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August 09, 2018, 12:09:05 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
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August 09, 2018, 12:10:39 AM
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4,000,000 Bitcoins which were purchased before 2011 for $100 or $200, will be sold.
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August 09, 2018, 12:14:56 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

First off, people are always trading bitcoin no matter what the investors decide to do. Transaction volume will always be high, as will liquidity, as traders continue to transact based on fundamental and technical analysis. It is irrelevant what HODLers do as they are always a minority.
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August 09, 2018, 12:17:15 AM
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You are on point i understand where you want to point at, atleast there will not be red market always, surely there will be green market toobut to me i will not see any reason the sell my bitcoin lower than what i bought it and that will be a loss on  my investment. Sincerely am not sure you will run a business at a lost.

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August 09, 2018, 04:25:25 AM
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in any  market price is decided based on how many are selling (supply) and how many are buying (demand). if you hold it will not change these two that much. of course if you are holding and not selling it will reduce the sell pressure but it won't stop the drop if a drop is to happen. the thing that can stop the drop is when you buy.
and also just like the drop the rise will also happen with or without HODL campaigns.

and these things will happen naturally whether people on the internet shout HODL or DUMP or anything else. these are just social media drama in my experience and confuses the newbies only.

in any case what i always tell people, specially newcomers is that you shouldn't sell AFTER the drop happened. if you want to sell either sell on top or sell when drop is just starting. if you woke up and saw  the drop already happened and price is a lot lower then it is already too late for you to sell. that is when HODL comes in because there is no point in selling when you are already too late.

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August 09, 2018, 04:30:15 AM
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on the contrary, HODL has the potential to make BTC prices rise due to limited distribution on the market, coupled with increasing demand will make BTC prices really rise
HODL is usually done if someone wants to be more patient to sell their coins, as much as possible, we must avoid cutloss

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August 09, 2018, 06:05:38 AM
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no, the real solution is finding why price fell in first place and if it was not a logical reason then try and fix it by for instance educating the newbie weak hands who have been panic selling during that drop.
for example the drop from $20k down was logical and there is nothing you can do about it. that should have happened but the recent drop below $7k was not logical. it was purely the result of manipulation and panic sell of newbies who are too caught up in the ETF bullshit and are now blinded about what bitcoin truly is supposed to be.

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August 09, 2018, 06:17:21 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

I must agree that holding is one of the best solution for now  while the crypto market continuously dropping because if we force to sell it today while the market value is too low, we might be losing too much of our capital so i suggest to be patiently waiting until the market recover.
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August 09, 2018, 06:20:06 AM
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Hodl is for those who do not have the time or skill to trade, whales who can play the markets can manipulate the prices and increase their gains. In this bear market it is sad but all we can do is hodl and cash in when necessary

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August 09, 2018, 06:22:49 AM
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well HODL is not just a word, it is an art Wink

it is not about that everyone should HODL but those newbies who have no idea how to  trade should HODL because not doing so means losing a lot of money. and most of the memes you see on the internet is focusing on this particular group of people. because not HODLing during these small ups and downs in a sideways market means losing money for them and it has happened so many times already. and they are increasing the volatility!

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August 09, 2018, 06:35:27 AM
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Its called FUD and is aimed at weak hands and newbies who continue to sell
even when the prices have fallen. The best form of action after the price
movement downwards is to hold.

Its the Fear, the Uncertainty and the Doubt which these weak hands and newbies
cannot seem to shake.

Holding is essential at certain times, key times.

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August 09, 2018, 07:09:54 AM
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In my opinion, the rate can be increased by holding, all your sellers try to increase the rate of sale, but the market is in its own way
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August 09, 2018, 01:44:24 PM
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They are just people ideas and to me they seem theoritical but ideally on practical basis on market exchange, most people don't hodl but engage in trade.I will personally hold when price won't fetch ne any profit.
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August 09, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
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HODL for all bitcoin holders. Certainly rare bitcoin and also the value of the price of bitcoin itself will definitely rise. HODL itself for people who play long term.
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August 09, 2018, 01:50:24 PM
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No matter how we keep advicing people to hodl, some newbie will still sell their coin, but what is the essence of selling when u are selling below the amount you bought
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August 09, 2018, 02:51:17 PM
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Hodl is not the solution but atleast don't try to do panic selling with huge amount of coins that you already have. This will totally hurt the market. The main reason why we encounter this kinds of bearish market is because of huge emotional investors coming into crypto market and panic sells when they see that there's a huge dip happening. If only those hodlers won't do panic selling at once then we won't experience this red train.

Those emotional investors are just in here to profit without understanding that bitcoins value is volatile and fluctuations happening every now and then is just normal since crypto market is still so young and unstable. As what some experts said when it comes to trading, only the weaker hands will lose during bearish times.
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August 09, 2018, 05:10:02 PM
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It truly doesn't matter if you just keep on holding. It will be a loss just for you since you will be the one missing on the opportunities to gain profit from the short gains. The market won't go down if the you keep on holding because if everybody is holding then there are no sell orders and this will increase the price of BTC rather than draining it since people will be willing to offer a greater price to buy it. Just the basic demand and supply rule will get you a clear picture of what I am trying to say.

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September 16, 2018, 09:23:22 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Sometimes holding is the best option to do because it reduce the chance you loss money. Holders want to earn huge profit so they choose to hold than to sell their bitcoin. I think its be bad for you to force yourself to sell because you think you may lose something in the end.

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September 16, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
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if the price drops too sharp then the best option is to hold back for some time because I see the market will recover after that. if you sell right away then the loss will be great, whales and certain communities want us to panic sales
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September 16, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
I think yes because most of us complaining about the small profit we get and regret everything because we sell our bitcoins. We have different methods on managing our own bitcoin but for me holding is one of the best thing do especially now.

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September 16, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

I must assume the decrease in price can not be solved by just hodling our coins or it doesn't have anything to do with our coins. Because hodling our coins is just hodling our coins and waiting for it to increase its price in order for us to get some profit.

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September 16, 2018, 10:26:08 AM
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I think currently holding is the best decision. Because the market continues to fall, if we panic to sell then we will lose and surely prices will go down again because there will be more sales than demand. I think it's better to hold on longer and be patient waiting for market prices to rise again.
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September 16, 2018, 10:28:35 AM
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No never! The truly situation for bitcoin is "forget". If you are new in the market and going to invest, do it and forget. So your invesment need to be not all your savings, would be just part of it. Today no one can say anything certain about cryptocurrency, so spread your risk and never put your all money in..
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September 16, 2018, 10:31:46 AM
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Its really not the solution to anything and it will depend if a considerable amount of BTC is not made available for trading. What I mean about that is it will depend if they just really hold it without the intention of selling it in the near price points. Cutting out a considerable amount of supply out of the market is really something you can do in order to push the price up but as of right now the market is not showing that someone or some group is holding back there shares of BTC as the trading volume is always inconsistent.
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September 16, 2018, 10:32:46 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

What does holding has to do with this bearish trend?  The crash is due to people who fomo and then get out when the market doesn't go as they wanted it to be. Those noobs thinking that this is a quick rich scheme, buying bitcoin at its peak and then exited early.

This trend continue up to May. What's left are bots and day traders cashing out the moment they got a good ROI. And there's the continue manipulation of whales and then fuds and fake news as well contributing to the epic price fall.

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September 16, 2018, 10:33:19 AM
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iam also holding my coins since 4 years now  Huh
i don't think this is a problem for the current prize .in the opposite i think its good for the prize Wink
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September 16, 2018, 11:34:27 AM
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In my views, people that are into btc are categorize as investors, traders, miners and bounty hunters. Most of the investors are more into hodl as there strategy on not losing on their investment. Other people that do trading are more particular to their profit even if only they earn less for as long as they earn. However, we really do not know the percentage as to how many people are into hodling and those who are in trading which has something to contribute in the btc dip.

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September 16, 2018, 11:44:00 AM
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it is true that there are so many directives that aim to restrain the bitcoin we have, because we know that prices are currently down, and if we sell, we can experience losses and regrets.
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September 16, 2018, 11:44:05 AM
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The main idea is to stop selling crypto currency because of panic, because investors lose their money and have a negative attitude towards bitcoin.

We need to calm down and develop the crypto market

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September 16, 2018, 12:32:50 PM
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Hodling is like the only thing you could do when the market panicked, of course its not the only solution, you could sell and dip low, which future increase your loses if the bottom is nowhere near of what you expected, that's how market work when its really down, you could short for more bitcoins and there's certain way to make gains even the market is going down, hodling is well, the basic thing for every beginners when you suffered some loses.

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We should take individual strategic decision. HODL is best approach but who knows wheres the bottom? Just buy bites along the way at prices you like and sell even with small profits. It's always good to HODL some and sell partially so that you can reenter again at the bottom of bear market.This will also average out your BTC losses.  
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September 16, 2018, 12:40:39 PM
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hold better than panic sell, or sell large amounts of btc. even though we all hold without making any transactions, at least bitcoin does not lose volume on the demands and will make it more stable.
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I think if all the people holding it might be able to raise the price. I agree with your invitation to hold it. I also still hold all my coins because I believe this is a profitable investment for the future.

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September 16, 2018, 01:48:03 PM
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hold better than panic sell, or sell large amounts of btc. even though we all hold without making any transactions, at least bitcoin does not lose volume on the demands and will make it more stable.

If you believe that holding will get the price higher, what will you do when the demand decreases and value goes with it? Will you hold looking at the price dropping to 4000 > 3000 > 2000, until it goes back to pre MtGox prices? Holding is a good strategy if you have a long way to go before you go bust. Otherwise it's not.

