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September 23, 2018, 04:49:25 AM
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I think the new rules is so strict. It is quite hard to get merits to become higher level.
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September 23, 2018, 06:20:54 AM
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YEAH !
Finally, I feel better!  ^

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September 23, 2018, 06:23:51 AM
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YEAH !
Finally, I feel better!  ;-^=



 Huh Posts:   3389 Huh an 1 Merit. this is really crazy.
I checked you post history and could not stand it. all these pictures. i did not try to read something you posted.

and I cant see the post that you got the merit for.
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September 23, 2018, 06:46:51 AM
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<...>and I cant see the post that you got the merit for.
This is the post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3284218.msg34358688#msg34358688

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September 23, 2018, 06:51:40 AM
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I am glad my Diamond Membership did not expire before these changes were implemented.

My single merit means I will never again be a newbie  Cool

In all seriousness, the amount of merit begging in this thread is hilarious, as is the number of spammers who have found themselves no longer able to earn money from posting nonsense around here.
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September 23, 2018, 07:18:45 AM
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This change is require because people are using multiple account for bounty. Also the threads get spamming. also People not hesitate to full people and promote scam project. If the trust get negative they make new accounts and can become Jr. member easily so they can spam or scam again. Because of that people already loose money. Which reduce trust on crypto community. Now I think the scam project will reduce in nos. So this new rule is healthier for crypto community.  
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September 23, 2018, 08:01:05 AM
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YEAH !
Finally, I feel better!  ;-^=



 Huh Posts:   3389 Huh an 1 Merit. this is really crazy.
I checked you post history and could not stand it. all these pictures. i did not try to read something you posted.

and I cant see the post that you got the merit for.


This is not a problem.
For example, if you are using firefox:

1. In Firefox’s browser address bar, type about:config and press Enter.

2. In the search bar below the address bar, scroll down and search for permissions.default.image

3. Double click on the row and hange the integer value to 2


source:
https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/64881/how-to-disable-images-in-firefox/


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September 23, 2018, 08:42:07 AM
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After reading a great article on Medium, by Sebastian Wurst--a computer scientist turned digital health researcher turned digital strategist, thinking about #startups, #blockchain, #ai, and #digitalhealth--I would like to begin a thread about the 30 questions across 7 dimensions that he uses to assess an ICO thus providing a simple framework for ICO due diligence.

As a Newbie  (reformed shitposter! Smiley), I do not know where to begin with such a discussion or whether the validity of such a discussion is warranted here. If such a discussion is warranted and, as the work belongs to Sebastian Wurst, I will do my utmost to ensure that his intellectual property is properly recognized in the forum.

Please help!
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September 23, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
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After reading a great article on Medium, by Sebastian Wurst--a computer scientist turned digital health researcher turned digital strategist, thinking about #startups, #blockchain, #ai, and #digitalhealth--I would like to begin a thread about the 30 questions across 7 dimensions that he uses to assess an ICO thus providing a simple framework for ICO due diligence.

As a Newbie  (reformed shitposter! Smiley), I do not know where to begin with such a discussion or whether the validity of such a discussion is warranted here. If such a discussion is warranted and, as the work belongs to Sebastian Wurst, I will do my utmost to ensure that his intellectual property is properly recognized in the forum.

Please help!
Anything about ICOs should ideally be started in the Altcoin Discussion threads. If you want to discuss its wider implication to bitcoin ecosystem, you could also use the Bitcoin Discussion page.

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September 23, 2018, 09:54:26 AM
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This is a right step in action to cleanse the forum of some of the numerous irrelevant post but seriously i don't think this will solve the situation fully as already some folks have started abusing the merit system as reported by LoyceV. I know this forum has a system where it rates the relevancy of post so what if we can use this system to automatically delete post that are irrelevant to topic under discussion. For instance if a comment is not more than 50% relevant then such a topic or comment should be automatically deleted by the system.

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September 23, 2018, 06:41:57 PM
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How to create a list of every demoted ex-junior member that received exactly 1 merit AFTER Theymos announced the new newbie restriction rules...
So be carefull, this list WILL receive false-positives, but my gut feeling tells me that at least 50% of the resulting users have abused the system...

