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February 06, 2019, 08:42:06 AM
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About meriting, surely, it wouldn't be considered manipulation if awarded to good posts, regardless of whether the poster is an "undesirable"? In this case a thread like this would suffice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0 - where posters can report good unmerited post and anybody can merit them if they choose to.

The moderators already started to (anonymously) de-merit us.


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February 06, 2019, 08:49:54 AM
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About meriting, surely, it wouldn't be considered manipulation if awarded to good posts, regardless of whether the poster is an "undesirable"? In this case a thread like this would suffice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0 - where posters can report good unmerited post and anybody can merit them if they choose to.

The moderators already started to (anonymously) de-merit us.


Nah, that was theymos throwing them dogs a bone.


Is stingers still a merit source?

Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans.

I hadn't read into the thread deeply enough to see that stuff. Those are better arguments against the trustworthiness of H8bussesNbicycles & co., but note that the current negative-trust-ratings were sent long before that. Before February, the thread looks like politics to me.
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February 06, 2019, 08:55:43 AM
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Come on, do you really think that Bitcointalk staff is conspiring against you?

Definately not against little me. But for the scamming clique is thinkable.


Nah, that was theymos giving the dogs a bone.


Is stingers still a merit source?

Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans.

I hadn't read into the thread deeply enough to see that stuff. Those are better arguments against the trustworthiness of H8bussesNbicycles & co., but note that the current negative-trust-ratings were sent long before that. Before February, the thread looks like politics to me.

So now the overlord is interfering with his own setup systems because they don't do what he likes? [sarcasm]What a decentralized and democratic forum this is indeed. [/sarcasm]

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February 06, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
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So now the overlord is interfering with his own setup systems because they don't do what he likes? [sarcasm]What a decentralized and democratic forum this is indeed. [/sarcasm]

Don't sweat it, god don't always get it right. After all, s/he created Satan and this shitty world  Wink
Laters! signing off humming to Joan Osborne's - what if god was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?...
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February 06, 2019, 09:12:31 AM
Last edit: February 06, 2019, 09:34:27 AM by Thule
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What i accuse theymos is he is very often acting one sided in favour of the cult.

I mean we provided so many evidences of their merit abuse like giving 50 mertis for totaly shitposts,bounty threads, or even a 2 word reply
and theymos did nothing.
These DT members have abused the merit system for months were regular user didn't care about merits since they have no intention to sell something on this board or would even care about merit.
I mean even the most merit these DT members have are not from quality posts at all.Somebody can point me to a single quality post of TMAN or Vod as example ?
They got their merit for their actions to tagg someone.To attack a questionable person or project and there was nothing about any quality post.

And when somebody like stinger support our actions it instantly gets removed.

@Theymos why don't you remove all the merits from current DT members who mainly got them from people supporting their actions and not the quality of posts ?
I mean they even openly admitted in the past to merit people for their actions.
You want me to show you how they merited even on Meta when defaming people with shitposts ?You call that the idea of quality ?
So if i support Lauda's abuse and send merits to his abuse threads its ok.But if somebody sends us merits to support our anti abuse thread its not ok.
You wanna tell me Lauda and its cult is not using these merits to manifest their position on this forum?

Why do you create such a heavy imbalance ?

You demand from your current DT members WAY WAY less than you demand from regular member who wants abusers out of the DT system.

Just have a look here 77 merits for his action or do you call this a quality post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105303.0

2 more videos supporting the cult and this 1 month old account will be in DT1


But i guess that will be well deserved?

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February 06, 2019, 10:59:37 AM
Last edit: February 06, 2019, 11:57:14 AM by Bazinga442
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Just have a look here 77 merits for his action or do you call this a quality post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105303.0

2 more videos supporting the cult and this 1 month old account will be in DT1


But i guess that will be well deserved?

It is a witch hunt! There is NO COLLUSION!
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February 06, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
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Check out the latest trust rating Lauda has left me.  



The reference thread takes you to a complaint from minifrij where he was upset that I pointed out he removes/replaces feedback when he doesn't get his way.  Today I also pointed out that Lauda has engaged in this same behavior against user rmcdermott927 on this forum.  Anybody know how me pointing out that minifrij is attempting to bully me into removing my feedback by misusing the trust network equates to me being a scammer?  How does this fit into a reasonable DefaultTrust network rating?

