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[judgecrypto]

@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea

I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way.  He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great.  In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign.  If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them.  Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...

Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!

Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.

My website is www.judgeneil.com.  I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...

I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!

[alison03]

I gotta agree, I think Iconic should go forward with his plan. Continue raising funds - people who want to pursue it will donate. Say worst case scenario, even if it's a blip on the radar, in marketing campaigns, we need lots of these little blips to get the word out so I don't think it would be a wasted effort no matter what. Obviously we should all keep discussing to make it the best we can with all of our collective heads put together, but I am just saying at its worst, it's better than not doing anything. Remember in marketing, the Rule of 7, where something needs to be repeated to your target market 7 times before they take action.

I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.

[judgecrypto]

I gotta agree, I think Iconic should go forward with his plan. Continue raising funds - people who want to pursue it will donate. Say worst case scenario, even if it's a blip on the radar, in marketing campaigns, we need lots of these little blips to get the word out so I don't think it would be a wasted effort no matter what. Obviously we should all keep discussing to make it the best we can with all of our collective heads put together, but I am just saying at its worst, it's better than not doing anything. Remember in marketing, the Rule of 7, where something needs to be repeated to your target market 7 times before they take action.

I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.

I totally agree with you Alison03.  Jesse had some great ideas too and sounds like he has some experience in that arena.  He should run with his ideas!  I would support those too!

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

[CryptoSteam]

@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea

I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way.  He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great.  In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign.  If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them.  Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...

Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!

Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.

My website is www.judgeneil.com.  I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...

I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!

Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.

[XbladeX]

Warning regarding Iconic's misguided "Wall Street" plan:
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
 
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.

JL

There's some truth ...

Now that is something I will donate towards

Why not get both of them up and running?  Diversify our endeavors!

Jesse you make some excellent points and I really hope the dev team considers them. I'd be in the camp of trying both activities.

Guys have you forgot that BC is POS coin and to grow need new investors
to attract them comercial/events are essential are very crucial.
There is many coins around all are focused at "tech" path of coin and security
while PR and advertising is very Important.
Event is for creating media buzz about Blackcoin you wont attack them because we
will focus only on "tech" aspects of projects.
Why in real life commercials are so important ?
How many genius  product were forgotten because of fucked up marketing or because there wasn't any marketing at all.
When we make media buzz we attract attention, that means possibility of getting new investors
and getting new devs on bord to because we will be able to back up bigger projects like that.
Nevver udermatinates PR and marketing now when we have 250+ coins on market this is CRUSIAL
don't even try thinking that is not important...Becouse you will land like Annoncoin, Memorycoin or Heavycoin
They made something new but who cares...
Ironic actions are important but important will be allso  development part too.
Eg your BC is wirth now 0.1 after Ironic campagain is worth 0.4....
Now from your BC stash you can donate 25% on development and you are still on + with intrest.
Don't try fool otheres that agresive PR is not so important becouse we are on maret where is 250+ coins...

You don't understand why good PR and marketing is crucial try watch eg. Jobs movie.
Marketing is key connected with good development.

[judgecrypto]

@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea

I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way.  He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great.  In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign.  If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them.  Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...

Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!

Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.

My website is www.judgeneil.com.  I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...

I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!

Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.

Look... my website may have one too many adds... I have to fix that.  But to suggest that I am him or he controls my site in the face of overwhelming evidence is insane.  Just admit you are wrong in that my post is from him and we can argue about something else ;p

[bitcoin carpenter]

@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea

I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way.  He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great.  In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign.  If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them.  Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...

Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!

Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.

My website is www.judgeneil.com.  I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...

I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!

Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.

Look... my website may have one too many adds... I have to fix that.  But to suggest that I am him or he controls my site in the face of overwhelming evidence is insane.  Just admit you are wrong in that my post is from him and we can argue about something else ;p

Relax no one really thinks that.

And bow all these heads working together is incredibly bullish for black.
Keep it up

[CryptoSteam]

Oh okay. I'll let the community figure it out.