Step 1: wait untill the current week is done
Step 2: Download LoyceV's full merit history
Step 3: tac merit.all.txt > merit.txt
Step 4:
Code:
#!/usr/bin/python
import time
import cfscrape
import re
#the unix timestamp on which Theymos declared the new rule about 1 merit minimum
timestamp_start = 1537157940
#a list of the complete merit history, reversed (oldest timestamp on top), tac merit.all.txt > merit.txt
filepath = 'merit.txt'
#database with the latest message received merit BEFORE the rule change...
db_received_merit_before_newrule = {}
#potential suspect senders
db_theusualsuspects_from = {}
#potential suspect receivers
db_theusualsuspects_to = {}
print "everything intialised"
print "starting the parsing of " + filepath
with open(filepath) as fp:  
line = fp.readline()
linenumber = 0
while line:
linenumber += 1
line = fp.readline().strip()
parts = line.split()
try:
timestamp = int(parts[0])
amount = int(parts[1])
msg = str(parts[2])
from_uid = int(parts[3])
to_uid = int(parts[4])
#if the time of the merit exchange happened BEFORE the rule change,the user is whitelisted because he received merit BEFORE he knew he/she needed it to move past newbie
if timestamp < timestamp_start:
if to_uid not in db_received_merit_before_newrule:
db_received_merit_before_newrule[to_uid] = msg
else:
#only if the user never received merit BEFORE the rule change, and the merit amount was exactly 1
if to_uid not in db_received_merit_before_newrule and amount == 1:
print str(to_uid) + " was merited with 1 merit for the first time after " + str(timestamp_start) + "...Suspicious"
#keep the uid + latest msg for the potentially abusive sender for later analysis
if from_uid not in db_theusualsuspects_from:
db_theusualsuspects_from[from_uid] = msg
#add the uid + latest message to the db to check
if to_uid not in db_theusualsuspects_to:
db_theusualsuspects_to[to_uid] = msg

except:
print "error in line " + str(linenumber) + "(" + line + ")"
print "ending the parsing of " + filepath
print "getting all profiles and filtering out all jr members"
for suspect in db_theusualsuspects_to:
scraper = cfscrape.create_scraper()
html = scraper.get("https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=" + str(suspect)).content
m = re.search('(<td>Jr. Member</td>)', html)
if m:
m2 = re.search('(<td>1</td>)', html)
if m2:
print str(suspect) + " " + m.group(0) + " " + db_theusualsuspects_to[suspect]
time.sleep(2)

So indirectly you are saying that who ever receive 1 Merit is subject to be suspicious ?   Grin


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September 23, 2018, 08:36:14 PM
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How to create a list of every demoted ex-junior member that received exactly 1 merit AFTER Theymos announced the new newbie restriction rules...
So be carefull, this list WILL receive false-positives, but my gut feeling tells me that at least 50% of the resulting users have abused the system...

So indirectly you are saying that who ever receive 1 Merit is subject to be suspicious ?   Grin

Well, apply some common sense, here: people who received no merit couldn't possibly be accused of abuse...  Grin

Let's see where the data takes us before making any pitched arguments, though.
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September 23, 2018, 10:05:23 PM
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good move to have minimum 1 merit to be abble to upgrade from newbie to Jr, but if you just have to post a message like this to earn a merit, it's not so difficult...   Cheesy

@the Phamarcist:
First as a joke, but you'll agree that given the difficulty of collecting merits on local boards, your donation is a little inappropriate...

Well, a message with zero words is really minimalistic indeed. I wonder if there are other gifs with zero words which which have got merited. We may discover that saying something is possibly NOT the best strategy to raise in rank Smiley If confirmed, that could be a terrific discovery for all those shitposters who cannot write in English but they do post nevertheless in abbundance. Suddenly they may chose to adopt this strategy which doesn't require being able to communicate with words and sentences.
Let's get ready for a tsumani of GIFs on the forum - Lol Cheesy
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September 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
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<...> Well, a message with zero words is really minimalistic indeed. I wonder if there are other gifs with zero words which which have got merited. <...>
Here’s an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg31165706#msg31165706. It’s jpg, but serves the purpose, and it got 14 sMerits. The referenced thread is rather prolific with these, but it is a rather particular ecosystem.

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September 24, 2018, 02:26:05 AM
Merited by nutildah (1)
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Couldn't resist.


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September 24, 2018, 04:17:58 AM
Merited by Steamtyme (1)
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Couldn't resist.



The meme would be more funny if you were not serious.   Tongue

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

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September 24, 2018, 05:02:30 AM
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then why with me, why go back to the newbie, is there something wrong with me or the engine error  Huh
I saw the activities of the old people, commented a little but they got on the move faster   Roll Eyes  Shocked
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September 24, 2018, 05:16:36 AM
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Couldn't resist.



No, we are not here to throwing bones Grin

then why with me, why go back to the newbie, is there something wrong with me or the engine error  Huh
I saw the activities of the old people, commented a little but they got on the move faster   Roll Eyes  Shocked
I just look at your post history. Most of the post you're posted in the ANN threads and its filled with bounty reports and annoying big images. So its quite obvious why you didn't receive any merit.

Old people have the higher engine capacity like V12 but seem like the error is in your engine. It's time to change the engine or the entire vehicle before you're going to hit by some of the old member or mod Grin



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September 24, 2018, 05:46:28 AM
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This new rule will bring WIN WIN on both the members and to protect also the forum, we couldn't deny the fact that this forum were abused by those greedy and taking advantage the forum's popularity by creating farm account to use to some bounty offers and it will bring a bad reputation for the forum itself. Thanks Admin for this clarification that we need to abide and follow.
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September 24, 2018, 09:02:55 AM
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I'll even speak for myself.The new rules made newcomers to think differently.Now to get one measure-you need to write something correct and smart, so that others see your contribution and appreciated. Now many just do not want to write outright spam that no one will be rewarded.I already now see that in the main remained those whom merit indeed need and who seeks to his obtain - not buy.Innovations definitely brought more benefit.
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