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November 02, 2018, 02:08:13 PM
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Latest info on acorns from discord



Lokar -=BoA=-Today at 5:38 PM
Latest update on acorns is currently going through final testing and things are looking good for monday ship.


that is monday the 5th of Nov
in which  year?
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November 02, 2018, 05:34:57 PM
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Yeah you will need more than x1 for the Acorns I'm pretty sure of that.  I find it hard to buy an Acorn, when a 470 8G MSI model is on sale on newegg at 95$ (seems to be new...but who knows). 

Do you happen to have a link.. i am guessing my search techniques are getting old.. the cheapest i can find currently is ~150 after a mail in rebate..
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November 03, 2018, 12:54:34 PM
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Latest info on acorns from discord



Lokar -=BoA=-Today at 5:38 PM
Latest update on acorns is currently going through final testing and things are looking good for monday ship.


that is monday the 5th of Nov
in which  year?

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November 05, 2018, 12:34:03 AM
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Posted ~10 minutes ago on the FPGA/#sqrl-products discord channel

Quote from: AcornHoarder aka GPUHoarder
Hi everyone! We wanted to let everyone know that Acorns and Nests will begin shipping this week! We want to get everyone up and running on their new hardware and mining away as soon as possible, so the initial released software won’t yet be the full SQRL Miner stack, and will include ETH, CNv7/8, and RVN support initially. This should let everyone get started mining, and we expect some big and continual updates over the coming weeks.

No mining at the moment.
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November 05, 2018, 04:21:03 PM
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My understanding is that the X2 and X4 nests serve the same basic function, i.e. hosting multiple Acorns on a single x8/x16 PCIe. So I don't understand why the X2 has USB connectors but the X4 doesn't. Wouldn't it be just as helpful to connect your X4 nest via 4x USBs as it would for the X2?
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November 05, 2018, 07:31:34 PM
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My info comes from lurking on discord. The reason the X2 has USB ports and the X4 does not is the expense of chip required to support 4 M.2 + 4 USB ports is too high. I read on discord it was like $100 for the chip alone that would be required. Thus the USB ports did not make it into the X4.
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November 05, 2018, 08:28:33 PM
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My info comes from lurking on discord. The reason the X2 has USB ports and the X4 does not is the expense of chip required to support 4 M.2 + 4 USB ports is too high. I read on discord it was like $100 for the chip alone that would be required. Thus the USB ports did not make it into the X4.

Thanks this is helpful. I would probably pay an extra $100 for the 4x USB ports on the X4, but oh well.

Anyone received a shipment notification/tracking info?
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November 06, 2018, 04:13:09 AM
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My understanding is that the X2 and X4 nests serve the same basic function, i.e. hosting multiple Acorns on a single x8/x16 PCIe. So I don't understand why the X2 has USB connectors but the X4 doesn't. Wouldn't it be just as helpful to connect your X4 nest via 4x USBs as it would for the X2?

They don’t serve the same function.

The 2 card works well with boards that don’t have lots of USB ports.


The four card is designed for boards that have lots of ports.


The 2 card is really good for threadripper boards which are short ports.

The four card is good for 1 full slot board with 13 ports.

I have a threadripper 1920 board it can do only five cards.

Add 1 two port jumps me to eight cards.
Add 2 two port jumps me to eleven cards.

And the four port does not help with this board.

I guess if you have a threadripper and the four card added lots of ports you may want it over the two port.
So I can see you complaint.

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November 06, 2018, 05:19:12 AM
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We're still waiting to hear a response to our inquiry to them. Over a week ago now.

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November 06, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
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My understanding is that the X2 and X4 nests serve the same basic function, i.e. hosting multiple Acorns on a single x8/x16 PCIe. So I don't understand why the X2 has USB connectors but the X4 doesn't. Wouldn't it be just as helpful to connect your X4 nest via 4x USBs as it would for the X2?

They don’t serve the same function.

The 2 card works well with boards that don’t have lots of USB ports.


The four card is designed for boards that have lots of ports.


The 2 card is really good for threadripper boards which are short ports.

The four card is good for 1 full slot board with 13 ports.

I have a threadripper 1920 board it can do only five cards.

Add 1 two port jumps me to eight cards.
Add 2 two port jumps me to eleven cards.

And the four port does not help with this board.

I guess if you have a threadripper and the four card added lots of ports you may want it over the two port.
So I can see you complaint.

This makes no sense to me. How is the number of USB ports on the mobo relevant? I thought this was all about pcie lanes and x8/x16 connections.
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November 06, 2018, 05:15:34 PM
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Hello there,

What is the Discord channel for this forum?

Thanks.
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November 06, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
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My info comes from lurking on discord. The reason the X2 has USB ports and the X4 does not is the expense of chip required to support 4 M.2 + 4 USB ports is too high. I read on discord it was like $100 for the chip alone that would be required. Thus the USB ports did not make it into the X4.

Thanks this is helpful. I would probably pay an extra $100 for the 4x USB ports on the X4, but oh well.

Anyone received a shipment notification/tracking info?

Why would you do that when you can just get one for 30 bucks?  Smiley  https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Superspeed-Ports-PCI-Expansion/dp/B00FPIMICA/ref=zg_bs_229185_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=T195ZQ898YCA5X65QFM1
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November 06, 2018, 05:45:19 PM
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My understanding is that the X2 and X4 nests serve the same basic function, i.e. hosting multiple Acorns on a single x8/x16 PCIe. So I don't understand why the X2 has USB connectors but the X4 doesn't. Wouldn't it be just as helpful to connect your X4 nest via 4x USBs as it would for the X2?

They don’t serve the same function.

The 2 card works well with boards that don’t have lots of USB ports.


The four card is designed for boards that have lots of ports.