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September 16, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
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I believe that Bitcoin is valuable today just because the early adopters decided to use their Bitcoin as a payment instrument instead of holding and now it is our responsibility to do the same because the core principle of Bitcoins states that it is a payment system. I am not against speculation but I think that we should not give first priority to speculation.
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September 16, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
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it seems like every time that the market acts against certain people's expectations they start coming up with the strangest of ideas regarding what can change the market into their own vision. for example what OP is talking about is one of those cases where people try to convince others not to sell because they can not believe price is going down! and think if they can convince others to hold price would stop going down and start rising.

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September 16, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
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Hmmm.. Embracing the market will cause alot of harm than good to use because those who buy in a high price will find it very difficult to cope up with the market price..
Will you expect someone to sell off his/her btc  at 6500$ when he/she bought in a higher price??
If you are the one how will you fell with that change??
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One can hodl a coin for a while and it still could turn shitcoins with value abysmally dropped. It only goes to show that hodling isn't a panacea for falling in price. The dynamics of the market is far beyond the simplicity of hodling. It even surpasses the elementary economics of buying and selling. The inter-dialogue between demand and supply as to what quantity (large quantity can crash price) is sold or bought is key. Demand has to be greater than supply to make meaning for price rise.

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Holding is good for cryptocurrency but we should be cautious in holding every time we cant get profit in holding we should hold and  keep selling only whenever we see profits then only we will make profits
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I think, the best thing for small investor is holding when market drop the value. I am believe investing bitcoin for long term and i dont have plan to sell my bitcoin at short time. Holding our coin when people panic can reducing supply in market

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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
As I stated in my previous posts also that when I was a newbie I have told many things that I have to keep in mind while investing into crypto and make maximum profit out of it and the most important of which is having patience and have to invest wisely that when to buy and sell my coin, as we all know that bitcoin is a volatile crypto currency and thus its valuation keeps on flactuation according to market demand and supply and for this holding is the best option in the time of deflation and I think holding is the only solution to drop of BTC prices.
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i must say that some coins are not worthy of holding even if we conitnue preaching about holding. we all need to find a good reason to hold within ourselve not as a result of external comandmnet or mandation from third party. prices dosent decrease or increase when holding because everyone isnt doing the same thing at everytime so there will surely be price flunctuations. 
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I think holding coins may help the situation only partially because in order for a coin do well there must be large trades covering both large demands and supply.
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September 18, 2018, 09:33:14 PM
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in my opinion holding is not only way to drop of btc price. bitcoin running on the theory of demand and supply .trading could be more effective for increasing bitcoin demand.
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September 18, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
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It actually depend on the people who were engaged in btc and in my opinion, only those small time investors are mostly doing hodl.  For the traders,  they do not prefer to hold too long for as long as they think they could earn even a marginal profit,  they will do the trading. Hodl is the most common strategy that prevent the investor from losing investment especially if they will go panic selling during bear market.

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September 18, 2018, 10:39:48 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
If you really can make a chance with this bear market, then you can get profit from that. Like buy back and sell in a little amount of profit, then buy again sell again with little spread. But sometime people only like to hold.

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September 18, 2018, 10:58:17 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Holding is not a solution to any market condition, particularly on price drop. Holding does nothing much. It's neutral. It's like driving a car. When you are at a stop, you are neutral and you're not going anywhere (holding). Until you change the shift to either drive forward (buy) or reverse (sell). Now the only way for you to get far is to keep driving forward (more buys to increase price). A hodler is just a spectator. Waiting for the right time to make his move while others are making trades.

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yes, sometimes holding makes the market down, when trading volume in each exchange is low, but I think hold always creates greater profits. and makes the bitcoin market become uptrend.

holding is a trading and investment strategy. so, we always need this strategy to create bulls. at least holding makes the value of bitcoin stable.
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

in a way holding bitcoin can somewhat indeed be one of the solution in the price drop.
but since this isn't possible to happen due to the fact that we can't control the decisions of every bitcoin holder then what we can do better is to continuously promote cryptocurrency to those who doesn't have idea or has reservations against it.
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I think, the best thing for small investor is holding when market drop the value. I am believe investing bitcoin for long term and i dont have plan to sell my bitcoin at short time. Holding our coin when people panic can reducing supply in market
Holding is the best thing to do when price goes down in the market and wait until no one does panic selling that cause for the supply to increase. Buying from the time like this is good because it helps to reduce the supply then hold it until the price goes up and give good profit.
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I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Actually I got a little bit confused on what you are really pointing about. Are you saying that btc's price will drop (since you said "drain") assuming that each one of us just hodl only which means no buying and selling at all? If yes then I think you're wrong. Ideally thinking, if there are no changes at all happening in the market then the trend will be just horizontal as time passes by. (I guess so )

Going back to your title/question. My answer is Yes, it is. For long term investors there, hodling is the best option we can do during bearish days but if you can buy even more or if you can make profits out of daily price fluctuations then much better Smiley. My point is, selling in such days is not advisable.
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yes, sometimes holding makes the market down, when trading volume in each exchange is low, but I think hold always creates greater profits. and makes the bitcoin market become uptrend.

holding is a trading and investment strategy. so, we always need this strategy to create bulls. at least holding makes the value of bitcoin stable.
Market cannot going to move when people only hold. It gives small help and buying more can help much more for the price to move upward. Buying huge amount then hold is the best action to help the market where each of us gonna gain good result. And avoid those who make panic selling because they won't help the price to go up but add more on the supply of bitcoin.

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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.


I do not think you totally understand the system yet.
Holding can make prices still or maintain a range value. The more people buy BTC and hold then it can rise proportionally.
While in other circumstances, Holding can be scary if other people will only sell because it can drag the prices down.

Holding can either be beneficial or a threat to another's cryptos.
As you can see it is volatile depending on supply and demand.
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September 19, 2018, 04:13:12 AM
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I think that if we all keep bitcoin, it will negatively affect its implementation in our life as a payment system, for which it was created. Infrastructure for its use as money is not created, it simply does not need, who did not know about the crypto currency, continues to be ignorant, because he does not see its application in practice.
At the same time holding the bitcoin really leads to an increase in its price, which is also not generally good for him. In fact, this is one of the ways to artificially raise its price, and its high price creates a greater likelihood of panic in the market due to the large price volatility of bitcoin and the emergence of simultaneously negative information.
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September 19, 2018, 05:47:16 AM
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Holding can be scary if other people will only sell because it can drag the prices down.
It's scary when big whales dump their huge holdings, like just what happened when Mt. Gox trustee dump their 16,000 bitcoin yet still in control of 137,890 btc which is 0.87 percent of circulation so if that will happen the whole community will be mess.

Holding can either be beneficial or a threat to another's cryptos.
As you can see it is volatile depending on supply and demand.

Therefore, the effects will still depend on how people treat and execute the holding method, if its do wrongly it will be abuse.

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September 19, 2018, 05:51:16 AM
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I am not sure what to do anymore but when Bitcoin is at the bottom or near the bottom is it wise to sell unless you need to? O.K how lower can we go from here to around 4k USD? The upside from here on is much stronger than is the downside. I mean we could go down to 3-4k USD worse case scenario which is a 50% drop from here but the upside potential from here is a x 10 scenario, so the risk to reward ratio is healthier on the reward side don't you think? So at this juncture, unless you are desperate, I would say hold for now. It wouldn't be wise to dump at the bottom unless you are day trading and want to earn your daily percentages.


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September 19, 2018, 06:13:53 AM
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There are a lot of different opinions on this and I think the most logical answer should be something that would bring balance to the market. If 100% of the people HODL, then merchants will stop accepting bitcoins as a payment option and then they demand will decline.

Who would want to buy bitcoins, if you cannot spend it somewhere? <The demand will also increase the price.> Everything must be in a balanced state. <Too much supply = price decline / No availability = higher price / No availability, but no merchants accepting it = lower price>  Tongue

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The decline in bitcoin has no effect by holding it back, on the contrary, the more people who hold bitcoin strongly will help increase the price of bitcoin.
the market only manipulates the situation and will panic people and eventually sell bitcoin at a cheap price in panic, I hope many people hold bitcoin strongly because the current situation is that the price of Bitcoin is very low and holding bitcoin is the best way to change bitcoin prices.

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If you bought bitcoin at the peak then you are afraid to loss your money then hold is the best thing. Bitcoin will not become zero. Bitcoin is the future, just don't mind how much you lost in fiat, as long as you don't sell at loss, you are not loser.

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September 19, 2018, 10:37:52 AM
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Yes it's true that holding bitcoin is the solution to make a huge profit since 2017 will see the difference if you hold your bitcoin in january 2017 and hold it until december 2017 you will make a huge profit i think your funds will become x5.

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September 19, 2018, 10:42:43 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

This is your choice.
You can try trading, but I speculate that most traders fail because they are played by experienced traders and sometimes even by whales who manipulates the pirce and robs the small traders. You can just cash out and wait for lower prices if that moment will come.
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September 19, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
It will not drain because many who don't understand will still sell it. Even traders will sell if they see a significant price hike of Bitcoin like what happened last year. If you want to sell your Bitcoin then it's your choice but you cannot force others to sell their holdings because they know what is the potential of Bitcoin in the future.
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September 19, 2018, 01:18:07 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Actually for me, this is a psychological as those who said hold is the one to sell on every rise of the price and those who hold will be late to sell there coins as the price had already drop after a big dumps from those whose shout hold. I prefer to sell if I find profitable at certain price and buy back once the price goes bottom.
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September 19, 2018, 01:29:52 PM
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If we will set the market into the real market in our society. Holding will likely be a hoarding of supply. Hoarding usually did by investors specially when there is an inflation. In terms of holding the bitcoin, it make sense since there are only limited coins that circulates throughout the world. If there are limited supply and the demand will get higher, price will rise up also. As we all know that price is driven by demand and supply.

