closed

[smoothie]

Please cry more. Thanks.  

so?  are you happy?

nice

2 people are happy now about this situation

kumala and a moron like you

you must be proud!!!

Do I condone people getting scammed by others? NO

But do I think it is funny when people who do not do their homework and then send irreversable funds to an exchange where the owner is not well-known and in the limelight for all to see.

You may as well have given $1000+ to a random stranger on the street and said "PLEASE HOLD MY MONEY OKAY? I WILL BE RIGHT BACK TO GET IT IN A FEW WEEKS/MONTHS."

[xjpoper]

Please cry more. Thanks.  

so?  are you happy?

nice

2 people are happy now about this situation

kumala and a moron like you

you must be proud!!!

Do I condone people getting scammed by others? NO



But do I think it is funny when people who do not do their homework and then send irreversable funds to an exchange where the owner is not well-known and in the limelight for all to see.

You may as well have given $1000+ to a random stranger on the street and said "PLEASE HOLD MY MONEY OKAY? I WILL BE RIGHT BACK TO GET IT IN A FEW WEEKS/MONTHS."

Yes, you're right. But for trading BTC or other coins, most of exchanges are not transparent. There is high risk definitely.

[xjpoper]

Kumala is a scammer.

Obviously his lack to explain the losses (not from 2013) from 2014 and his silence are alarming.

The daily BTC volume traded is close to 0. Vircurex is going to die or at least not garner enough customers to pay off their debts/losses via trading fees.

how much you lost? I just think we could not wait for the trading fee, it doesn't work. We need find out the owner and get back coins. I'm in china, if someone can tell me where Kumla is, i will try my best to find out him.

[rock3tm4n]

I tried to withdraw about 1BTC two weeks ago, I got a transaction ID after about 1 week, but the transaction ID seems to be invalid and when I check the blockchain of the account I tried to transfer to, the transaction does not show up.

I tried to get in touch with the support and sent 5 mails already with not reply. Does anybody have an idea how to contact the support?

Hi guys, the support team replied after I sent another to or three mails they put the Bitcoin back to my balance. The reason and note from the support team was:

(...) from the bitcoin wallet I can see that we have submitted the transaction to the network, though it still shows 0 confirmations. This can happen occassionally and may take days to clear.
See this article for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232979.0

Having waited almost two weeks I assume it will never go into the blockchain, so I will credit you the amount into your account. you can then withdraw it again.

I think am going to trade or withdraw soon (I did not decide yet) and will let you know if that was working.
First of all I am happy that the support team answered and that my balance was corrected.

[shmoula]

so it looks like they're trying to sort out active ad inactive accounts? if you ask a few times, you get something back; and if you dont ask, they just keep the money?

[xjpoper]

I tried to withdraw about 1BTC two weeks ago, I got a transaction ID after about 1 week, but the transaction ID seems to be invalid and when I check the blockchain of the account I tried to transfer to, the transaction does not show up.

I tried to get in touch with the support and sent 5 mails already with not reply. Does anybody have an idea how to contact the support?

Hi guys, the support team replied after I sent another to or three mails they put the Bitcoin back to my balance. The reason and note from the support team was:

(...) from the bitcoin wallet I can see that we have submitted the transaction to the network, though it still shows 0 confirmations. This can happen occassionally and may take days to clear.
See this article for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232979.0

Having waited almost two weeks I assume it will never go into the blockchain, so I will credit you the amount into your account. you can then withdraw it again.

I think am going to trade or withdraw soon (I did not decide yet) and will let you know if that was working.
First of all I am happy that the support team answered and that my balance was corrected.

Let me try by daily mails

[rock3tm4n]

I withdrew the one bitcoin I had from Vircurey and it appeared in my wallet.
So it worked for me, but I was 4 weeks close to a heart attack. Whenever the NXT price is low, I might try out Vircurex once again.
Looks risky, but in the end might end up positive. 

Like one said after the gox issue: Bitcoin is still young, only a few years old. Looks how other currencies and exchanges service grew up, died and in the end only a few strong exchanges survived.   We'll see who this will be.

[medicine]

I withdrew the one bitcoin I had from Vircurey and it appeared in my wallet.
So it worked for me, but I was 4 weeks close to a heart attack. Whenever the NXT price is low, I might try out Vircurex once again.
Looks risky, but in the end might end up positive. 

Like one said after the gox issue: Bitcoin is still young, only a few years old. Looks how other currencies and exchanges service grew up, died and in the end only a few strong exchanges survived.   We'll see who this will be.

