Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[DigitalFarns]

That's insane!  That's like 25% win rate. 

Just checked my emails and I'm 0 for 29. Maybe today will be lucky number 30.  LOL

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[generalt]

I was 4 of 7 back in early March... now I'm 6 of 32. Yuck...

much like you.

Maybe just a bit better.  but last win was April 1st.

Same here.  I did much better in the earlier months and it's been a very dry April. 

[philipma1957]

That's insane!  That's like 25% win rate.  

Just checked my emails and I'm 0 for 29. Maybe today will be lucky number 30.  LOL

I think it was simply a function Of trying in Late Jan Feb or March,

I think it fell down for everyone in late March and April.

Too many bots with fake ips fake emails and fake addresses allow for 10x the chance of a single person that is legit.

I also think everyone is now signed up for the shuffle.

As it is a shot at making good money even if you just flip the card on craigs list.


And lost again.

Maybe on Friday.

[kcheel]

I am still batting 0% with the Shuffle also.  Missed a few days but other than that been entering every day since probably mid March.  I would just like to complete out my 8 GPU rig, which currently has 5 cards in it.  Was going to pull the 3080 out of the system its in and put it in there but leaning towards selling it now.  Rather stick to 3060/3070's in it.

[philipma1957]

I am still batting 0% with the Shuffle also.  Missed a few days but other than that been entering every day since probably mid March.  I would just like to complete out my 8 GPU rig, which currently has 5 cards in it.  Was going to pull the 3080 out of the system its in and put it in there but leaning towards selling it now.  Rather stick to 3060/3070's in it.

Yeah the 3080 pulls solid power.

I would prefer 3060ti or 3070 for large rigs.

[DigitalFarns]

So I read an article last night, saying that Nvidia was re-nerfing the 3060's.  I hadn't followed this super closely since none were available to buy, but I think my understanding was this:
 - They came from the factory nerfed for mining.
 - They accidently released a driver update that didn't have the nerfification applied, and tried to retract it, but ooops, too late - it's out in the wild and everybody downloaded it to bypass the nerf. 
 - Now they plan to release all new GPUs with another update that re-nerfs the boards. 

So my question is, can we all still just re apply that accidental driver update to bypass again?  I know nothing of modding or updating GPUs yet, I'm not messing with the rig I bought unless I have to.  Just leaving everything running as is.  But I am curious for these future boards.  Will we be able to override them?

[philipma1957]

Newegg Shuffle closes very soon 4 minutes

[vapourminer]

So I read an article last night, saying that Nvidia was re-nerfing the 3060's.  I hadn't followed this super closely since none were available to buy, but I think my understanding was this:
 - They came from the factory nerfed for mining.
 - They accidently released a driver update that didn't have the nerfification applied, and tried to retract it, but ooops, too late - it's out in the wild and everybody downloaded it to bypass the nerf. 
 - Now they plan to release all new GPUs with another update that re-nerfs the boards. 

So my question is, can we all still just re apply that accidental driver update to bypass again?  I know nothing of modding or updating GPUs yet, I'm not messing with the rig I bought unless I have to.  Just leaving everything running as is.  But I am curious for these future boards.  Will we be able to override them?

seems like they will prevent that. heres an article from anandtech explaining it a bit. a small quote below.

In short, NVIDIA has tweaked future RTX 3060 cards to require this driver (or newer), which will prevent them from using older drivers that can bypass NVIDIA’s hash limiter. As a result, RTX 3060 cards shipping starting in mid-May will once again be fully locked down against running Ethereum at full (native) speed.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16648/nvidia-updates-geforce-rtx-3060-ethereum-throttle-updated-drivers-required-for-future-3060s

[philipma1957]

So I read an article last night, saying that Nvidia was re-nerfing the 3060's.  I hadn't followed this super closely since none were available to buy, but I think my understanding was this:
 - They came from the factory nerfed for mining.
 - They accidently released a driver update that didn't have the nerfification applied, and tried to retract it, but ooops, too late - it's out in the wild and everybody downloaded it to bypass the nerf. 
 - Now they plan to release all new GPUs with another update that re-nerfs the boards. 

