MintDice Bitcoin Casino - SportsBook & Provably Fair Games

[sana54210]

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Yeah, also what I sort of said above. I look at myself as a bankroll investor and I compare to those I know do affiliate marketing and we are completely and totally different. For the site I promote in my signature, yes, this used to be a dual nature since I naturally promote the site (and in fact even have quite a number of referrals just by wearing the signature and I guess people click from it),,, while they still had a public bankroll I was also investing in it.

But the other sites I invest in,,, absolutely do not advertise for. And those affiliates I know who advertise, they absolutely have no intention to invest. But anyway, same different same, right?

Yes, it is same result but different path and people fail to see that most of the time. Both of those people want the casino to win money, both of those people want people to come here and gamble and lose but in the end they take a whole different approach to it.

Investors just put their money in and they leave it be, they don't care about the rest of the work, they just put their money in and start waiting without any work just to collect their profits and that's it, whereas affiliates work really hard to get people here and make them gamble, however they don't risk anything neither, they just spend time and for some of us in third world countries time is not really "that" valuable when working but it is still something important. Once again, same end result but different paths I suppose.

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[batang_bitcoin]

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Still they are doing it for money by investing their time rather than money as their capital.Affiliate marketing is kind of smart marketing strategies because they are not going to pay anything from their pockets they are only giving small part from the total profits.If there is no profit for the house the marketer also will not get anything.Agree that time is important but when we don't have money we have to find an alternative source which is the time.

That 'something more' is the time that they are spending for marketing their own affiliate links. There's not much investment from the management itself if these affiliate marketers are doing their job as you've explained zhekinsp with the share they give to them.
It's the most valuable thing for them and the more affiliates they have, the higher commission they get so it's up on how they market it on their own.

[veleten]

I think having a community manager is one of the big costs of many casinos and mintdice never required it because theskillzdatklls (lol) never let us be and he helped us out all the time, we don't really know what costs they have in staff, we know there must be some costs technologically of course but we don't know who is in the team and how much people are paid and what other casinos pay to compare neither however at the same time we all know that they have been doing marketing properly so far, they have been doing proper games as well, they have been doing whatever they have done properly which shows how legit they are.

There is no way we can't trust and like mintdice because they have done more for their community than any other casino I have ever seen.

I feel like affiliate marketer is investing something more valuable than money, they are investing time. Time is not something you could make back, spending 20-30 hours to get more affiliates and earn money equals to your life having 20-30 less hours you didn't do something you enjoyed, if we all had millions of dollars in our bank account, not too rich to become billionaires and be super busy with stuff all the time but rich enough (like 4 million dollars in savings account, all liquid assets) to not care we would all spend our times enjoying life instead of working and do stuff we want to do instead of we have to do, so that 20-30 hours is not possible to make back.

If you invest money and lose, worst case scenario you could make it back some other way, but you can never take your time back so I feel like affiliate marketers are doing something much more important.

well , don't we all invest our most valuable asset - time into earning money and other , less important stuff  ( like actually living )
affiliate marketers at least are earning money through others , saving time eventually
like  John D. Rockefeller  once said : "I would rather earn 1% off a 100 people's efforts than 100% of my own efforts."  - can't be more true for affiliate marketers , the successful ones
because too many of them are only investing time and often money to get no profit because they didn't estimate the profit potential of an offer
 or spent too much money on a low return ad etc. , it is not an easy job and more often than not you lose out
and of course , the psychology of a billionaire is not "I earn 1 billion and then call it quits and buy an island and drink and have sex on a beach till the end of my life"
once you get the taste of big money , there is no stopping , its a dangerous game ... I wish to participate in one day 
 

[ThisSucks]

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

[theskillzdatklls]

I think having a community manager is one of the big costs of many casinos and mintdice never required it because theskillzdatklls (lol) never let us be and he helped us out all the time, we don't really know what costs they have in staff, we know there must be some costs technologically of course but we don't know who is in the team and how much people are paid and what other casinos pay to compare neither however at the same time we all know that they have been doing marketing properly so far, they have been doing proper games as well, they have been doing whatever they have done properly which shows how legit they are.

There is no way we can't trust and like mintdice because they have done more for their community than any other casino I have ever seen.

Thanks a lot for the nice words We are trying our best to do everything the correct way and I'm glad to hear that shows.

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

Sorry for the less than perfect experience... we do have automatic withdrawals but there are many conditions that can place your withdrawal into a manual queue for security reasons. These security conditions may lessen or change over time but for now we are being extra conservative to protect everyone's money. As frustrating as it may be, it's better to have to wait a few hours than to have a hacker steal everyone's money while we continue development.

I think having a community manager is one of the big costs of many casinos and mintdice never required it because theskillzdatklls (lol) never let us be and he helped us out all the time, we don't really know what costs they have in staff, we know there must be some costs technologically of course but we don't know who is in the team and how much people are paid and what other casinos pay to compare neither however at the same time we all know that they have been doing marketing properly so far, they have been doing proper games as well, they have been doing whatever they have done properly which shows how legit they are.

There is no way we can't trust and like mintdice because they have done more for their community than any other casino I have ever seen.