There are so many other exchanges out there with much better transparency,  better features, better support etc. Why on earth would you ever consider using this website again? Get over it, this website is untrustworthy.
peace

[mhps]

There are so many other exchanges out there with much better transparency,  better features, better support etc. Why on earth would you ever consider using this website again? Get over it, this website is untrustworthy.
peace

You never know. Who would have thought Gox , being what it seemed to be, did what it did? You are sure other exchanges are better? Vircurex has survived and is pretty high on the learning curve in being prepared for the worst. Kumala used to personally answer questions in details until the BTCUSD down turning starting from DEcember last year. When the BTCUSD becomes better again, with new waves and coins and players coming in, vircurex may just well come to life again, if it survives the winter.

[Pimpmycoin]

 You are sure other exchanges are better?

atm cryptsy, btce, bter ecc  haven't stolen coin from their users

Kumala yes, because kumala is a fucking scammer!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569037.0

[beitin]

a thousand thx

[bvoid]

Ok, what are the concrete steps we can undertake to find and identify this person?
I'm adding 1btc to the 450LTC bounty that Cheezhead raised earlier in this thread.

This is the information I got back from the WHOIS service at godaddy:

Domain Name: VIRCUREX.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1672064606_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2013-06-27 10:07:36
Creation Date: 2011-08-14 22:55:06
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-08-14 22:55:06
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: VIRCUREX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: VIRCUREX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: VIRCUREX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: CARL.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: ROSE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-5-20T11:00:00Z

[420]

thanks for the transparancy. I am one with some LTC frozen...

"
Update 5th May 2014
Payout to frozen accounts this month:
14.34 BTC
67.74 LTC
89.6 TRC
30.9 FTC

Total balances after the amounts have been distributed
BTC: 346 accounts with frozen amounts, total 1720 BTC
FTC: 42 accounts with frozen amounts, total 152,075 FTC
LTC: 2432 accounts with frozen amounts, total 124,917 LTC
TRC: 77 accounts with frozen amounts, total 127,746 TRC
"

[Pimpmycoin]

thanks for the transparancy. I am one with some LTC frozen...

"
Update 5th May 2014
Payout to frozen accounts this month:
14.34 BTC
67.74 LTC
89.6 TRC
30.9 FTC

Total balances after the amounts have been distributed
BTC: 346 accounts with frozen amounts, total 1720 BTC
FTC: 42 accounts with frozen amounts, total 152,075 FTC
LTC: 2432 accounts with frozen amounts, total 124,917 LTC
TRC: 77 accounts with frozen amounts, total 127,746 TRC
"

lol i have 165 ltc frozen

this is total payout to my account from frozen date (kumala scamming) 0.00215016 LTC

nice, at this point  i hope my life is more then 130 years

[Hippie Tech]

Why don't you guys just sue them and take it over ?

[Alphi]

Why don't you guys just sue them and take it over ?

bcos they are in china.. that might be a bit difficult.

[mhps]

Why don't you guys just sue them and take it over ?

Does anyone really want to take over Kumala's job?    Kumala could have just declared bankuptcy and go home (or start over again). But he chose to stick around and pay back. I give him credit for that.

People who have frozen funds can hope that 1) vicurex gets new investors who don't get discouraged by constant unconstructive complaining here and 2) a big surge of coin prices like the one last year to attract zillions of new comers who buy and trade coins to generate a lot more revenue.

[Hippie Tech]

Why don't you guys just sue them and take it over ?

bcos they are in china.. that might be a bit difficult.

Now I know.

Does anyone really want to take over Kumala's job?    Kumala could have just declared bankuptcy and go home (or start over again). But he chose to stick around and pay back. I give him credit for that.

People who have frozen funds can hope that 1) vicurex gets new investors who don't get discouraged by constant unconstructive complaining here and 2) a big surge of coin prices like the one last year to attract zillions of new comers who buy and trade coins to generate a lot more revenue.

He already has 2 strikes and I, for one, will not be giving him a chance at a third.

[Nightowlace]

Vircurex is dead, he saw what Mark did on Gox and figured well if it worked for him why not me? I lost 14B trading out of Vircurex. I had 600 LTC transferred into my Vircurex account hours prior to him announcing the lockdown. All of the what ifs, maybes, and other attempts are not going to happen. Making it look like he was stolen from, and pleading with the community to give him a "fair" chance to pay people back with trading fees was a bullshit attempt at trying to make himself look like he's not the bad guy.

It's over guys, we all got screwed, it's our own fault for trusting yet another exchange with a shady past and no transparency. 

[Pimpmycoin]

Vircurex is dead, he saw what Mark did on Gox and figured well if it worked for him why not me? I lost 14B trading out of Vircurex. I had 600 LTC transferred into my Vircurex account hours prior to him announcing the lockdown. All of the what ifs, maybes, and other attempts are not going to happen. Making it look like he was stolen from, and pleading with the community to give him a "fair" chance to pay people back with trading fees was a bullshit attempt at trying to make himself look like he's not the bad guy.

It's over guys, we all got screwed, it's our own fault for trusting yet another exchange with a shady past and no transparency. 

+1 

sad but true