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May 12, 2014, 06:45:22 PM |
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Hi Lion,
thanks for a prompt reply. I actually browsed a bit on the zeit-coin.com forum after asking my question and found all info provided by you in the scratch-pad section (under shaping the future). My 2 cents, for what is worth, maybe some additional info about current ideas and mini-projects that were launched could be released weekly on twitter and facebook to faster reach more people. Whereas I like browsing forums, tweeting not only technical must-do things would quickly reach 2k+ people. I saw in the comments that you currently look for a 'press officer' that would be responsible for providing such info - this could be a nice addition to the to-do list. You could also ask tweeter followers for an immediate feedback on the ideas.
Yes, thanks Lion! And my apologies for not answering your question right away, uki. I'm at work right now and am not able to monitor the thread constantly. And thanks for the suggestions as well. |
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May 12, 2014, 06:55:00 PM |
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This week - time to pump it's not joke ....  |
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solarion
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May 12, 2014, 08:34:39 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done.  Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. |
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May 12, 2014, 09:28:01 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done. Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. LOL +1 (millisecond ) "Oh Lord, grant unto me that great gift of patience - but do it NOW!!!"" |
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May 12, 2014, 09:41:46 PM |
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Just got the go-ahead to let you phreaks have a shufti at the beta market too:- http://beta.cryptobid.orgDon't get TOO carried away, you can't checkout at those prices |
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rbizz
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May 12, 2014, 09:42:35 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done. Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. This really has nothing to do with Zeitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot of positive things going for it, so there is good reason to believe that patience will pay off. I think most people here believe that about Bitcoin. For Ziet, to just say "have patience," is ridiculous unless there is a solid reason to justify having patience. Right now an auction site hardly seems like justification. It's been done for several other coins. It doesn't have a dramatic effect on price and there is typically very low traffic on those sites (ex blkroad.com). |
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May 12, 2014, 09:45:35 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done. Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. This really has nothing to do with Zeitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot of positive things going for it, so there is good reason to believe that patience will pay off. I think most people here believe that about Bitcoin. For Ziet, to just say "have patience," is ridiculous unless there is a solid reason to justify having patience. Right now an auction site hardly seems like justification. It's been done for several other coins. It doesn't have a dramatic effect on price and there is typically very low traffic on those sites (ex blkroad.com). It has everything to do with it. Bitcoin is SIX YEARS OLD. Zeitcoin is ALMOST three months old. |
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rbizz
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May 12, 2014, 10:05:17 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done. Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. This really has nothing to do with Zeitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot of positive things going for it, so there is good reason to believe that patience will pay off. I think most people here believe that about Bitcoin. For Ziet, to just say "have patience," is ridiculous unless there is a solid reason to justify having patience. Right now an auction site hardly seems like justification. It's been done for several other coins. It doesn't have a dramatic effect on price and there is typically very low traffic on those sites (ex blkroad.com). It has everything to do with it. Bitcoin is SIX YEARS OLD. Zeitcoin is ALMOST three months old. That's exactly why you can't compare the two. |
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solarion
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May 12, 2014, 10:27:48 PM |
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Here's a relevant cross post: The funny thing about Bitcoin is that it does require a bit of patience to make some profits, but compared to most investments it really requires very little! Just hold for a year or so and that is all it takes to do pretty well. Unfortunately we are getting near to the end of a consolidation period so now is the most painful and hardest time to be in Bitcoin. The Summer will most likely be much more enjoyable, and less painful for those that have a hard time waiting longer than a few minutes for some good gains. BitChick classing up the place, showing how it's done. Can you pls then teach these immature 'boys' on this forum how to hold their wad for more than 5 friggin' minutes? Lol. I'm so glad I'm not part of this stupid "GenY-ADHD-things-aren't-happening-fast-enough-something-gotta-be-happening-every-second-or-life-sucks-oh-snap-something-big-going-down-on-Twitter" generation. #millenialsaredoomed I had