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March 28, 2014, 10:45:04 AM |
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It is great to see everyone excited about the possibility of a BlackCoin Card. I will post updates here directly to the forum and keep everyone updated as this progresses. I will try and be as transparent as possible along the way.
I know you've said that a physical card would to start with be restricted to America/Canada, but if there's any scope to make this available in Europe, I'd be interested. |
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ski92
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March 28, 2014, 10:48:24 AM |
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BlackCoin Card Update
I know a few of you want to know: "who is this guy"? I am ....
i thought you're going to reveal who you are. LOL Anyhow, i hope you good luck with your talk to that woman. BC CC would really be nice to have  +1 I know i cant use it in europe, but i would purchase one aswell, just to show it to people lol. |
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March 28, 2014, 10:54:09 AM |
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BlackCoin Card Update
I know a few of you want to know: "who is this guy"? I am ....
i thought you're going to reveal who you are. LOL Anyhow, i hope you good luck with your talk to that woman. BC CC would really be nice to have +1 I know i cant use it in europe, but i would purchase one aswell, just to show it to people lol. Would like that too! |
NEM/XEM!!!
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germsite
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March 28, 2014, 10:56:05 AM |
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I think I prefer the Mark Zuckerberg approach of getting it out there quick and dirty and fixing bugs as we go. Every day without an update is a whole load of potential hashes wasted.
Everything depends upon context, and in this context, I couldn't disagree more. Facebook is a social networking platform which doesn't have the capacity to wreck individual users investments. If it breaks a bit, no problem. If you release a slightly buggy financial instrument, people might be willing to accept its not-quite-working status for a little while, but eventually, users could be left with the impression that the system is being develloped by a bunch of kids with no real regard for its users financial status, and as a consequence, give up on it and never return. My own opinion is that, given the very early stage of this coin's development, waiting for a well executed, polished, effective tool to be released is the way to go. I think many of us forget that there are still very few people who are aware of the existance of coins such as this. Apple don't release slightly iffy versions of their products ( well, maybe they do, I don't use them, but this is my impression ) ... they release great looking product that just works, and people love it. If BC can keep calm for a bit, be patient, release the killer tool when it is ready, the market will set itself around around it. |
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March 28, 2014, 10:58:22 AM |
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This is good stuff and fair enough. I've developed websites for close to 15 years, I guess my frustration is that on the actual website, although there is info in the header, in my experience, people will see the misleading information (BC address has not been used yet) in the My Miners page and think it's broken. People don't read large chunks of header text. I've certainly seen enough repetition in the IRC room of people asking about it to confirm that. It wouldn't have taken much to just change the text on that page a little bit while they ramp things up. I understand they need time for development and won't be focussing on PR. Witnessing the IRC room though, if half of the time they spend responding on there was spent saying the same thing somewhere 'permanent' (here, twitter, the official website or whatever), more people will get the message when looking for instant information. IRC is nerdy, as others have said, full of chatter and sometimes intentionally misleading information in the name of being 'funny', it's not a wholly convincingly grownup environment. That said, I appreciate the update. It's all onwards and upwards either way. |
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March 28, 2014, 10:59:41 AM |
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I think I prefer the Mark Zuckerberg approach of getting it out there quick and dirty and fixing bugs as we go. Every day without an update is a whole load of potential hashes wasted.
Everything depends upon context, and in this context, I couldn't disagree more. Facebook is a social networking platform which doesn't have the capacity to wreck individual users investments. If it breaks a bit, no problem. If you release a slightly buggy financial instrument, people might be willing to accept its not-quite-working status for a little while, but eventually, users could be left with the impression that the system is being develloped by a bunch of kids with no real regard for its users financial status, and as a consequence, give up on it and never return. My own opinion is that, given the very early stage of this coin's development, waiting for a well executed, polished, effective tool to be released is the way to go. I think many of us forget that there are still very few people who are aware of the existance of coins such as this. Apple don't release slightly iffy versions of their products ( well, maybe they do, I don't use them, but this is my impression ) ... they release great looking product that just works, and people love it. If BC can keep calm for a bit, be patient, release the killer tool when it is ready, the market will set itself around around it. I don't disagree with this view. I think the balance here is speed to level of shinyness. The cryptoworld moves too quick and is too fickle to wait around sometimes. |
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March 28, 2014, 11:01:18 AM |
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I think I prefer the Mark Zuckerberg approach of getting it out there quick and dirty and fixing bugs as we go. Every day without an update is a whole load of potential hashes wasted.
Everything depends upon context, and in this context, I couldn't disagree more. Facebook is a social networking platform which doesn't have the capacity to wreck individual users investments. If it breaks a bit, no problem. If you release a slightly buggy financial instrument, people might be willing to accept its not-quite-working status for a little while, but eventually, users could be left with the impression that the system is being develloped by a bunch of kids with no real regard for its users financial status, and as a consequence, give up on it and never return. My own opinion is that, given the very early stage of this coin's development, waiting for a well executed, polished, effective tool to be released is the way to go. I think many of us forget that there are still very few people who are aware of the existance of coins such as this. Apple don't release slightly iffy versions of their products ( well, maybe they do, I don't use them, but this is my impression ) ... they release great looking product that just works, and people love it. If BC can keep calm for a bit, be patient, release the killer tool when it is ready, the market will set itself around around it.
