Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[adaseb]

I think the best time to GPU mine ETH was actually in 2016. We had a nice small bubble then of great profits but the remainder of the year we made like a steady $1.5 per 280X per day. Sure now we make like $2.5 per 480 per day however back then there was less volatility and wasn't as hectic as it is now.

At ~$1.50 per day of profits, nobody wanted to mine ETH. Craiglist was full of cheap GPUs, Newegg had tons of GPUs with rebates, miners weren't buying them. Now its the complete opposite, profits are $2.00-$2.50 for a mid-tiered GPU per day, everybody wants to mine ETH. Craiglist has no supply of GPUs, the ones listed are crazy over priced, Newegg has everything sold out. Miners are buying like crazy.

Reminds me of the Antminer S5 days of 2015. Sure the profits weren't that great, however the difficulty was almost flat for most of the year. Great time to accumulate Bitcoin back then.

Now mining has just gotten way too competitive.

[philipma1957]

I think the best time to GPU mine ETH was actually in 2016. We had a nice small bubble then of great profits but the remainder of the year we made like a steady $1.5 per 280X per day. Sure now we make like $2.5 per 480 per day however back then there was less volatility and wasn't as hectic as it is now.

At ~$1.50 per day of profits, nobody wanted to mine ETH. Craiglist was full of cheap GPUs, Newegg had tons of GPUs with rebates, miners weren't buying them. Now its the complete opposite, profits are $2.00-$2.50 for a mid-tiered GPU per day, everybody wants to mine ETH. Craiglist has no supply of GPUs, the ones listed are crazy over priced, Newegg has everything sold out. Miners are buying like crazy.

Reminds me of the Antminer S5 days of 2015. Sure the profits weren't that great, however the difficulty was almost flat for most of the year. Great time to accumulate Bitcoin back then.

Now mining has just gotten way too competitive.

Yeah the only hope I have is no one gets very much gear and price is driven upwards long enough to match diff.

It may be we get the 6-9 months os good profits.

Adding gear may be next to impossible for most anyone.

I would think this could be a good thing and keep profits up 🆙.

I now have more space and power.
I have 400 amps at 240 volts and a new space.

I can do 70kwatts easy. I got some onda d1800 boards coming on the 28th.

I could do 3x 3060ti on a board and do 100 boards no problem.

Biggest issue is getting cards. Maybe it is a good thing.

Just add a few cards a month when they show up.

[deadsix]

I think the best time to GPU mine ETH was actually in 2016. We had a nice small bubble then of great profits but the remainder of the year we made like a steady $1.5 per 280X per day. Sure now we make like $2.5 per 480 per day however back then there was less volatility and wasn't as hectic as it is now.

At ~$1.50 per day of profits, nobody wanted to mine ETH. Craiglist was full of cheap GPUs, Newegg had tons of GPUs with rebates, miners weren't buying them. Now its the complete opposite, profits are $2.00-$2.50 for a mid-tiered GPU per day, everybody wants to mine ETH. Craiglist has no supply of GPUs, the ones listed are crazy over priced, Newegg has everything sold out. Miners are buying like crazy.

Reminds me of the Antminer S5 days of 2015. Sure the profits weren't that great, however the difficulty was almost flat for most of the year. Great time to accumulate Bitcoin back then.

Now mining has just gotten way too competitive.

I wish all the cards I purchased were 8GB polaris, not 4GB but then I was so sure we would hit POS on ETH by 2020 end.

[soothaa]

Might be getting close to a short term top.  MSI may be making some mining cards soon.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-registers-rtx-3060-ti-miner-cards

With the way that MSI has priced their cards this year can't see them being that cheap compared to non mining 3060 ti's so they would need to be fast or less power hungry.

they just need to be available.

Available now for delivery next week!

Where? I can't find them..

[philipma1957]

Might be getting close to a short term top.  MSI may be making some mining cards soon.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-registers-rtx-3060-ti-miner-cards

With the way that MSI has priced their cards this year can't see them being that cheap compared to non mining 3060 ti's so they would need to be fast or less power hungry.

they just need to be available.