So my question is, can we all still just re apply that accidental driver update to bypass again?  I know nothing of modding or updating GPUs yet, I'm not messing with the rig I bought unless I have to.  Just leaving everything running as is.  But I am curious for these future boards.  Will we be able to override them?

seems like they will prevent that. heres an article from anandtech explaining it a bit. a small quote below.

In short, NVIDIA has tweaked future RTX 3060 cards to require this driver (or newer), which will prevent them from using older drivers that can bypass NVIDIA’s hash limiter. As a result, RTX 3060 cards shipping starting in mid-May will once again be fully locked down against running Ethereum at full (native) speed.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16648/nvidia-updates-geforce-rtx-3060-ethereum-throttle-updated-drivers-required-for-future-3060s

missed the shuffle.


the 3060 makes money mining octopus.

it burns about 115 watts say 3kwatts a day.

or 60 cents with 20 cent power.

it earns 3.30

so 3.30- .60 is $2.70 daily profit.

150 days is 405 return. I paid 428 for my card.

So I think that nerfing it for eth is simply a waste of time.

The card has a three year warranty.

so that is 1000 days. if it clears 2.70 a day it makes over 2700 in three years. mining octopus.

frankly if you have a chance to make 2700 in three years for 428 it would be a steal.

which is why they are wasting their time attempting to nerf the card.

[kcheel]

Been trying for several weeks to get a L3+ or two at a decent price and they keep going up.  Finally got 2 today for $1200 total with no PSU.  Got a couple of extra HP 1200's laying around, so that works out. Hope they are legit, as they supposedly have a bunch more.  Paid with Paypal, so not too worried. 

[philipma1957]

Been trying for several weeks to get a L3+ or two at a decent price and they keep going up.  Finally got 2 today for $1200 total with no PSU.  Got a couple of extra HP 1200's laying around, so that works out. Hope they are legit, as they supposedly have a bunch more.  Paid with Paypal, so not too worried.  

Yeah the l3+ is very likely the best asic ever made in terms of profits.

I find it hard to believe how well I have done with them.

Shuffle coming up

A lot of cards !

1)
GIGABYTE GV-N3060VISION OC-12GD Vision GeForce RTX 3060 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3060VISION OC-12GD Vision GeForce RTX 3060 Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$634.98


2)
GIGABYTE GV-N3060VISION OC-12GD Vision GeForce RTX 3060 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3060VISION OC-12GD Vision GeForce RTX 3060 Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$634.98
3)

GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$774.98
4)

GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$774.98

5)

GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N306TAORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$804.98

6)

GIGABYTE GV-N306TGAMINGOC PRO-8GD (rev. 2.0) Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N306TGAMINGOC PRO-8GD (rev. 2.0) Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$784.98

7)

GIGABYTE GV-N306TGAMINGOC PRO-8GD (rev. 2.0) Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N306TGAMINGOC PRO-8GD (rev. 2.0) Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$814.98

8 )

EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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EVGA 750 GQ 210-GQ-0750-V1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
1× EVGA 750 GQ 210-GQ-0750-V1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$819.97

9)

EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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EVGA Supernova 750 GA 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Fully Modular Power Supply
1× EVGA Supernova 750 GA 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Fully Modular Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$821.88

10 )

EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× EVGA 08G-P5-3767-KR FTW3 GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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EVGA SuperNOVA 750 GT 220-GT-0750-Y1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
1× EVGA SuperNOVA 750 GT 220-GT-0750-Y1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$834.98

11)

GIGABYTE GV-N3070VISION OC-8GD Vision GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3070VISION OC-8GD Vision GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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GIGABYTE GP-P750GM 750W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
1× GIGABYTE GP-P750GM 750W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$879.98

12)

GIGABYTE GV-N3070VISION OC-8GD Vision GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3070VISION OC-8GD Vision GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$959.98

13)

GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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GIGABYTE GP-P750GM 750W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
1× GIGABYTE GP-P750GM 750W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$899.98

14)

GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1004.98

15)

GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3070AORUS M-8GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1064.98

16)

ASUS ROG-STRIX-RX6700XT-O12G-GAMING ROG Strix Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card
1× ASUS ROG-STRIX-RX6700XT-O12G-GAMING ROG Strix Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card
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ASUS TUF GAMING B450M-PLUS II Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
1× ASUS TUF GAMING B450M-PLUS II Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1044.98

17)

ASUS ROG-STRIX-RX6700XT-O12G-GAMING ROG Strix Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card
1× ASUS ROG-STRIX-RX6700XT-O12G-GAMING ROG Strix Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card
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ASUS STRIX B450-F GAMING II ATX AMD Motherboard
1× ASUS STRIX B450-F GAMING II ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1084.98

18)

ASUS TUF-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
1× ASUS TUF-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
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ASUS STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AMD Motherboard
1× ASUS STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1239.98

19)

ASUS TUF-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
1× ASUS TUF-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
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ASUS TUF GAMING VG27WQ 27" QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 1 ms (MPRT) 165 Hz (Max) HDMI, DisplayPort FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved Gaming Monitor
1× ASUS TUF GAMING VG27WQ 27" QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 1 ms (MPRT) 165 Hz (Max) HDMI, DisplayPort FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved Gaming Monitor
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COMBO PRICE:$1409.98

20)

GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
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GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1304.98

21)

GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
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GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1304.98

22)

GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD Vision GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$1364.98

23)

ASUS TUF-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
1× ASUS TUF-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
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ASUS PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
1× ASUS PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$2309.98

24)

ASUS TUF-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
1× ASUS TUF-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
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ASUS STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AMD Motherboard
1× ASUS STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$2399.98

25)

GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
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GIGABYTE GP-P850GM 850W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
1× GIGABYTE GP-P850GM 850W ATX 12V v2.31 Power Supply
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COMBO PRICE:$2379.98

26)

GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
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GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) ATX AMD Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) ATX AMD Motherboard
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COMBO PRICE:$2604.98

27)

GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
1× GIGABYTE GV-N3090AORUS X-24GD AORUS GeForce RTX 3090 Video Card
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GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS MASTER WATERFORCE ATX Intel Motherboard
1× GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS MASTER WATERFORCE ATX Intel Motherboard
View Detail
COMBO PRICE:$2854.98

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27 cards

largest shuffle ever.

[DigitalFarns]

I picked my one! 

It's been hard to do that these past couple of entries.  Been picking like all of them previously. 

[philipma1957]

I picked my one!  

It's been hard to do that these past couple of entries.  Been picking like all of them previously.  

I am picking every one but 1+2


At all if you get a win today please let us know. As it looks like someone should with this many choices.

I have gone from April 2 to May 2nd all losers

I am due.

[fr4nkthetank]

ETH estimated hashrate

May 2020 : 180
Sept to Jan = +35% (4 months)
Jan : 300
Feb : 360 (20%)
Mar : 420 (17%)
Apr : 480 (14%)
May : 570 (19%)

Year over year : 215% increase in hashrate

I estimate June 1st will be : 700

Nvidia and AMD are producing GPUs at record numbers even though they arent available.  Many, many more than Pascal generation.  Eth price is going higher and higher.
6 million equivalent 3080s mining = 6 Billion msrp roughly mining (take with a big grain of salt)
In last month alone, 1 million equivalent 3080s were added, so = 1 billion $ extra capital deployed (again, grain of salt)

And going higher.

