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April 06, 2020, 09:47:13 PM
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You claimed Energi was an exit scam and inflated the price to sell. Well, you showed your flawed information because the treasury funds aren't on the market. That's why I say you are doing nothing but lying. You show it with those posts and your false claims.

1 - Not on the tech side but it is visible for everyone to see and we are very transparent.
2 - Inflation drops constantly as has already been explained but you choose to ignore this repeatedly.
3 - Blocked deposits already explained but you ignore that as well.
4 - Spreading negativity just to spread negativity and your false information you were trying to spread was the reason for removal. You were not trying to have a conversation, you were completely ignoring anything that did not fit what you wanted it to.
5 - Volume on exchanges is not in Energi's control so no idea why you even bring that up.
6 - This is your claim and it really makes no sense. Care to bring forward some evidence other than just your random "deposits don't work (but they do if you bribe the exchange)" claims? Since that has been explained repeatedly, there is no more to be said about it other than because you believe something, it doesn't make it fact.

I have answered your questions and you will proceed to ignore it so I am done with you. Your lies, accusations (without any proof of course) and your unwillingness to consider anything that doesn't fit exactly what you want (proven repeatedly) tells me it is a waste of time to respond any more.

Good bye

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April 06, 2020, 09:59:01 PM
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I will also add (since I have a minute), you already said you are back on Discord through a VPN so you are aware there was a problem today that tech is working on. This 100% justifies why deposits are closed yet you ignore this important fact when you post whatever you want people to believe.

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April 07, 2020, 09:39:44 AM
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1- not on the tech side? you can clearly see on github whan your "developers" did was change the name  Wink (i attached some printscreens as your required proof)
Here is the copy from dash   https://ibb.co/fdwqjmm
here is the copy from eth     https://ibb.co/z6RDwfZ

2-my math was taking into consideration the inflation drop as it was a % base of the total supply at the moment (i posted my math here again as proof)
Here is my math again..      https://ibb.co/H2XC1Qk

(if anything about my math is unclear please let me know and i can help you understand it)

3-blocked deposits are clearly NOT blocked as i have explained to you (can attach proof of my deposits to kucoin if required)

4-yes i was trying to have a rational discussion and most users on the discord were engaging with my posts (my math) and asking questions.. and shortly after mr tommy came and insulted me after i got banned for posting facts..

5- is it not? wow  Shocked  you clearly need some educating then...

6- well if there is NO supply becouse deposits are blocked on the exchanges, with how much advertising you guys are doing at the moment, demand goes up as people are getting tricked into buying more nrg, cmc is taking the current price on exchanges and multiplying it for the current supply to determine the market cap of nrg therefor making the rank of nrg go up.. (not sure what proof is required to make you and everyone else see this..) a good way to make what you guys are doing now would be to suspend trading of nrg during this "security fix" *COUGH COUGH* EXIT SCAM/PRICE MANIPULATION


hopefully i opened the eyes for some users!

as you said dont bother answering me if you dont bring facts!

have a good day
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April 07, 2020, 10:06:22 AM
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1- not on the tech side? you can clearly see on github whan your "developers" did was change the name  Wink (i attached some printscreens as your required proof)
Here is the copy from dash   https://ibb.co/fdwqjmm
here is the copy from eth     https://ibb.co/z6RDwfZ

2-my math was taking into consideration the inflation drop as it was a % base of the total supply at the moment (i posted my math here again as proof)
Here is my math again..      https://ibb.co/H2XC1Qk

(if anything about my math is unclear please let me know and i can help you understand it)

3-blocked deposits are clearly NOT blocked as i have explained to you (can attach proof of my deposits to kucoin if required)

4-yes i was trying to have a rational discussion and most users on the discord were engaging with my posts (my math) and asking questions.. and shortly after mr tommy came and insulted me after i got banned for posting facts..

5- is it not? wow  Shocked  you clearly need some educating then...

6- well if there is NO supply becouse deposits are blocked on the exchanges, with how much advertising you guys are doing at the moment, demand goes up as people are getting tricked into buying more nrg, cmc is taking the current price on exchanges and multiplying it for the current supply to determine the market cap of nrg therefor making the rank of nrg go up.. (not sure what proof is required to make you and everyone else see this..) a good way to make what you guys are doing now would be to suspend trading of nrg during this "security fix" *COUGH COUGH* EXIT SCAM/PRICE MANIPULATION


hopefully i opened the eyes for some users!

as you said dont bother answering me if you dont bring facts!

have a good day




You Are VERY BIG IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Shut Up and Go Away! Wink
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April 08, 2020, 06:45:12 PM
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Version 3.0.5 of the Energi Core node software is now available

This is a mandatory upgrade and must be completed as soon as possible. If you used our easy set-up script to install your VPS you can simply rerun the script to upgrade.