[KingSchultz]

I think there is some misconception about the goal of Iconic's event... it is a marketing event and new user campaign. It is not aimed at Wall St investors. His goal is to create an event that will make mainstream/web media and associate Blackcoin with THE NAME 'Wall St'. The goal is not to send girls to Wall St suits and hope they invest millions... Yeah, the idea sounds fucking stupid if you look at it that way.

I could be wrong about this as I'm not from New York, but isn't Wall St a really touristy area, especially in May?
 
The event could take place in Times Square, but the following media would not make the powerful association with Wall St. To the average person, 'Wall St' signifies wealth and power. If the event is successful and mainstream media picks it up, that is an excellent association to make for the people that it will reach.

a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!

[Shizof]

BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street

This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.

I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!

So what is the big idea?

We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.

Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.

1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.

2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.

3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.

4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished,  everything is in place for the main event.

What will the main event accomplish?

This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.

a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!

b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.

c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.

What is needed to make this a success?

Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc

Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.


Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.

Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!

This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the  "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.

To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and  I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.


Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.


Donation addresses:

BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT




We have raised approximately $2731
We have at least $6809 more to go.

Here is an article written a few hours after announcing the event! http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive

People!!! Would you try to actually read this? Same stupid comments and questions about something crypto-world have never seen before.

As always, idiots are trying to bash good ideas without actually reading it.

If you cannot do something yourself instead of just bashing other people's ideas, donate!

If you don't have anything to donate or cannot produce and implement ideas, just shut the hell up!

[ontopicplease]

BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street

This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.

I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!

So what is the big idea?

We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.

Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.

1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.

2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.

3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.

4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished,  everything is in place for the main event.

What will the main event accomplish?

This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.

a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!

b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.

c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.

What is needed to make this a success?

Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc

Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.


Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.

Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!

This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the  "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.

To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and  I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.


Below is the donation address (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.


BC Contribution Address: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP

As suggested I have added other coin addresses:

BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT

500 BC send. Good Luck with the project Iconic.

[DanielVG]

So i made this blackcoin pr document:

Download and use it at free will. 
pfd file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5el7y6 (front & back)

jpeg front example:

[ManMachine]

+1
good work! 

[colinfx]

Hi guys,

first of all, im not trying to spread fud here. I love blackcoin and im one of the top 10 holders. Not planning to leave anytime soon.

I feel like sending some BC to Iconicexpert. However, for some reason I find it still difficult to send a random person my cash. Im not saying Iconicexpert is a bad person, but I think its reasonable to stay alert in this cryptoworld.

I know he has been arranging more stuff and is known as a good person for Blackcoin, creating the Blackcoincard for an example (goodjob on that btw). On the other hand I haven't really seen anything yet besides some crazy shouting on this forum and some blackcoincard pictures. Anyone could buy those printed cards at a local store for 50 bucks making an attempt to increase the Blackcoin hype/pump the price and dump his bag.


Again, im not trying to spread fud here and I truely respect the work being done by this community, including Iconicexpert. Im just trying to see this from a neutral point of few.

In my life I have seen lots of "media/attentionwhoring pump/dump" hypes before. And I cant tell yet if this is another one of those hypes to increase the price.

As being as honest as possible here. The guy is asking strangers for 10.000 $, and even more. This is really alot of money, and I would hate to see if my few hundred dollar donation go to a guy that's just spreading "fake" news in order to gain some attention to the market or filling his own pockets.

Iconicexpert, it would be cool if you could show the software your currently creating for the card

I'm @CryptoDabbler from Twitter, I know pretty much all of the top 10 holders - can you PM me and tell me which one you are? We need to get you involved in some of the higher level funded projects.

[coinism]

@jesse  + 1 for the ETF idea. it's a long road though, but starting the process would be a wise thing to do. We would need a big BC fund first.

[IconicExpert]

Warning regarding Iconic's misguided "Wall Street" plan:
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
 
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.

JL

Thank you for comments. Please read the previous responses and comments before commenting, it makes things a lot easier when responding.

