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February 06, 2019, 11:19:28 PM
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take me off the list.
I'm starting to gravitate toward the middle instead of digging in my heels.


if you dont want to be excluded on this mass list remove your inclusion of lauda tman and owlcatz and it will be updated without your exclusion
thier are casualties and i apologize

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February 06, 2019, 11:21:09 PM
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Am i defending Lauda?
You literally are.There are no facts to which you have said,Lauda will give you neg if you oppose her idea/way thats lauda's thing together with his gang you will notice if lauda has negged you,2nd and 3rd the notion will come  Undecided
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February 06, 2019, 11:25:43 PM
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Am i defending Lauda?
You literally are.There are no facts to which you have said,Lauda will give you neg if you oppose her idea/way thats lauda's thing together with his gang you will notice if lauda has negged you,2nd and 3rd the notion will come  Undecided

I clearly stated i do not agree with some of the things she has said before. I clearly stated we Had words with each other before. I am not Worried in the slightest of getting Red Tagged.
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February 06, 2019, 11:26:06 PM
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If you arent supporting abusive feedbacks,are you will willing to exclude foxup,lauda and others or give them negative trust?
No, I don't agree with Foxpup's feedback on you.
See ? your gang has double standards and thats what we are fighting for, everyone who supported this thread has got redtrusts from the gang including (OgNasty)  which theymos said is inappropriate but you still allow your colleagues to do it.If you stands in the middle you know which is right and wrong if you arent an idiot/blind to see it.You can exclude those ABUSERS like you or maybe yourself if you have balls  Cry
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February 06, 2019, 11:29:13 PM
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take me off the list.
I'm starting to gravitate toward the middle instead of digging in my heels.


if you dont want to be excluded on this mass list remove your inclusion of lauda tman and owlcatz and it will be updated without your exclusion
thier are casualties and i apologize

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did you not read the thread ?
you dont ask to be taken off the list
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follow the clear instructions
You didnt highlighted the whole gang bro  Grin
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February 06, 2019, 11:29:57 PM
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you dont ask to be taken off the list
take me off the list.
Oops, I didn't mean that list specifically.  I mean the list of cult or gang members you have a picture of in your head when you think of Lauda.  I am not a part of any such gang, though Lauda and a few other DT members do share the same opinions I have about how this forum ought to be cleaned up, which is why we appear to be on the same side of a lot of issues--mainly shitposting, account selling, scamming, and how those things should be dealt with.  I am not a part of any behind-the-scenes conspiracy to run bitcointalk, however, and only occasionally do I exchange even so much as a PM with other DT members.  Even then, it's not usually anything I haven't said publicly.  I get the feeling that you guys think that's what's happening, and I'm just telling you I'm not involved in any such thing.  

So when I said to leave me off that list, I meant that list of DT members/Lauda-cultists that I think you've imagined is much more organized and conspiratorial than you think.

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The extortion episode I've always seen as a sting operation and I haven't looked at what evidence there was in about two years

what business is it of lauda to run a sting operation
is lauda the police ?


why should lauda care if he paid his taxes on his crypto ?

According to that thread I have already said that all taxes will be paid, and have done it. My bitcoins come from a legal source and all taxes for them has been paid.
I have proven my wealth source (at least parts of it) to the following members:
Lauda, TMAN, Zepher and minifrij
It is impossible to evade taxes with the source of my bitcoins, the above members can confirm that.

Well, it looks pretty clear cut and dry you posted a thread asking a question that is obviously illegal and now you are trying to backpedal?


But I was under the impression that you did not have to pay taxes on bitcoins until you sold them, because as a buyer of bitcoins it is the sellers responsible to pay the taxes on the gains if any?



Why thank you,  We are EU based - US law does not apply, so please read up on EU based laws and statutes.

thanks



fuck the government and their taxes
why is lauda and cult trying to snitch on someone for not paying taxes ?


what a sorry excuse for an extortion attempt


very untrustworthy trying to snitch on someone about taaxes
THIS IS CRYPTO


THEY HARASSED IS MOTHER

It isn't a claim.  It's a fact.  Talk to the users involved.  This isn't the place to discuss, but since you seem to be backing up Lauda while ignoring his misdeeds, you might want to revisit some of the many scammer threads with his involvement.