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September 19, 2018, 01:47:54 PM
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Yes it's true that holding bitcoin is the solution to make a huge profit since 2017 will see the difference if you hold your bitcoin in january 2017 and hold it until december 2017 you will make a huge profit i think your funds will become x5.
Yes holding bitcoin could gives us a huge profit even price this year will become increase. Holding can be the one of solution for this dropping of btc price. And, selling btc would definitely resulted into lose.
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September 19, 2018, 01:50:48 PM
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Yes it's true that holding bitcoin is the solution to make a huge profit since 2017 will see the difference if you hold your bitcoin in january 2017 and hold it until december 2017 you will make a huge profit i think your funds will become x5.
Yes holding bitcoin could gives us a huge profit even price this year will become increase. Holding can be the one of solution for this dropping of btc price. And, selling btc would definitely resulted into lose.
Holding is not always give you a profit though, imagine if you hold your bitcoins since January 2018, the value of bitcoin is decreasing so hard until now. It means your bitcoin holding is loss because the price of bitcoin right now is super low compared with the price at January 2018, but if you buy bitcoins right now and hold it, I think you can get some profits in the future.

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September 19, 2018, 08:14:33 PM
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Yes when someone can hold bitcoin assets well they are likely to have the opportunity to create success in the future because in a period that is still bad, someone who panics will definitely result in losses and they become afraid when they want to invest.
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September 20, 2018, 04:10:51 AM
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Well, the issue of holding bitcoin since the fall in the value of bitcoin is almost on the lips of everyone. But the question is how sure are you that they are really holding? Ideally, holding though is a very good practice to do and help bitcoin value to rise amicably. This is so because, when people find out that, no one is willing to sell their bitcoin, what happens? They have no option than to come up with a better price and by so doing, bitcoin value will increase.
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September 20, 2018, 04:23:52 AM
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If you bought bitcoin at the peak then you are afraid to loss your money then hold is the best thing. Bitcoin will not become zero. Bitcoin is the future, just don't mind how much you lost in fiat, as long as you don't sell at loss, you are not loser.
But users don't just buy bitcoin right? many of them buy coins that do not necessarily have a bright future like bitcoin. so holding is not necessarily a good choice for them. so I always recommend doing research first before making a choice. when the price you see will continue to decline then cutlose may be the first choice
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Yes when someone can hold bitcoin assets well they are likely to have the opportunity to create success in the future because in a period that is still bad, someone who panics will definitely result in losses and they become afraid when they want to invest.
therefore we must be prepared to face the problems that will confront. make sure before you start, learn about investing in Cryptocurrency to avoid losses. hard work and never give up will give great results.

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Not all traders or investors hodl their bitcoin, in fact, there are more people trading their bitcoins in the exchanges than holding it for long term. People who have no time to trade cryptocurrencies are the ones who hold their coins while waiting for the prices to go up again. It still your choice if you want to sell your bitcoin if you afford to lose some of your investment and buy some coins to recover your losses.
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Long term HODL isn't a solution to every market situation!

If you are in cryptos just for ROI that too in long term by taking the least risk possible, then yes, HODL is the possible option to get decent ROI with least risk. In this volatile market, a year or two years hodl can earn you good ROI. But make sure that you go for potential coins because shit tokens have a lifetime period of not more than a year.

But if you are here for quick bucks and to exploit the maximum potential, trade according to the trends. Don't let your investment sit throughout down/up trend. Make trading decisions according to the ongoing trend to maximize your profit. This do involve more risk.

Right now market is being manipulated heavily. Everything in Crypto is completely maneuvered by exchanges and their cartel friends. Without more fiat gateways, it will remain the same. Whatever TA you apply today, you'll have 50% win ratio at the best. Instead try to club TA with mass psychology and trade according to that.
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September 20, 2018, 03:47:13 PM
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As you know, holding bitcoin is the best choice for us to be stable now. Because the price of Bitcoin is falling down, investors don't dare to sell all bitcoin. They will lose a large sum of money .
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September 20, 2018, 03:59:51 PM
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Maybe. I proceed from the fact that Bitcoin has not yet had a super-ASIC, but what goes on the market is more energy efficient, but TH / s is not revolutionary. "Asik-trash" as a rule, works while it is sold (can except large farms). That is, it is taken into account in complexity. Of course, the picture is spoiled by large farms that can be launched, but, in general, one can roughly estimate the complexity and payback. Or I did not take something into account?
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Well I don't think it's because of people hodling bitcoin that's causing the drop in price.  Though it's made that the price won't stay on one certain price it has to be fluctuating. But I think it's because of the high supply of bitcoin due to the high mining pool. Lot's of people mining bitcoin very hard and this is causing the drop in the price because the supply is far more hight than the demand.
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September 20, 2018, 07:02:31 PM
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The importance of holding depends on the circumstance. For instance, holding is good in circumstances when people are selling bitcoin at a price lesser than it deserves. I believe the value is highly dependent on all crypto enthusiasts and just few individuals or the whales, we need to uphold the value of bitcoin and not follow the path of panic sellers. When we hodl at the appropriate times, the price of bitcoin will not drop.
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September 20, 2018, 07:43:00 PM
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Holding might not be the solution but to an extent, it would help to preserve the price of cryptocurrency in this regard. Holding is very good I must confess. It would surely preserve the price
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September 21, 2018, 03:36:29 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

I think some peoples think like that because holding btc can lower the circulation coin.
If the circulation coin going lower but the demands going higher, then what will be happening ?
The value of the coin will increase because there is not enough volume in the circulation.

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September 21, 2018, 03:39:31 AM
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Holding is one of the solution to make the price of BTC to grow again.
Never fill a buy order and let the buyers to to your sell order.
Never put a price lower, make sure to pull the price up.
This is just a little way to get the price up.
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September 22, 2018, 07:03:52 AM
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those who have not sold, just have other means of life, or very much believe in bitcoin) and therefore do not sell
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September 22, 2018, 11:07:27 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Drain of Bitcoin will never happen because it is actively traded in all platforms. The only thing that happen if majority of holder will hold their bitcoin is the increase of value in the market. But it will not happen that the market will drain with Bitcoin because if Bitcoin will increase, there is always a person that take the opportunity to get profit by and sell it.
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September 22, 2018, 11:25:13 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
We have different thoughts about this , but I do believe that it is the solution. We can avoid the loss of money if we choose to hold. Because some people who choose to sell their bitcoin regret it now , they say that it will be better if they hold.
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September 22, 2018, 12:08:51 PM
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If you buy bitcoin or altcoin at medium price and wait for the price increase to sell profit but it drops down you can not sell because of capital loss. So nobody sells at a low price and Hold is right to minimize risk.
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September 27, 2018, 11:42:40 AM
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I think hold is one of the ways to invest in Bitcoin and not everyone who invests in Bitcoin will use it this way, so your concern will not happen. There are many investors who use the trading method and many investors only participate in a few times, so the trading will continue to occur.
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September 27, 2018, 12:12:27 PM
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It is complicated, but I believe the hodl approach is good to uphold the great value of bitcoin.Bitcoin is the  mother of all cryptoccurrencies hence it is really cool to hodl some always as the prices of the other cryptos depends on the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin looks great to keep.
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September 27, 2018, 12:21:02 PM
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Every person can't hodl BTC. The most profitable behavior is trading. Lot of people use it, and get much more profit than holders. Because of that your idea is unreal.

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September 27, 2018, 12:29:11 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

Hold is not the only solution to reduce your losses, you can do average down if prices continue to fall, to minimize risk, but if you feel the price has gone down far from the forecast, do cutloss, because in the future we do not know what will happen, it could be prices continue to fall to the lowest point
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September 27, 2018, 12:35:33 PM
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The thing is many miners don't/can't hold and need to offset their mining costs. So there will always be some kind of sell pressure.
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September 27, 2018, 12:36:39 PM
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holding bitcoin is not the solutions. if you want gains then it is. we need new money to enter the crypto world and adoption of the tech to get bitcoin to rise again. its a gamble game right now. anything can happen it can drop to a new low or rise to a new high but i wont happen this year imo

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September 27, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.


For me holding is not the solution to drop the price of bitcoin. The market is the one that is responsible for the price of bitcoin.
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September 27, 2018, 12:58:05 PM
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Holding can affect btc price but it will not completely drop the btc price. Drop and rise in btc price largely depend on the market community transactions including positive and negative issues being faced by bitcoin and alts.

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September 30, 2018, 02:12:46 AM
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The answer is yes, When all of us togather to hold our bitcoin, then the new investor cannot buy bitcoin with lower prices. We should never sell our bitcoin for lower prices, then the prices of bitcoin will stop decreasing and start to increase again. Also, never do panik sell, when the prices is going down, we should hold more tight.
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October 20, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
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That is not all it takes to solve the issue of drop in prices. There is still transactions ongoing and people are selling and buying but yet there price of btc has been quite stable for a while. I believe sooner than later thing's will be better.
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October 20, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
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If most people hold their bitcoin, then the sell order in the market will be decreased and soon or later people who needs bitcoins will offer good prices to get what they want which means the price can up slowly. That is what on my mind.

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October 20, 2018, 12:49:08 PM
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If we want to look at the macro, in fact the correction in prices which reaches more than 50% of its highest value, which is under 130 million from 260 million, is arguably reasonable.

Why, why is that fair? That reduction is already crazy!

Relax, in my opinion there is a scientific explanation. This is a friend,

First, Cryptocurrency is looking for "fairness". All products, whether property, gold, stocks, bonds, and others always have a fair value, and investors have a different approach to determine that point.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency are the same.

Currently, almost all investors in the world judge that the price of Bitcoin is too high compared to the benefits received. Why is that?