The dev team has been focusing on partnerships...etc..etc, and as a community we also have to focus on publicity. The problem is we focus way too much on pools and partnerships. We can have all the pools and partnerships in the world, but if we do not let the rest of the world know BlackCoin exists it doesn't matter. Maybe 100,000 people or less in the world know about BlackCoin, so in the eyes of the world BlackCoin doesn't exist. There are more people that work on Wall Street than people who know about BlackCoin. The purpose of the promotion is to create buzz and bring outside attention to BlackCoin. With all do respect please stick to facts and do not make assumptions. Unless you are psychic or a fortune teller you have no clue what effect this promotion will have on the price, nor do you know if the dev team announced they are hiring a securities law firm it would have a positive effect on the price. Also, your idea is counter intuitive to the spirit of crypto. The point of crypto is to avoid large financial institutions and your plan is to get in bed with them. You do realize before a securities firm were to even consider taking on BlackCoin as a client BlackCoin would have to be a registered Corporation first? If BlackCoin ever became a corporation it will die because it is a community project that existence depends on a community. Please do your homework....

[dragonmike]

Warning regarding Iconic's misguided "Wall Street" plan:
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
 
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.

JL

Jesse,
you are right in stating that the financial industry is getting more "boring" by the minute. And if you think you've been hit hard by regulators in the US, come over to the EU and see how we've been smacked down by ours...

While what you wrote above makes a lot of sense (legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, BC mutual funds, ETFs etc...), I have been in the industry around long enough to know this will not sell a single coin... unless you make people want to buy it.

How many times, have structurers come out with the best of the bestest ideas for products - I won't tell you which firm I work for but a couple of years ago, there was a huge internal push to sell that new product... it was a CTA ETF if that matters - only to sell absolutely zilch. Nothing. Nada. A global investment bank goes all out and manages to get... less than $1 million.

You know, I'm a salestrader in structured products. I've had my fair share of product launches, successes, failures... All I can say is this:

1) no awareness of the product = no product gets sold
2) The Wolf Of Wall Street still lives among traders... they are the first ones to be sorry about the current state
3) Retail and Institutional clients aren't the same. One does not prevent the other from thriving. You can push on both fronts independently

Iconic's Wall Street initiative is potentially very good: it creates interest in retail investor space and amuses institutionals. In either case it's publicity. And any publicity is good publicity.

[IconicExpert]

Getting a bunch of bimbos running around Wall Street serious investors aren't going to bode well. Good luck with this endeavor.

Keep feeding Iconic's ego and greed.

I'm out.

Honestly your constant bashing and personal attacks are just sickening. I have no problem debating the merits of the promotion, but you are more focused on me and my ego.

“Great people have great egos; maybe that's what makes them great.”
― Paul Arden

[IconicExpert]

I honestly think that I like the passion, determination that iconic brings to his projects. I do however believe that ideas have to be well thought through before asking for donations from the community.  There has been way to much over promising in the past and some community members have felt misguided. I believe Iconic should be talking to the developer team and community about his ideas and get a feel for them from the community before we send donations out. We have to be more targeted and be wise on how we spend our BC.

The points that have been brought forward in this post have allot of valid points. Guys in wall street walking to work or lunch can care less about a crypto promotion.  Not even bitcoin has made it in full yet. If to legitimize Blackcoin for the investment industry is our route we need to be serious about this project and funds should be routed through the dev team for proper implementation. Iconic should continue to bring Ideas in to the community but this type of gimmick that can potential cost in excess of $10,000 USd for a few hours can buy us way more in massive PR. Let's Stop the madness with asking for Donations  without the approval from the Development team or Community Manager, it makes us look desperate and brings confusion

Thank you for your comments. You incorrectly assumed I didn't run this by the dev team, and your assumptions are wrong. This has been worked on for a few weeks before I presented it to the community. Also, BlackCoin is a community project, and it lives or dies based on community participation. With all do respect to the devs I do not need their permission to rally the community and organize a promotion. Most of the community see value in the promotion.