The 2 card is really good for threadripper boards which are short ports.

The four card is good for 1 full slot board with 13 ports.

I have a threadripper 1920 board it can do only five cards.

Add 1 two port jumps me to eight cards.
Add 2 two port jumps me to eleven cards.

And the four port does not help with this board.

I guess if you have a threadripper and the four card added lots of ports you may want it over the two port.
So I can see you complaint.

This makes no sense to me. How is the number of USB ports on the mobo relevant? I thought this was all about pcie lanes and x8/x16 connections.

Yah I don't think it has anything to do with usb ports on the mobo.  As mentioned higher, I'm sure the reason is due to the increased cost of shoving 4 m.2 ports and 4 usb ports on the same card!
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November 06, 2018, 07:14:55 PM
Last edit: November 08, 2018, 01:58:29 PM by vapourminer
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The 2 card is really good for threadripper boards which are short ports.

The four card is good for 1 full slot board with 13 ports.

I have a threadripper 1920 board it can do only five cards.

Add 1 two port jumps me to eight cards.
Add 2 two port jumps me to eleven cards.

And the four port does not help with this board.

I guess if you have a threadripper and the four card added lots of ports you may want it over the two port.
So I can see you complaint.

This makes no sense to me. How is the number of USB ports on the mobo relevant? I thought this was all about pcie lanes and x8/x16 connections.

he is referring to USB risers and PCIe slots. USB risers just uses a USB cable for signal carrying.

the 2x nest (which has 2  4 USB connectors but they are really just a PCIe lane that uses a USB cable to be compliant with existing USB risers) is good for boards with a limited number of usable PCIe slots.. as you can add cards on USB risers.

the 4x nest is good for boards that already have a lot of usable PCIe slots. it communicates with the cards via the PCIe bus.

EDIT: nest x2g has 4, not 2 usb connectors
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November 06, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
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The 2 card is really good for threadripper boards which are short ports.

The four card is good for 1 full slot board with 13 ports.

I have a threadripper 1920 board it can do only five cards.

Add 1 two port jumps me to eight cards.
Add 2 two port jumps me to eleven cards.

And the four port does not help with this board.

I guess if you have a threadripper and the four card added lots of ports you may want it over the two port.
So I can see you complaint.

This makes no sense to me. How is the number of USB ports on the mobo relevant? I thought this was all about pcie lanes and x8/x16 connections.

he is referring to USB risers and PCIe slots. USB risers just uses a USB cable for signal carrying.

the 2x nest (which has 2 USB connectors but they are really just a PCIe lane that uses a USB cable to be compliant with existing USB risers) is good for boards with a limited number of usable PCIe slots.. as you can add cards on USB risers.

the 4x nest is good for boards that already have a lot of usable PCIe slots. it communicates with the cards via the PCIe bus.

TY this makes sense. It seems backward though. If I need to cram 4 acorns onto a single x16, chances are I don't have a lot of alternative ways to connect Acorns and thus would benefit by connecting gpus directly to the acorns instead of communicating through the PCIe bus (which may cause bandwidth bottlenecks).
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November 07, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
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Will these work with 2070/2080/2080Ti?
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November 07, 2018, 05:13:00 PM
Last edit: November 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM by vapourminer
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the 2x nest (which has 2 USB connectors but they are really just a PCIe lane that uses a USB cable to be compliant with existing USB risers) is good for boards with a limited number of usable PCIe slots.. as you can add cards on USB risers.

the 4x nest is good for boards that already have a lot of usable PCIe slots. it communicates with the cards via the PCIe bus.

TY this makes sense. It seems backward though. If I need to cram 4 acorns onto a single x16, chances are I don't have a lot of alternative ways to connect Acorns and thus would benefit by connecting gpus directly to the acorns instead of communicating through the PCIe bus (which may cause bandwidth bottlenecks).

yeah if youre short pcie slots a nest2x with usb gains you one 3 more card as it uses one pcie slot itself.

a nest4x with usb would be even better, as you would gain 3 cards.

so maybe a nest2x w/usb, nest4x w/usb, nest4x no usb would make a nice product lineup?

EDIT: corrected the number of cards a nest2x supports
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November 07, 2018, 08:08:05 PM
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i got a few biostar tb250 mobos.

most are running on 3 1080ti's.

what would be best. use the 16X pci express with a nest egg 2 or 4?

i don't intend to add more video cards as im running 1k watt psu's.

my cases and infrastructure does not permit more gpus per case cause i simple do not want more. would require redesigning my current situation. and i see no need to do that but i feel this tech is super awsome and want to integrate it into my current stuff.

now i know we all still waiting on info thats much awaited. but if it seems so good to be true. which would be preferred for my setup.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

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November 07, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
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i got a few biostar tb250 mobos.

most are running on 3 1080ti's.

what would be best. use the 16X pci express with a nest egg 2 or 4?

i don't intend to add more video cards as im running 1k watt psu's.

my cases and infrastructure does not permit more gpus per case cause i simple do not want more. would require redesigning my current situation. and i see no need to do that but i feel this tech is super awsome and want to integrate it into my current stuff.

now i know we all still waiting on info thats much awaited. but if it seems so good to be true. which would be preferred for my setup.

any help would be greatly appreciated.



My understanding is that, if you want to use the Acorns to boost your gpus, you should get the Nest X2 because of the limited pcie bandwidth available to the x1 gpus.
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November 07, 2018, 08:15:55 PM
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so nest egg 2 with 2 acorns 215+ right.

now do i need to use the usb ports on it?? is that the purpose. to not use the 1x risers and just plug right into the usb vs the 1x adapter?

or am i missing it. cause honestly this whole thing is very very very.......... something Smiley..

but as a serious buyer i need a lil guiding light if u can shine on how i would go about setting it up.
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