The reason is easy, the majority of the government is still not "interested" and the fear of the global financial industry will be the growth of the digital currency. As a result, the growth of merchants receiving digital currencies has not increased as expected.

Remember, unreached expectations will discourage investors from adding to their portfolios.

While the second, panic of traders and speculators.

If you want to spend a little time analyzing a chart, it will appear that Bitcoin is entering a bearish phase. This phase shows traders are panicking to determine whether to stay in the market or not, where eventually traders are more inclined to save their fiat money. What for?

Obviously, to buy bitcoin and other digital currencies at the lowest possible price. Thus their profits will be higher.
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October 20, 2018, 03:52:54 PM
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If you buy bitcoin or altcoin at medium price and wait for the price increase to sell profit but it drops down you can not sell because of capital loss. So nobody sells at a low price and Hold is right to minimize risk.
I think not only hiding can be a solution for you to help help the market price to rise buy also buying more volume while it is cheaper because the price fall more as many get panic and cut their losses than holding. When price fall more many are getting panic and contribute for price to drop and lose value so we have to take chance to buy for more and gain profit when price recover.

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October 20, 2018, 03:57:28 PM
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Holding of bitcoin is also a reason for the price dumping, but this won't be contributing big. The lack or reduction in the circulation volume of bitcoin caused due to holding is a reason. Most of the time the price fluctuations takes place in large scale same as the present due to the manipulation from large volume bitcoin holders.

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October 20, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
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As the supply of bitcoin becomes more scarce, you will see the price if btc rises.  There is only 21 millions btc available and millions have already been lost forever.  So I believe btc will be even more in demand in the future.  Hodling is the way to go with btc. 
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October 20, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
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If you don’t need to your money in a short time, selling your bitcoin for a lower price than you bought without having any idea about the situation of market makes no sense. If people think in this way, it will reduce down pressure. Newbies who have no idea how to trade is easily trapped and lose their money. If you wait for the next bull, you can eliminate your lost even if it takes more than a year. Also, HODL is a proper way for people who would decrease effect of speculations.
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October 20, 2018, 07:33:22 PM
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Btc won't drain the way you think. That's stopping the flow of supply in the bitcoin economy which will result to decrease its number and by that means, the lesser the supply is in the market, the higher the demand will. There's no other solution to the price drop but to increase its demand through having more buying power. And its destined to increase, halving will come, mainstream adoption is coming and institutional money will come.

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October 20, 2018, 07:35:57 PM
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Actually holding has its effect on the price of bitcoin, although it has not been proven.
But I believe that if more investors/traders would agree to hold their portfolios without rushing to dump below their buy rate ....it could impact positively on the market.

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That's right, I agree with you.To raise the price, we need to buy and attract a new audience to buy.And also need more purchases using bitcoin.It is necessary to advertise and promote this currency as much as possible.And of course we have to stick together.More positive actions and experience on the stock exchange.

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October 20, 2018, 09:20:27 PM
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Well, I understand your confusion. What you should know is that every market is relies on an economic principle of supply and demand. When demand increases, price rises and vice versa. Applying this to Btc, when more people hodl than they sell, the demand for Btc will go up and that will have effect on the price, right

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October 20, 2018, 09:36:39 PM
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I don't think we should worry about that. People will really buy and sell bitcoin all the time. Yes, and we are also not going to hold bitcoin indefinitely, and once we still have to sell it.

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October 20, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
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People fail to understand the simple basic of economics, demand and supply are the major market driving factors. When demand exceed supply price increase is eminent and when the supply exceed demand price reduction occurs. So we can't expect bitcoin to rice if there is actually no supply.
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October 20, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
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Nevertheless, now it is better to really refrain from selling bitcoin. It is still very unstable, and it is better to strengthen it with the help of your investment. But the time will come, and we will be able to actively use it as a currency, and then few people will just keep it as a long-term perspective.


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October 20, 2018, 10:14:58 PM
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Transactions with bitcoins will always continue to be made, this happens even now, when the prices of the crypto currency have fallen and the moment for the sale is very unprofitable. So we can not worry.

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October 21, 2018, 12:40:09 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

Hodling helping to reduce supply in market. Like others commodities, supply and demand determining price. I am believe if more people hodl their coin, bitcoin price increase, because bitcoin is good long term investment
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October 21, 2018, 12:56:47 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

No, don't just hodl. To increase the price of bitcoin (or any crypto) you have to use it and trade it. Nothing will happen if you just hodl. This will only get a low market volume thus making the value low because investor don't like to buy a low volume. If you look at the graph, price go up when there's high trading volume (pumping/FOMO can cause this) and there's a low price when people started to dump and no one is buying (FUD,dumping). So use and trade smartly your crypto don't just hodl it.

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October 21, 2018, 01:20:56 AM
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Holding is one of the best ways aside Tethering(USDT)  to deal with bear markets when the weak hands begin to sell off their valuable coins for cheap prices. Crypto requires patience sometimes because the market does not have a smooth path of upward motion. There are periods the market goes red, however, it is certain that the market always recover.
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October 21, 2018, 02:06:16 AM
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I think that makes sense regarding the price movement of bitcoin. Basically, its market value depends on the demand of the people and that is when they buy bitcoin or sell their bitcoin holdings. But when everyone will hold and no one will sell, the volume will only have the buying transaction which will cause the price to spike.
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October 21, 2018, 02:32:39 AM
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I think that makes sense regarding the price movement of bitcoin. Basically, its market value depends on the demand of the people and that is when they buy bitcoin or sell their bitcoin holdings. But when everyone will hold and no one will sell, the volume will only have the buying transaction which will cause the price to spike.

But if everyone is holding then eventually there would be someone that would sell and if he is a big holder then some would panic and sell as well which would cause a big red candle. I think the solution would be to make people be aware of bitcoin and then increase its demand. The key would be to make people use bitcoin as a currency so that transactions would continue to flow and volume would still be there. It would help in making the merchants consider in adopting it.

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October 21, 2018, 04:09:29 AM
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Yes,if you are about the bitcoin price then holding can be the best option to save ourselves from loss or you can just sell at the beginning of price drops then buy when the prices starts to recover which is the most profitable option that is why everyone is trying to do that but it is not easy as it looks like because we never know when the price drops or increase until it became happened.
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October 21, 2018, 04:12:10 AM
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I agree- we can only HODL for so long. Even though others say we really do not lose anything as these are merely paper losses, we still lose somehow brought about by time and missed opportunities. Especially when you know you could have used the money you have invested here into something more income-generating.

I believe that to be really accepted in the market, cryptos should have the ability to stay as it is or boost even higher although the people who are into it may either be HODLING or selling, in which case, it is mimicking the strength of traditional currencies. This scenario will make it even more popular to those who have not encountered cryptocurrencies yet as of writing.
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October 21, 2018, 04:26:46 AM
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I think so, as I understand holding bitcoin make its market value price become low. If we don't sale or buy bitcoin (as we call it cycle of digital money) the market price will goes down gradually. I don't think it is a bad idea to hold for a long time.
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Noo it think HOLD bitcoin cant make bitcoin price pump, a reasonable reason the price of bitcoin can go up is if so many request buy. Even if you HOLD it very long time but there was no request buy, still useless. So its is about the transaction not about hold
Indeed holding does not make the price of bitcoin pump, there is absolutely no connection. People who hold their bitcoin are just waiting for the right time until the price of bitcoin goes up and then sell it. I think holding is a good idea to make a small profit when btc prices are down.

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October 21, 2018, 04:48:18 AM
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I think so, when the market drops, the best thing to do is holding, and I have the principle that hold for profit is better and more profitable than cut loss. I'm sure with patience we will get a big profit.

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October 21, 2018, 05:05:24 AM
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Noo it think HOLD bitcoin cant make bitcoin price pump, a reasonable reason the price of bitcoin can go up is if so many request buy. Even if you HOLD it very long time but there was no request buy, still useless. So its is about the transaction not about hold
Indeed holding does not make the price of bitcoin pump, there is absolutely no connection. People who hold their bitcoin are just waiting for the right time until the price of bitcoin goes up and then sell it. I think holding is a good idea to make a small profit when btc prices are down.
I believe holding is one of the most effective strategies when market is not at its best. When price fluctuates it's best to hold and be patient until it will recover. In this way it can help reduce the level of risks and huge losses.
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October 21, 2018, 05:09:31 AM
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I personally do not understand about the up and down of bitcoin price, I read some articles that mostly say the price of bitcoin is influence by the holders itself, it means that the holder of bitcoin has crucial role about the market price. However, it has been for about a year the price movement of bitcoin tends to stay on that price, there is no significant of change of its price. Does it mean all holders are keeping safe bitcoin on their wallet?
I can't imagine if all holder are holding their coins, it must be so high the price of bitcoin.

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October 21, 2018, 05:17:45 AM
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if in my opinion and what I doubt now. I prefer to sell it bro. for short-term investments. With short-term investments I can get a little at a time. to meet daily needs
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October 21, 2018, 05:21:19 AM
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I dont get what you mean by BTC will drain, if we all hold the price will go up because theres a demand and theres no one wants to sell their BTC in lower price so the buyers will bid higher and higher day by day, just think of the law of supply and demand and you will understand how it works.

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Noo it think HOLD bitcoin cant make bitcoin price pump, a reasonable reason the price of bitcoin can go up is if so many request buy. Even if you HOLD it very long time but there was no request buy, still useless. So its is about the transaction not about hold
Indeed holding does not make the price of bitcoin pump, there is absolutely no connection. People who hold their bitcoin are just waiting for the right time until the price of bitcoin goes up and then sell it. I think holding is a good idea to make a small profit when btc prices are down.
I believe holding is one of the most effective strategies when market is not at its best. When price fluctuates it's best to hold and be patient until it will recover. In this way it can help reduce the level of risks and huge losses.