If you need assistance, please contact support@energi.team or use our live chat feature on our wiki page. Remember to ONLY use resources available on our wiki page: https://docs.energi.software/

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April 10, 2020, 08:16:30 PM
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deposits still closed?

you better bribe the exchanges to get your nrg in guys Cheesy
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April 10, 2020, 10:30:00 PM
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OMG!!!!!!!!!


JUST LOOK AT THE ORDER BOOK ON KUCOIN!!!!!

ITS THE MOST FAKE S*** I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!

EVERYONE PLEASE BRIBE THE EXCHANGES TO GET YOUR DEPOSITS IN!! GET RID OF THIS FAKE PROJECT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!



THANK ME LATER
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April 12, 2020, 03:51:04 PM
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you post anything HONEST about them anywhere they control you get instantly banned and your comments deleted..
try it guys Cheesy make your own research and try to talk to their comunity!

i hope energi burns to the ground!

its the new bitconnect
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April 12, 2020, 07:04:17 PM
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From Energi Impact Staying confined doesn't mean standing still

Listen to Energi Impact's advice to move whenever you can, and make sure your body's getting enough exercise during self-isolation.

https://twitter.com/Energicrypto/status/1248978896978096129

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April 16, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
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My name is Andrey Galkin and I am the creator of Energi Gen 3.

I can testify that there is no technical justification to keep NRG deposits closed. The official justification was to fight scammers at migration time, but all stolen funds are blocked & in recovery process, the majority of coins have migrated during the first week. More info on the features & current problems: https://medium.com/@andvgal/cryptocurrency-of-the-3rd-generation-lessons-learned-2f36d18587f

I wanted to get as much distant from Energi Core as possible as I got fed up with Tommy's personal issues, I have left as calmly as possible and prepared the Technology department to operate in my absence, but I offered support of the software when I was leaving. I have even offered to release v3.1.0 for FREE when I saw Energi Core impotence to fix arising issues. I have been offering my support to Tommy and Ryan FOR FREE, but Energi Core has rejected all my proposals, because they are interested in keeping the deposits closed. It is a new form of scam IMO.

I have been SCAMMED as any other Energi user. All exchanges obey the orders of Energi Core - I have contacted some of them today to confirm. Even CoinEx has closed deposits, but it has added NRG by their own discretion and was the only one accepting deposits for some time. Even with some now rare arising chainsplits, it would be possible to accept deposits with 1000-2000 confirmations, but they do not allow even that on purpose. Freshly issued dynamic checkpoints still work as they have only broken handshake checkpoints with zero testing of the changes after v3.0.2.

I already have a working node software with even more fixes than I have identified in the article, but Energi Core rejects any help.

Meanwhile, the trading have not been stopped. Worse, I am more than sure that exchanges accept manual deposits from Energi Core to keep up in the CMC list. Some of them did not even have Gen 2 funds.
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April 16, 2020, 06:56:22 PM
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Your article is banned from being spoken about on Discord ... could you elaborate your post script about Tommy being a "king" and the paid motivators?
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April 16, 2020, 09:11:23 PM
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Your article is banned from being spoken about on Discord ... could you elaborate your post script about Tommy being a "king" and the paid motivators?

It is banned on Discord and our other platforms because it is FUD and full of inaccuracies and outright lies.

Energi - Cryptocurrency for world adoption.
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Re NDA, I won't repeat myself. I have no limits in what I can tell as far as it is in the interest of the public.

1. Why this is happening?

We are in the middle of a scam event. I was contacting Energi Core every day to exit this situation, but too much is at stake for them. It's not about Ego or Pride issues of their leaders, it's about the scam plot. They are not going to open deposits while BTC is low. They do not want to spend own BTC to sustain price in dumps, but they do want to use market made NRG price to buy BTC at low. They use their contractual influence on exchanges to block users completely, but a high confirmation count would be an adequate measure.

