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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Winner: ITALY!  (Read 31321 times)
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July 08, 2021, 08:46:11 PM
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Cristiano Ronaldo the top scorers at EURO 2020 so far, and leads the Golden Boot race. If Harry Kane shows another great performance at EURO 2020 Final overall math could be changed. He has been in great form since the start of this tournament. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo as player of the tournament and Harry Kane as Golden boot winners.

Ronaldo would definitely not be player of the tournament, He doesn't even come close If you're to name 5 players of the tournament if you ask me. There will be at least 2-3 players from both England, Italy and Denmark ahead of him. I would like to see him win the Golden Boot, but as for player of the tournament, it will be totally undeserving.

Putting all my money on England now.

Don't take Italy too light, they seem to have a mission to lift the Euro 2020 and this mission is not impossible.  Smiley

It's literally anyone's game, the Italians might be more solid defensively but then England does have the capacity and quality offensively to make the life really tough for the Bonucci and his folks at the back. I'll give the edge to Italy simply because they seemed more disciplined.

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July 08, 2021, 08:46:37 PM
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Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a bhttp://etter chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck  .
Harry Kane is no match for Italian defense line, sorry to say that. Yeah, I'm happy with the result from yesterday's game, with England beating Denmark to the finals, at least it would be a good to watch match becuase, England would be more challenging to Italy than it would have been with Denmark. The thing is, I strongly believe its going to be a win match for Italy.

About Harry kane breaking Ronaldo's record or equating it, it would be a hard to archive one with Italy as, they would be keeping a close watch on Kane and Sterling. They are the once that have contributed the most to the success of the English team so far. It won't be easy for these guys.
I agree, I do not see how Denmark could win against Italy and I even have problems thinking on them being able to compete against them, England at least has a chance not only in terms of the quality of their players but also in terms of the fact they are home and they are going to push themselves to the limit in order to win to give their fans the satisfaction to see them win, but after saying all of that I still think Italy is going to win this game as I think it is the best team out of the two.
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July 08, 2021, 08:47:44 PM
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He will have an undeniable Golden Boot if he overtakes Ronaldo in the number of goals scored, but if he just catches up with him, it seems to me that Ronaldo will have a clear advantage in terms of the number of matches played. Obviously, a player who scores the same number of goals in fewer matches deserves a reward.

Im not sure where do you got this from but this is not the rules. The official rules clearly state that the winner of the Golden Boot would be the player that scored the most goal in the entire Euro and in case of same number of goals then the tie breaker would be the number of assist. So Kane will need atleast 2 goals or another goal and two assist to overtake Ronaldo

I don't know if this is possible yet or not, but what if they have the same statistics on goals scored and assists? In my opinion, the player who made this achievement in fewer matches should get an advantage, but what do the rules say about this? In fact, I hardly remember such controversial situations in the past - apparently so far such a question has simply not arisen.
Yes it has. There was one EURO or World Cup when we had three guys with same number of goals. I am thinking Villa/Muller or Klose/one more. Not sure anymore if they had some tie breaker but I remember having a big bet on Villa and waiting for decision from bookies. What is funny I don't remember if I won the bet in the end Smiley Memory hah

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July 08, 2021, 10:58:36 PM
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What can I say about my prediction? I was close, because result is 4:0.

Guys, you should have to see what happened in ukrainian pubs and bars at 3rd of July. Angry disappointed people everywhere. In some places people crushed pubs stuff like goblets and tables.

This is the "normal".
The more you are going to west Europe the more you will find this kind of behavior.
I'm not saying we are better people here in the east-Centre Europe but in the west, they are more problematic.

Anywayyyy.

Chiesa should be able to recover for the final, he got a spasm during the last game.

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July 08, 2021, 11:13:54 PM
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the Italians might be more solid defensively but then England does have the capacity and quality offensively to make the life really tough for the Bonucci and his folks at the back. I'll give the edge to Italy simply because they seemed more disciplined.
Don't forget England's defense line is also quite strong! Just check again how many its conceded goals during this tournament, it is almost the same as Italy. They have very few conceded goals. It means England defenders also played as discipline as Italian defenders. While for the attacking line, most of us should agree that England's attackers are a bit better. Based on these considerations, I believe England has a better chance to win the final of EURO 2020. However, we just can guess it, the result surely is unpredictable.

