Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements

[PowerLaunch]

I'm glad we wear the copper membership to allow our pictures to remain.. some of our clients weren't so lucky.

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[MainIbem]

Due to excessive garbage-posting, you now need 1 merit to be a Jr Member. All existing Jr Members who didn't meet the requirement were demoted.

One reason that I was hesitant to do this before is that there are an awful lot of newbie restrictions, and I don't want the forum to be unwelcoming to good newbies.

Sometimes, it becomes obvious that some persons don't just want to grow up. The new rule notwithstanding, those good ones will still prove their mettle. It will not stop both the good and the bad from joining, but certainly, it was a deserving rule. What needed to be done has been done.

[MrSpasybo]

I'm glad we wear the copper membership to allow our pictures to remain.. some of our clients weren't so lucky.

Paying 0.02 BTC ~ $135 USD and becoming Copper Member is easier than buying Merits from Community.
This is the best solution for Newbie members at the moment, because I know earning Merits for cool topic/post is not easy for all of members, especially for members of local forums.
Become Copper members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

[LiluSG]

I'm glad we wear the copper membership to allow our pictures to remain.. some of our clients weren't so lucky.

Paying 0.02 BTC ~ $135 USD and becoming Copper Member is easier than buying Merits from Community.
This is the best solution for Newbie members at the moment, because I know earning Merits for cool topic/post is not easy for all of members, especially for members of local forums.
Become Copper members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

Check link - 0.002 btc - 14$
Everything is an order of magnitude more democratic

[LeFutur]

I believe that the innovation is correct. And I supporting the policy of the administration. But, of course, it's a unexpectedly to see a drop in rank. But, I think, that it would be more correct, as with the first introduction of merits, to give Jr. Member the necessary measure, and limit the new members. But this measure is good, because most likely, now, the content on the forum will be better and there will be less spam, which is very nice!

[hoangtujuda]

But if you're incapable of posting anything worthwhile, then you will never rank up, and you shouldn't: this isn't the forum for you.

I really like the way you do this, because the current spam phenomenon causes the forums to be overloaded and virtually the bot is everywhere. This is a useful forum, and if someone get something worth it, they need to contribute something in return here, hopefully this will make the forum more active in the future.

[Rajs64]

looks like merits are priced at 14$/QTY, as of current market situation  



Just a TG snap from one of bounty group(with removed names ....sorry guys!! I don't want you to be his next customer!!! )

A thought (which may hurt newbies and alike  ), should the qualifying requirement be increased to +5 merits??

[nutildah]

A thought (which may hurt newbies and alike  ), should the qualifying requirement be increased to +5 merits??

It should, but then people would just be buying or begging for 5 merits instead of 1.

Pretty fucking sad if you can't cobble together 1 meritable post and are only here to abuse the forum, purposefully shunning a treasure trove of knowledge you could be using to make far more money than you ever would as a bounty hunter. I'm totally going to search for these people on Telegram and fuck with them.

[Locotoni]

Are these restrictions for those who have been demoted? "newbie wear sigature"[1]
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4796382.msg43272911#msg43272911 <- i think this is copper member, but with HIDE text

I forgot to wipe non-demoted newbies. Fixed, thanks.

Also, I just realized that I did wipe 0-merit Jr Members who were also copper members. I undid that.

i update my profile, but - on this section - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

i can HIDE (copper member) and make posts without jr.member and copper member text

1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote  


2 - post with copper member text


3 - post without copper member text (HIDE - copper text)

[Settyam]

Short guide how to blow ass of thousands bounty farmers which became Newbie now:
-Post GIF like that
-Give it merit for that post
...
-Profit

[philipma1957]

I am now a source the best way for me to be neutral is to look at a list of names of jr to newbie and read posts.

I now have a list and have decided to pass on the first 2 people on the list.

   I do have a concern about people selling merits.  0.0010 is cheaper then 0.0020  for copper purchase.  I am not selling merits I am reading posts on the list I have been given.


But My concern would be other sources will sell that 1 merit  for 0.0010 btc.

They'd be risking red trust if they do that. More likely some old/hacked accounts could engage in such sales.

good point.

I looked at the first part of the list sent to me from thermyos

| id      | name                      | loginDay | activity |
+---------+---------------------------+----------+----------+
| 1197204 | ZUTEN12000...........|    17792 |      364 |
| 1183714 | rakkhusi.................|    17792 |      336 |
|  985565 | abdu_hz..................|    17792 |      324 |
| 1192004 | cobs27...................|    17792 |      322 |
| 1130372 | Anhdienhg .............|    17792 |      308 |

| 1240244 | scolcoin                  |    17792 |      308 | He may get a merit

| 1298826 | wandogim................|    17792 |      308 |
| 1333241 | dendenseptember.....|    17792 |      308 |
| 1341161 | suzychan.................|    17792 |      308 |
| 1382518 | D4smin....................|    17792 |      308 |

I do not want to  get these people marked up with red trust  but I do want to continue do this tomorrow.

I have hundreds more to check these have the most posts.

My assumption is posting this list is okay but I will stop if thermyos says not to post it.

