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June 15, 2019, 07:29:49 PM
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After 3 weeks we will know the real hashrates of Navi, I am expecting ~50MH/~130-140W.
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On ETH / ETC, hashrate won't match the Vega 64, because Vega still has a better bandwith and the algo is memory intensive.
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Anyway, new GPU's are allways good. Will be hoping for a better prices for previous generations.
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June 16, 2019, 04:38:24 AM
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On ETH / ETC, hashrate won't match the Vega 64, because Vega still has a better bandwith and the algo is memory intensive.

Navi 20 coming out next year will beat Vega 64 easily. Not sure what the naming will be, but maybe it will be called 5900 XT or thereabout. Should be a winner at mining.

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June 16, 2019, 09:14:12 AM
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Well, the big boys are coming out when Navi 20 comes to market. That would be somewhere next year from what I've heard. Looking for some 80 compute units, hope they won't be too powerhungry and make too much noise.
And NVIDIA updates Turing series. The last i`ve heard - that they would start sales in July 2019, so we have to wait about a month. But they are making just little customize, as a understand - some more cores, new memory, but nothing new.
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Generally worth buying AMD? if i'm going to mine ETH ? It seems to say that the  NV 1600 is a good option. Can anyone have a link to see the comparison in Youtube ?

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June 16, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
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On ETH / ETC, hashrate won't match the Vega 64, because Vega still has a better bandwith and the algo is memory intensive.

Navi 20 coming out next year will beat Vega 64 easily. Not sure what the naming will be, but maybe it will be called 5900 XT or thereabout. Should be a winner at mining.
That already stated if the top series of NAVI has a similar spec with radeon VII but it less efficient as per my understanding from a lot of rumors that already spread among the news site.
The top type of navy GPU can beat vega 64 easily but it looks not for another type that placed below the top type of NAVI series.

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June 16, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
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On ETH / ETC, hashrate won't match the Vega 64, because Vega still has a better bandwith and the algo is memory intensive.

Navi 20 coming out next year will beat Vega 64 easily. Not sure what the naming will be, but maybe it will be called 5900 XT or thereabout. Should be a winner at mining.

ETH might POS in january 2020.

To beat Vega 64 on Etash, you only need more bandwith, so 16 GBPS GDDR6.



Generally worth buying AMD? if i'm going to mine ETH ? It seems to say that the  NV 1600 is a good option. Can anyone have a link to see the comparison in Youtube ?

A 70$ used RX570 will give you the same HR on ETH (same as GTX1660 / 1660Ti).
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June 17, 2019, 01:57:02 AM
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After 3 weeks we will know the real hashrates of Navi, I am expecting ~50MH/~130-140W.

50Mh where did you pull that number from your ass

we already know gddr6 + 256 and RTX2070 use same memory and with max OC (where NV have better memory controller) max is ~41mh so do your math

also 5700XT is 225w TDP, those card will be HUGE FLOP already!

NV now own them 100% in mining as lead with faster memory and price is gone  Grin

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The only thing that could potentially make them NAVIs more interesting is if AMD allow the GDDR6 timings to be tweaked... Polaris/Vega style. So far, Turing doesn't allow timings to be modded so it could play to AMD's advantage again... Fingers crossed.



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June 17, 2019, 09:10:48 PM
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After 3 weeks we will know the real hashrates of Navi, I am expecting ~50MH/~130-140W.

50Mh where did you pull that number from your ass

we already know gddr6 + 256 and RTX2070 use same memory and with max OC (where NV have better memory controller) max is ~41mh so do your math

also 5700XT is 225w TDP, those card will be HUGE FLOP already!

NV now own them 100% in mining as lead with faster memory and price is gone  Grin

Okay, we will see.
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After 3 weeks we will know the real hashrates of Navi, I am expecting ~50MH/~130-140W.

50Mh where did you pull that number from your ass

we already know gddr6 + 256 and RTX2070 use same memory and with max OC (where NV have better memory controller) max is ~41mh so do your math

also 5700XT is 225w TDP, those card will be HUGE FLOP already!

NV now own them 100% in mining as lead with faster memory and price is gone  Grin

1st leaked gaming benchmark, RX5700 is faster than RTX2060. https://spectatorx.wordpress.com/2019/06/15/radeon-navi-rx5700-first-real-benchmark-on-level-of-geforce-rtx2060-in-far-cry-5/

I don't think it will fall behind in terms of compute power and bandwith.

We'll see in 3 weeks for 5700 and 5700XT full testing.
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On ETH / ETC, hashrate won't match the Vega 64, because Vega still has a better bandwith and the algo is memory intensive.

Navi 20 coming out next year will beat Vega 64 easily. Not sure what the naming will be, but maybe it will be called 5900 XT or thereabout. Should be a winner at mining.

ETH might POS in january 2020.

To beat Vega 64 on Etash, you only need more bandwith, so 16 GBPS GDDR6.
is this already confirmed and i thought that ETA for POS still become a rumour. Because ethereum still not yet implement another hardfork to support casper POS.

I thought that he was mentioning the wrong name because 5900XT was a nvidia FX series.

In two months later we will see the real comparison.

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January 3rd 2020 will be POS phase 0 for ETH. So the network will still work with POS.
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January 3rd 2020 will be POS phase 0 for ETH. So the network will still work with POS.
Where did you get that info from? I was under the impression they were considering a PoW+PoS solution at first, possibly implementing ProgPow... Have you got any sources to the claim?



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June 18, 2019, 01:00:46 PM
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January 3rd 2020 will be POS phase 0 for ETH. So the network will still work with POS.
Where did you get that info from? I was under the impression they were considering a PoW+PoS solution at first, possibly implementing ProgPow... Have you got any sources to the claim?

Phase 0 means you can stake for future POS rewards. Doesn't mean at all ETH will move to POS at this date. I may have been confusing you, my apologies.



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The only thing that could potentially make them NAVIs more interesting is if AMD allow the GDDR6 timings to be tweaked... Polaris/Vega style. So far, Turing doesn't allow timings to be modded so it could play to AMD's advantage again... Fingers crossed.

AMD already said they will block any bios mod, so any tweak you do over direct access to vbios will be doable on NV too.... so 57xx= rtx2070 1:1 + NV have 2-5% better memory controler

only if they would offer 256bit memory card for 200$, but that will not happen

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OP updated
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-specs-release-date-price-and-everything-we-know/

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After 3 weeks we will know the real hashrates of Navi, I am expecting ~50MH/~130-140W.

50Mh where did you pull that number from your ass

we already know gddr6 + 256 and RTX2070 use same memory and with max OC (where NV have better memory controller) max is ~41mh so do your math

also 5700XT is 225w TDP, those card will be HUGE FLOP already!

NV now own them 100% in mining as lead with faster memory and price is gone  Grin


Guess you should check where you pull your info from Wink

50MH should be easily achievable on this architecture (people forget they completely revamped the GCN cores). Wave 32 instructions are executed in a single clock cycle now, so even with no miner side optimizations (ie running old Wave64 code) the RDNA architecture can run split a single Wave 64 and run it in parallel essentially executing it twice as fast.

TDP is also TDP, with the changes above you can probably down clock these to half their advertised speed for ethash, youll be looking at under 100 watts for 50+ MH.

Also didn't mention the doubling of L0 to ALU bandwidth, and addition of L1 cache to the architecture, which clever developers can take advantage off.

Should definitely be interesting to play with Cheesy

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Bios block is no longer a problem, check claymore latest miner.

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