Available now for delivery next week!

Where? I can't find them..

Yeah same here they don't list anyplace at all.

At this point they most likely shipped a ton to some farm and fucked the rest of us.

[badbart]

I go to Microcenter everyday at lunch and I was able to buy a couple cards a week.  Now I go and the shelves are bear or they have over priced 6800 XTs, 1660s or 3090s for two grand.  Is the GPU supply low or is their a lot of demand similar to 2017?

I still have 30 1000 series cards I need to replace .

[philipma1957]

I go to Microcenter everyday at lunch and I was able to buy a couple cards a week.  Now I go and the shelves are bear or they have over priced 6800 XTs, 1660s or 3090s for two grand.  Is the GPU supply low or is their a lot of demand similar to 2017?

I still have 30 1000 series cards I need to replace .

I am thinking this is going to be harder to get cards then 2017 was.

[adaseb]

I wish all the cards I purchased were 8GB polaris, not 4GB but then I was so sure we would hit POS on ETH by 2020 end.

Yes I was in the same boat as you. The difference in price was only $40 between the 4GB <-> 8GB however back in 2016, I was telling myself "Only idiots are overpaying for 8GB models, ETH will never be POW past 4GB" and yet 4.5 years later, here we are.

On the used card markets like Facebook marketplace and Craiglist, it seems the 8GB models are going for MSRP price of 2016. While the 4GB models are around 33-50% of that. Pretty good investment if you bought in 2016, mined for 4.5 years and sold for MSRP during the Covid pandemic to gamers. I am pretty sure 8GB will be enough until ETH goes full POS, I think maybe the 6GB models of some cards maybe will run out of space in 2 years or so.

[nsummy]

There would be a major card shortage even if mining wasn't profitable currently.  The mining profits though make a bad situation worse.  You can't even find the latest Ryzens anywhere.  Increasingly Nvidia and AMD do these paper launches.  One comes out with a new card claiming better performance, the other has to one-up or match them.  The problem is that neither companies have the capacity to meet even the smallest demand.  Nvidia also made their 2000 series obsolete with the new gen. 

[JayDDee]

Nvidia also made their 2000 series obsolete with the new gen.  

That was their big mistake. With limited supply of 3000 and a discontinued 2000 they have nothing to sell.
If they had been smart they would have kept the 2000 with a reduced price and charged a premium for 3000.
Now the scalpers are making all the profits.

[generalt]

Yeah the only hope I have is no one gets very much gear and price is driven upwards long enough to match diff.

It may be we get the 6-9 months os good profits.

Adding gear may be next to impossible for most anyone.

I would think this could be a good thing and keep profits up 🆙.

I now have more space and power.
I have 400 amps at 240 volts and a new space.

I can do 70kwatts easy. I got some onda d1800 boards coming on the 28th.

I could do 3x 3060ti on a board and do 100 boards no problem.

Biggest issue is getting cards. Maybe it is a good thing.

Just add a few cards a month when they show up.

Question about the Onda board Phil.  If you're only going to use 3 slots, do you still have to connect all the power inputs?  It looks like the three SATA is power in and the molex is power out? 

[btcshiner]

Might be getting close to a short term top.  MSI may be making some mining cards soon.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-registers-rtx-3060-ti-miner-cards

With the way that MSI has priced their cards this year can't see them being that cheap compared to non mining 3060 ti's so they would need to be fast or less power hungry.

they just need to be available.

Available now for delivery next week!

Where? I can't find them..

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527976-REG/msi_r5500xtm8c_radeon_rx_5500_xt.html

In stock as I type this but limit of 1

[philipma1957]

Yeah the only hope I have is no one gets very much gear and price is driven upwards long enough to match diff.

It may be we get the 6-9 months os good profits.

Adding gear may be next to impossible for most anyone.

I would think this could be a good thing and keep profits up 🆙.

I now have more space and power.
I have 400 amps at 240 volts and a new space.

I can do 70kwatts easy. I got some onda d1800 boards coming on the 28th.

I could do 3x 3060ti on a board and do 100 boards no problem.

