[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[Raja_MBZ]

Is there any estimation how long will be the upgrade delayed?

According to CoinDesk:

A new fork date will be decided during another ethereum dev call on Friday.

Fork = upgrade

[Teraboy]

Normally there's a fat drop after a fork. However, being a little optimistic has never hurt anybody.

There is still was not fork. They delayed again Constantinople fork, because of some mistakes in code and at this time form delayes for unknown time.
Bakkt also delayed tillthis summer probably . So may be Ethereum team just want to launch fork together with Bakkt launch, because 1st delayed was after Bakkt announced delay from December to january too...

You should read the post that created by a guy above me and it looks like you are missing something. The exact date about hardfork will have decided in the next meeting. ETA on friday. Bakkt has raised a lot of money and it gets another delay due to the shutdown in US
https://www.investinblockchain.com/bakkt-raises-182-5-million-launch-delayed-again/

I have seen this morning on my television if the white house serves junk food caused by that problem.

[nutoskaleo]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

[CryptoNeed]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

[CryptoNeed]

It's not a bad option.
But I don't think buying and holding ETH now is risky at any reason.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

Maybe ...
Maybe not buying now ends in regretting when you need some for a staking node.
Who knows?!

[Piston Honda]

mEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHH partaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy

[dishku]

It is good decision to delay this upgrade and fix the all bugs before make it implement on this network. Even this is little disappointed as everyone was ready to see what will happen after this upgrade anyway the tea will bring more better solution.

[Zontop]

It is not wise to put all eggs in one basket and will never be. That;s why diversification is best with balanced ration for short to long term perspective in mind. We are still in early stage of cryptocurrencies revolution so it is going through experiments constantly. They found out vulnerability in code and postponed nothing bad in this.

[CryptoNeed]

It is not wise to put all eggs in one basket and will never be. That;s why diversification is best with balanced ration for short to long term perspective in mind. We are still in early stage of cryptocurrencies revolution so it is going through experiments constantly. They found out vulnerability in code and postponed nothing bad in this.

THIS!

[Saverenergy]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

He means Ethereum wallet, not his crypto portfolio. But it is natural to store all the eggs in one basket is not worth it.

[CryptoNeed]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

He means Ethereum wallet, not his crypto portfolio. But it is natural to store all the eggs in one basket is not worth it.

No need to shill a useless project imho 

[vozphongtom]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

He means Ethereum wallet, not his crypto portfolio. But it is natural to store all the eggs in one basket is not worth it.

No need to shill a useless project imho 

the all market rising up and with green color , this today is good sign for bull market .

[Saverenergy]

I think it's too dangerous to keep all your crypto only in eth. I think better to use Cryptoindex.io Let's see.

Just buy and hodl different coins then ... 

He means Ethereum wallet, not his crypto portfolio. But it is natural to store all the eggs in one basket is not worth it.

No need to shill a useless project imho 

the all market rising up and with green color , this today is good sign for bull market .

Perhaps we are looking at different markets. I see only a protracted flat and red color positiy. 

[asche]

A chain split happened.

You should be careful and delay all ETH transaction

https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/01/17/ethereum-chain-splits-an-estimated-10-of-miners-stay-on-constantinople

[addicto]

A chain split happened.

You should be careful and delay all ETH transaction

https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/01/17/ethereum-chain-splits-an-estimated-10-of-miners-stay-on-constantinople

This would make the current situation more complicated while some miners are still putting hash powers on that chain. Thanks for sharing this useful info with us so that it would be nice to be careful before moving our tokens there.

[dncdog]

A chain split happened.

You should be careful and delay all ETH transaction

https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/01/17/ethereum-chain-splits-an-estimated-10-of-miners-stay-on-constantinople

Part of miners have not listened to the warning message from Ethereum team.
The upgrade to Constantinople has been delayed, mining on wrong chain will lead to losses both electricity costs and pseudo-mining rewards for stupid miners.
https://www.ccn.com/ethereum-postponed-its-hard-fork-but-some-miners-didnt-listen/

[tabas]

I agree calling the fork and replace it with the proper term of 'upgrade'. It's true to be an upgrade for eth's network and usually what crypto folk will think of with 'forking' is that it will create a new coin. But at this moment, it's more of an upgrade so I think it's plausible.

The term "fork" is most likely used to create more noise. And then all at the last moment to postpone (cancel). This is just my opinion, perhaps it is generally a test of the market, but the market almost did not respond.

I think they don't have intention to think about that, they just used a wrong term and people thought about it as something that will generate a new coin. And as for that, the scammers rode that hype and two of them were already busted. Yes, the market almost didn't respond about that and I think it's likely to see more of it in the future and it's good to see that they now consider using 'upgrade' instead of fork term.

[miningguru]

It is good decision to delay this upgrade and fix the all bugs before make it implement on this network. Even this is little disappointed as everyone was ready to see what will happen after this upgrade anyway the tea will bring more better solution.

Yes, it is a very good decision to delay the development because with a lot of bugs will make the hacker to find out the clues. So it is very good to release the product after the final conclusion and successfully testing the code.

[lobcmt2]

Yeah, over mis-using the term hard fork will create perfect chances for scammers, who will readily - of course - use the term for their shitty clone forked projects.
Before using the term hard fork, I think there are two main criteria should be taken into consideration:
1> Purposes of the event (I got those three ones below from the new-source there: https://cointelegraph.com/bitcoin-cash-for-beginners/what-is-hard-fork#terms-you-should-know)

Code:

1. To fix important security risks found in older versions
2. To add new functionality
3. To reverse transactions.

If the purpose is compromising open source code of others and use them to create new coins, it should be called as clone fork, not hard fork.
2> The separation of core team or communities or not (for projects that have full control of their core team, communities will not play a role in the criteria).

I think they don't have intention to think about that, they just used a wrong term and people thought about it as something that will generate a new coin. And as for that, the scammers rode that hype and two of them were already busted. Yes, the market almost didn't respond about that and I think it's likely to see more of it in the future and it's good to see that they now consider using 'upgrade' instead of fork term.

I don't think so.

Fork = upgrade

I totally agreed with you.

Code:

a breaking change in the protocol (an update)

and, it should be sticked with one supplementary criteria, a separation or un-consensus of core team or communities (for community-driven projects) on the update/ upgrade.

And it's really unfortunate people think that with the term fork. Because, before all these shit coins were created from minority communities and scams, people still understood fork to mean what it was: a breaking change in the protocol (an update).

Now the "crypto community" has been crazy diluted with weak-handed muggles who are just here following hype...and can't seem to distinguish an upgrade from a contentious hard fork.  

I created a topic for the discussion.
You all can join it there:
Upgrade or hard-fork? Is it time to stop over-misusing the term hard-fork?

[neocryptz07]

How is ethereum different from blockchain?