Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

He's not a scammer as far as I know. I disagree with his use of trust system for petty and/or personal stuff so I've had him excluded in my trust list since forever.

Well I took a look at the trust he's left (at least the feedbacks written in English), and there's nothing worse in there than anything Lauda had given.  I see Ratimov has tagged a lot of account sellers and didn't seem to be giving out negs for frivolous reasons, though he tagged some members as being alts and I don't know if they're alts of scammers or what.  A lot of his negative feedbacks were worded very strongly, but I don't see that as a big deal. 

And yet the fact remains that Ratimov got removed from the Chipmixer campaign, so something must have happened.  I thought he might have gotten a DT neg, but that isn't the case.  Last I checked there was nothing about it in the Chipmixer thread.

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[airfinex]

Well I took a look at the trust he's left (at least the feedbacks written in English), and there's nothing worse in there than anything Lauda had given.  I see Ratimov has tagged a lot of account sellers and didn't seem to be giving out negs for frivolous reasons, though he tagged some members as being alts and I don't know if they're alts of scammers or what.  A lot of his negative feedbacks were worded very strongly, but I don't see that as a big deal.  

Feedback means nothing under proof. And all the links left by Ratimov in Russian, have you read them? If not how can you then say that the feedback left by him is justified. You trust suchmoon opinion and he understands Russian like    Royse777 too. Formally, this means that you can trust their opinion regarding exceptions.

To convince you, you can choose any feedback left by him and I will translate the evidence for you and suchmoon will certify their authenticity.

And yet the fact remains that Ratimov got removed from the Chipmixer campaign, so something must have happened.  I thought he might have gotten a DT neg, but that isn't the case.  Last I checked there was nothing about it in the Chipmixer thread.

Darkstar is very tolerant so he will not disclose the reason. But you should have guessed anyway, he even condescendingly reacted to the fact that Ratimov created the FUD regarding the alleged national injustice.

I haven't looked at the feedback legendster has left for others, but I will after this post and if it looks like he's left a bunch of retaliatory feedback I'll exclude him from my trust list (not that it'll do much good, as I'm only on DT2 right now).  I know he's a volatile personality, almost like TECSHARE was, so it wouldn't surprise me if he is misusing the trust system--but I'm not saying he is, because I haven't looked for myself.

Could you explain the difference between the fact that you excluded legendster and the fact that you do not see abuse in Ratimov's actions? If it's not difficult for you, then answer.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Seriously though I don't really have a good tl;dr, since I'm not entirely sure what's going on. Ratimov seems to have a lot of "enemies", including korner's farm and a bunch of other assholes who doxed him and that's disgusting.

Huh, wait... WHAT? Oo

Who doxxed him? And where? I may have been a bit busy last days and didn't see all that happened around, but I thought I got myself up to date, Ratimov's exclusion from millionaires' billionaires' gang being the latest news. Then I see this. Did something like this really happened? If so, that's disgusting indeed... I knew he had many enemies, but I did not ever think it could end up in anything like this. OK, may him be a plagiarist or not; may him be a DT1 with good use of the system or not; may him be... whatever else... but why doxx him though...?

I looked in the Investigation board, which is the only board where revealing personal information is permitted, but I did not see any topic about him... Therefore I believe the doxxing took course on a prohibited area of the forum, which is even worse, as anyone can see it... I did not interact with him too much, but I never saw him offering personal information, so this is a wonder for me... how it could happen. And, most important, why... You may not like someone, but why harm him that way...?

[OgNasty]

LoyceV,
Being fair, I think you’re a weasel who supports the worst of the worst on this forum because you’re a trust manipulating coward. People like you who have had next to no real trustworthy interactions here shouldn’t even be in DT, let alone one desperately seeking control by adding mentally deranged users to their network that actively harass others here. You and suchmoon are just as scummy as Vod in my opinion, only you do so in the shadows. That’s why I excluded you from my network.

[suchmoon]

Who doxxed him? And where?

This was a while ago on the Russian board, and the rationale (if you can call it that) was that his opsec was shit so it's fair game. I'm not sure who originally did it - korner would be my guess - but as far as I know there wasn't even a remotely plausible reason for it.

[LoyceV]

~

That's cute, you're trying to insult me with this:

(source)

Did you not read my personal text?

It's okay you don't like me. Really, it's okay. But you're posting in the wrong topic, try this one. It would also be nice if you stick to just one topic, I wouldn't want to end up like your feud with Vod, but you seem to enjoy attacking my reputation in many topics for months now. It's a cheap trick though, you know I won't respond to your off-topic allegations in other topics, so you're hoping some of it will stick.
What was it again you threatened me with by PM? Something about feeling insulted (by facts!) and threatening with negative feedback for your hurt feelings? Shortly after, you were excluded from DT.