All people responsible for that are US citizens. They have to obey US law even while they hide abroad. What they do seems to be a violation of the US law, SEC rules and regulations.

2. What about Energi Core deposits?

This is public info. Some addresses have been previously identified by me and reported to Energi Core, but not vice-versa - everyone can repeat.

2.1. Gen 2 trace:

- Gen 2 Explorer
- Efe1DsD6AW6wikmcugQseTwr6NBT99GvrV is Treasury in Gen 2 as tagged inside the explorer
- EU57hLbBi6ucDy4KnRSVNKhkD9F39XpQ4Z is former KuCoin cold wallet in Gen 2
- EMyLLKDimrvz1iSjiMBnGMZiN6Es3heFfE is former KuCoin hot wallet in Gen 2
- EdcCKyMMKo71NSE3MjamNYWiFwuyfJdCfe is the main Energi deposit address at KuCoin - deducible from the history
- EKtrfi6RfRR9NcyrKGFMFt7URYQRMhQThR - assumed to be Energi Market team wallet which directly leads to the Treasury and the KuCoin deposit address.
- Total of 760703 NRG passed through it since Sep 2019. Some part of that was relocation between exchanges.
- 200k NRG went out of the Treasury to the account before the Gen 3 migration: txs Feb 21st and Feb 28th.
- Partially, they got deposited in small chunks into KuCoin not to attract much attention: txs in Feb, then Mar 4th and Mar 5th
- Exchanges were ordered to close deposits on Friday, Mar 6th. Coincidence?
- There are myriads of related interesting addresses, but let's keep our focus on one single case of the left over in a change address of the Mar 5th deposit: 55k NRG @  EcdqbExHQ3GxtfbCgwtChK3SyQqygcY2XR left during the migration.

Comments: I know that there was an internal discussion to withdraw funds from exchanges not to jeopardize them during migration, but then someone has overridden that. Someone knew that the deposits will be closed for much longer. Someone ordered to deposit much larger amounts than usually allocated for that purposes. Also, it's possible to correlate the account activity with market price in the end of 2019.

We only cover Energi Core company funds, and do not even start talking about personal funds.

2.2. Where did the remainings go during the migration?

Actually, one good thing Energi Core has done is to implement an API to look up performed migrations... And that has added a DoS vulnerability to the Public API endpoint.

Code:
> energi.searchGen3DestinationByGen2Address(['EcdqbExHQ3GxtfbCgwtChK3SyQqygcY2XR', 'Efe1DsD6AW6wikmcugQseTwr6NBT99GvrV'], true)
[{
    Amount: 5.503818773356e+22,
    Gen3Address: "0x0952d9b93fe79605e99132407bc3b0cc5c15ba9b",
    ItemID: 101777
}, {
    Amount: 6.578359470033e+22,
    Gen3Address: "0x60d7607fc1454de984441921f5aad0470d2b4962",
    ItemID: 117445
}]

So, 0x0952d9b93fe79605e99132407bc3b0cc5c15ba9b is one of the remaining of the Market funds and 0x60d7607fc1454de984441921f5aad0470d2b4962 is the new Operations Treasury from which expenses are paid.

2.3. Gen 3 trace:

- Gen 3 Explorer
- Coins got claimed in block 0x0952d9b93fe79605e99132407bc3b0cc5c15ba9b #74
- First, 30k NRG got withdrawn to the account from possibly KuCoin hot wallet 0x7F76c60b9323bf49241dEf2B456632096667C5fE on Mar 18th
- Then, a total of 85k got sent to possibly a new Energi Market wallet 0xa901c5bD7DC9894d9600843b3A8eD502437Ef4A1 on Mar 21st
- If you look closely at 0xa901c5bD7DC9894d9600843b3A8eD502437Ef4A1 transactions then you can notice an obvious pattern previously visible at Gen 2 Market fund EKtrfi6RfRR9NcyrKGFMFt7URYQRMhQThR
- Now, let's look at what looks like a deposit address 0x2D39B9177AfBEacF52518947539f79A77A0E0e25 with deposits done from the new Market fund on Apr 01 and Apr 03 to what looks like an exchange with address of for hot wallet 0x1242f8fb7B5cC1baE08DC9c71e2Ef07687579A3b and 0xcd31b17379648934C659cafB4b4398Cfa784FB88 cold wallet.
- Energi Core had to perform a second deposit because of this large sale - someone has bought a MN for 11k.