>Another important thing: which team is more prepared both in mentality and strategy, those who will win the final match.

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July 09, 2021, 12:06:41 AM
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I just want to say how good that Italy VS Spain game was and I feel like I was accurate with my predictions and I made some money from it too! The Italians deserve to go through and I think they will beat England in a couple of days too. England just have not got that mentality that is needed to be winners and I do not mean winning a match I mean winning a big tournament. I saw it on the news today that they have not won anything since like 50 odd years which is quite surprising when you think back and what kind of players they have had.
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July 09, 2021, 12:27:16 AM
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I saw it on the news today that they have not won anything since like 50 odd years which is quite surprising when you think back and what kind of players they have had.
Yes past history, they tried to break it all. I think they have a great chance of solving that problem. Today they are in front of their own audience. They have a better mentality here. I believe that with England, if they can take the lead within 120 minutes without a penalty, then England's chances are better. It's different if it goes to penalties, I think Italy has high hopes of having a tournament title this time.

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July 09, 2021, 12:39:23 AM
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I saw it on the news today that they have not won anything since like 50 odd years which is quite surprising when you think back and what kind of players they have had.
Yes past history, they tried to break it all. I think they have a great chance of solving that problem. Today they are in front of their own audience. They have a better mentality here. I believe that with England, if they can take the lead within 120 minutes without a penalty, then England's chances are better. It's different if it goes to penalties, I think Italy has high hopes of having a tournament title this time.

Although I think Italy has a greater ability to win the game. I believe England has enough arguments to do it too.

So I think England has a unique opportunity, after so many years without awards, to make it this year.
It has a squad capable of winning and if it uses the right strategy, it will overcome the difficulties created by the Italians.

England only problem is their goalkeeper. That should be your frank point. And that's why I agree if they go to penalties they are more likely to lose.

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July 09, 2021, 06:39:10 AM
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Although I think Italy has a greater ability to win the game. I believe England has enough arguments to do it too.

So I think England has a unique opportunity, after so many years without awards, to make it this year.
It has a squad capable of winning and if it uses the right strategy, it will overcome the difficulties created by the Italians.
Spain were considered worse than Italy but they controlled the match with overwhelming ball possession. England are not stronger than Italy but they have home stadium Wembley and spectators as well as referees behind. If Italy don't play smart and make too many faults around dangerous areas, England might take advantage of referee decisions and win the final.

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England only problem is their goalkeeper. That should be your frank point. And that's why I agree if they go to penalties they are more likely to lose.
The biggest problem of England is Southgate. He is too observative and does not react fastly with match situation. He waits too late to make substitutions and are fearful of changes or substitutions.
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July 09, 2021, 07:21:49 AM
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We have 2 days left for the final game. England are really lucky that they're going to play in the home stadium. Let's see whether they will manage to turn it into an advantage. Because they should be prepared really well against a team like Italy. Their job will be too hard against them.

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July 09, 2021, 07:31:39 AM
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The biggest problem of England is Southgate. He is too observative and does not react fastly with match situation. He waits too late to make substitutions and are fearful of changes or substitutions.
This is not true, at least in my opinion. Gareth Southgate has been really good thus far in this tournament, especially in his team selection and that's the reason why England have gone this far, making it to the final, coaches do not really rush into making substitutions, as they try to observe how the game is going, if it needs a substitution yet, or if the players on the pitch can still turn the game around; Southgate is a good coach, and I'm pretty sure England as a nation will be happy to have him as their manager.
England only problem is their goalkeeper. That should be your frank point. And that's why I agree if they go to penalties they are more likely to lose.
Pickford makes errors once in a while and I personally think sometimes he is over enthusiastic, but generally he is not a bad goalkeeper, and in this tournament thus far he has been good, keeping a good amount of cleansheets and helping the team when they need him, I don't think he'll be a disadvantage to England should the game to to a penalty shoot-out.

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This controversial penalty is a heavy psychological burden on the English team.  And after all, each player subconsciously guesses that the game could have ended with a completely different score.  In games of this level, the psychological state of each player is important.  And this penalty is a very bad factor affecting the psyche of the player.  So even before the game with Italy, the British have a problem.  But let's see how they handle it.  Indeed, in this sense, the Italians are superior to them in past games.  They did not have such traumatic situations for the psychological state of the players.

