Everyone loses money when the market is down right?

[nano77]

I think, not everyone loses money when the market goes down even though many of them lose money because they panic, for people who have a good strategy and they still hold the coins they have then they will not lose their money and still have the opportunity to get profit when the coin price rises again

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[KesoNie]

I think, not everyone loses money when the market goes down even though many of them lose money because they panic, for people who have a good strategy and they still hold the coins they have then they will not lose their money and still have the opportunity to get profit when the coin price rises again

It's true that not everyone loses their money when the market is down because the fortune of your money is depend on your decisions and depend on how would you manage it wisely. The market is unpredictable but your decisions are predictable so you must be wise enough on every plan and decisions you made especially when the market is in fall.

[enogheghase123]

that isn't loosing money to me, that's an opportunity for new investors to enter the market, and existing investos to increase their portfolio base by way of buying more bitcoin. it is better to buy when the price is low, with an anticipation for a future rise in price.

[Mr.Brown[NMC]]

"Everyone loses money when the market is down right?"
Only believers, permabulls and people that do not know what hedging is.

They dont loose money as long as they are not selling their coin. Remember that as long as you have 1 BTC in your hand then it stays 1 BTC all the time.

This is a big mistake made very often by people that own cryptocurrencies. You don't lose money but you lose value. In december, when BTC was 20.000$ you could have bought a Ford Mondeo/Fusion with it but now with the same BTC you can barely buy a Smart. So, stop being lazy, learn TA and when you make a bad call be a man and accept it because you do not want to buy and hold in a bear market. Imagine buying BTC at 17k and still holding it (with altcoins is worse). Could you handle the pressure? Many will say that those who bought almost the TOP of each of BTC's bull markets (except the last one) made huge profits but how many of them were able the handle the pressure of a drawdown of at least 75% drawdown? Or how many of them were able to hold the coin when they were in profit for the first time after the bear market ended?

[henlity87]

Most of coin holders - yes, they do loose money when market falls but there are still a number of people who manage to earn profits in such conditions by daily trading.

The daily trade is not so easy for almost all the people who own coins. You need to be a well off person and have to have a weighted portfolio if you want to day trade. Majority of the people chose to hold their coins and simply stop trading when the market is down.

Moreover, a down market just means that the business activities are down and the portfolio is not gaining weight but the market ultimately reaches the phases of recovery and boom anyhow.

I think no one should sell their coins in bad market situations if there is no intense need for money or you cannot arrange money from some other sources. Selling coins without any need means losing your money by your own well. Your coins will eat nothing if you hold them for some time. the future is not so bad for bitcoin as it is today. Holding will be profitable.

[Ericgreen]

They dont loose money as long as they are not selling their coin. Remember that as long as you have 1 BTC in your hand then it stays 1 BTC all the time. If you start looking at it in terms of your local currency value then you are giving it foreign exchange rate and thus that is but obvious to go down and up in the value according to the volume of trade that is being put over it. Its better not to look at it in that way otherwise you will always see yourself in a loss.
Everyone looses dollar nomination of the bitcoin and not the real value. So if you are holding then you still got the same crypto currency and nothing else. When the market is down its more or less better opportunity to trade even more effectively as you can buy more in such situation.

Yeah you are right not selling your coins means no losing of money, but the problem is that many people are impatient or they need money for their financial problems. They are compulsive to sell their coins. To avoid this thing I always say that one should invest only extra money in cryptocurrency. Anything could be happen because it is cryptocurrency world.

[goodluck0319]

moments of crisis in the market are designed for those people who do not know exactly what they came to the market and what their goals are

[Rhego]

Majority of the people lose money and this is quite disheartening in this type of market. Not everyone loses money as their are people that place short trades in the market. These people make money with it in my opinion

[Getmon]

Not necessarily. If you consider the investors who are waiting for the down market to buy cheap coins, they are not losing anything at all. Instead, they are gaining. They are taking it as a perfect opportunity to gain more wealth. And then there are also those who were able to buy when the price was way cheaper a long time ago. And then, why lose when you are not selling them?

[mriansa]

I don't think it's true that some people will only experience loss and loss of assets they have if they sell assets that you have at a low price, but if you don't sell them then you can still have assets that you have and won't lose your assets.

[SirLancelot]

Most of coin holders - yes, they do loose money when market falls but there are still a number of people who manage to earn profits in such conditions by daily trading.

The daily trade is not so easy for almost all the people who own coins. You need to be a well off person and have to have a weighted portfolio if you want to day trade. Majority of the people chose to hold their coins and simply stop trading when the market is down.

Moreover, a down market just means that the business activities are down and the portfolio is not gaining weight but the market ultimately reaches the phases of recovery and boom anyhow.

right, so low market could be just an opportunity to purchase extra coins with a good discount

I understand the logic behind investing the money in the cryptocurrency when the market is down but investing the money is actually influenced by some qualities of the asset in question and when the values are down, they tend not to stay stable and rather unstable.

This instability in the market prices is something that is not desired by the investors. But since the crypto currencies like Bitcoin and ETH have a good history, they still invest in it hoping for the high future profits.

[ubercool]

Not exactly. We can do leverage trading and earn from falling market. Its not that easy and very risky in terms of losing all your money at once. So I would suggest not to do it. Try to hold until the price gets back up.

[Omega Weapon]

Not everyone losses money when the market is down.Those who are invest their money for short time or they much needed money may be they looser.But on the other hand whose who hold their bitcoin for next time when price will be high they will be gainer.

You can always short the market, that way you will earn a lot of money when the market is going down, but as you may guess doing something as that is very dangerous especially in a market like bitcoin where the price has a tendency to skyrocket, there have been cases of people that lost everything because they were shorting bitcoin at the wrong time.

[InvestICO2L]

but if that person can buy the coin at a very low price, he can still make a profit even if the market is down and this is only for people who can see this chance in a long time ago. not all people losses their money when the market is down and I am sure that there is any person that still makes the profit from the market and if you can do margin trading, you can make a short trade when the market is down so you can make a profit from the coin. but for doing margin trading, it needs high skill so you can detect where the price wants to go.

Yep, I kind off agree with you guy. Probably those who has taken advantage on market and bought some coin with a low price, he maybe have more likely to lose a little or they can get a good profit when the market is down. Everyone has their own strategy which can help them to manage and then reap a benefit in crutch time. If one has a wealth of knowledge, experience as well as skill, plus a little luck, he perhaps get some record in any fluctuation.

[Panchum]

So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.

Yes everyone loses money while down market especially like bounty hunters like me that only hoping for the payment to provide the needs of family.lts like l dont have chance anymore to live if the market is drop.

[GREATLOVE]

So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.

Everyone losses money when the market is down . yes this is the big problem of trader but you can buy if the price is down then wait for the price pump then sell it to make profit.

[letecia012]

Not all traders losses money when market is down. it would depend on your entry price how to earn or loss money. if you have patience to find a good entry price when market is down and sold it when it slightly rebound then you are not losing money your still earning profit.

[sinkfish]

So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.

in general, majority will loose. in bear time, looser will loose more, in bull time looser will loose lesser. winner always win.

[Bonsaiav]

If they were willing to be patient for a moment and wait until there was an increase, I guess they could completely avoid losing. However, the decline in prices that occur so long has made them unable to control their emotions and often make wrong decisions. They seem to be carried away by the flow of their own feelings that the price of bitcoin will fall even deeper.

[MRY]

I don't think so, not everyone is losing their money when the market goes down because everyone has their own way to survive and overcome current market conditions, because I see many who take this opportunity to get profit