Always hold Bitcoin when the market is down. Even now, when the prices of the cryptocurrencies are rather stable, I prefer not to sell anything. Hodlers always win.
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October 21, 2018, 01:45:19 PM
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If we are not permitted for hodl, what is the best solution? If we are determined to sell, it will have a bad impact on ourselves.
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October 21, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
As if all people here that has bitcoin will do the same thing lol

Having bitcoin is a commodity that you have source of income aside from your regular work.so when time comes that were in need,theres other options to take money.not only in our bank accounts or personal savings
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October 21, 2018, 02:06:34 PM
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I personally do not understand about the up and down of bitcoin price, I read some articles that mostly say the price of bitcoin is influence by the holders itself, it means that the holder of bitcoin has crucial role about the market price. However, it has been for about a year the price movement of bitcoin tends to stay on that price, there is no significant of change of its price. Does it mean all holders are keeping safe bitcoin on their wallet?
I can't imagine if all holder are holding their coins, it must be so high the price of bitcoin.

I don't agree. Where did you read that holders are influencing the market? If you're a holder you're out of the market. You're not selling at all and you're ready to wait a long time before the price is satisfying enough. It's the traders that influence the market. They are the people behind all the pumps and dumps, not the holders.
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October 21, 2018, 02:10:02 PM
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In my opinion. this method is very efficient at this time because selling assets in very low price conditions will further exacerbate crypto prices in the trade market. and now is the right time to buy large amounts of crypto currency because crypto prices are very cheap. and buying crypto in large quantities will help reduce the supply of coins in the trading market so that the price of coins can rise slightly.

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October 21, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Depletion will not occur for at least one reason, as long as demand exceeds supply, and this is exactly what will happen when the majority hold, the price will gradually increase, or be kept within certain limits. In order for Bitcoin to lose its value, either a loss of confidence in Bitcoin (easy breaking of the chain, for example) or a large number of offers with zero demand are needed.
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October 21, 2018, 09:56:36 PM
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Noo it think HOLD bitcoin cant make bitcoin price pump, a reasonable reason the price of bitcoin can go up is if so many request buy. Even if you HOLD it very long time but there was no request buy, still useless. So its is about the transaction not about hold
Indeed holding does not make the price of bitcoin pump, there is absolutely no connection. People who hold their bitcoin are just waiting for the right time until the price of bitcoin goes up and then sell it. I think holding is a good idea to make a small profit when btc prices are down.
I believe holding is one of the most effective strategies when market is not at its best. When price fluctuates it's best to hold and be patient until it will recover. In this way it can help reduce the level of risks and huge losses.
holding is one of the safest ways to do when the price of bitcoin has experienced a very sharp price decline to minimize the risk of loss. survive for a long time can be done by everyone because they don't want to throw away the bitcoin they have unless it really requires money.
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October 21, 2018, 11:14:43 PM
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Holding was the way for you to earn because short term investment was not recommendable due to the fluctuation of value so that is why you read from the senior to higher rank that the best strategy to earn was long term or holding coins because while the value fall and after a month were rise you earn because of patient and holding so that is why we are still holding due to continues falling because we know that it will rise again just like what happen last year.
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Holding was the way for you to earn because short term investment was not recommendable due to the fluctuation of value so that is why you read from the senior to higher rank that the best strategy to earn was long term or holding coins because while the value fall and after a month were rise you earn because of patient and holding so that is why we are still holding due to continues falling because we know that it will rise again just like what happen last year.
if you think about it you have to hold it in red market conditions. but in fact, many holders are selling in red market conditions even though they experience a loss they are still selling I think they are selling because there is a need and fear the value will be lost. if all holds I am sure the price will rise even higher.
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October 22, 2018, 01:11:01 AM
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Holding is not the only solution to adhere to when the market goes down. Most crypto investors prefer to Tether their coins during bear market seasons. The USDT is the coin which does not get affected by the upward and downward movement of the market significantly. Hence it renders approximately zero profit or loss.

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October 22, 2018, 01:24:54 AM
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As Far as I'm concerned , holding can be seen as the solution to drop of btc price, but i don't think it will a sustainable and constant for the future. Just thinking that, everyone hold their bitcoin , not operation , how the bitcoin market is?
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October 22, 2018, 01:31:37 AM
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Not exactly. Bitcoin is circulating. There should be a demand and supply relationship for it to have a value in the market. Better say that we should buy more and keep that buying keep on going. Hoarding of bitcoin is not adviseable. It will just stay in your wallet without the ability to circulate. Maybe keeping it in sometime is good and selling it to the best price is very good. Maybe the term "hold" is used for keeping the coins safe for a meantime to avoid dump in the first phase of it.
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October 22, 2018, 02:26:27 AM
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Not sure that holding truly the solution to drop of btc as per i know that it's depends on demand and supply that's difference make him some times up and some times down.

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For me, hodl is the easiest way if you do not have the time and skill to trade. But I think hodl will be more suitable for long-term investment.
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October 22, 2018, 12:46:10 PM
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I do believe what keep btc going is the fact that we wake up each day and still realise that there is still buy and sell. The moment there isn't any transaction with btc, then we can say maybe that is the end. Nevertheless, most people say hodl because there is the need to control the supply to sustain or raise the value of btc.

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October 22, 2018, 01:16:37 PM
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Actually, its what keeps bitcoin at the stable price of $6000. Just imagine if holders dumps bitcoin, the price could really go down and hit bottom. So no, its not the primary cause of the dramatic price fall. What's causes the price to plummet is because newbie traders panic and then investors lost its interest because of so much negative news.









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October 22, 2018, 01:18:46 PM
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It might be effective but you can't control users and investors in that way that you can prevent selling. To my opinion just holding bitcoin isn't the best strategy also, bitcoin is created to be actively used not only as an investment asset.
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It might be effective but you can't control users and investors in that way that you can prevent selling. To my opinion just holding bitcoin isn't the best strategy also, bitcoin is created to be actively used not only as an investment asset.


What exactly is bitcoin currently supposed to be used for? As of now there is no mainstream use case for Bitcoin and I believe there are other alternative coins out there who tackle the payment use-case way better than bitcoin. Intuitively I would say that most people treat Bitcoin as a store of value, nothing more, nothing less.
So I would say holding is indeed the best way to survive this massive drop.
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October 22, 2018, 02:02:52 PM
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i do not think so about that. when people hold bitcoin, this can help bitcoin increase its price, and now the trading day by day by trader buy/sell bitcoin, i think no matter with this. when some one sell a lot of bitcoins they make the price of bitcoin drop so more. i think hold BTC can make the price go down.
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October 22, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
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It might be effective but you can't control users and investors in that way that you can prevent selling. To my opinion just holding bitcoin isn't the best strategy also, bitcoin is created to be actively used not only as an investment asset.

that's right all have their own will and it's true that the use of bitcoin should not be a long-term holding because naturally bitcoin is used for trade transactions every day that I know.
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if in my opinion and what I doubt now. I prefer to sell it bro. for short-term investments. With short-term investments I can get a little at a time. to meet daily needs

I am holding the main, most popular cryptocurrencies. For instance, I am going to hodl Ethereum, DASH and Bitcoin for several years. But I also trade dealing with the cheaper tokens.
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Probably, for me it is just like a coin that you save into a piggy bank in our house and coins in the market will become short. I mean, if every one of us are HODLING bitcoin and no cycle (no buying and selling) the market will be down.

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I do not think that it will happen that every single investor in bitcoin will keep it in the long term and not spend it. This is impossible, people will still sell it for their needs or use it as a currency.

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At this stage, bitcoin is really more used as a long-term investment, but it will not last forever. Bitcoin was conceived as an alternative to the national currency, and will be implemented in this way, and we will be able to actively use it. It's just difficult right now.


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October 23, 2018, 06:42:27 PM
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And the fact that the decentralized economy will somehow build and maintain itself is a utopia. After some time, we will be shown that the theory did not meet expectations and eventually we will get an even more centralized world.

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Now investing in long-term bitcoin really prevails, but still there is a large percentage and short-term investors who regularly sell bitcoin. And not all investors have so much patience for long-term investment. And there are already people who use it as a currency. Therefore, your fears are in vain.

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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
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October 23, 2018, 08:31:21 PM
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It is true that "hodling" will be the solution to this price drop. Why because many people have changed from bitcoin to usdt and other coins that they think are very stable and not affected by the current bear market trend which causes a drop in prices and it raises the demand for usdt more than btc. A typical proof of this is when the fake news that binance will delist usdt, the way people rushed and exchanged their usdt backed to btc brought about a sharp increase in btc price. When the news was condemned, we saw how they started changing back to tether which caused the reduction in btc price again.
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It is true that "hodling" will be the solution to this price drop. Why because many people have changed from bitcoin to usdt and other coins that they think are very stable and not affected by the current bear market trend which causes a drop in prices and it raises the demand for usdt more than btc. A typical proof of this is when the fake news that binance will delist usdt, the way people rushed and exchanged their usdt backed to btc brought about a sharp increase in btc price. When the news was condemned, we saw how they started changing back to tether which caused the reduction in btc price again.

But, I think the recent change in USDT has an effect on people due to no one thought the USDT could be changed until price went down and there is no guarantee that it will not fall again in the future.
There are tens of thousands of Bitcoin holders and because of it is impossible to manage everybody holding is not a solution. Any news that will have a positive impact on everyone may cause price rise.
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October 27, 2018, 08:43:17 PM
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Your experiences are in vain, believe me, there will still be people who will sell bitcoin, it is inevitable. In addition, not all investors use a long-term investment strategy.

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October 27, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
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But you know perfectly well that absolutely not everyone uses this strategy. There are people who are engaged in trading, there are those who already use it as a currency, and many people sell it for their own needs.
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October 27, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

Over time, I've been able to understand that hodl is just coined to make quite a lot of people bag holders. Best is to cut loss then buy low and gain something good when the price goes up.