Is it necessary to know how much cost they have for marketing, staff and etc? I don't think it's very essential for a customer to know things like these. This is a confidential on their side, what's important is they are responding to the community they are building and satisfying each and every one of us.

We have some costs, but we're thinking long term and trying to develop an extremely compelling platform that will hopefully one day be one of the major players in the crypto gambling community. How and what we will do will depend a lot on the future of crypto and the reactions we get from the community as well. The things you guys all do and say here have a profound influence on the directions we take.

[zhekinsp]

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.

[Quidat]

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.

Delay is caused by 2 things;

Manual processing
Network congestion

When it comes to gambling business, most people will prefer instant withdrawals imho.

[nc50lc]

@Mintdice The Verifier (https://jsfiddle.net/MintDice/hz7x6r42/) might have a bug or have an incorrect algorithm than the site is using.
I've conducted two test and both have a different result than the bet result.
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The comment in the javascript stated that

 // this should be the concated userSeed + nonce with a '-' inbetween
  // so if your user seed is: "aHDF3sdf234sdf" and your nonce is: 3, the expected userSeed would be: "ahjfasdf234sdf-3"

Upon adding "-" between the user seed and nonce, the result matched.

So a simple edit of the displayed "user seed (nonced)" in the bet lookup page [from userseed1 to userseed-1] will remove the confusion because you should expect users to copy-paste than read the grayed-out comment in the code.
It's also a good thing to add an easy-to-understand algorithm (computation) in the website that a regular Joe can understand, and for independent verification.

[batang_bitcoin]

Is it necessary to know how much cost they have for marketing, staff and etc? I don't think it's very essential for a customer to know things like these. This is a confidential on their side, what's important is they are responding to the community they are building and satisfying each and every one of us.

We have some costs, but we're thinking long term and trying to develop an extremely compelling platform that will hopefully one day be one of the major players in the crypto gambling community. How and what we will do will depend a lot on the future of crypto and the reactions we get from the community as well. The things you guys all do and say here have a profound influence on the directions we take.

Actually, you don't have to answer those kind of questions about the marketing cost, that's already out of a customers concern. It's usual to have that thing being a company that wants to expand and gain the attention of the most players. I'm also supporting you guys about your long term plan and as you can see there are new casinos that just founded few years or months ago and they've took the attention of everyone. And it's not impossible that you'll also sharing the road way going to the up.

[bhabygrim]

Hi I am just wondering when would this gambling site be mobile friendly or be available to be open via mobile phones?
This could affect your site since not all of the gamblers are playing on their computer there are some who likes to play on their mobile device.
Maybe fixing this could also gain some new gamblers to the site.

[theskillzdatklls]

Hi I am just wondering when would this gambling site be mobile friendly or be available to be open via mobile phones?
This could affect your site since not all of the gamblers are playing on their computer there are some who likes to play on their mobile device.
Maybe fixing this could also gain some new gamblers to the site.

Hey, it's a good question, we actually just optimized to help speed up the progress the past week since it's a very large and slow process. Hopefully that speeds things along a bit at least a little. The long answer is that we've been putting the majority of our resources dedicated specifically to this task since approximately July. And hopefully it wraps up by around Feb-March, at which point the entire website will get massive upgrades / games and mobile compatibility. But no promises, because development is very tough and timelines are extremely unreliable going off of past experiences.

I could potentially share some details as to how this will look with you guys soon as a preview of sorts, maybe in the coming weeks. That way if there were any last minute comments we could try to implement them as well if they were worth while

[bering]

Hi I am just wondering when would this gambling site be mobile friendly or be available to be open via mobile phones?
This could affect your site since not all of the gamblers are playing on their computer there are some who likes to play on their mobile device.
Maybe fixing this could also gain some new gamblers to the site.

So far only dice available to played using mobile phone and indeed some of people mobile gamblers including me that sometimes i was gambling use my mobile phone and by available for mobile version i think it can increase the players to playing at mindice too so i wish the owners will considering this and will added this as soon as possible

[panjul07]

Hi I am just wondering when would this gambling site be mobile friendly or be available to be open via mobile phones?
This could affect your site since not all of the gamblers are playing on their computer there are some who likes to play on their mobile device.
Maybe fixing this could also gain some new gamblers to the site.

So far only dice available to played using mobile phone and indeed some of people mobile gamblers including me that sometimes i was gambling use my mobile phone and by available for mobile version i think it can increase the players to playing at mindice too so i wish the owners will considering this and will added this as soon as possible

I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.
So it should be one of the priority to do list.
2019 is getting close to its end, I wonder what will Mintdice on the beginning of the new year. Will be there something like great updates on the site? Or great promotions?
So far, Mintdice is the only site that has signature campaign but lack of promotions. It is unfortunate if you ask me.

