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July 14, 2019, 06:50:17 AM
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PCI-E 4 isn't compatible with current GPU risers.  Some people have been able to mess with BIOS and get them working by changing them to pcie 3.0 speeds, but not all mobos work like this.  So plug the GPUs directly into the mobo 16x Slot to utilize it and even then you wont see any mining improvements.
PCI-E are backward compatible so you can run cards even on 1.1. Which lot of miners did on older mobos to get 6 and more cards running back then. Every mining mobo and most of the newer mobos have option to set PCI-E version.

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July 14, 2019, 09:46:35 AM
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PCI-E 4 isn't compatible with current GPU risers.  Some people have been able to mess with BIOS and get them working by changing them to pcie 3.0 speeds, but not all mobos work like this.  So plug the GPUs directly into the mobo 16x Slot to utilize it and even then you wont see any mining improvements.
PCI-E are backward compatible so you can run cards even on 1.1. Which lot of miners did on older mobos to get 6 and more cards running back then. Every mining mobo and most of the newer mobos have option to set PCI-E version.

That is true for pcie 3.0 and below but im talking about the newest 4.0 as it has a different power requirement and there are reports of it not working at lower speeds with some bios. it's something that needs to be fleshed out over time.
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July 14, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
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That is true for pcie 3.0 and below but im talking about the newest 4.0 as it has a different power requirement and there are reports of it not working at lower speeds with some bios. it's something that needs to be fleshed out over time.
I didn't know that 4.0 is not backward compatible... that's bad.

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July 14, 2019, 08:25:50 PM
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Subbing - really sad to see this new arch having trouble getting off the ground..

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July 15, 2019, 09:17:58 AM
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I hope when the non-reference models are out we will have working miners.
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July 15, 2019, 04:28:56 PM
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Subbing - really sad to see this new arch having trouble getting off the ground..

Its AMD's openCL compiler...its totally bugged for the new arch. Im sure the ASM guys already have working kernels that are probably super fast but obviously wont put anything public for a while.

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July 15, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
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It seems 5700XT OpenCL score falls between 2080 and 2080TI:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Powerful-system-sporting-AMD-s-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-racks-up-colossal-OpenCL-score-on-Geekbench.426956.0.html

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July 15, 2019, 11:48:57 PM
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nanominer v1.5.1
@Grumpy-Dwarf Grumpy-Dwarf released this 18 hours ago

Added Ethash binaries for AMD Radeon RX 5700 and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT cards. Performance is awful but maybe it will boost with next driver update.

https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases

tests?

Gigabyte RX5700
Cryptonight-GPU (Ryo)
1290 h/s stock
1400 h/s OC 1786mhz core
150W (GPUz)
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July 16, 2019, 01:21:58 AM
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nanominer v1.5.1
@Grumpy-Dwarf Grumpy-Dwarf released this 18 hours ago

Added Ethash binaries for AMD Radeon RX 5700 and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT cards. Performance is awful but maybe it will boost with next driver update.

https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases

tests?

Gigabyte RX5700
Cryptonight-GPU (Ryo)
1290 h/s stock
1400 h/s OC 1786mhz core
150W (GPUz)

which miner?
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nanominer v1.5.1
@Grumpy-Dwarf Grumpy-Dwarf released this 18 hours ago

Added Ethash binaries for AMD Radeon RX 5700 and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT cards. Performance is awful but maybe it will boost with next driver update.

https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases

tests?

Gigabyte RX5700
Cryptonight-GPU (Ryo)
1290 h/s stock
1400 h/s OC 1786mhz core
150W (GPUz)

which miner?

I was thinking its for nanominer.. .but i'm getting "could not find binary for gfx1010 device" for cnr, so maybe not for nanominer.
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July 16, 2019, 05:27:00 AM
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Hi guys,

well, i'm also waiting for a miner...

meanwhile, I have a Brute Force software, that uses both Memory and Core intensively, and just for you to have an idea of the XR5700XT performance relative to other cards:

- RX470 - 35.5 to 41.6 MKeys/s
- GTX1050ti - ~27 MKeys/s
- GTX1060 - ~48 MKeys/s
- GTX1070ti - ~78 MKeys/s

- RX5700XT - 158 to 161 MKeys/s (YES, THAT'S A LOT for a 400$ Card!)

I Don't know if it's the new Architecture, but i was SHOCKED when I compiled the code and got it Runnig...

so, and i know this things are not linear, we have a factor of x3.87 compared to the RX470...

extrapolating to ETH:

RX470 - 30 to 32MH/s (mine does 33.2 MH/s Tongue)
RX5700XT - 116.1 to 123.84 MH/s

take this calculations with 'a full gram' of salt!