Applying the concept of hodl when price goes low has only made so many people bag holders whereas the whole concept.is to permit consistent transactions within the blocks.
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To hold i think is the solution to the drop of BTC price. No trader would want to loose out by selling when the market drops.
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To hold i think is the solution to the drop of BTC price. No trader would want to loose out by selling when the market drops.

Absolutely bright but there are panic sellers who starts selling when the value is less or when the value drops and people who depend on bitcoin for their bread and butter who earn through the signature campaign and converts the rewards in btc has to sell it out to encash it regardless of price.









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October 27, 2018, 10:37:54 PM
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It might be effective but you can't control users and investors in that way that you can prevent selling. To my opinion just holding bitcoin isn't the best strategy also, bitcoin is created to be actively used not only as an investment asset.

that's right all have their own will and it's true that the use of bitcoin should not be a long-term holding because naturally bitcoin is used for trade transactions every day that I know.

Holding is the best way for our funds and investments, If we sell it in low price we will not have a profit anymore. We should be aware of our decisions in making our source of income, The best way to do now is to hold for the hope of having our funds in the future.
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October 27, 2018, 11:51:33 PM
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if in my opinion and what I doubt now. I prefer to sell it bro. for short-term investments. With short-term investments I can get a little at a time. to meet daily needs

I am holding the main, most popular cryptocurrencies. For instance, I am going to hodl Ethereum, DASH and Bitcoin for several years. But I also trade dealing with the cheaper tokens.
That's a good strategy, Holding your funds and the potential coins is the best way to survive in the market crisis, We should choose the right coins to invest with , When market fails, We should consider also the risk of our funds to be in the market, Drop of BTC price is always been happening since then, It is very volatile, We can't predict its price, We should be wise in keeping our funds and profits safe.
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

It's hard to be a family on the battlefield, where everyone is for himself) it's still a market and capitalism, not an evening dinner in the family circle with a Turkey on the table. The main rule is profit. Therefore, I have always been against the fact that relatives were with me in the same business. Sooner or later, you will still have to face problems and then really unpleasant things will begin.
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October 28, 2018, 02:39:48 AM
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Yes you can say it holding truly the solution to drop of btc as i am not a expert or very old user but here alot of experts opninon regarding price of btc they said that price depends on the supply and demand of btc.

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For Bitcoin this is probably good way or solution because Bitcoin has strong value, but for other major crypto or altcoin probably it is not recommended because we see that there are many Altcoins are losing out the value. Holding is not proper now otherwise we will lose our assets.

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For Bitcoin this is probably good way or solution because Bitcoin has strong value, but for other major crypto or altcoin probably it is not recommended because we see that there are many Altcoins are losing out the value. Holding is not proper now otherwise we will lose our assets.
Better to select alts that have really good potentials and leave those who are just a copy from another project, crypto market is all about how well
you understand, better to act carefully and assess whatever decision you will going to take into, lots of pressure can bring a panic actions, be careful
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October 28, 2018, 05:44:24 AM
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Cool decision hold of Bitcoin complement decided right now this time. Basically when have Bitcoin price 15k$ up it buy moment people now keep claim holding for future profit.better be careful need to target more profit.
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For Bitcoin this is probably good way or solution because Bitcoin has strong value, but for other major crypto or altcoin probably it is not recommended because we see that there are many Altcoins are losing out the value. Holding is not proper now otherwise we will lose our assets.

  Holding does not mean of helding bitcoin's price dropping, but it determines about how fierce we can handle things incommodity and in appropriable way. Consequently, bitcoin has potential assets along all of the currencies, even its price has grown rapidly, we have to be more patience and considering things accumulately. In order for us to be a successful investors, learn to hold bitcoin even it take more riskier. Because pumping or dumping was part of being volatile in the market field and it also depend the capacity of demand.
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October 28, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
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Spreading the meme of holding is relatively easy for those who manage to get excellent entries are couple of years ago. However, if you bought back in December or January, would not have been the best option.
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October 28, 2018, 06:18:22 AM
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Well now i think of it i guess its true because when there is less trading of a coin and less people are selling then the market can go down.
I have to say thanks for this thought tho never thought holding is also bad  for btc
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in my opinion there are indeed some effects of the many traders or investors who hold hold for example as you mentioned above, but it cannot be used as the main benchmark that prices go down because many do hold, in my opinion there are many other factors that cause bitcoin prices to decline or weakened like a factor of many fake news government regulation factors and others
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holding can be one of the best ways to keep the assets that you have because when you panic and sell the cryptocurrency that you have at a low price, what you will get is only a loss so you should be able to hold the bitcoin you have until the price becomes very expensive.

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For Bitcoin this is probably good way or solution because Bitcoin has strong value, but for other major crypto or altcoin probably it is not recommended because we see that there are many Altcoins are losing out the value. Holding is not proper now otherwise we will lose our assets.

For those who believe that bitcoin will continue to strengthen may prefer to hold it while for people who always want to get profits every day may prefer to trade altcoin by using some of the bitcoin they have because by trading altcoins the price movements are much more active compared to bitcoin which is very stable to date.
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If you don't want to fall into holding your bitcoin for long time then be sure to buy it in lower price so you can sell it the next time the price go up. Holding is still one of the effective strategy in recovering your losses from unexpected price downtrend. But it works mostly on coins that have the potential to go up in the future like bitcoin, ethereum, ripple and other top coins.
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The crypto market continues to grow, and in the market there is always a sale and purchase transaction, this shows that there is always someone who sells every day, and there is always someone who buys and some who hold it. My principle in investing is where I will continue to hold before earning a profit, it's better to be patient waiting than I have to lose, whatever risks that occur in the bitcoin investment that I do now, I will stick to the initial principle when I invested bitcoin, namely always trying to make a profit and always be patient in waiting for price increases. For that I will not think about other circumstances, other than holding and waiting until the time comes to sell by gaining profit through.
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

There is still possibility for bitcoin price to come back skyrocketing just like last year if you patient enough.
Always be able to afford your lose if you want to buying crypto, so you dont have the urgency to liquid your coin in the bear market like this.
If i buying coin with pressure and cannot lose my money, i won't be able to hold with high patience because i need the profit quickly.

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There are a lot of early adopters daily selling a lot of Bitcoin because they are making huge profits. Those 15 and 16 year old miners are now multi millionaires so for them selling a few Bitcoins a day to sustain their lifestyles is nothing. I do not think everyone wants to just hold Bitcoin right now, the selling pressure is always there. Some got Bitcoins for nothing or very cheap so selling them at 6k a Bitcoin is very attractive to them.


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October 29, 2018, 06:08:02 AM
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If we lose the value in the market then it is always good to hold them instead of panic about the price. We don't know when the price of Bitcoin will start increasing and instead of selling it for loss better hold it until the price starts increasing again in the market until then we have to hold them.
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October 29, 2018, 06:54:53 AM
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Holding is the best solution at the moment, when the price of Bitcoin is falling sharply, the most important thing in bitcoin investment is being able to withstand emotions and always be patient waiting for the rising price of bitcoin. For me the most important thing is to always be convinced of the power of bitcoin and believe that bitcoin prices will definitely come back going up, so that we will always be calm in the face of the situation of falling bitcoin prices and ultimately will benefit through bitcoin investment.
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October 29, 2018, 07:18:55 AM
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Historically the best thing you can do with Bitcoin is forget you own it. Right now the only thing to do is wait. Accumulate when you get a little extra money. Build up a supply and continue waiting.

Same thing you do when you're buying stocks in a bear Market. You're looking years down the road to cash out
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October 29, 2018, 07:25:33 AM
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NO, I don't think that a good idea. First, people still do the transaction even the investor do or not, so there will never a stop of bitcoin like you consider. Secondly, even when everyone don't do the transaction, if price will rise ? no , it is impossible
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October 29, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
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I think the solution is to find out why the BTC market is down, if the price drops too sharp then the best option is to hold. and do not panic sell, I also hold my coin because I believe I will make a big profit in the future.
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October 29, 2018, 10:14:41 AM
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Holding of bitcoin is not the solution to bitcoin price dropping but massive selling which is known as dumping can most time cause excessive dropping in price. What can cause dropping or rising in price of bitcoin is the rate of adoption.
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October 29, 2018, 09:57:54 PM
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From economics point of view, scarcity of an item/goods or anything of value results to increase in the price so far there is demand for such goods/items. It is still applicable to bitcoin. However, it is inevitable that people have to make transactions, buying/selling of goods and services using bitcoin. This results in fluctuations in prices. If the buying increases more than the selling, there is likelihood of increase in price because the commodity (for example) bitcoin is now scarce, thereby, increasing the cost of the commodity (I.e. bitcoin).  So, holding have a way of increasing the price, but not everybody want to hold. If those that hold, may not hold it long enough. All these activities have effect on the price of bitcoin.

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October 29, 2018, 10:11:48 PM
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Holding is the solution. When bears are dumping they still gain profits because they bought it earlier, but when sell pressure is decreasing(what we currently seeing) then holders are going to be rewarded because they didn't sell to the whales. Whales are looking to pick up cheap bitcoin, but if everyone hold and nobody sell they will start to pump it Cheesy

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October 29, 2018, 10:13:49 PM
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Holding of bitcoin is not the solution to bitcoin price dropping but massive selling which is known as dumping can most time cause excessive dropping in price. What can cause dropping or rising in price of bitcoin is the rate of adoption.
I dont think the hodl approach is the only solution to preserve bitcoin's value. Personally, I believe the hodl approach is good to uphold the great value of bitcoin. We can also incorporate bitcoin in our daily business transactions. This is a better way to protect bitcoin from falling and not only the HODL approach.
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October 29, 2018, 11:57:05 PM
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I agree with you that we must be active in the market in order for it to grow and develop but invest in long-term, I think this is also a very good idea

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October 30, 2018, 02:48:45 AM
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I think yes, holding is the solution to drop of bitcoin price. We should hold our bitcoin when the value drops. But there are panic sellers who start selling in the bear market. We can’t control the users and investors of bitcoin. So the best way to do now is to hold bitcoin to increase bitcoin’s price and earn many profits in the future.

