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May 27, 2014, 04:19:30 AM
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Is the askken account doing the questions again for this week?

Questions are over.

What do you mean? They've already given up asking Ken questions for his report?

Everyone has given up. Ken no longer replies, I have no idea what he is up to.

He missed the Q&A last week and doesn't even have the decency to do a late Q&A. He's always too busy, busy doing what I wonder? What the hell has been going on for the past year?
Time to double up DTS? ^^
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May 27, 2014, 05:08:06 AM
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Time to double up DTS? ^^

Haha.

You know what's sad? I could double up with about 1% of my original invested amount.

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May 27, 2014, 07:48:45 AM
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The only reason ASKen didn't post this weeks list of questions for Ken is because none were received by the ASKen account.

ASKen is committed to continuing with the weekly Q&A but needs shareholder involvement.

It is expected that Ken will address last week's Q&A with this Wednesday's update.

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May 27, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
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Is the askken account doing the questions again for this week?

Questions are over.

What do you mean? They've already given up asking Ken questions for his report?

Everyone has given up. Ken no longer replies, I have no idea what he is up to.

He missed the Q&A last week and doesn't even have the decency to do a late Q&A. He's always too busy, busy doing what I wonder? What the hell has been going on for the past year?

At our DC working on increasing the hashrate on our Prospector and Gold Rush boards.  Sorry, for missing the update as I was traveling and did not have time to do it.  This customer might be us.  We also have alternate supplies of chips.  We also believe that we may be the only manufacture in a position to build boards with the alternate supply (Hashfast customers who have chips in hand, i.e Liquidbits) of chips.  I will be doing the final transfer of shares to CT just as soon as I can get set up.

Classic DTS.  Cheesy


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May 27, 2014, 04:24:49 PM
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products delivered.  no instructions, but i'll see what i can figure/find out.  will post more later

Working on creating instructions and video today.

I know that vince posted a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr281yTrCVY&feature=youtu.be) and also had/have problems with getting these boards to hash at the advertised 750gh/s.  I would like to know what compensation you will be providing for delivering a product under spec (13+% for vince, much higher for mine).
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May 27, 2014, 04:30:03 PM
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ken, i am still waiting for your sales manager to get back to me, but i think it's not relevant anymore as you are not interested in upping your sales i see
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May 27, 2014, 05:36:15 PM
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Everyone has given up. Ken no longer replies, I have no idea what he is up to.
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At our DC working on increasing the hashrate on our Prospector and Gold Rush boards.  Sorry, for missing the update as I was traveling and did not have time to do it.  This customer might be us.  We also have alternate supplies of chips.  We also believe that we may be the only manufacture in a position to build boards with the alternate supply (Hashfast customers who have chips in hand, i.e Liquidbits) of chips.  I will be doing the final transfer of shares to CT just as soon as I can get set up.

Classic DTS.  Cheesy

I think at the heart of DTS' comment is that actions are needed from Ken on the items listed below. Some of these things have needed action for months (I've been meaning to add an 'overdue' column).

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May 27, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
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Everyone has given up. Ken no longer replies, I have no idea what he is up to.
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At our DC working on increasing the hashrate on our Prospector and Gold Rush boards.  Sorry, for missing the update as I was traveling and did not have time to do it.  This customer might be us.  We also have alternate supplies of chips.  We also believe that we may be the only manufacture in a position to build boards with the alternate supply (Hashfast customers who have chips in hand, i.e Liquidbits) of chips.  I will be doing the final transfer of shares to CT just as soon as I can get set up.

Classic DTS.  Cheesy

I think at the heart of DTS' comment is that actions are needed from Ken on the items listed below. Some of these things have needed action for months (I've been meaning to add an 'overdue' column).

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I much prefer this style of critique to the "ZOMG CreativeX 2.0 - KEN TOOK DA MONIEZ N RAN GUIZ" bullshit. I completely agree that we have very important action items that need completed, but they have been addressed even if to our dissatisfaction. I'm all for continue applied pressure in the areas listed here, and I regularly PM Ken in regards to these issues.

If you aren't submitting these to AsKen I recommend you start to and not cease until we get action on these items.


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May 27, 2014, 05:49:35 PM
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ken, i am still waiting for your sales manager to get back to me, but i think it's not relevant anymore as you are not interested in upping your sales i see

Is the issue not being able to pay with BTC? I've seen this crop up a couple times on these boards with potential customers unable to get in touch with anyone at VMC.


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May 27, 2014, 05:54:28 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of any "answers from Ken" will bring you at this point… certainly not the profits that any of you originally invested to receive.
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May 27, 2014, 06:12:27 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of any "answers from Ken" will bring you at this point… certainly not the profits that any of you originally invested to receive.

You see, when a company makes bad choices its value decreases and when it makes good choices its value increases. We are asking Ken what is being done that we consider good choices. His answers are important as they indicate where we're headed, Good Choice Land or Bad Choice Land. VMC could be making good choices, but we won't know until Ken either tells us what his good choice strategy is or we see actions that lead us one direction or the other.