[sana54210]

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well , don't we all invest our most valuable asset - time into earning money and other , less important stuff  ( like actually living )
affiliate marketers at least are earning money through others , saving time eventually
like  John D. Rockefeller  once said : "I would rather earn 1% off a 100 people's efforts than 100% of my own efforts."  - can't be more true for affiliate marketers , the successful ones
because too many of them are only investing time and often money to get no profit because they didn't estimate the profit potential of an offer
 or spent too much money on a low return ad etc. , it is not an easy job and more often than not you lose out
and of course , the psychology of a billionaire is not "I earn 1 billion and then call it quits and buy an island and drink and have sex on a beach till the end of my life"
once you get the taste of big money , there is no stopping , its a dangerous game ... I wish to participate in one day 

What we are missing out is that mintdice does their own marketing as well, which is awesome for investors but not really awesome for the affiliates who want to do the marketing themselves . So, investors do not have a rival, they invest and that's it, it is a simple job and you have no one that is stopping you or basically your competition, the more money there is the more maximum bet will become so it is even better for people to help out.

However, when you are an affiliate marketer even the casino itself is your competition and there are other people who are your competition as well. Otherwise we would all like to be the only person with binance affiliate link and get millions of people right? We can't, why? Because people are either already users or they see it from someone who spends a lot more money than us, same in everywhere.

[Ryker1]

I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.

Well, I assume that both of you assuming to have an apps version. Most android phones as of now can access the website through chrome or what browser you have on your phone. Indeed, I think the mobile app version is not necessary and probably it will happen but not now.
Or there is something must be prior to developing than the mobile version.

[adaseb]

I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.

Well, I assume that both of you assuming to have an apps version. Most android phones as of now can access the website through chrome or what browser you have on your phone. Indeed, I think the mobile app version is not necessary and probably it will happen but not now.
Or there is something must be prior to developing than the mobile version.

I think they are confused with what an mobile app is and what a mobile web app is. Basically its difficult getting a mobile app up and running. It would need to be approved by Google and Apple and it will be difficult to get done since anything crypto related is diffult to list and same with gambling. So I wouldn't expect an actual Mintdice App found on the iOS store or Google Play.

However most gambling websites have mobile friendly versions of the website, so when the server detects that its someone trying to access the site thru a mobile browser it sends it to be a more "smaller screen" friendly page and people can easily play dice that way. It would be very difficult to play with the actual full screen where you need to zoom in and zoom out constantly. Bitcointalk forum is actually like that, there is no mobile version and it requires lots of zooming in and zooming out to browse. Its fine on an iPad but difficult if you are trying to read anything on an iPhone.

[jostorres]

Delay is caused by 2 things;

Manual processing
Network congestion

When it comes to gambling business, most people will prefer instant withdrawals imho.

Manual withdrawal is one thing because it happens and we can talk about that later but network congestion is not that important. When blockchain is clogged and your money is not coming that quickly that doesn't mean it is not coming, if that is the problem 99% of the time you see it not coming but sent, so the money is no longer in mintdice control but it is also not under your control, the money is basically "on the way" so it doesn't mean anything that it takes time, as long as it is coming and on the way, it will eventually reach, at most 48 hours but still it is coming and you see it and that is very important.

Manual one is different, that is probably for more stopping the people who abuse the system and it doesn't work 100% so sometimes you catch people who play fair as well.

[darewaller]

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.

Of course it shows, you guys have been one of the most active ones replying to customers and that is one of the most important ones.

Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.

There is usually one account that comes in and posts marketing related stuff and leaves without ever talking to people which is the most common version, I don't know why they think that is enough or that is any different from not having anything at all because it is not working, or they have nobody to begin with. You come here and seriously "chat" with people and that is very very very rare.

[Zicadis]

You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/

For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.

Of course it shows, you guys have been one of the most active ones replying to customers and that is one of the most important ones.

Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.

There is usually one account that comes in and posts marketing related stuff and leaves without ever talking to people which is the most common version, I don't know why they think that is enough or that is any different from not having anything at all because it is not working, or they have nobody to begin with. You come here and seriously "chat" with people and that is very very very rare.

I think other threads don't show the same level of customer responses here due to the fact that these are taken up in different medias like Telegram etc. In my experience, when having trouble with one particular casino I found that the best was to reach them for support was either via Telegram or via their support chat rooms on the websites but not often here directly as I found that my matters were dealt with in a relatively speedy manner. So I never had to post on here for example but I understand that there might be people on here who are not aware that they can contact these people in many different ways - I suppose its a good reminder

[batang_bitcoin]

I could potentially share some details as to how this will look with you guys soon as a preview of sorts, maybe in the coming weeks. That way if there were any last minute comments we could try to implement them as well if they were worth while

Please do if you're ready to share it. The community would always want to give feedback for any upgrade that a casino is doing.

I think other threads don't show the same level of customer responses here due to the fact that these are taken up in different medias like Telegram etc. In my experience, when having trouble with one particular casino I found that the best was to reach them for support was either via Telegram or via their support chat rooms on the websites but not often here directly as I found that my matters were dealt with in a relatively speedy manner. So I never had to post on here for example but I understand that there might be people on here who are not aware that they can contact these people in many different ways - I suppose its a good reminder

You've said it right. They are not active as the supports/devs of mintdice. Although, I've seen some that are also conversing with their customers through their threads but you're correct about not showing the same response as mintdice do.