After Lauda began harassing zeroxal, trying to destroy his reputation and claiming he was a scammer, zeroxal did everything he could to prove his innocence.  This included sending his information to a 3rd party for verification.  He chose to send his passport (bad idea) to IronMarvel2, who then provided it to Lauda whom he thought could be trusted since he was a moderator of the forum.  This information was then given to TMAN, who used it to call and harass zeroxal along with his mother in their home.  Don't take my word for it though.  Ask IronMarvel2 or zeroxal if you need clarification of how Lauda abuses any position he's given to enact terror on those he disagrees with.  I'd rather not share my PMs with everyone involved, but still have them...


including tman and owlcatz


bump this thred guys https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0
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February 06, 2019, 11:57:59 PM
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what business is it of lauda to run a sting operation
is lauda the police ?
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why should lauda care if he paid his taxes on his crypto ?
From what I've read, that whole thing wasn't ultimately about taxes and the signed message from Lauda prior to the operation explains what they were doing.  It was ill-advised for them to do that, especially as Lauda was a staff member at the time, and he/she even admits that.  I think that's also why Lauda got removed as a staff member, but I did not see this as a true extortion attempt, especially coming from Quickseller.  Those two have been feuding since forever.

As far as the harassment goes, that's an assertion that I've never seen evidence for.  I'd tend to agree that threatening via telephone is a really bad idea, but I don't think I have all the facts to make a judgement on that.  I don't know what was said or if any such phone call was ever made.  I don't even really understand what the whole sting operation was supposed to be about other than the suspicion that zeroxal was involved in some criminal activity.

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what business is it of lauda to run a sting operation
is lauda the police ?
<snip>
why should lauda care if he paid his taxes on his crypto ?
From what I've read, that whole thing wasn't ultimately about taxes and the signed message from Lauda prior to the operation explains what they were doing.  It was ill-advised for them to do that, especially as Lauda was a staff member at the time, and he/she even admits that.  I think that's also why Lauda got removed as a staff member, but I did not see this as a true extortion attempt, especially coming from Quickseller.  Those two have been feuding since forever.

As far as the harassment goes, that's an assertion that I've never seen evidence for.  I'd tend to agree that threatening via telephone is a really bad idea, but I don't think I have all the facts to make a judgement on that.  I don't know what was said or if any such phone call was ever made.  I don't even really understand what the whole sting operation was supposed to be about other than the suspicion that zeroxal was involved in some criminal activity.

If you delete this post, at least quote it first.



I did not see this as a true extortion attempt,
 I don't even really understand what the whole sting operation was supposed to be about other than the suspicion that zeroxal was involved in some criminal activity.



how can you be sure it was a trustworthy sting operation if you dont know what it was about ?


facts are facts from quickseller or theymos they are facts


view the pic for harassing his mother/family
https://i.imgur.com/7rKMCmo.png
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.msg17624090#msg17624090

 
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view this archive about the taxes and extortion
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February 07, 2019, 12:23:59 AM
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how can you be sure it was a trustworthy sting operation if you dont know what it was about ?
I'm not 100% sure of anything, but it comes down to whether you believe that signed message of what Lauda intended to do, and I happen to believe that it wasn't an actual extortion attempt.  And that image is of the assertion, not the proof, of harassment.  What can I tell you?  I don't have all the facts; I know QS is an escrow scammer; I know Lauda never had a history of scamming; thus I choose to think that thing is as Lauda said it is--an ill-advised sting operation. 