Welcome to Shareholder Discussion!


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Kleeck your words are wasted. It seems that many here have never experienced failure. Many here have cried and complained and begged to just have their shares so they can sell off and put this behind them, and then when given their shares, they still decided to continue on in this endeavor.

If one wishes to be a part of the Lawsuit. Then please join the lawsuit. (If you are a part of the lawsuit, you have little reason to come on here and scream at Ken, feel free to post here and talk facts, express concerns, etc.. though).

If one wishes to just sell their shares and put this company behind them, then please sell your shares and put this company behind you.

But it seems many wish to have their cake and eat it too.

"No I won't pay taxes on my Bitcoin." "You can't regulate Bitcoin!"

"Where are the cops for scumbags like Ken? Who scam(?) and steal our Bitcoins!"

This is all I see. It is very hypocritical.

We invested in a unregulated company, in an unregulated domain, with unregulated shares that have yet to (and probably won't) see any kind of profit and is run by someone who is very very very inexperienced in communication.

Everyone was happy that it was unregulated back when they expected profit in January, but now.. not so much.

I am truly sorry so many of you guys put so much of your money into this. But don't be a hypocrite about it. You know what this was when you bought in, and if you say otherwise then you were negligent and really only have yourself to blame.

Say what you want about the trolls but at least they don't flip flop on every up and down.

It's exhausting to see the kind of delusion some of you guys are working with. One person even accused Ken of actually stealing his coins. How do you do these mental cartwheels to arrive at this point in the first place?

EDIT: On the otherhand, if you have purchased hardware. Then you rightfully deserve a refund as soon as possible.
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May 27, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
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ken, i am still waiting for your sales manager to get back to me, but i think it's not relevant anymore as you are not interested in upping your sales i see

Is the issue not being able to pay with BTC? I've seen this crop up a couple times on these boards with potential customers unable to get in touch with anyone at VMC.

no, i have contacted ken some time ago with business proposition to re-sell VMC in europe and he seemed very interested but not anymore it seems. i wonder why..

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May 27, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of any "answers from Ken" will bring you at this point… certainly not the profits that any of you originally invested to receive.

You see, when a company makes bad choices its value decreases and when it makes good choices its value increases. We are asking Ken what is being done that we consider good choices. His answers are important as they indicate where we're headed, Good Choice Land or Bad Choice Land. VMC could be making good choices, but we won't know until Ken either tells us what his good choice strategy is or we see actions that lead us one direction or the other.

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in the real world this makes absolute sense.

unfortunately this is the make believe world of bitcoin investments… otherwise Bad Choice Land.
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May 27, 2014, 07:59:36 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of any "answers from Ken" will bring you at this point… certainly not the profits that any of you originally invested to receive.

You see, when a company makes bad choices its value decreases and when it makes good choices its value increases. We are asking Ken what is being done that we consider good choices. His answers are important as they indicate where we're headed, Good Choice Land or Bad Choice Land. VMC could be making good choices, but we won't know until Ken either tells us what his good choice strategy is or we see actions that lead us one direction or the other.

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Really kleeck? After what has been achieved in a 1 whole year, you still cant plot a heading? Consider me baffled.
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May 27, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of any "answers from Ken" will bring you at this point… certainly not the profits that any of you originally invested to receive.

You see, when a company makes bad choices its value decreases and when it makes good choices its value increases. We are asking Ken what is being done that we consider good choices. His answers are important as they indicate where we're headed, Good Choice Land or Bad Choice Land. VMC could be making good choices, but we won't know until Ken either tells us what his good choice strategy is or we see actions that lead us one direction or the other.

Welcome to Shareholder Discussion!
Really kleeck? After what has been achieved in a 1 whole year, you still cant plot a heading? Consider me baffled.

Hey, it ain't paradise, I'll give you that, but we have a product that is selling, albeit at a slower pace than expected, and a mining farm that is at least mining at a non-negligible hashrate. It isn't exactly what I had hoped for but it isn't "nothing". I'm willing to see what Ken can pull out of this HashFast scenario, as he has actually positioned himself fairly well in the mix.

Ken, Phase 2: EXECUTION.

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May 27, 2014, 10:20:40 PM
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we have a product that is selling, albeit at a slower pace than expected

Gold cards were 135 left a week ago and today 135 left. Yes that is slower than expected. It is so slow it is not making any revenue for this company atall. 
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May 28, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
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we have a product that is selling, albeit at a slower pace than expected

Gold cards were 135 left a week ago and today 135 left. Yes that is slower than expected. It is so slow it is not making any revenue for this company atall. 

The amount went from 135 up to 148 and 13 more sold after that bringing us back to 135.


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May 28, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
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Looking forward to an update about this mysterious thing that is more important than the website. =)
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May 28, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
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Looking forward to an update about this mysterious thing that is more important than the website. =)

He's already told us what he's been doing.

At our DC working on increasing the hashrate on our Prospector and Gold Rush boards.
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