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italy and england are said to be on their way to london after winning the two semifinal matches against spain and denmark Grin Grin


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July 09, 2021, 08:47:26 AM
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England only problem is their goalkeeper. That should be your frank point. And that's why I agree if they go to penalties they are more likely to lose.


England's goalkeeper Jordan Pickford is clearly going to win the Golden Gloves award at Euro 2020 after achieving the most clean sheets at the tournament with five matches in a row. I can't see how he could be a problem.

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July 09, 2021, 08:50:29 AM
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Didn't watch it either, all the games are just way too late for me (so kind of frustrating for all these internationals halfway round the globe!).

Here in India, matches are scheduled at 12:30 am - 2:30 am. I watched the first semi-final between Spain and Italy, but then it was impossible to watch the second one between England and Denmark, since it happened the very next day. My office work starts at 9am, so I need to get up by around 7:30am-8:00 am, which is not possible if I watch these matches. Now they have scheduled the next match on Sunday, which is again a very poor decision. Ideally they should have scheduled it on Saturday.

These are the normal times for all matches.
The same happens when the games are outside Europe, the times are the same in the country where the games take place.

The final is usually on Sunday, because normally in these international competitions there is a third and fourth place game, which takes place on Saturday. It's true that at the European Football Championship this game doesn't exist. But keep the same standard calendar.

It is a bit better for you guys then. I am currently 7 hours ahead of UK time:) it sometimes gets to 8 when daylight changes (I'm not sure when that is). So imagine a 8pm game which is what most of the games started for EURO, it is 4am for me. I can still try to stay up (or wake up early) but the effects on my work the next day are very very evident  Tongue

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I don't know if this is possible yet or not, but what if they have the same statistics on goals scored and assists? In my opinion, the player who made this achievement in fewer matches should get an advantage, but what do the rules say about this? In fact, I hardly remember such controversial situations in the past - apparently so far such a question has simply not arisen.
Yes it has. There was one EURO or World Cup when we had three guys with same number of goals. I am thinking Villa/Muller or Klose/one more. Not sure anymore if they had some tie breaker but I remember having a big bet on Villa and waiting for decision from bookies. What is funny I don't remember if I won the bet in the end Smiley Memory hah

At the moment, the opinion of the bookmakers regarding the top scorer of the tournament looks like this:

Ronaldo 2,45
Schick   2,45
Kane     4,25
Sterling 20,70

Maybe there will be two golden boots this year? In the end, this is logical - I have not seen in any store that you can buy just one boot  Grin
Hopefully Kane doesn't disturb this puzzle.

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July 09, 2021, 08:51:34 AM
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We have 2 days left for the final game. England are really lucky that they're going to play in the home stadium. Let's see whether they will manage to turn it into an advantage. Because they should be prepared really well against a team like Italy. Their job will be too hard against them.
Looking forward to this match and really hope Italy will make it .
England is and was for sure lucky the last 2 games that they have played in there home stadium , also i guess they would be not this far if they havnt played there.
Italy can beat them im sure but it will be hard for them too and i hope we see an nice and good final match of the EM.

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What is the referee doing?  Grin Roll Eyes
A reference to his guilt performance?  Cheesy
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We have 2 days left for the final game. England are really lucky that they're going to play in the home stadium. Let's see whether they will manage to turn it into an advantage. Because they should be prepared really well against a team like Italy. Their job will be too hard against them.
Looking forward to this match and really hope Italy will make it .
England is and was for sure lucky the last 2 games that they have played in there home stadium , also i guess they would be not this far if they havnt played there.
Italy can beat them im sure but it will be hard for them too and i hope we see an nice and good final match of the EM.

England are playing at very high speeds. The physical form of the players is very high. I think Italy will be quite difficult in this match. They can learn from a strict play on the defensive and good luck in counter attacks. But I am more inclined towards the victory of England.
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What is the referee doing?  Grin Roll Eyes
A reference to his guilt performance?  Cheesy

that's exactly how it is - found the cartoon really fitting and funny at the same time  Cheesy Grin
the referee for the final on sunday has now also been announced. it is the dutch Björn Kuipers - its the first dutchman who will lead a final at a european or world championship

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