I do not view it as appropriate for trust ratings to relate primarily to non-trust matters. By giving someone negative trust, you're basically attaching a note to all of their posts telling people "warning: do not trade with this person!". If we can get DT working well enough, in the future I'd like to prevent guests from even viewing topics by negative-trust users in trust-enabled sections, so you have to ask yourself whether your negative trust would warrant this sort of significant effect.

I've got a popular escrow service on this site, am the OP of a longstanding community organization as well as a proof of concept Green Energy Project, sell lots of different products, & regularly try to help newbies with their issues here.  Is it right that guests should no longer be able to view my posts because I stood up to the bullying of Lauda & friends?



EVIDENCE OF LAUDA BULLYING RMCDERMOTT927
Are we seeing a pattern yet with these users?


8/23/18: Lauda left this retaliatory trust rating:


10/06/18: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:


01/15/19: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:

LOL..her dog has given me redtrust for conspiring with you guys,what else can you expect to these abusers?  they are going to silence everyone that has gotten their way @Theymos you should listen to the people,we are not the only ones who wants to take these cult down theres a lot but we are the only ones who are brave to do it because they dont want to get red tagged here.Trust system is the main reason why most of the people quits after these abusers gave them inappropriate reds..
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February 06, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
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Which is more important in your endeavor, a net-positive outcome for the forum and community, or removing Lauda from DT?
Taking a look through all of the people you're seeking to exclude, you're going to be doing a LOT of damage if you are successful. I'm just wondering if you believe the ends justify the means?

They don't give a shit about Lauda or anyone. They just want to get rid of their red trust so that they could go on scamming.


You still didn't showed me a single person even i asked 100 times for it.
If you make such claims at least show us who i scammed

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February 06, 2019, 03:46:42 PM
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Your continued actions are the best evidence for theymos to get involved. What Lauda is doing to rmcdermott927 and now me should not be allowed.
What I am doing, i.e. rewriting old ratings to improve them is absolutely allowed and by the guidelines. If it it wasn't I would expect someone to contact me already OR introduce the edit feature - neither of which has happened; besides counters are appropriate anyways. rmcdermott927 continues proving that he is shady/untrustworthy as long as he keeps lying. It is simple really. You can keep screaming at everyone, at theymos at me; theymos can blacklist me, can blacklist everyone that doesn't trust you, but the fact is that rmcdermott927 will remain a liar.

You copy/pasted your trust on rmcdermott927. You didn’t rewrite anything. You are the liar, not rmcdermott927. Anyone who reads your statement and looks at my post can see that.

10/06/18: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:


01/15/19: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:


Check out his latest caught in a lie moment they’re now desperately trying to bury.

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February 06, 2019, 04:15:52 PM
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Which is more important in your endeavor, a net-positive outcome for the forum and community, or removing Lauda from DT?
Taking a look through all of the people you're seeking to exclude, you're going to be doing a LOT of damage if you are successful. I'm just wondering if you believe the ends justify the means?

They don't give a shit about Lauda or anyone. They just want to get rid of their red trust so that they could go on scamming.

You’re wrong, I want only Lauda’s head. And I am not a scammer, show me where I scammed anyone? Your trust ratings are lies just to spite, but I don’t care a jot as I am not here to trade or for any financial gain. In fact, I revel in it as it means I can speak my truth.

If and when I need an account or 2 to show "trustworthiness", creating one that kisses DT ass for trust and merit is the surest and easier method to do it. The same corrupt clowns that left me negatives here would be full of praises then.
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February 06, 2019, 06:04:50 PM
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Which is more important in your endeavor, a net-positive outcome for the forum and community, or removing Lauda from DT?
Taking a look through all of the people you're seeking to exclude, you're going to be doing a LOT of damage if you are successful. I'm just wondering if you believe the ends justify the means?

They don't give a shit about Lauda or anyone. They just want to get rid of their red trust so that they could go on scamming.

Proof of scam please.
Blatant lies are not acceptable.
It is so strange that lauda continues to accuse people of lying although he is a proven liar. Huge Black Woman aka the pharmacist continues to lecture on financially motivated shit posting although he got busted hard for sneaky greedy racist troll spamming under a sock puppet?