One caveat is there are some posts in other languages which I don't know.

about 475 names  on the list sent to me.

did these today

| 1269904 | arbl0422                  |    17792 |      294 |
| 1411783 | Vika12345                 |    17792 |      294 |
| 1428814 | rizabek123                |    17792 |      294 |
| 1430930 | Valhalaa                  |    17792 |      294 |
| 1445790 | Ramadhoni060616           |    17792 |      294 |

| 1450751 | siena23                   |    17792 |      294 |
|  979603 | duncaneastlance           |    17792 |      283 |

the two in bold made some effort to post stuff other then facebook or twitter campaigns

| 1104048 | jdgranfiel                |    17792 |      280 |
| 1215835 | Jrfranco                  |    17792 |      280 |  these 2 also did some post other then the bounty garbage

first 19 on the list 18 are hunting for bounty money  4 of them bothered to try to write some other posts  1 is a coin or ico guy and may get a merit from me.

Have to rest my eyes for now.

I will review 17 more on my list today

| 1364460 | dedeipangm                |    17792 |      280 | over 20 pages 99% bounty and some in foreign language  

| 1423222 | h0nganh90                 |    17792 |      280 | 20 pages 5 with some posts then 15 pages all bounty

| 1453967 | success007                |    17792 |      280 |this post is pretty good

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3294368.msg35171674#msg35171674

many bounty posts but the one above is well thought out.



| 1454421 | bijoy12                   |    17792 |      280 | bounty hunter no real content
| 1468673 | s4l1wu                    |    17792 |      280 | bounty hunter almost no real content
| 1488954 | Thanhjonhan               |    17792 |      280 |
| 1522816 | Ikingpain                 |    17792 |      280 |
| 1056527 | lafter                    |    17792 |      266 |
| 1345107 | badranaya                 |    17792 |      266 |
| 1389208 | nitin8263                 |    17792 |      266 |
| 1467308 | jalaludin96               |    17792 |      266 |
| 1497449 | KriptoFull                |    17792 |      266 |
| 1577999 | marcus13                  |    17792 |      266 |
| 1633411 | zangleerb                 |    17792 |      266 |
| 1650479 | garybyerz                 |    17792 |      266 |36 pages very little content mostly all bounty
| 1680274 | edisopian                 |    17792 |      266 | bounty hunter no real content


| 1681678 | omfg.xekcep               |    17792 |      266

 he has some long thoughtful posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829339.msg31504422#msg31504422
I gave him 2 points for this post made months ago.

[AAlex48]

I consider this change to be necessary, although it has affected me. Recently, the number of accounts and, accordingly, the flood has grown a lot due to participation in the bounty. This will also affect the quality itself, which is useful for Ico projects, and for participants as their quantity will decrease. We can even add a certain condition for the rank according to activity, so that one can't just buy merit and increase rank.

[omer-jamal]

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Marketplace is indeed a pain in the a**. I just think it's very hard to do these kind of checks. A massive amount of posts are posted everyday.
One option would be KYC verification for all BCT users, so that you can ban people forever... Don't think that that's gonna happen soon...

why KYC ?! you know Many users used Fake Name do not be Another bittrex !!  
you're IP address better than KYC !
and ID verification Can Forged Easily and scammer They have experience Counterfeiting

bitcoin and crypto Solved human errors why you are want Returns this errors  ?

[Rtalk]

You can simply add the ability to carry signatures starting from member / Full Member , as projects need to be promoted by competent users.

 You can also try to tie the activity on the forum to quantities merit. Ie if the user upon reaching a certain activity will not gain a certain number of merit-his merit is subtracted from previously obtained .

And so until declining rank. Those who want - will try to get a merit. If someone is not the rank and he's just on the forum for information (not bounty)-let remains a newbie.

[roperto222]

This is the best decision you've ever made Regard the spam issue . you literally killed thousands of spammer and multi accounter.
Alot of people was creating new accounts to participate in bounties. Now that era ended.
 

[adamantasaurus]

I think the merit system is not a good system there has to be something different that would be better, I've made plenty of good posts and didn't get any merit for them (the only merit I got was bc I was already a member here and got the airdrop when it first came out) but it is REALLY HARD to get merit TOO HARD you need to have a better system implemented I don't like this merit system at all.

[Zhagedu]

All said have done and the system implemented for a better forum as it used to be before now. Though this system implementation has greatly affected me in several ways as a Jr. Member and a Bounty-Hunter. Maybe from now my humble self post will be look into for a merit; justice and fairness should be seen among merited members of this forum.

[101nowby]

There is so much Full Member and Member who did not receive, and did not give any merit. some of the fear, and some - from ignorance of the new rules.  Some buy membership and do not differ from beginners.  What do you think of them, such users? Are you going to limit them and infringe on their rights?
  What do you think about all these problems?

[bones261]

I think the merit system is not a good system there has to be something different that would be better, I've made plenty of good posts and didn't get any merit for them (the only merit I got was bc I was already a member here and got the airdrop when it first came out) but it is REALLY HARD to get merit TOO HARD you need to have a better system implemented I don't like this merit system at all.