Biggest issue is getting cards. Maybe it is a good thing.

Just add a few cards a month when they show up.

Question about the Onda board Phil.  If you're only going to use 3 slots, do you still have to connect all the power inputs?  It looks like the three SATA is power in and the molex is power out?  

no they all are power in.

I do the seasonic focus 850watt psu and connect to all 3 satas 2 cables I double it up but don't connect 2 consecutive slots with gpu's so no cable melt   and all 3x 4 pin Molex

this is the psu


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w-80-gold-psu-full-modular-fan-control-in-fanless-silent-cooling-mode-10-yr-warranty-black/6414265.p?skuId=6414265

it has 3 molex and 2 sata cables.

since I know I alternate the gpu's on that board overload of the cables does not happen.

makes for a compact build of

3x 3080's. .......................................700watts at wall you must set to 205 watts on smos if you do 3 of these. ideally if you want 3x 3080's a 1000 or 1200 watt psu set to 220 watts is better.

 or 3x 3080tis ...................................500watts at wall
or 3x 5700xt with a short 5600xt .........550 watts at  wall


oh I grabbed that 5500 xt from b&H thanks.

[btcshiner]

Nice!  Glad you were able to grab one.

[generalt]

no they all are power in.

I do the seasonic focus 850watt psu and connect to all 3 satas 2 cables I double it up but don't connect 2 consecutive slots with gpu's so no cable melt   and all 3x 4 pin Molex

this is the psu


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w-80-gold-psu-full-modular-fan-control-in-fanless-silent-cooling-mode-10-yr-warranty-black/6414265.p?skuId=6414265

it has 3 molex and 2 sata cables.

since I know I alternate the gpu's on that board overload of the cables does not happen.

makes for a compact build of

3x 3080's. .......................................700watts at wall you must set to 205 watts on smos if you do 3 of these. ideally if you want 3x 3080's a 1000 or 1200 watt psu set to 220 watts is better.

 or 3x 3080tis ...................................500watts at wall
or 3x 5700xt with a short 5600xt .........550 watts at  wall


oh I grabbed that 5500 xt from b&H thanks.

Thanks for the info Phil.  I might want to try one of these builds.  I'm slowly trying to get a nice 3000 series rig going but we all know how hard it is to get those cards.  I got lucky and have a 3060ti that's supposed to arrive tomorrow and another one on Friday.  It would be nice to not have to deal with risers.  Keep me in mind if you do decide to sell off some of your stock of those boards.

Curious why the 4th card has to be short though

[philipma1957]

no they all are power in.

I do the seasonic focus 850watt psu and connect to all 3 satas 2 cables I double it up but don't connect 2 consecutive slots with gpu's so no cable melt   and all 3x 4 pin Molex

this is the psu


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w-80-gold-psu-full-modular-fan-control-in-fanless-silent-cooling-mode-10-yr-warranty-black/6414265.p?skuId=6414265

it has 3 molex and 2 sata cables.

since I know I alternate the gpu's on that board overload of the cables does not happen.

makes for a compact build of

3x 3080's. .......................................700watts at wall you must set to 205 watts on smos if you do 3 of these. ideally if you want 3x 3080's a 1000 or 1200 watt psu set to 220 watts is better.

 or 3x 3080tis ...................................500watts at wall
or 3x 5700xt with a short 5600xt .........550 watts at  wall


oh I grabbed that 5500 xt from b&H thanks.

Thanks for the info Phil.  I might want to try one of these builds.  I'm slowly trying to get a nice 3000 series rig going but we all know how hard it is to get those cards.  I got lucky and have a 3060ti that's supposed to arrive tomorrow and another one on Friday.  It would be nice to not have to deal with risers.  Keep me in mind if you do decide to sell off some of your stock of those boards.

Curious why the 4th card has to be short though

well on a 3x5700 1x5600 build


that build allows all cards to breath



on a 3 card 3060ti

slot 1 3060ti
slot 2 blank
slot 3 3060ti
slot 4 blank
slot 5 3060ti
slot 6 blank


the 3060ti is nice in that you effectively have spare pcie slots

3 card onda d1800 builds are very stable and  compact

[philipma1957]

I found a ryzen 5600 cpu on newegg yesterday direct from newegg 299


and it is now from a reseller on newegg at 499

Gear prices are fucking nuts.