Are these people really fucked up or do they think people are going to stand for this hypocrisy and double standards?

Most of DT sadly need to be removed. If you see wrongdoing and are in a position to do something about it but choose not to - - then you have no place on DT.

DT members are actually refusing to look at evidence and proof  that demonstrate wrong doing of other DT members. They are in public refusing to even look at the evidence because they say they choose not to get involved.

Red tags are for issues directly related to trading and scams. Not to be used to silence people and try to crush freedom of speech on this board.

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February 06, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
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Which is more important in your endeavor, a net-positive outcome for the forum and community, or removing Lauda from DT?
Taking a look through all of the people you're seeking to exclude, you're going to be doing a LOT of damage if you are successful. I'm just wondering if you believe the ends justify the means?

They don't give a shit about Lauda or anyone. They just want to get rid of their red trust so that they could go on scamming.

Proof of scam please.
Blatant lies are not acceptable.
It is so strange that lauda continues to accuse people of lying although he is a proven liar. Huge Black Woman aka the pharmacist continues to lecture on financially motivated shit posting although he got busted hard for sneaky greedy racist troll spamming under a sock puppet?

Are these people really fucked up or do they think people are going to stand for this hypocrisy and double standards?

Most of DT sadly need to be removed. If you see wrongdoing and are in a position to do something about it but choose not to - - then you have no place on DT.

DT members are actually refusing to look at evidence and proof  that demonstrate wrong doing of other DT members. They are in public refusing to even look at the evidence because they say they choose not to get involved.

Red tags are for issues directly related to trading and scams. Not to be used to silence people and try to crush freedom of speech on this board.
So that they could go on scamming? look at my fucking red tag...did i scam?? FUCK YOU and your cult.,did you read what theymos said?the thread looks like politics ..why did retaliatory neg is given?fuck off..
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February 06, 2019, 08:57:35 PM
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they are going to silence everyone that has gotten their way @Theymos you should listen to the people,we are not the only ones who wants to take these cult down theres a lot but we are the only ones who are brave to do it because they dont want to get red tagged here.Trust system is the main reason why most of the people quits after these abusers gave them inappropriate reds..
There's no frigging cult, and it's not a gang.  You're bitching about Lauda and Lauda alone.  Who else are you afraid is going to leave a neg for personal grudges?  Who else in what you perceive as a gang does that consistently?  I sure as hell don't, and yet I keep getting lumped in with the so-called "cult".  I think Vod is in there as well, but it's never exactly clear who you're talking about.

Once again, I wish you'd stop spreading this BS that members are going to get negged by the Lauda gang.  Either way, take me off the list.

Huge Black Woman aka The smarmacist is a self confessed lauda supporter.

Why are lauda and dirt bags like tman even on DT? yes the smarmacist supports these scoundrels.

There is clear collusion and cult like behaviour. The evidence is clear on bpip and dt include exclude lists not to mention the clear gang mentality demonstrated in any thread where one gets criticised.

He is very fortunate to be permitted into any sig campaign really considering his prior actions.

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February 06, 2019, 09:01:09 PM
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they are going to silence everyone that has gotten their way @Theymos you should listen to the people,we are not the only ones who wants to take these cult down theres a lot but we are the only ones who are brave to do it because they dont want to get red tagged here.Trust system is the main reason why most of the people quits after these abusers gave them inappropriate reds..
There's no frigging cult, and it's not a gang.  You're bitching about Lauda and Lauda alone.  Who else are you afraid is going to leave a neg for personal grudges?  Who else in what you perceive as a gang does that consistently?  I sure as hell don't, and yet I keep getting lumped in with the so-called "cult".  I think Vod is in there as well, but it's never exactly clear who you're talking about.

Once again, I wish you'd stop spreading this BS that members are going to get negged by the Lauda gang.  Either way, take me off the list.
What a pussy,are you afraid of being overthrowned by the people here?you're a cancer which should be killed immediately..Lauda is your friend,and the friend of OUR enemy is not our friend FYI.
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February 06, 2019, 09:02:43 PM
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There's no frigging cult, and it's not a gang.  You're bitching about Lauda and Lauda alone.

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Once again, I wish you'd stop spreading this BS that members are going to get negged by the Lauda gang.  Either way, take me off the list.