a professor in college, and this was over a decade ago, mention that he had to change the way he even taught because students could no longer stay focused for an hour long class. He had to break it up with stories and other creative teaching tactics. He was a great teacher and I enjoyed his style, but it was interesting that he noticed a change. Also, most students have difficulty even reading entire books anymore. So I agree that the younger generation struggles with patience and are generally a bit more ADHD. This desire for instant gratification should help help spur Bitcoin's longterm success though. It makes sending money internationally more "instant" for example. This really has nothing to do with Zeitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot of positive things going for it, so there is good reason to believe that patience will pay off. I think most people here believe that about Bitcoin. For Ziet, to just say "have patience," is ridiculous unless there is a solid reason to justify having patience. Right now an auction site hardly seems like justification. It's been done for several other coins. It doesn't have a dramatic effect on price and there is typically very low traffic on those sites (ex blkroad.com). It has everything to do with it. Bitcoin is SIX YEARS OLD. Zeitcoin is ALMOST three months old. That's exactly why you can't compare the two. k. You'll have to use smaller words or something...not gittin it. |
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stevegreer
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May 12, 2014, 10:48:47 PM |
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rbizz, I just don't get it man. You have managed to do nothing but post negative things about Zeitcoin. You really seem to be nit picking at this point. We have brought several things to your attention and you have downplayed all of them. Again I will say, if you are so unhappy with Zeit and are only interested in immediate profit then dump and move along.
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May 12, 2014, 11:08:11 PM |
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Hi guys Good convo going on while I've been busy re-jigging my miners for maximum efficiency. Just to keep you all 'in the loop' as it were, one of our first major innovations is already in the closed-beta stage & will ROCK YOUR WORLD when online... It's a ZeitCoin-biased version of 'fleabay' being developed by a couple of guys who met up & started co-operating thanks to the forum. Here's a sneaky screenie of my putative shopping cart....  *Oh! if only I could buy those things at those prices right fucking now!* Other things on the near-horizon include:- Machine-stitched ZeitCoin patches in at least 3 versions PATCHES THREADVinyl ZeitCoin stickers, both sticky-down (for surfaces) & sticky-up (for car, shop & home windows) STICKERS THREADA fancy new block explorer with oodles of useful stats features & plenty more good stuff in the pipeline - re-launching our own multi-pool with SHA-256 support is the big one I suppose. NO-ONE is just sitting back & waiting for things to happen ... EXCEPT for the whiners here who want everything done for them & won't even get into a convo about the 'way forwards'. Bumping this coz all the FUD has (as fucking usual!) swamped the posts people really need to hear about... ... plus there's one more thing to add to the "coming soon" list:- Beautifully-crafted, precision-minted "collectors item" REAL ZeitCoins in a variety of metals up to & including GOLD. I'd also like to add - a hell of a lot of work is being put into promoting the movement to places WAY beyond this den of vipers, just coz you don't know about it in detail doesn't mean it isn't at least as important as keeping you lot informed. OK, it's MUCH more important. There are a couple of thousand of you, tops. There are another SEVEN BILLION out there who will help make ZeiCoin the natural replacement for 'money'. If you don't see that - well all I can do is pray for you. Even as you prey on anyone you can make a quick buck off. |
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May 12, 2014, 11:23:44 PM |
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Store is a good thing. Just a friendly advice - read GPUCoin thread (approximately 2 weeks after launch) about how not to run store. Also I recommend to give a chat with hendr1x who's the developer of store, he might give some good advice. Good thing that price is already low, so store could work.
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rbizz
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May 12, 2014, 11:45:42 PM |
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rbizz, I just don't get it man. You have managed to do nothing but post negative things about Zeitcoin. You really seem to be nit picking at this point. We have brought several things to your attention and you have downplayed all of them. Again I will say, if you are so unhappy with Zeit and are only interested in immediate profit then dump and move along.
An honest critique is not negative. This community likes to talk about ideals, but often has very little proof of any innovation. When someone points out these flaws everyone gets upset. This conversation has actually prompted some people to provide a little transparency, which is very much appreciated. |
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stevegreer
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May 13, 2014, 12:12:08 AM |
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An honest critique is not negative. This community likes to talk about ideals, but often has very little proof of any innovation. When someone points out these flaws everyone gets upset. This conversation has actually prompted some people to provide a little transparency, which is very much appreciated.