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how can you be sure it was a trustworthy sting operation if you dont know what it was about ?
I'm not 100% sure of anything, but it comes down to whether you believe that signed message of what Lauda intended to do, and I happen to believe that it wasn't an actual extortion attempt.  



i can sign a message that i am going to test the banks security before i rob it so if i get caught i can just produce my signed message and get away with it ?


i am done digging facts for you
lauda tman and owlcatz have not denied the harassing phone calls


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Hey idiot, read more, post less. Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.msg17629087#msg17629087


he wanted the situation to be over

This case has been settled already. Not a single satoshi of payment was made to the attempt and everything was handled privately. The extortion attempt was made for "good intent" and was aimed for me to release information for my apparent "crimes". Crazy speculations without any proof. A very bad attempt to play law enforcement by themselves indeed, trying to beat information out by threatening me with crimes I never did. I wasted alot of time into this now and all I got was a bad name from it for apparent criminal activity.
However, I believe this blackmail and extortion attempt already brought fair consequences, as lauda is no longer a staff member anymore and until lauda or someone else accuses me of more apparent "crimes", I believe this case can be closed. I had enough from witch trials and don't want to get involved in another one. All I want now is to clean my name again.
As of now, my full dox has been handed out to the "investigation" team, which makes me very uncomfortable and wish to be deleted and NOT published in any way.

Also, TMAN was only involved because he has started all the heat by accusing me of a hacker and was totally against me for a while. He has now calmed down and apologized for his actions.

Edit:
Lauda did not give me an address to send the extortion payment to.


IF YOU THINK LAUDA IS TRUSTWORTHY YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY


The Pharmacist and the rest of the lauda defending cult are UNTRUSTWORTHY


I know QS is an escrow scammer

quickseller is an escrow DECEIVER but not scammer
he scammed no one
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how can you be sure it was a trustworthy sting operation if you dont know what it was about ?
I'm not 100% sure of anything, but it comes down to whether you believe that signed message of what Lauda intended to do, and I happen to believe that it wasn't an actual extortion attempt.  And that image is of the assertion, not the proof, of harassment.  What can I tell you?  I don't have all the facts; I know QS is an escrow scammer; I know Lauda never had a history of scamming; thus I choose to think that thing is as Lauda said it is--an ill-advised sting operation.  

Well you therefore choose to take the word of a PROVEN liar. I wonder why?

So you are not sure if he is guilty as charged with the extortion. You say you do not understand if there is wrongdoing with the escrow business?

Come on, be sensible. Is it not the case as you have admitted before that you feel you are loyal to Lauda?

Let's say okay you are just a broke ass bum that needs to spam under a sock puppet account for btc dust but have not done anything such as actual scamming or anything we can see that is actually dangerous to the forum.

However when combined with supporting and being loyal and supporting lauda even though you know he is a liar, you say you do not understand if there was wrong doing in the escrow debacle and you choose to believe him in the extortion scheme.

Then this all starts to look a lot worse for you. Hence you certainly need to be having a swift change of heart toward more trustworthy behaviour else it should be the duty of any honest member to see you removed from dt, merit source and indeed perhaps think of making sure it is difficult for you to remain on any sig campaigns since this would reflect poorly upon them and their project. I'm sure they would prefer to keep away from persons demonstrating untrustworthy tendencies.

This is simply the course of action that any honest and upright member should perhaps consider for those that are willingly and willfully supporting such persons.

I'm not actually any longer advocating any of you are banned but you must all be stripped of the powers you have observably abused and blacklisted or held back from inflicting  more damage to innocent and honest members. I just hope this will be possible without ensuring that you also must all be cut off from damaging the image of the projects whom are perhaps unknowingly financing such blatant abusers and those that have acted in such an untrustworthy manner.

It is unfortunate that you all must be relieved of these powers since it is true that you have all put some effort into finding some scammers and have likely done some good deeds. If you had all been more reasonable and agreed to operate inside the mandate that Theymos just clarified to some degree ergo removing all red that is not directly related to scamming in some form and allowed fair representation on DT of some persons that are not part of your observable clique. Perhaps then an agreement could have been reached. Going forward from that only persons directly related to scamming would be tagged and things could perhaps start to improve.

Sadly I see no chance of such agreement taking place so it seems there will be a protracted war between those that are painted red but have not directly scammed or even been proven to be related to any scam and those that are not sticking to and have not stuck to the mandate theymos broadly laid out for DT.

There can be only 1 eventual winner from this position and that is the victims here because they really have nothing to lose. They can just keep turning up the heat and the intensity until something gives. So long as they operate within the rules and stick to presenting facts that are on topic and relevant and push for fairness and equality for all -- then there is no stopping them.