People like you who have had next to no real trustworthy interactions here shouldn’t even be in DT

This is gold, coming from the person who put me on DT when DT1 was still centralized. You must miss those times.
For the record: you've never been on my Trust list.

I didn't delete your rant because this part is on-topic. Incorrect, but on-topic:

You and suchmoon are just as scummy as Vod in my opinion, only you do so in the shadows. That’s why I excluded you from my network.

In reality, you removed me from your Trust list because I didn't support you in your feud with Vod, and you excluded me in retaliation for my exclusion. Let me quote myself on this:

~OgNasty
Threatens me by PM to give negative feedback because he doesn't like my post.

I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system, and neither does theymos judging by his quote a bit higher in this post.
I would like to post his PM, but this is generally considered not done so I won't.
Update: OgNasty didn't take long to retaliate, which is quite funny considering he had me included up to 5 days ago. Just like most of his Trust exclusions are mutual. Funny how stating facts makes him not like my judgement.

The users excluding me aren't really Bitcointalk's crème de la crème anyway:

Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +31 / =1 / -0) (6570 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-03-06_Sat_04.07h)

~LoyceV's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (0) 1164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Gyrsur (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (434 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -4) (DT1 (-18) 181 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. cryptohunter (Trust: +1 / =2 / -3) (167 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. funchiestz (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -8) (92 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. bamb (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Thule (Trust: +0 / =2 / -10) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Vadi2323 (Trust: +1 / =3 / -1) (173 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. ekiller (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (461 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. endlasuresh (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. wolwoo (Trust: +0 / =3 / -3) (DT1 (-14) 657 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Bazinga442 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -6) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. tokneneng (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. argio (Trust: +0 / =2 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Trade Runner (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (48 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. H8bussesNbicycles (Trust: +0 / =1 / -10) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. ito-marketing (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. gwsukabokepjepang (Trust: +0 / =0 / -9) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. humanrights Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. villain_Mr.Burns (Trust: +0 / =1 / -2) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. smartcontracts100 (Trust: +0 / =1 / -5) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Thanks for posting your reasoning behind excluding users, I've added you to the list:

Reserved for links to posts from other users

Timelord2067
mdayonliner
coinlocket$
Timelord2o67
OgNasty

Please elaborate on your reasoning behind the rest of the 61 users you've excluded. I would especially like to hear about mutual exclusions.

[ScumBuster]

You lied again. These words contain only 27-30 tags, and I left more than 600 tags.

Admits to using trust 30 times just for pathetic insults. What a stupid child. Remove from DT now.

I do not trust the judgments of such a person who is not responsible for his words and spreads such false information.

Then you do not trust the judgements of yourself who spreads false information on trust walls about people being raped. Remove from DT now.

The tag was given for the fact that he began to spread information in different sections that I make money on the forum in corruption schemes. Of course, no proofs were presented

You made money by plagiarizing. Proofs - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144. Very corrupt thing to do. Leaving fake red trust for being called out about it is even more corrupt. Remove from DT now.

Bratty child having tantrum

It is not 2012, no one cares what you think any more. You are old has been.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I don't understand this kid-kid things LOL
How old are you Ratimov?

Happy $60k everyone!!

Happy $60k!!!
Looking forward to $100k soon?

[savetheFORUM]

Ratimov typing so much without signature breaks my heart. Someone give this man a signature campaign. It takes serious effort to first phrase in Russian or any native language, then translate into English and match the speed against a native English speaker.

Getting back to the topic, I have ~Legendster to my trust setting and I promise to remove him from there, although it doesn't matter, once he improves his attitude.

[LoyceV]

What happened to my beautiful topic?

[suchmoon]

What happened to my beautiful topic?

You know you can use the "Beautify" (AKA "delete") button, right?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It is a pity, we all sincerely regret that BitcoinGirl.Club does not understand something there.

We? Mind giving the list?

Go to my profile, it says.  

You think you are having fun here?

I am sorry to say that I see frustration inside you. There are two ways to seek attention. One is putting negativity and another is being a positive mind. You are seeking attention by doing the first one lately which is not good for you. And if you continue such one day you will feel all doors are closed for you and you will leave the place. We have seen users with the same behaves and all of the ending are same.

You are attacking old time users here, telling them kids as if you are someone intellectual and giving years of time to the community and for bitcoin. It's a long road to earn it. This community does not owe you anything. At least looking at your time in the forum (since June 13, 2019) you are still truly a child my friend. And if you really think your profile is reflecting your age (which is of course not) then know that I have a young girl who is older than you and I am giving her a very well mannered life. You need to learn manners.

eddie13 and us WO users and also the old timers are here from ages and giving our bloods and sweats taking care of this community. We are with bitcoin at its good time, we are with bitcoin at its bad time. At least our long standing on the forum proves it. Stay here for next few years then earn it to call users "Kid" but still that will not earn you to insult users.