So for new  cpus or gpus close to MSRP

I checked ebay zip
I checked newegg zip
I checked bhphoto zip
I checked amazon zip
I check Best Buy zip

Best Buy has a good 850 watt psu. for 140

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w-80-gold-psu-full-modular-fan-control-in-fanless-silent-cooling-mode-10-yr-warranty-black/6414265.p?skuId=6414265

Amazon has this 1050 watt psu

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-power-and-cooling-silencer-1050w-psu,5871.html

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077YXBMTC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1


it has a decent review



I grabbed a beast today.


https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526?Item=N82E16814487526&quicklink=true

this will go in my threadripper rig and will be the most second expensive rig I ever built. about 5078

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ9tg45C0DE

I paid 1899 for  3970 threadripper  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0815JJQQ8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 450 for tr40 asus https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08166G8DS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 120  aorus nvme m2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VV87QVL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?


I paid 372 really good price 8 sticks of 16gb ramhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QBZ2H5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 87  msi 1030 gpu https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072BL9CRM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 90 for be quiet air cooler https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J589GHF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?


I paid 2060 1 evga  model 3987  3090 gpu https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526?

This monster build is 5k.



I did have a 1 card 1060 + 7 card 1080ti hybrid build back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZ0U1x_uZo. this was a 6200 dollar build

[generalt]

Wow Phil that's one monster system!  Puts mine to shame!  Best of luck with that baby.

[philipma1957]

Wow Phil that's one monster system!  Puts mine to shame!  Best of luck with that baby.

You have a good setup.


This threadripper is beastly really powerful.

Once I hook 🪝 up the 3090 it will be a lot of fun to play with it.

[btcshiner]

I found a ryzen 5600 cpu on newegg yesterday direct from newegg 299


and it is now from a reseller on newegg at 499

Gear prices are fucking nuts.

So for new  cpus or gpus close to MSRP

I checked ebay zip
I checked newegg zip
I checked bhphoto zip
I checked amazon zip
I check Best Buy zip

Best Buy has a good 850 watt psu. for 140

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w-80-gold-psu-full-modular-fan-control-in-fanless-silent-cooling-mode-10-yr-warranty-black/6414265.p?skuId=6414265

Amazon has this 1050 watt psu

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-power-and-cooling-silencer-1050w-psu,5871.html

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077YXBMTC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1


it has a decent review



I grabbed a beast today.


https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526?Item=N82E16814487526&quicklink=true

this will go in my threadripper rig and will be the most second expensive rig I ever built. about 5078

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ9tg45C0DE

I paid 1899 for  3970 threadripper  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0815JJQQ8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 450 for tr40 asus https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08166G8DS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 120  aorus nvme m2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VV87QVL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?


I paid 372 really good price 8 sticks of 16gb ramhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QBZ2H5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 87  msi 1030 gpu https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072BL9CRM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?

I paid 90 for be quiet air cooler https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J589GHF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?


I paid 2060 1 evga  model 3987  3090 gpu https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526?

This monster build is 5k.



I did have a 1 card 1060 + 7 card 1080ti hybrid build back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZ0U1x_uZo. this was a 6200 dollar build

Curious as to what the 1030 is doing for you in this rig?  Seems like a good rig for doing some speculative mine and hold in-between mining eth.  You gonna do any mining of the Octopus algo and hold a few coins in case they are more than a fad?  Or any other coins?

Gear prices are defiantly nuts right now. 

Newegg is doing a daily "Shuffle" for some hot items.  It's essentially a raffle like Japan does for new console launches. The AMD 5600x and 5800x CPU's seem to be an option pretty regularly.

They also throw in some GPU's mostly the higher priced AIB models.   

Goes live usually around 2pm to 5pm est.  Get like 3-4 hours to purchase if "your selected.

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

Site shows as expired till they load the new stuff for the daily shuffle.