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October 30, 2018, 02:59:00 AM
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I think the solution is to find out why the BTC market is down, if the price drops too sharp then the best option is to hold. and do not panic sell, I also hold my coin because I believe I will make a big profit in the future.
Holding is not the only way and not the main choice, you must first analyze why prices go down and whether prices will continue to
falling or not, then if you see there is still potential to go up, you can choose to hold it, but if price will continue to going down, you can think to sell it
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October 30, 2018, 03:38:13 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Holding makes sense in period like this one, if everybody starts selling then the price would drop at a level I don't even want to think about... Of course you're right that if all the people hold the coin is gonna die, it's been made to be used, but this is a different situation.

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October 30, 2018, 03:42:54 AM
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Patience from big holder is power to make a potential bitcoin grow up, if market keep fall, hold is good option but buy more is best option
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October 30, 2018, 05:47:22 AM
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if the price drops too sharp then the best option is to hold back for some time because I see the market will recover after that. if you sell right away then the loss will be great, whales and certain communities want us to panic sales
It is true that those who have large funds will expect us to panic and make it possible to sell the coins we have and this is an opportunity for them to buy cheaply.

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October 30, 2018, 06:47:43 AM
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Many Holders often listen to experienced experts, other Pro Holders to choose a good coin, this one personally think is fine, however, this market is not sure, your money. Should you decide and have your own analysis, if bad luck happens, coin you choose not grow as expected and you have losses then it is "risk" that you suffer. , then you will not have to blame yourself to listen to the other "experts". One more thing that you mentioned a lot, investing in the money market is always risky and you have to determine this from the beginning.
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October 30, 2018, 06:54:16 AM
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Is there anything that could hurt the remaining btc holders? People have lost a big part of their fear, so negative news won't affect people that much anymore. Everything fell into a long wintersleep. And then, suddenly, bam! You wake up, seeing btc hitting 10.000, rising with 200 every minute. > ETF approved

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Is there anything that could hurt the remaining btc holders? People have lost a big part of their fear, so negative news won't affect people that much anymore. Everything fell into a long wintersleep. And then, suddenly, bam! You wake up, seeing btc hitting 10.000, rising with 200 every minute. > ETF approved


Yes, and I can finally upgrade to the medium fry when that happens.

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October 30, 2018, 07:12:08 AM
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4,000,000 Bitcoins which were purchased before 2011 for $100 or $200, will be sold.
Wow! That is really awesome! I believe that if the person hold 4M bitcoins for more than 6 years. He/She already a billionaire person. I think holding of bitcoin does not make the price move down but it will make all prices hike. Buy it before it will goes up! And sure that we will become rich.

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October 30, 2018, 07:29:30 AM
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The price of bitcoin is falling, of course we all don't want to suffer losses in the investment that we do. And addressing what is happening to bitcoin at the moment, of course holding is the solution to the current fall in bitcoin prices. Many of the bitcoin holders feel anxious about the current fall in prices, so they are willing to suffer losses in order to avoid the risk of even greater losses. But for me holding is the best step in this investment, because I'm sure prices will rise again some time to come.
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October 30, 2018, 07:45:25 AM
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As we are seeing yesterday prices of cryptocurrencies suddenly start bleeding and weak hands keep selling at low price.
Wise investors will buy at this fall and never sell at low price, even yesterday i bought Ethereum when price fell.
Hope crypto market will be recover/normal soon. HODL.  Smiley
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October 30, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
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If everyone is going to hodl, then it is the solution to the drop in btc price but this will never happen in this crypto world because every drop means a gain for someone or a chance for someone to enter and buy more.
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October 30, 2018, 09:42:50 PM
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I cannot agree more that at this point of bear, holding would really help to avoid btc price decrease more. Let us not allow those new investors to buy our btc at very low price now and earn much later, we should be the one that should reap the fruits of being patient by hodling now.

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October 30, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
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it is not entirely the solution to drop of btc price but it is one of the essential ways of increasing the price of bitcoin with respect to scarcity. The price of any commodity becomes even more expensive when that commodity is scarce and the available few are sold specifically to increase its value

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October 30, 2018, 10:54:05 PM
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on the contrary, HODL has the potential to make BTC prices rise due to limited distribution on the market, coupled with increasing demand will make BTC prices really rise
HODL is usually done if someone wants to be more patient to sell their coins, as much as possible, we must avoid cutloss

People shouLd really learn to hold more regardless of market situation. Holding causes the price rise and This is the only way we could see authentic matket bull run. Wait And buy more as you can afford and let tge price grows as people continue to pay demand on it. If you you'll consider to Hold, better choose an open source software like Hodler wallet this will ensure your funds and allow you to do the holding right way since it has "hold feature" to offer.
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November 08, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
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This is not the whole matter of concern to the price of bitcoin and we must first get to know what really causes thee drop in prices and as to why things goes that way but am sure we all aware of the volatility of crypto. Though holding could help but not for a solution of the drop of prices.

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November 08, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

It's not.
Actually selling is what make btc price drops.
Selling mean lower demand and if demand go lower the price will go lower also
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
I fully agree, this is what I always answer to people stating that bitcoin is not electronic cash anymore, but a store of value instead. What? Don't they realize, that when people stop using bitcoin as electronic cash, then utility for bitcoin vanishes altogether and its utility value is zero?
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November 08, 2018, 02:39:47 PM
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certainly because to overcome the current market conditions is by holding bitcoin, because right now it is still very difficult to benefit from bitcoin trading or investment, so if you want to get big profits it is better to continue to wait until bitcoin experiences a large price increase

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November 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
During this time many of us are depressing about bitcoin price , and I think holding is the best solution to avoid any regrets and dissapointments. If you really want to achive that specific profit then you have to wait and believe. Its just not only holding but it is also risking.
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November 08, 2018, 04:21:51 PM
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I think if all investors want to keep their bitcoin. The market will be stable in price. The volatility is so low that it loses its attractiveness and does not attract much investment attention. If investors have to wait too long for a stable price, they will not be profitable. I think they will feel depressed and sell bitcoin at low prices causing the market to go down. So we need to balance supply and demand in the market, which will increase bitcoin prices.

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November 08, 2018, 04:29:38 PM
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Ok lets face it. We are all here in Bitcointalk because we believe in crypto, and we do believe that Bitcoin will surely make a bull run a few months from now.

No matter what happened Bitcoin will go up. If you are gambler, you can just sell all your Bitcoins now and wait for the Bitcoin to drop more so you gain profit when the Bitcoin price goes up.
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November 08, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
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It depends at what price you bought bitcoin because if you are a daily user of bitcoin the fall in price may not have deep impact on you holding, but if you are an investor that bought bitcoin during the bull run then seeing the price depreciating you will worry about it. But holding may have little to do when the demand is not there so is not holding that improve the price of bitcoin but demands for the commodity is what have direct impact on the market price.
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November 08, 2018, 09:01:41 PM
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I think holding is not really a solution. It is maybe a good strategy on this dip. I believe that the price is always depending on the investors or maybe big investors maybe invest on bitcoin and also price is always depend on the trust of the bitcoin users in crypto. We really need to hold on dip to avoid lossing butvit will not really help the price to rise.
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November 08, 2018, 09:31:50 PM
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I don't think holding is only way to stop of dropping BTC price. According to my thought I think the price depends on how many people invests on it. So investors is truly a big fact in this matters.So investing more can be a solution also. But no one should sell it on a low price. Unless you have profit you should hold BTC.

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November 08, 2018, 11:29:16 PM
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well HODL is not just a word, it is an art Wink

it is not about that everyone should HODL but those newbies who have no idea how to  trade should HODL because not doing so means losing a lot of money. and most of the memes you see on the internet is focusing on this particular group of people. because not HODLing during these small ups and downs in a sideways market means losing money for them and it has happened so many times already. and they are increasing the volatility!
Holding can also means losing a lot of money if the asset one is holding is dump and the holder become a bagholder. HOlding depends on the asset ,whether the asset has a long prospect but not just any coins.

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November 08, 2018, 11:40:06 PM
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Yes I really agree on this issue  that holding is also one of the solution in the dropping of bitcoin price because the law of demand and supply will apply to this issue so if there's a little supply of bitcoin in the crypto market then probably it's demand or market price will also soar high that's why many of our crypto enthusiast decides to hold their bitcoins and other crypto currencies.
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Yes I really agree on this issue  that holding is also one of the solution in the dropping of bitcoin price because the law of demand and supply will apply to this issue so if there's a little supply of bitcoin in the crypto market then probably it's demand or market price will also soar high that's why many of our crypto enthusiast decides to hold their bitcoins and other crypto currencies.
Well i think.there is no direct explanation or maybe evidences that holding will really make the price rise, but there are so many people really believe that holding is one of the great solution on the dropping of coin price. In my part I really believe that investors is one of the most common factors that influence the price if we all holding and no one invest or buy what will maybe the outcome? So I think investors can really make the price rise also with holders.
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Holding is one of the ways for investors to protect their investment and the market as well when the market goes down. Selling when the market goes down only depreciate the market value further. However, holding is not the solution to the bear market. Creating more awareness to attract new investors in order to raise more buy orders than sell orders is the solution to bear market.