Edit:
Quoting

Looking forward to $100k soon?

Discussion of the price of bitcoin in the topic of reputation? This is of course trash. Guys, you have no place to discuss this anymore, or were you kicked out of other topics? 

Especially for eddie13 and BitcoinGirl.Club I will leave the topic name at the bottom, all of a sudden the guys forgot. 

Why are these members excluded on trust lists?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

blah-blah-blah

That's enough. There is no point to write you anything. I would like to see how long you stay around with this shit mindset. In fact, I am certain that without having a signature campaign or a way of earning any money from this forum you will last the next one year. Today is 14th March 2021.


Conversation reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg56564234#msg56564234

With connection, which tariff did you choose? What the hell are you talking about? To draw attention? Whose? Your? Or eddie13? You write this to me, not I to you. I just answer you.

If you use your logic, it means that you were looking for attention, so that I turned my attention to you. Is that how it turns out? Or you have selective blindness and you see only what you want.

So let's do some research. How many times eddie tried to get attention before yesterday before I answered him. Can you count? Then count it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg56464147#msg56464147
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg56468340#msg56468340
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317072.msg56506966#msg56506966
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303363.msg56506969#msg56506969

You talk about that kind of shit trying to hide behind your registration date. Let me tell you a terrible secret, the fact that you have been registered here for a long time does not in any way negate the fact that you can be an idiot. So don't try to hide him and yourself behind these registration dates.

Those users who are really busy with useful things here will never write this bravado in style: you know how long I have been on the forum, and you are so much, but I know how much I have done here.

You are an ordinary poser.

Apparently here some kind of diagnosis is observed with the same development of events:

- the user writes to me
- I reply to the user
- the user claims that I am trying to attract attention by attacking him.

Thank you, I laughed at your naive arguments. 

Full archive to see the comments made by the user: https://archive.ph/wip/EAv7w

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

You have a typical bounty boy mindset who primarily looks at everything through the lens of money.

Boy you are so mistaken and it's not my job to correct you.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Trust is not the place where you need to leave your bets on some event. Will or will not go away. ; D

Sorry to know your ignorance.
I am not interested to go further with your ignorant kid zone but I can not help to know who else are with you? What did you mean with we?

It is a pity, we all sincerely regret that BitcoinGirl.Club does not understand something there.

We? Mind giving the list?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Loyce.. Feel free to wipe all this after a while..
My name was just mentioned here so many times I kinda had to reply..

Damn it!
I forgot that this is another of LoyceV's self moderated thread where off topics will be deleted 😛

Hey Loyce, Brother, although the conversation does not strike me off topic however you are the sailor of this topic so feel free if this seems off to you. However, I hope you find this argument the reason of distrusting someone not having a sense of proper judgement 😉

[DireWolfM14]

Wow, what a clusterfuck of a thread this has become!  

Public Service Announcement:  Everyone engaging in, and contributing to personal squabbles in this thread; you're not helping the situation.  If this were my thread I would delete every post made since March 3rd.

[eddie13]

That is, I earned a rating for scam buster, activity on the forum. And eddie13 thinks these are shit ratings. Now let's see who eddie13 trusts:

Shit ratings yup..

I like them for other reasons..

[Little Mouse]

That is, I earned a rating for scam buster, activity on the forum. And eddie13 thinks these are shit ratings.

According to my custom trust list, I can see three positive feedback where one feedback is in Russian text. I didn’t check with google translator as automated translation can be terrible and my judgement on that feedback may go wrong. So, I'm sharing the views on the rest two feedback.

First one says, "You are the first to receive 2000 merits as Russian"
2nd says, "You are useful user as you write good stuff."

Now, come to the point of what positive feedback means. This is what written in the feedback sending page-

You think that this person is unlikely to scam anyone.

Let's break it down. According to your feedback, you are unlikely to scam. But, did you ever trade here? Do both the feedback includes any trading activities? Did you risk any financial thing? Nothing, right. Then, how can these two feedback represent you as you are unlikely to scam? Don't you think these two feedbacks are wrong according to the definition of the positive feedback?
In the past, there were users who scam huge money with such feedback. See theyoungmillionaire case. He got exactly the same feedback like you, got trusted by others and scammed 0.30 BTC I think.
I'm not saying you are going to scam, or I'm not saying it’s your fault but you feedbacks doesn’t worth in my opinion also.

@LoyceV, sorry. I think this discussion is off topic here and also my post is.

[eddie13]

I like CM just fine.. Actually I align with their mission very well..
That thread, if you would have read it, was about ChipMixer posters having contrary positions to that of what they advertise for..

Rest of you post is also nonsense.. Gaslighting..