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March 28, 2014, 11:01:23 AM |
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I think I prefer the Mark Zuckerberg approach of getting it out there quick and dirty and fixing bugs as we go. Every day without an update is a whole load of potential hashes wasted.
Everything depends upon context, and in this context, I couldn't disagree more. Facebook is a social networking platform which doesn't have the capacity to wreck individual users investments. If it breaks a bit, no problem. If you release a slightly buggy financial instrument, people might be willing to accept its not-quite-working status for a little while, but eventually, users could be left with the impression that the system is being develloped by a bunch of kids with no real regard for its users financial status, and as a consequence, give up on it and never return. My own opinion is that, given the very early stage of this coin's development, waiting for a well executed, polished, effective tool to be released is the way to go. I think many of us forget that there are still very few people who are aware of the existance of coins such as this. Apple don't release slightly iffy versions of their products ( well, maybe they do, I don't use them, but this is my impression ) ... they release great looking product that just works, and people love it. If BC can keep calm for a bit, be patient, release the killer tool when it is ready, the market will set itself around around it. +100 A buggy multipool is more negative PR I think. Okey, more PR is never wrong here in Crypto-world. Its all too fast paced now, that's the main problem. |
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March 28, 2014, 11:05:38 AM |
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Newbie question.
Just trying to learn/understand how prices rise/fall.
I was just looking at different coins on MintPal. How does a coin's value start? Is it dependent on how much is mined before it hits an exchange? How many in total there are/will be?
Like I see blackcoin at about 6k sats with volume of 715 btc (and I know for a while it was 2-3 times that). It's only 1 month old.
Then I see something like darkcoin, whose value is at 14k sats but only a volume of 8 btc and is around 2 months old.
So just by looking at that, it's weird to me how the value of darkcoin can be double that of blackcoin with only 8 btc being traded (granted I'm only looking at MintPal). I wasn't around for the beginning of either of these coins, so am not sure how this became where we are today.
I'm also curious and confused as to if/how volume affects price. Same with total number of coins. I've read having too few coins can be bad for distribution, but too many means a slow rise and a need for more people to adopt to be worth more (like doge?).
Anyway I'm guessing there isn't a simple answer but even just a general outline would be helpful in me grasping generally how this works.
The free market decides everything. Essentially, sellers set a price which they think is a fair price while buyers do the same. Eventually, a baseline price is determined when either one of the two yields to the other or they find a middle price. |
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March 28, 2014, 11:17:33 AM |
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Multipool is giving me 56BC per day with 1.2mh. Not impressed tbh. I can get more than that from anything else and just buy BC manually. Why is the multipool payouts so low?
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March 28, 2014, 11:23:36 AM |
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Multipool is giving me 56BC per day with 1.2mh. Not impressed tbh. I can get more than that from anything else and just buy BC manually. Why is the multipool payouts so low?
It's still BETA. 80% of all questions in this topic is about the Multipool, why the pay-out is so low. Spread the name "Blackcoin"into the world. Blackcoin's facebook page have only 179 likes. Like it...share it. It's a small start. |
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March 28, 2014, 11:38:24 AM |
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Multipool is giving me 56BC per day with 1.2mh. Not impressed tbh. I can get more than that from anything else and just buy BC manually. Why is the multipool payouts so low?
When I was using middlecoin as a btc multipool, there were huge variations with the payouts : it depends on so much things : the coin mined, the change rate, the moment you choose to change the coin, the strategy of the multipool : change small amounts continously, waiting for good opportunities. You can't juge a multipool on a day or two : you need a longer period of time. You should check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514242.0 : you can see there the huge variation on existing multipool profitability... |
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March 28, 2014, 11:50:17 AM
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BlackCoin Card Update
I know a few of you want to know: "who is this guy"? I am ....
i thought you're going to reveal who you are. LOL Anyhow, i hope you good luck with your talk to that woman. BC CC would really be nice to have +1 I know i cant use it in europe, but i would purchase one aswell, just to show it to people lol. From what I understand it can be used anywhere in the world like any other Visa/Mastercard. However, to my understanding the person receiving the card must be located in the United States/Canada. The hurdle is just getting one bank on board. Once it is up and running, it would be much easier to get a bank overseas to provide a card for European and Asian customers. But as we all know you must crawl before you walk. |
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March 28, 2014, 11:58:19 AM |
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Multipool is giving me 56BC per day with 1.2mh. Not impressed tbh. I can get more than that from anything else and just buy BC manually. Why is the multipool payouts so low?
There was several restarts on the beta pool, I've seen that I mined over the day on my failover too, so that might explain that too. I recommend using a failover pool too. You should have that everywhere, not only on this pool. |
NEM/XEM!!!
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March 28, 2014, 12:04:37 PM |
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I come from China  know this coin fome btc38.com i like this coins，it is very interesting. i want to buy some！ |
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March 28, 2014, 12:21:30 PM |
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I come from China know this coin fome btc38.com i like this coins，it is very interesting. i want to buy some！ Finally got to see a fellow Can talk with each other I also bought some |
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March 28, 2014, 12:23:56 PM |
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PUMP in progress... |
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March 28, 2014, 12:25:42 PM |
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PUMP in progress... Don't be redicoluos..What pump? |
Donate : 5ZKehxGh1CaY3dD9ot1y7j28B99oStxZhb
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