Before everyone starts buying out your local Bestbuy: Brute force is EXACTLY what is sounds like. I'm no fancy bit city AMD low level engineer, but as mining goes we are also looking at quite a few other factors that extrapolate fairly badly with a straight brute force test. That said, awesome work, and I'm sure the new AMD cards are gonna be pretty killer. I seriously doubt that a 5700 XT will push EThash higher than a Radeon VII for many reasons, but I look forward to be proven wrong.

My semi-educated guess is that the 5700 XT will land around 1080ti performance based on memory bandwidth, and chipset (as a wild median). Outperform 1080/1080ti (2070) in general, but otherwise not break the laws of progressive performance except perhaps in some cases.

Remember (and I'm trying real hard not to bash AMD here), AMD do make great 'on paper' hardware. But driver and utilization wise, they have literally never over-performed.
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July 16, 2019, 11:18:51 AM
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nanominer v1.5.1
@Grumpy-Dwarf Grumpy-Dwarf released this 18 hours ago

Added Ethash binaries for AMD Radeon RX 5700 and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT cards. Performance is awful but maybe it will boost with next driver update.

https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases

tests?

I got "No GPU devices were detected" error with Nanominer. Claymore's Dual Miner and PhoenixMiner can detect the card, so I don't know what's the problem with Nanominer. Btw I think that "awful" means ~3-4MH/s for Ethash mining with RX 5700, so the same what I can get using the other softwares.

I hope that the above mentioned developers will update their miner soon - but it won't be easy because this is a totally new architecture.
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July 16, 2019, 08:09:15 PM
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nanominer v1.5.1
@Grumpy-Dwarf Grumpy-Dwarf released this 18 hours ago

Added Ethash binaries for AMD Radeon RX 5700 and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT cards. Performance is awful but maybe it will boost with next driver update.

https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases

tests?

Gigabyte RX5700
Cryptonight-GPU (Ryo)
1290 h/s stock
1400 h/s OC 1786mhz core
150W (GPUz)

which miner?
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July 16, 2019, 09:25:10 PM
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soooo many lies here... do AMD ppz can`t stand the truth

RX5700 is very bad card with ~200w power usage on par with rtx2060 super deal with it!

and monero 1400h/s speed is for 6x5700 cards NOT ONE CARD!!!! FFS

stop the FUD

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July 16, 2019, 10:37:50 PM
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soooo many lies here... do AMD ppz can`t stand the truth

RX5700 is very bad card with ~200w power usage on par with rtx2060 super deal with it!

and monero 1400h/s speed is for 6x5700 cards NOT ONE CARD!!!! FFS

stop the FUD

5700XR is very good card almost on par with  2080 , but for half the price


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July 17, 2019, 07:26:04 AM
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soooo many lies here... do AMD ppz can`t stand the truth

RX5700 is very bad card with ~200w power usage on par with rtx2060 super deal with it!

and monero 1400h/s speed is for 6x5700 cards NOT ONE CARD!!!! FFS

stop the FUD

5700XR is very good card almost on par with  2080 , but for half the price




Depends on how much power it’s using to get this FPS
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July 17, 2019, 07:43:51 AM
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Depends on how much power it’s using to get this FPS

About 250W which is not too much above default consumption:

https://www.tomshw.de/2019/07/11/ungefesselt-radeon-rx-5700-xt-auf-ueber-22-ghz-uebertaktet-break-the-limits-mit-den-neuen-softpowerplaytables-fuer-die-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt/2/

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July 17, 2019, 08:22:39 AM
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soooo many lies here... do AMD ppz can`t stand the truth

RX5700 is very bad card with ~200w power usage on par with rtx2060 super deal with it!

and monero 1400h/s speed is for 6x5700 cards NOT ONE CARD!!!! FFS

stop the FUD

Definition of FUD being competing emotional claims without any supporting evidence. Word from the devs is the tools are broke, so any hashrate claims (whether high or low) are currently nonsense, unless you've got your own dev team.

Thanks for adding a well researched and beautifully punctuated counterpoint.

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July 17, 2019, 10:31:45 AM
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I'm excited to see where this ends hashing on multiple algorithms, this architecture should be the standard and architecture for a bit so it definitely all starts here for the continuing years.

To be honest with ethash I'm expecting Vega numbers once everything is worked out.
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July 17, 2019, 12:15:18 PM
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Actually the 5700xt is pretty good compared to what could offer in the past vega or even rx 590 x gtx 1070, both failed attempt, amd has now succeeded with 5700xt but to say is close to rtx 2080 is spreading misinformation around. 5700xt a little bit better than the rtx 2070 and 20% slower than the rtx 2080.


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