And again let it be said that Zeitcoin is only 3 months old. What do you expect to happen in that short of a time? You want innovation? It's going to take time. Of course people get upset when you point out "flaws." There are a few people here who have devoted a lot of time and energy into doing things for this coin and the community such as improving wallets, getting us listed on exchanges and setting up multipools, advertising, and building the store. You really think people won't be a little offended if someone who has done essentially nothing comes in and criticizes it? If you were involved with this more and had a hand in getting these things set up and someone came in and pointed out only negative things you would be the same way. |
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May 13, 2014, 02:31:23 AM |
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The fact is that the only trades that appeared to make some volume on mintpal are panic sell trades. And this could lead people to completely give up on this coin if we get back to 1 sat (not concerned, i'm in for the long term)
Long term? That's something hard to imagine in the crypto world. In 5 years all the cryptos might be extinct and a new type replacing them. So , how do you define longterm?
This is not about being impatient nervous anxious hurry or whatever you want to call.
It's about taking risks and that there are real possibilities of losing everything!!!
From input, investing in crypto currencies is much riskier to invest in shares of stock, or deposit money in a bank. And long-term risk grows even more abysmally!
If China decides to fight more strongly against BTC and altcoins, and most important countries to join in this sense soon the BTC will be worthless! And our wallet of BTC and ZEIT could be a nice entertainment for the kids to play...
Or not recall that recently BTC was worth $ 1200 and is now worth about 400, and in a few months it might be 50, and in a year could be worth nothing!
The long term risks for cryptocoins, are abysmal! |
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May 13, 2014, 05:21:58 AM |
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The long term risks for cryptocoins, are abysmal![/size]
 Cryptoworld is always risky. Where is the problem? As an example - in germany the Bitcoin is officially accepted as private money since august 2013. China cannot destroy any cc. They can modify the market price, that's it. |
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May 13, 2014, 05:29:32 AM |
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I havent heard any replies about not being able to sync on client. its been over a day since i updated and i cannot sync even though i have connections There have been numerous replies to those having this issue, both here and on the zeit forums. Backup your wallet and delete your blockchain files. Ray suggested a couple pages back that their could be issues with case sensitivity on some OSs. I've never had any problem syncing the Zeitcoin wallet, so I'm unable to offer any first hand experience. While having a online shop could be good thing to help promote Zeit PLEASE tell me that its not just going to sell goods that help sustain a consumer based economy, and that it will be selling goods and services that will help in the main ethos of this coin and that is a RBE TVs and trainers l can get any were. we need to sell things that are sustainable and eco friendly, If we only sell consumer products on the site. How is that working towards a RBE |
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May 13, 2014, 05:51:06 AM |
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I havent heard any replies about not being able to sync on client. its been over a day since i updated and i cannot sync even though i have connections There have been numerous replies to those having this issue, both here and on the zeit forums. Backup your wallet and delete your blockchain files. Ray suggested a couple pages back that their could be issues with case sensitivity on some OSs. I've never had any problem syncing the Zeitcoin wallet, so I'm unable to offer any first hand experience. While having a online shop could be good thing to help promote Zeit PLEASE tell me that its not just going to sell goods that help sustain a consumer based economy, and that it will be selling goods and services that will help in the main ethos of this coin and that is a RBE TVs and trainers l can get any were. we need to sell things that are sustainable and eco friendly, If we only sell consumer products on the site. How is that working towards a RBE Not sure why you quoted this comment to makes such a post. Why complain about what someone chooses to include in a website beta? If you don't approve of their website then make your own website and use it to sell whatever you like. |
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May 13, 2014, 06:03:42 AM |
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The long term risks for cryptocoins, are abysmal!
Cryptoworld is always risky. Where is the problem? As an example - in germany the Bitcoin is officially accepted as private money since august 2013. China cannot destroy any cc. They can modify the market price, that's it. The problem (for what I see) is that many here minimize the high risks existing, and i see them very confident with their long-term plans. And I think that may be very mistaken, because you can be staking long term, a irretrievable coin, if we not do something now, urgently! |
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