the time they materialize they are irrelevant, useless or worthless and you rely on passing the next buck down to the next user to keep it going. That's exactly what Eth is and has been since it started, what was their first statement when they got the KS money ? " The world will run on ethereum " . If that isn't a future promise I don't know what is. Eth's entire value is a story of future promises, if it was from production or usage it would be trading $1~ Ethereum is a fraud and a ponzi and there was no revolution. The so called revolution produced 99% fraud and non working projects and less than 1% of the projects even showed up, let alone produced anything useful. The scammers posting for sig campaigns or promoters telling you to buy like aleslaslo with the simple talk are devoid of facts and reality and only post to tell a lie from time to time. There is still 100% correction coming and I'm quite sure Vitalik is hoping for eth to hit single digits. It is ETH who bring the revolution in this ecosystem why so many people are interested in this tech because of this platform. I hope it will get improve in coming days than it will become more promising.
All words no substance. lol it doesn't even fit the definition for ponzi. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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December 01, 2018, 04:03:57 PM |
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I know I've been picking on you a lot for being so inaccurate and full of shit but I just have to ask, what would POS add to ethereum at this point ? You keep ignoring that traffic has been thoroughly analyzed and is absolutely dead. There would be no use for POS besides adding another negative in a coin that needs a 99% correction. we need clarity about the transition to PoS
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December 01, 2018, 06:31:57 PM |
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Ethereum can fall below 100 dollars, and frankly frightens me.I don't understand why investors give up the ethereum network.
I think most of the investors are still holding their ETHs because it would we really dumb to sell at this price. I suspect we are at this price because of some ICOs cashing out In addition to investors, many ICO projects still hold Coins and wait. If all the ICO are sold, it will crash. But there is still hope.
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December 01, 2018, 09:15:12 PM |
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In either way, I handed it over to some mods in case they hadn't seen it before. I really do visit a couple of spam accounts I've tagged RES regularly trying to force shady ICOs, but I haven't seen them gain grip. My hypothesis is that service probably requires money from people without doing much.
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December 01, 2018, 09:20:53 PM |
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I know I've been picking on you a lot for being so inaccurate and full of shit but I just have to ask, what would POS add to ethereum at this point ? You keep ignoring that traffic has been thoroughly analyzed and is absolutely dead. There would be no use for POS besides adding another negative in a coin that needs a 99% correction. we need clarity about the transition to PoS
Well, POW long terms makees no sense and it will be darwinized by POS or similar, so why wait until it'll be too late for the transition?
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December 01, 2018, 09:32:23 PM Last edit: December 08, 2018, 06:17:22 AM by alevlaslo |
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While there is no clarity, you need to wait for official news from Buterin, only he can clarify the situation. It remains only to wait. we need clarity about the transition to PoS
we cannot abandon mining, all fighting for hashrate, but we give it - is very foolish without mining the coin will cease to be a cryptocurrency, it will be possible to block any user without a hard fork https://twitter.com/Aleksan00743929/status/1068847905405054981
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December 01, 2018, 09:37:31 PM |
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We need PoS asap!!! I love Ethereum ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 01, 2018, 11:06:48 PM |
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This is a full raging bear market my friends. Don't stand on the way of this freight train. I would short ethereum if Iwere you. Eth is dead until further notice.
Mate, they will have big update in the beginning of net year. As I know they going to launch hard fork in January with some existed updates and improvements. And with Bakkt and Fidelity launch at almost same time ETH can grow till few thousands ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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December 01, 2018, 11:38:22 PM |
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I know I've been picking on you a lot for being so inaccurate and full of shit but I just have to ask, what would POS add to ethereum at this point ? You keep ignoring that traffic has been thoroughly analyzed and is absolutely dead. There would be no use for POS besides adding another negative in a coin that needs a 99% correction. we need clarity about the transition to PoS
False. You have any proof?
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December 02, 2018, 02:27:53 AM |
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This is a full raging bear market my friends. Don't stand on the way of this freight train. I would short ethereum if Iwere you. Eth is dead until further notice.
+1, finally a word of wisdom!!! Mate, they will have big update in the beginning of net year. As I know they going to launch hard fork in January with some existed updates and improvements.
Hello Vitalik. Oh, it's not Vitalik my wrong. And with Bakkt and Fidelity launch at almost same time ETH can grow till few thousands ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) As BTC crashes to the ground for the next two years, then and only then real institutional money will come into play. Maybe that's why ETH is taking it's time. See you in 2021. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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December 02, 2018, 05:41:16 AM |
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on the dropping of bitcoin ETH began to behave well, falls less, apparently $ 100-this is the bottom This is a full raging bear market my friends. Don't stand on the way of this freight train. I would short ethereum if Iwere you. Eth is dead until further notice.
Mate, they will have big update in the beginning of net year. As I know they going to launch hard fork in January with some existed updates and improvements. And with Bakkt and Fidelity launch at almost same time ETH can grow till few thousands ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) On 22 November they promised to communicate the block number for hard fork, but not reported
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December 02, 2018, 08:31:43 AM |
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and how to reset, it's not dollars that can be printed
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December 02, 2018, 08:45:55 AM |
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This is a full raging bear market my friends. Don't stand on the way of this freight train. I would short ethereum if Iwere you. Eth is dead until further notice.