3. Conclusions

It is obvious that Energi Core has planned to keep the deposits closed while allowing withdrawals to decrease supply. It is obvious that they have done at least two deposits to an exchange from the market funds in Gen 3 chain. They have taken an advantage of the situation created by themselves and solely by themselves. Apparently, Energi Core means Fraud, Undeniable & Documented under FUD.

Officially, Energi Core positions self as a service provider for the decentralized autonomous organization - Energi Cryptocurrency. That is the reason they are not liable for any coins being lost in scams, user mistakes, etc. If they take responsibility on decision making then they take liability for any profit loss arising due to such decision.

IMO, that requires objective investigation and opinions. I am ready to witness for any plaintiff.

P.S. I withdraw my proposal for help to the "service provider" as Energi Core clearly threatened me and my family by Tommy's call in the middle of night asking if I love my family and telling how he is going to pursue me to destroy my life. He is mentally unstable and does stupid things for a head of an organization, he does not fit for a leader role in any serious one. However, this shows well how much "FUD" is in my statements.
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Finally, I waited this whole night, Energi Core has proven to misuse their authority. They have taken the power of court to seize personal property what is consider a crime in any civil country. To be prosecuted accordingly.

Anyone can use Energi Core Node console to confirm that:

Code:
> energi.blacklistInfo()
....
{
    blocked: true,
...
      proposal: "0x2b5a1defd4c801d2ca1d18f2c56e8c5283a04ab0",
      proposer: "0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc",
...
}, {
    blocked: true,
...
      proposal: "0x32eca46acd4873b98daa271789d6f2d4793d06ec",
      proposer: "0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc",
...
}, {
    blocked: true,
...
      proposal: "0x8842a3247dc35c01b0d9d993e314f252598f65b1",
      proposer: "0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc",
...
}, {
    blocked: true,
...
      proposal: "0x1074e9f07e62a09a3986f401e92128b1a4f1feb8",
      proposer: "0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc",
...
}]

Only Tommy and Ryan have access to the EBI private key: 0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc

Transactions to block:
- one
- two
- three
- four

Is there anyone who would trust these scammers now? They can seize coins of anyone they do not like.

P.S. I also see this as confirmation of the deposit scam.
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April 18, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
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as TWP post: "My opinions are not investment advice". just read on official TWP twitter.

After this, you scare me about, you seem a so skilled, why invest on NRG after all? Be rich after 1-2 years?

I've put some money on, not at 0.30$ BUT a lot more, about 6$ and martingale some, i know crypto are a fair game, but energi put real face on, so i've understand you are put ALL your money about NRG will rise at 100$ in 1 2 3... it's not how crypto space have to resolve our debit life.

Invest your knowledge to make our, after covid, a better place.

If when nrg collapse, no problem, it's better of my BANK. Cause i know about my crypto portfolio investing on, that simple.

Believe me, nobody paid me about this :-)

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NRG To the moon!  Grin

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April 19, 2020, 04:56:28 PM
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Our priority has always been the safety of our users, the security and stability of our network

To ensure this, exchange deposits are temporarily closed but will reopen as soon as we finish a thorough review and are confident of our network stability.

Check out the full announcement here:

https://medium.com/energi/important-update-exchange-deposits-8aad7a120b3e

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April 21, 2020, 08:07:38 AM
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Re-reading the logs of organized troll attacks which were scrolling quite fast in the public Discord channel:

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if you guys ever held real jobs, you would understand no company discloses bugs, issues, etc they are facing. But then there are sour patches who once they get fired they only show what they want to show to make others believers.
....

If you, Energi Core, wanted to tell that it's because of a security issue in the chain, then:

1. Why the hell don't you stop the chain immediately like it was done for Gen 2? It would simplify any hardforks right now.

2. Why your hysterical leader could not tell that directly instead of abusing and threatening for 58 minutes of mostly his monologue? Why I was blocked from everywhere afterwards without further explanations before the escalation continued? Very farsighted, very, dude. The threats have never been taken back.

3. It still does not excuse the total deposit of 35,000.00 NRG done from the Treasury funds. Or would there be a phony excuse that someone was stealing from the Treasury? Or maybe the Treasury has done OTC deal for a person who surprisingly could make a large deposit before the last exchange got closed? The pattern of deposits is obvious matching the demand to buy the coin.
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