[philipma1957]

ETH estimated hashrate

May 2020 : 180
Sept to Jan = +35% (4 months)
Jan : 300
Feb : 360 (20%)
Mar : 420 (17%)
Apr : 480 (14%)
May : 570 (19%)

Year over year : 215% increase in hashrate

I estimate June 1st will be : 700

Nvidia and AMD are producing GPUs at record numbers even though they arent available.  Many, many more than Pascal generation.  Eth price is going higher and higher.
6 million equivalent 3080s mining = 6 Billion msrp roughly mining (take with a big grain of salt)
In last month alone, 1 million equivalent 3080s were added, so = 1 billion $ extra capital deployed (again, grain of salt)

And going higher.

question to ask is how many eth miners are asic vs how many are gpu.

we went from 2.9 million to 5.7 million 3080's if it was all 3080's

but bitmain has admitted to the e9

linzhi asic does 2700 mh at 3300 watts
bitmain e9 does 3300 mh at 2800 watts.


  1,000 e9 =    33,000  3080's
10,000 e9 =  330,000  3080's
30,000 e9 =  990,000  3080's

I have to think that  they have that many in the field right now.




Shuffle was a no go.

[Elder III]

I have to suspect a fair amount of it is asics. Unless the rumors of thousands of GPUs at a time going straight from factory to mining farms in China is true.  There simply have not been enough GPUs distributed in the "western" world to equal that hashrate.

As for the Shuffle, I went from 4 of 7 - 6 of 17 - 6 of 36.  The odds of winning seem extremely worse now, even with 20+ combos dropping each day lately.

[philipma1957]

I have to suspect a fair amount of it is asics. Unless the rumors of thousands of GPUs at a time going straight from factory to mining farms in China is true.  There simply have not been enough GPUs distributed in the "western" world to equal that hashrate.

As for the Shuffle, I went from 4 of 7 - 6 of 17 - 6 of 36.  The odds of winning seem extremely worse now, even with 20+ combos dropping each day lately.

I think it is exactly this.

[kcheel]

Been trying for several weeks to get a L3+ or two at a decent price and they keep going up.  Finally got 2 today for $1200 total with no PSU.  Got a couple of extra HP 1200's laying around, so that works out. Hope they are legit, as they supposedly have a bunch more.  Paid with Paypal, so not too worried. 

And of course it looks like it is some sort of scam.  Got shipping notice on the 2 miners today and according to UPS, it weighs 5lbs.  Since best I can tell from Google, they weigh over 10lbs each, so I would say something is off.  Crazy thing is that its through Mercari and they don't release funds to the seller until its received by the buyer and they are satisfied.  So  I am really confused by what they are trying to pull.

Also, no go on the Shuffle today and I picked every 3060/3070/3080.

I did sell my 3080 for small mint on Ebay today, so not a completely bad day.

[DigitalFarns]

I am 0 for 30-something now.

[philipma1957]

Been trying for several weeks to get a L3+ or two at a decent price and they keep going up.  Finally got 2 today for $1200 total with no PSU.  Got a couple of extra HP 1200's laying around, so that works out. Hope they are legit, as they supposedly have a bunch more.  Paid with Paypal, so not too worried.  

And of course it looks like it is some sort of scam.  Got shipping notice on the 2 miners today and according to UPS, it weighs 5lbs.  Since best I can tell from Google, they weigh over 10lbs each, so I would say something is off.  Crazy thing is that its through Mercari and they don't release funds to the seller until its received by the buyer and they are satisfied.  So  I am really confused by what they are trying to pull.

Also, no go on the Shuffle today and I picked every 3060/3070/3080.

I did sell my 3080 for small mint on Ebay today, so not a completely bad day.

Some shippers get special rates it may not be a spam.

1200 was a good price.  2 units are making about  25 or 26 a day  and burn about 40 kwatts say 8 bucks at 20 cent power so you net close to 20 a day. between doge and ltc. if they work.

April 1 to May 3 is 32 days but Sundays off and I missed 2 so I think I am on a 25 game losing streak.

My gut is bot players simply have 200 accounts to my 1.

As 25 x 8 = 200 picks say 10 cards each is 2000 cards. more likely they sold 20,000 cards last month giving me 20,000 chances to buy 1.

I would love open stats

 how many are signed for shuffle each day
how many are accounts that are under 60 days old. = huge which is why we lose.