If there’s no cult, and Lauda isn’t trying to intimidate users with a threat of being “negged by the Lauda gang”, then why try to present it as such?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098579.0

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February 06, 2019, 09:14:45 PM
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There's no frigging cult, and it's not a gang.  You're bitching about Lauda and Lauda alone.

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Once again, I wish you'd stop spreading this BS that members are going to get negged by the Lauda gang.  Either way, take me off the list.

If there’s no cult, and Lauda isn’t trying to intimidate users with a threat of being “negged by the Lauda gang”, then why try to present it as such?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098579.0


It is the ultimate example of hypocrisy on this forum. KingZee sums it up perfectly here:

It kind of goes both ways when you think about it. Why is Lauda allowed to manipulate trust by advocating inclusion or exclusion of specific members, while if someone else advocates for HER exclusoon, it's neg-trust. That's some double standards for you guys.
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February 06, 2019, 10:25:14 PM
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If there’s no cult, and Lauda isn’t trying to intimidate users with a threat of being “negged by the Lauda gang”, then why try to present it as such?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098579.0
Lauda is Lauda, that's how she/he rolls.  What I support is the anti-spam/anti-shitposting/anti-forum pollution attitude and actions.  Nothing else.  I don't support scams or extortion or even abusive feedback, which is why I haven't given cryptohunter or any of these other guys a neg.  Do I trust them?  Not really.  But as Theymos said, this is just forum politics and isn't worthy of negative trust.  You can quote me on this and delete the post, I don't care, but that's what's in my mind.

Edit:  I took that thread as a joke on Lauda's part, though I'm sure he/she does want people to make that trust list into their own.  There's not an actual cult or gang, but there's obviously a divide between a lot of senior members here.  I'm starting to gravitate toward the middle instead of digging in my heels.

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February 06, 2019, 10:55:49 PM
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If there’s no cult, and Lauda isn’t trying to intimidate users with a threat of being “negged by the Lauda gang”, then why try to present it as such?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098579.0
Lauda is Lauda, that's how she/he rolls.  What I support is the anti-spam/anti-shitposting/anti-forum pollution attitude and actions.  Nothing else.  I don't support scams or extortion or even abusive feedback, which is why I haven't given cryptohunter or any of these other guys a neg.  Do I trust them?  Not really.  But as Theymos said, this is just forum politics and isn't worthy of negative trust.  You can quote me on this and delete the post, I don't care, but that's what's in my mind.

Edit:  I took that thread as a joke on Lauda's part, though I'm sure he/she does want people to make that trust list into their own.  There's not an actual cult or gang, but there's obviously a divide between a lot of senior members here.  I'm starting to gravitate toward the middle instead of digging in my heels.
If you arent supporting abusive feedbacks,are you will willing to exclude foxup,lauda and others or give them negative trust? im sure you arent because you are leech whom sucking other's blood just to keep yourself alive.

You see? you have tagged a lot of people from the past with alts accounts,shitposters etc. which doesnt violate any forum rules according to theymos.You are abusive with your position,either way your gang's time will come you can deny that you arent part of this hierarchy but the people here knows who's part of lauda's ring like what you have said to your negative trusts,acc farmers/alts,merit abusers whatever BS.
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February 06, 2019, 11:07:11 PM
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I never really agreed on some of the things Lauda has said or some of her Feedback on accounts We have Mixed words in the past and she Never Gave me a Negative trust rating. i  have seen a shit ton of accusations against her which made great reading material but i don't have anything solid that would make me Not trust her or Remover her from my trust list.

Am i defending Lauda? No just throwing out a few facts.
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February 06, 2019, 11:13:07 PM
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If you arent supporting abusive feedbacks,are you will willing to exclude foxup,lauda and others or give them negative trust?
No, although I don't agree with Foxpup's feedback on you.  DT members can and will disagree with each other, but that doesn't mean any of us need to jump right to exclusions or counter-negs or counter-positives (which I have a distaste for).  If someone is consistently wrong or is abusing the trust system, they'll end up off DT.  That happened with TECSHARE and a couple of others if I'm not mistaken.  I've left negs in the heat of the moment, out of emotion, and have removed them after cooling down.  Nobody is perfect.

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