I can not speak for this union of persons here, however the sensible approach from current DT if they really care about the board is to undo their trust abuse, stop hogging all DT positions and allow others whom have done nothing untrustworthy ever (something they themselves can not claim even) and get on with finding real scammers and scams.

 They will not do it so they will end up losing but the heat will need to be turned up under them. Many of them are sig dependent as we can observe. This is something that needs examining as I suspect the main reason the pharmacist is considering some middle ground.  There is no middle ground, there is just trust abuse or no trust abuse. We will not tolerate abuse so best start to comprehend this before the facts demonstrating truth cost you more even than perhaps you deserve to lose on this board.

I agree with the post above. If you support those that trust abuse, then you too abuse the power given to you as a DT member. This system relies upon DT members excluding other DT members who abuse. So you support or even neglect to exclude those abusing trust, you are an abuser of the trust system.This has been made very clear now by Theymos. No more bullshit lemons or I think you can scam because you swear. NO NO.... you have a clear mandate now and those on DT not excluding clear trust abusers now are also trust abusers by their non action.

Any DT that is prepared to undo their trust abuse for ALL subjective red trust not directly related to scamming and exclude others that are for now unwilling could be given public agreement by this union (if all agree) to accepted and treated as a reformed character. This however can not apply to any DT proven a scammer. This public agreement will be set in stone as long as they only ever red trust for behaviour directly related to scamming and do not scam themselves.

I do not expect many to decide to take this offer even if it was valid (which is it not unless the entire union of abused persons agrees to it) but it is something to consider for both sides for when things start to heat up further in the future. I really do see the entire board going up into almost anarchy unless we can fix it now.

We the abused and mistreated ask for nothing we should not already have given freely. Prove any of us scammed or are directly related to scamming or remove the red and also allow fair representation on DT or explain why we should not have it. Why should those that have never scammed for years and are proven by our track record here be prevented from DT?  I have no desire for DT but would like to see some older legends who are not part of cliques perhaps some from many different sub forums to be there.

I would like to see a rule set in stone:

Anyone red trusting someone who is not directly related to a scam or are a proven scammer should be excluded at once by all other DT members unless they remove it immediately. Red trust is a waste of time unless it represents scamming or scammers and persons that are provably a high risk to the trading and finances of others here. It must not be allowed to be used as a tool to intimidate nor bully honest members who do not share DT members view or ideologies to the letter.

The above is just one possible solution that all persons could consider and we could discuss sensibly as a community.






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February 07, 2019, 02:53:35 AM
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how can you be sure it was a trustworthy sting operation if you dont know what it was about ?
I'm not 100% sure of anything, but it comes down to whether you believe that signed message of what Lauda intended to do, and I happen to believe that it wasn't an actual extortion attempt.  And that image is of the assertion, not the proof, of harassment.  What can I tell you?  I don't have all the facts; I know QS is an escrow scammer; I know Lauda never had a history of scamming; thus I choose to think that thing is as Lauda said it is--an ill-advised sting operation.  

Well you therefore choose to take the word of a PROVEN liar. I wonder why?

So you are not sure if he is guilty as charged with the extortion. You say you do not understand if there is wrongdoing with the escrow business?

Come on, be sensible. Is it not the case as you have admitted before that you feel you are loyal to Lauda?

Let's say okay you are just a broke ass bum that needs to spam under a sock puppet account for btc dust but have not done anything such as actual scamming or anything we can see that is actually dangerous to the forum.

However when combined with supporting and being loyal and supporting lauda even though you know he is a liar, you say you do not understand if there was wrong doing in the escrow debacle and you choose to believe him in the extortion scheme.

Then this all starts to look a lot worse for you. Hence you certainly need to be having a swift change of heart toward more trustworthy behaviour else it should be the duty of any honest member to see you removed from dt, merit source and indeed perhaps think of making sure it is difficult for you to remain on any sig campaigns since this would reflect poorly upon them and their project. I'm sure they would prefer to keep away from persons demonstrating untrustworthy tendencies.