Mate, they will have big update in the beginning of net year. As I know they going to launch hard fork in January with some existed updates and improvements. And with Bakkt and Fidelity launch at almost same time ETH can grow till few thousands ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Bakkt and Fidelity means the institutional traders will dump eth to $1 so they can buy cheap. It always makes me laugh when people with zero trading experience claim that this will bring prices up. What a joke!!! More exchanges (bakkt fidelity) means more liquidity = LOWER PRICES, NOT higher prices!!! The crypto community is so full of fools it's unbelievable! More liquidity doesn't mean higher or lower prices. All that higher liquidity does is it lowers the spread and maybe the commissions. I don't know if you ever traded penny stocks or low cap stocks. The spreads are crazy high on those stocks due to poor liquidity, and you basically need to buy at markets or sell at market if you want a fill soon since adding a bid/ask will take a long time to fill. If its a stock like AAPL with very high liquidity then you never have issues with fills. However I don't think this BAKT will make much difference since the futures listing exactly 1 year ago caused this huge bear market.
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December 02, 2018, 10:32:05 AM |
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As BTC crashes to the ground for the next two years, then and only then real institutional money will come into play. Maybe that's why ETH is taking it's time. See you in 2021. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) You really believe in this? BTC crashed already and this is incredible low price for BTC. At 4k usd per BTC miners already working in loss. So much low price not possible. And big investors started accumulate their bags already.
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December 02, 2018, 10:50:47 AM |
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As BTC crashes to the ground for the next two years, then and only then real institutional money will come into play. Maybe that's why ETH is taking it's time. See you in 2021. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) You really believe in this? BTC crashed already and this is incredible low price for BTC. At 4k usd per BTC miners already working in loss. So much low price not possible. And big investors started accumulate their bags already. In these days everyone is in try to show his skills to make panic weak hands. I am also agreed with this is the bottom for crypto and there is no more space to go more down from current level. I think this rally is about to start soon.
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December 02, 2018, 11:03:15 AM |
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You really believe in this? BTC crashed already and this is incredible low price for BTC. At 4k usd per BTC miners already working in loss. So much low price not possible. And big investors started accumulate their bags already.
Yes my friend, I really believe it, else I wouldn't have written it. And indeed, miners are working at a loss ATM, half of them turning their equipment off, and shorting everything for a brighter day. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The other half are either sleeping or have free energy. If I've accumulated something over the last few years, is that anything is possible. It's crypt-o-mage-don. Few will survive through this, only to make room for the true believers. Big investors are only preparing the ground, they are not here yet IMHO. They pretend to fill bags - driving the price down at the same time - and of course not hodling. BTW, I'm a true believer. In these days everyone is in try to show his skills to make panic weak hands. I am also agreed with this is the bottom for crypto and there is no more space to go more down from current level. I think this rally is about to start soon.
We will just have to wait and see mate - needless to say that the above is only my speculation ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 02, 2018, 11:04:58 AM |
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In these days everyone is in try to show his skills to make panic weak hands. I am also agreed with this is the bottom for crypto and there is no more space to go more down from current level. I think this rally is about to start soon.
Well things like that have been said for the last 5 dumps now, so that means nothing. Maybe a rally starts maybe we will see another crash.. who knows.
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December 02, 2018, 01:15:38 PM |
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Woah, package increase for 2019? waiting for that day. Interesting chart so that means that we'll having that impact for the market as a whole. That means ETH is 0.1 BTC. That is a good achievement.
1 eth = 0.1 btc is achievable but the value, let's see but I'm hoping for it. It seems everybody gonna rich by next year who are taking risk in current situation while it looking terrible at moment. There are so many prediction for next rally but I don't think 0.10 BTC will happen for each ETH it will remain around 0.08 BTC. Just endure this bear market and hold until you can. Can't wait for that time when I'm ready to harvest my eth profits though this year has been truly rought for everyone.
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December 02, 2018, 01:19:11 PM |
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As BTC crashes to the ground for the next two years, then and only then real institutional money will come into play. Maybe that's why ETH is taking it's time. See you in 2021. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) You really believe in this? BTC crashed already and this is incredible low price for BTC. At 4k usd per BTC miners already working in loss. So much low price not possible. And big investors started accumulate their bags already. in the Irkutsk region in Russia electricity costs 1 cent for the population and 3 cents for companies https://icerockmining.io/en.html
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December 02, 2018, 02:05:53 PM |
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Now the bulk of the projects, after the end of the ico, are trying to sell all their Eth, and this is the main factor that pulls the coin down. Ethereum can fall below 100 dollars, and frankly frightens me.I don't understand why investors give up the ethereum network.
I think most of the investors are still holding their ETHs because it would we really dumb to sell at this price. I suspect we are at this price because of some ICOs cashing out In addition to investors, many ICO projects still hold Coins and wait. If all the ICO are sold, it will crash. But there is still hope.
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