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November 09, 2018, 04:44:04 AM
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Maybe we can say it does and there will be always a not a total solution. Bitcoin is circulating. There should be a demand and supply relationship for it to have a value in the market. Better say that we should buy more and keep that buying keep on going. Hoarding of bitcoin is not adviseable. It will just stay in your wallet without the ability to circulate. Maybe keeping it in sometime is good and selling it to the best price is very good. Maybe the term "hold" is used for keeping the coins safe for a meantime to avoid dump in the first phase of it.
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November 09, 2018, 05:46:03 AM
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Actually holding can't never solutions in this market situation but it will give our more profitable.but lot of people can be take hold their future benefits. Basically countinue buy and sell increased Bitcoin supply.so don't forget real Bitcoin users because they are Don't look Bitcoin price.buy,sell they are countinue work.
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November 09, 2018, 05:52:39 AM
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4,000,000 Bitcoins which were purchased before 2011 for $100 or $200, will be sold.
Then after what will happen?another dip since it will make the value lower?
Hodling is not the right action to treat bitcoin for growth,ibut this will help the value dont go down deep because atleast there will still a market capitalizations

I don’t know but I’m not selling a single coin, I’d better go to full zero than I’ll give the coins now, I didn’t take them for that, I must forget about five years, I’m not selling!
Well thats a good perspective mate,i really love the attitude when people here saying thathey don’t care even if the value turns zero,whats important is the trust for cryptocurrencies
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November 09, 2018, 07:32:41 AM
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I think, holding at least will make the price of bitcoin will not become even lower because the price of bitcoin depends on demand and supply, so if many hold and stop selling, the price will stabilize, even if many will buy then the price will definitely go up again

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November 09, 2018, 08:07:28 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.


this is very difficult to hold or trade, or sell.
we cannot predict because the market has a market turnover between buyers and sellers and limited supply.
 I agreed we were all holding, but that would not happen because everyone has differences in every speculation.

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November 09, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
this is very difficult to hold or trade, or sell.
we cannot predict because the market has a market turnover between buyers and sellers and limited supply.
 I agreed we were all holding, but that would not happen because everyone has differences in every speculation.
personal patience must be taken into account and if indeed you cannot adjust to your needs, then you have the right to sell it.

But if indeed you do not mind to keep holding until the conditions turn around there are a number of steps you can minimize including cutloss and targeting several altcoins that have attractive price developments in the short term.

Daily profits must also be taken into account because we cannot believe 100% of something that is passive and has not received regulations.

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November 09, 2018, 10:43:41 AM
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The crypto market is coupled with volatility and that should tell us that all things shall not be the same even if we hold or sell there will be seasons our holding will not mater and so though might help but not the key to that issue of helping in prices of bitcoin.

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November 09, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
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Hold is the only solution if you aren't sure of what you will gonna do to your bitcoin. This could be the perfect thing to do to see the possibility to come most specially when bitcoin recover again. If you hold it you won't lose it because it is still yours but if you will sell that is not yours anymore.

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November 09, 2018, 10:19:48 PM
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I apply this principle to hold my coins if the price is not good enough to give me profits as I don't want to sell it in a losing price then buy back at bottom. Buying at bottom is not easy due to unpredictable market. Although I believe that holding is not a solution to stop the bleeding but it will avoid to add more drop. The only proven solution to stop the drop is to increase the buy support if you have enough funds.
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November 09, 2018, 11:42:12 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
To drop? No, it will not drop once there are many holders. Imagine in a market, every supplier that hoards the product will sell it when the price goes up. They hoard it because there is a scarce resource and if other producers left 0 to their products, the tendency is rising of the price. Same as with cryptocurrency.
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November 09, 2018, 11:50:45 PM
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HODL is one part of it
the other part is ADOPTION
if there is more adoption, prices will rise
and the other part is REGULATIONS
this is the worst part that makes prices fall
if no more REGULATIONS then this nightmare will end

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November 11, 2018, 08:52:10 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

It's not.
Actually selling is what make btc price drops.
Selling mean lower demand and if demand go lower the price will go lower also

A lot of factors affect the price of Bitcoin. Yes, the more time people hold BTC, the more chances that it will not fall critically exist but holding is not the main factor here, of course.
It's about finding the best strategy that works for you and understanding how to play the game smartly. The crash in price is not only dependent on HODLing, there are various factors that can affect its price. Technical analysis strategies involving the study of price and volume patterns of charts can work well, but they require skill and practice to master.
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November 11, 2018, 10:12:00 AM
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I donot think so, the person who is investing in any market related trading he make some planning before investment and eveyone wants to earn profit by investing. but the bitcoin  market is so volatile that no one can assume the coming price. Every investor have his own capacity to hold or sell , the investor take decision with keep in mind his own capacity. my opinion is make diversify investment , donot invest all your money at the same price , keep your money for that situation when the market is dead red, invest your balance amount and make your purchasing average with courage, donot panic.

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November 11, 2018, 09:39:57 PM
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If the number of offers with the sale of bitcoin will decrease and everyone will hold, then the rest will gradually raise the price, and as a result the price of bitcoin will gradually grow upwards. Naturally there will not be sharp jumps, and it will be difficult to make a profit from day trading. But in general, the situation for bitcoin will improve.
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November 12, 2018, 02:06:59 AM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.

Partially yes if you intend to make a lot of profit for yourself. Basically, you hodl because you want to sell your bitcoins at a better price. We wait for a better price to come out before we sell. This allows someone to spike up the price therefore helping the whole market to start priming up for another bitcoin price increase. All it takes is a lot of hodling and one ballsy person who would sell their bitcoins at a high price.

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November 12, 2018, 12:16:50 PM
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For me, holding BTC for a long time is a choice for you to make, I am not literally holding bitcoins but I have a wallet and stored BTC there for like years now and I am using it as my primary funds If I need money, I will surely withdraw to fiat to support my financial needs. But still, I think its vice versa for all holders. And holding should give a little effect on BTC price I guess.

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November 12, 2018, 01:32:11 PM
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Maybe you are right to say holding truly the solution to drop of btc price but on other end that the supply and demand manged the price of the currency so it must be rotating and dealing all of them.
this is the original nature of digital currencies that can change at any time. I think this is not a problem for the future because I know prices will go down and rise. I only take advantage of opportunities, prices go down to buy and prices go up to sell. this is how I work for profit.

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November 12, 2018, 02:07:20 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
Every minute there will be a transaction created mostly comes from those day traders that riding on the current prices to get their profits. When the market is bleeding we can't help it even if we will hold our coins because of the momentum or bulk of sell orders. Although it gives us hope that we can minimize the damage since we keep our coins but not all of us we follow this strategy. I'm holding because I'm waiting for the best price.
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November 12, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
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I think holding is truly the solution to drop bitcoin price because all we know that bitcoin is like a merchandising product. We need to circulate well the bitcoin to make profit. And the time we store or hold our product our profit will stop. So in terms of bitcoin if we hold bitcoin the price will drop or fall because if we did not buy another stocks and only hold your coin no more income will circulate in bitcoin management so how can bitcoin rise it's value when all stock is not moving. But I did not blame to those who are holding their coin now because we see the value of bitcoin now and it is lower than past few months and I know most of them are bought their bitcoin in higher price so they are waiting to bitcoin will rise again before to use it to prevent loss.

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November 12, 2018, 06:04:57 PM
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I mostly see a lot of post skirting about the issue of decrease in bitcoin market price by saying hodl, hodl of which i mostly do not get them. Assuming we all decide to hodl without any transaction that means with time btc will drain and what will be the essence of the coin. We should always be a family to embrace the state of price no matter what and ensure buying and selling in order to at least have a significant effect on market price. I hodl, you hodl and we all hodl and btc will drain just like that.
You have point here, I don't think selling of bitcoin is the reason why bitcoin price is down rather I will say people are trying to manipulate bbitcoin so they can get in or buy more. Take a good look at 2017 do people nnot sell bitcoin but that don't not hold the price not to raise, so holding of bitcoin is not the solution to bitcoin price raise.
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November 12, 2018, 07:29:05 PM
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In my opinion, holding for a long time is not the right solution. Imagine if all crypto currency players only hold crypto currencies, the crypto currency market can actually die. If we only hold then there is no movement in the market. Supply and demand activities on the market will stop. This situation will only aggravate the market situation. A good solution is we temporarily hold on and besides that we think of a strategy to restore market conditions. That means we are not always a passive player who just holds on and waits for change. We should not wait for changes but we must make changes.
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November 12, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
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Yes if we hold this for the mean time because the price is too low for now to sell i thinks is the best solution is to hold and sell it when the price will rise it is an investment. Its like a old coin they based how value is it. Holding btc is a good thing to increase its price, as the more btc in hands of us, the less btc in the market.

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November 12, 2018, 11:44:34 PM
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Holding is not the solution to the price of any commodity, there must be supply whichhwill must be met with demand, maybe more demand than supply to effectively influence the price.
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November 13, 2018, 01:15:28 AM
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In this bear market, i think its not good for selling our bitcoin. Holding our bitcoin is good decision because we reducing supply in market and i am believe on market mechanism that price determined by supply and demand.
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November 13, 2018, 01:37:29 AM
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I apply this principle to hold my coins if the price is not good enough to give me profits as I don't want to sell it in a losing price then buy back at bottom. Buying at bottom is not easy due to unpredictable market. Although I believe that holding is not a solution to stop the bleeding but it will avoid to add more drop. The only proven solution to stop the drop is to increase the buy support if you have enough funds.
What if you don't have the remaining funds? holding is not the only way to solve the drop price. because one coin can continue to drop and die. and holding will be useless? the most important thing is to choose a choice that is in accordance with the real situation in the market. when prices continue to decline then sell and buy at a price below. that sounds good plan
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