This is simply the course of action that any honest and upright member should perhaps consider for those that are willingly and willfully supporting such persons.

I'm not actually any longer advocating any of you are banned but you must all be stripped of the powers you have observably abused and blacklisted or held back from inflicting  more damage to innocent and honest members. I just hope this will be possible without ensuring that you also must all be cut off from damaging the image of the projects whom are perhaps unknowingly financing such blatant abusers and those that have acted in such an untrustworthy manner.

It is unfortunate that you all must be relieved of these powers since it is true that you have all put some effort into finding some scammers and have likely done some good deeds. If you had all been more reasonable and agreed to operate inside the mandate that Theymos just clarified to some degree ergo removing all red that is not directly related to scamming in some form and allowed fair representation on DT of some persons that are not part of your observable clique. Perhaps then an agreement could have been reached. Going forward from that only persons directly related to scamming would be tagged and things could perhaps start to improve.

Sadly I see no chance of such agreement taking place so it seems there will be a protracted war between those that are painted red but have not directly scammed or even been proven to be related to any scam and those that are not sticking to and have not stuck to the mandate theymos broadly laid out for DT.

There can be only 1 eventual winner from this position and that is the victims here because they really have nothing to lose. They can just keep turning up the heat and the intensity until something gives. So long as they operate within the rules and stick to presenting facts that are on topic and relevant and push for fairness and equality for all -- then there is no stopping them.

I can not speak for this union of persons here, however the sensible approach from current DT if they really care about the board is to undo their trust abuse, stop hogging all DT positions and allow others whom have done nothing untrustworthy ever (something they themselves can not claim even) and get on with finding real scammers and scams.

 They will not do it so they will end up losing but the heat will need to be turned up under them. Many of them are sig dependent as we can observe. This is something that needs examining as I suspect the main reason the pharmacist is considering some middle ground.  There is no middle ground, there is just trust abuse or no trust abuse. We will not tolerate abuse so best start to comprehend this before the facts demonstrating truth cost you more even than perhaps you deserve to lose on this board.

I agree with the post above. If you support those that trust abuse, then you too abuse the power given to you as a DT member. This system relies upon DT members excluding other DT members who abuse. So you support or even neglect to exclude those abusing trust, you are an abuser of the trust system.This has been made very clear now by Theymos. No more bullshit lemons or I think you can scam because you swear. NO NO.... you have a clear mandate now and those on DT not excluding clear trust abusers now are also trust abusers by their non action.

Any DT that is prepared to undo their trust abuse for ALL subjective red trust not directly related to scamming and exclude others that are for now unwilling could be given public agreement by this union (if all agree) to accepted and treated as a reformed character. This however can not apply to any DT proven a scammer. This public agreement will be set in stone as long as they only ever red trust for behaviour directly related to scamming and do not scam themselves.

I do not expect many to decide to take this offer even if it was valid (which is it not unless the entire union of abused persons agrees to it) but it is something to consider for both sides for when things start to heat up further in the future. I really do see the entire board going up into almost anarchy unless we can fix it now.

We the abused and mistreated ask for nothing we should not already have given freely. Prove any of us scammed or are directly related to scamming or remove the red and also allow fair representation on DT or explain why we should not have it. Why should those that have never scammed for years and are proven by our track record here be prevented from DT?  I have no desire for DT but would like to see some older legends who are not part of cliques perhaps some from many different sub forums to be there.

I would like to see a rule set in stone:

Anyone red trusting someone who is not directly related to a scam or are a proven scammer should be excluded at once by all other DT members unless they remove it immediately. Red trust is a waste of time unless it represents scamming or scammers and persons that are provably a high risk to the trading and finances of others here. It must not be allowed to be used as a tool to intimidate nor bully honest members who do not share DT members view or ideologies to the letter.

The above is just one possible solution that all persons could consider and we could discuss sensibly as a community.





looks sensible to me


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the people will never be free unless we continually resist tyranny it will always seek its niche
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looks sensible to me


this forum is supposed to be a bastion of freedom but these people want the power as they sense a vacuum

Glad you agree.

No man left behind . Every single person who is not a scammer who just has some subjective nonsense marking their account red must be reversed.