With the new rule change, more merit sources were added and many of the established merit sources have more merits to hand out. It should get a little easier. I looked at your post history, and decided that I will throw you a bone.  

[philipma1957]

I am now a source the best way for me to be neutral is to look at a list of names of jr to newbie and read posts.

I now have a list and have decided to pass on the first 2 people on the list.

   I do have a concern about people selling merits.  0.0010 is cheaper then 0.0020  for copper purchase.  I am not selling merits I am reading posts on the list I have been given.


But My concern would be other sources will sell that 1 merit  for 0.0010 btc.

They'd be risking red trust if they do that. More likely some old/hacked accounts could engage in such sales.

good point.

I looked at the first part of the list sent to me from thermyos

| id      | name                      | loginDay | activity |
+---------+---------------------------+----------+----------+
| 1197204 | ZUTEN12000...........|    17792 |      364 |
| 1183714 | rakkhusi.................|    17792 |      336 |
|  985565 | abdu_hz..................|    17792 |      324 |
| 1192004 | cobs27...................|    17792 |      322 |
| 1130372 | Anhdienhg .............|    17792 |      308 |

| 1240244 | scolcoin                  |    17792 |      308 | He may get a merit

| 1298826 | wandogim................|    17792 |      308 |
| 1333241 | dendenseptember.....|    17792 |      308 |
| 1341161 | suzychan.................|    17792 |      308 |
| 1382518 | D4smin....................|    17792 |      308 |

I do not want to  get these people marked up with red trust  but I do want to continue do this tomorrow.

I have hundreds more to check these have the most posts.

My assumption is posting this list is okay but I will stop if thermyos says not to post it.

One caveat is there are some posts in other languages which I don't know.

about 475 names  on the list sent to me.

did these today

| 1269904 | arbl0422                  |    17792 |      294 |
| 1411783 | Vika12345                 |    17792 |      294 |
| 1428814 | rizabek123                |    17792 |      294 |
| 1430930 | Valhalaa                  |    17792 |      294 |
| 1445790 | Ramadhoni060616           |    17792 |      294 |

| 1450751 | siena23                   |    17792 |      294 |
|  979603 | duncaneastlance           |    17792 |      283 |

the two in bold made some effort to post stuff other then facebook or twitter campaigns

| 1104048 | jdgranfiel                |    17792 |      280 |
| 1215835 | Jrfranco                  |    17792 |      280 |  these 2 also did some post other then the bounty garbage

first 19 on the list 18 are hunting for bounty money  4 of them bothered to try to write some other posts  1 is a coin or ico guy and may get a merit from me.

Have to rest my eyes for now.

I will review 17 more on my list today

| 1364460 | dedeipangm                |    17792 |      280 | over 20 pages 99% bounty and some in foreign language  

| 1423222 | h0nganh90                 |    17792 |      280 | 20 pages 5 with some posts then 15 pages all bounty

| 1453967 | success007                |    17792 |      280 |this post is pretty good

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3294368.msg35171674#msg35171674

many bounty posts but the one above is well thought out.



| 1454421 | bijoy12                   |    17792 |      280 | bounty hunter no real content
| 1468673 | s4l1wu                    |    17792 |      280 | bounty hunter almost no real content
| 1488954 | Thanhjonhan               |    17792 |      280 |bounty hunter with some content here and there

| 1522816 | Ikingpain                 |    17792 |      280 |he does hunt bounty but made good posts in russian I googled translated quite a few and I will give him merits


| 1056527 | lafter                    |    17792 |      266 | 800 + posts about 50 content rest bounty not much value to content

| 1345107 | badranaya                 |    17792 |      266 | 1200 for bounty 10 or so with weak content
| 1389208 | nitin8263                 |    17792 |      266 | 995 posts sprinkles in short content posts

| 1467308 | jalaludin96               |    17792 |      266 |400 plus post  purchased a copper some content mostly all bounty



| 1497449 | KriptoFull                |    17792 |      266 | 319 posts  not sure no twitter or facebook bs maybe some one could look at him seems to do some russian posts


| 1577999 | marcus13                  |    17792 |      266 | 915 post tons of twitter and facebook

this post is insightful
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2981921.msg30649714#msg30649714

I gave him a pair of merits for it.


| 1633411 | zangleerb                 |    17792 |      266 | 420 posts he offers translation services
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4787174.msg43200567#msg43200567  I would like to merit him for this but don't know if he did good work  any help  would be  nice.



| 1650479 | garybyerz                 |    17792 |      266 |36 pages very little content mostly all bounty
| 1680274 | edisopian                 |    17792 |      266 | bounty hunter no real content


| 1681678 | omfg.xekcep               |    17792 |      266

 he has some long thoughtful posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829339.msg31504422#msg31504422
I gave him 2 points for this post made months ago.

I read 29 on the list about 13000 plus  posts are bounty twitter and facebook
100 are content
and maybe a dozen to 20 have some value.

I gave merits 2 two guys and may give 1 more .

Have to rest my eyes for now.