Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17

[philipma1957]

They calculate tariff off of a full price (coupons or credits don't count) PLUS shipping.
SO, full invoice price with shipping has to be below 800, imho.

i have found

1) fedex.   really strict on collecting
2) ups.     less strict
3) dhl.      least strict

but they all grab money.

sometimes dhl simply collects less then i expected

ups rarely collects less then i expected

fedex always collects full tariffs.

there are a lot of rules i don't fully understand.

i do know this every sale is fully new jeresy sales taxable  which means

1000 sale is 276+20 or 30 paper work fee. so that is say 306 and then 70 in NJ tax so 376 in taxes on a 1000 dollar item.

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[minefarmbuy]

Nice thing about Oregon, no sales tax.

[MoparMiningLLC]

My T17 order came today - Ahead of schedule. Was supposed to ship on 21st and it arrived on 21st miners up and hashing

[philipma1957]

my first t17 was purchased right before coins jumped in april 2019 was a nice cheap price it has run pretty much flawless since april.
my second t17 will arrive on monday the 23rd . I am hopeful this one is just as good.

[MoparMiningLLC]

my first t17 was purchased right before coins jumped in april 2019 was a nice cheap price it has run pretty much flawless since april.
my second t17 will arrive on monday the 23rd . I am hopeful this one is just as good.

I agree - mine has worked flawlessly. my first one was expensive - bought in May, was 1400 but I used a 368 coupon so that helped. this last one was the cheapest one I have had so far at 805

as a side note, all the T17's I have bought were listed/sold as 40TH/s units, they are averaging 42-43 though so I am also happy with that.

[philipma1957]

yeah the april one is close to having paid itself off. it ranges in the 41-43th area.

[Biodom]

One t17e on the other hand, which i got something like three weeks ago, already lost one board.
I would stay away from + and e, they seem to be just overclocked regular miners with bad results.
not happy.

[philipma1957]

gear will arrive today  I just paid tax bill. I paid a low fee maybe due to it having a coupon and being under $800.00.

I will still owe 7% to NJ for sale tax. which will be about 56 to 60 usd more. I will pay that when I file my NJ state taxes.

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[MoparMiningLLC]

ok - I asked this before and I might be getting confused - if I order this T17 the price is 818.00 shipping is 123.95, brings it to 941.95 - then I use the coupon of 150, which drops price to 791.95.

In reference to tariff limit of 800 - which is used to calculate tariff?

a) 818.00 (base price)
b) 668.00 (base - coupon)
c) 941.95 (base + shipping)
d) 791.95 (base + shipping - coupon)

[philipma1957]

all of the above could be used.

you best shot of not paying trump tax.

is using dhl.

and hope for the best.

i say this because my invoices have been calculated all four methods and have been taxed by all four methods.
fedex always maxes taxes
ups mostly maxes taxes
dhl sometimes maxes taxes.

now i know you may want an official ruling as to which method is correct.

don’t push it as the beginning of all these taxes started with someone that wanted a precise definition and the worst definition was found and many people were forced to pay back taxes.

i have had some luck with dhl this year.
and zero luck with fedex.

so buy one use dhl and pray you get lucky.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Thats kind of what I thought - I tried looking at my prior invoices and some seem like its after coupon value but then includes shipping. 2 or 3 are that way and then one appears to be just on the base value so meh - all of mine have been DHL except the last one which was UPS.

I may place an order - prolly will be on Jan 3rd though.

[philipma1957]

I figure if I wait till it drops to Under 800.00 I should be good. The Jan 11 to Jan 20 model is 818.00

just a bit lower and I will order.

[MoparMiningLLC]

makes me wish I had like a 350 coupon to toss on em - maybe buy 2 lol.

[Biodom]

Hey, does anybody know if S17+ or T17+ come from Malaysia or China?
Thanks.

[PopoJeff]

Hey, does anybody know if S17+ or T17+ come from Malaysia or China?
Thanks.

Ive gotten two of the S17+, and one s17e....... all shipped in from China (with tariff)

[taserz]

Hey, does anybody know if S17+ or T17+ come from Malaysia or China?
Thanks.

Sometimes it tells you on checkout.

Try to ship it to a HK address and if there is an option for EXPRESS SF click it. If it tells you it can't ship express SF it's coming from Malaysia. Then just change to your home address

[HagssFIN]

@taserz
That's a nice 'read between the lines' -method.
I like it.  

[philipma1957]

The only Malaysian gear for me has been the s17 pros.

Every one since Nov 1 has come from Malaysia.

[Biffa]

S17+ models are shipping from Shenzhen  

[Philipma1957cellphone]

Trump and co. Smiling  as.we pay that 27.6% on the s17+.

I paid thousands last year.