Also please could we add mOgliE to the excludes. This proven liar stated in public if i provided evidence of lauda lying then he would remove him and add me. I presented the evidence and the scumbag liar ran off. Supports all the main 3 scum bags too.

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looks sensible to me


this forum is supposed to be a bastion of freedom but these people want the power as they sense a vacuum

Glad you agree.

No man left behind . Every single person who is not a scammer who just has some subjective nonsense marking their account red must be reversed.

Also please could we add mOgliE to the excludes. This proven liar stated in public if i provided evidence of lauda lying then he would remove him and add me. I presented the evidence and the scumbag liar ran off. Supports all the main 3 scum bags too.

You're like Vampires thirsting for blood.  Just stop.
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looks sensible to me


this forum is supposed to be a bastion of freedom but these people want the power as they sense a vacuum

Glad you agree.

No man left behind . Every single person who is not a scammer who just has some subjective nonsense marking their account red must be reversed.

Also please could we add mOgliE to the excludes. This proven liar stated in public if i provided evidence of lauda lying then he would remove him and add me. I presented the evidence and the scumbag liar ran off. Supports all the main 3 scum bags too.

You're like Vampires thirsting for blood.  Just stop.

explain and justify your statement..... you wish to trust a  proven liar that supports other proven liars? why would you wish such a person to be left to lie to others and deceive them at will ? also by his inclusions of lauda tman etc he willing enables abuse of honest persons by their hands.

if you can explain yourself then perhaps you will not appear to be defending a proven liar and enabler of other liars and trust abusers?

Only the abusers can stop this. They need to delete their abuse else it can not and should not stop.

It is building a nice steady momentum and more organisation will only increase the effectiveness of the quest for fair and equal treatment for all persons here.

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looks sensible to me


this forum is supposed to be a bastion of freedom but these people want the power as they sense a vacuum

Glad you agree.

No man left behind . Every single person who is not a scammer who just has some subjective nonsense marking their account red must be reversed.

Also please could we add mOgliE to the excludes. This proven liar stated in public if i provided evidence of lauda lying then he would remove him and add me. I presented the evidence and the scumbag liar ran off. Supports all the main 3 scum bags too.

You're like Vampires thirsting for blood.  Just stop.

explain and justify your statement..... you wish to trust a  proven liar that supports other proven liars? why would you wish such a person to be left to lie to others and deceive them at will ? also by his inclusions of lauda tman etc he willing enables abuse of honest persons by their hands.

if you can explain yourself then perhaps you will not appear to be defending a proven liar and enabler of other liars and trust abusers?

You quoted 3 people...You talking to me?
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I see your Negative trust.  It's wrong and i don't agree with it. Like i have said before i don't agree with some things Lauda does or says.  You have to understand most of these DT Members have ZERO life outside of BCT and want to play superhero on here...This is what they do. This is what makes them relevant iin the world.  Their red paint means they want attentiion and are screaming for help.

No person their right mind spends 8-10 hours a day on a forum judging peoples posts and leaving negative feedback is in their right minds.

They are abusive losers and it can't be fixed until theymos puts his foot down and say enough.

Tolerate it if you can uuntil the system breaks or theymos comes to his right mind and fixes it.
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I see your Negative trust.  It's wrong and i don't agree with it. Like i have said before i don't agree with some things Lauda does or says.  You have to understand most of these DT Members have ZERO life outside of BCT and want to play superhero on here...This is what they do. This is what makes them relevant iin the world.  Their red paint means they want attentiion and are screaming for help.

No person their right mind spends 8-10 hours a day on a forum judging peoples posts and leaving negative feedback is in their right minds.

They are abusive losers and it can't be fixed until theymos puts his foot down and say enough.

Tolerate it if you can uuntil the system breaks or theymos comes to his right mind and fixes it.

I hope you are right. Theymos has made one good step lately and that is more or less to tell them that unless someone is scamming or trying to scam then leave them alone to enjoy their freedom of expression and freedom to have their own opinions.

I hope these persons will follow his advice or else he really does push through custom trust lists for every person here with no such thing as DT

thanks for encouraging words.

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