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June 14, 2019, 04:13:52 AM
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Hello there,

I made a small deposit a while ago and played some bets on the plinko game but I think there is something wrong with the game. I hit 70x on it and my balance was not even added half of 70x of my balance. As I remember I was started with 80k satoshi, playing 25bets with @1000 satoshi each and one of the bets hit 70x but my balance after the 25 bets finished was around 90k satoshi only. Logically even if my other 24bets hits 0x payout then I should make more than 30k sat profit.
I tried to check my bets history but shows nothing http://prntscr.com/o198e8, I tried to chat but I could not. Why?

Please kindly check although I almost lose all my balance now as I want to see the my bet history. I tried to refresh the page many times but still unable to see my bets history.

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I just noticed that there is also something weird under the all bets tab. I just made some other bets on dice game and I can see the list of bets under all bets history is updated but it does not show my username. It shows other username (LASERGRIN5059) while I'm very sure I'm the one who made the bets. I dont even know whose username is that while I'm using the same username as my bitcointalk username.
I suggest other people not to deposit on this site at least until the fix the problem. Sorry to say but I regret to deposit and play in this site but luckily I did lose small amount only for testing purpose.

Thank you for your post. I understand your frustration.

Regarding Plinko this is a known rare bug we've attempted to solve for some time. The issue is that the dice doesn't fall into its proper hole. I can assure you that if you were not credited 70x, your bet truly did not achieve 70x. The backend doesn't make mistakes but the front end may. Having said that, we are applying a lot of front end talent to solving this issue immediately.

As for the account bug, sometimes this can happen if you try to open multiple windows since it is a single page application. We hope to fix this as soon as possible as well.

I'm sorry for your experience. We can credit you more money to make up for your shortfall. We can process it once we fix these bugs if you would like to revisit for free. Let me know what you think.

So it is a known visual bug? Why you did not notify your potential users if there is such bug? I do not want to blame you but I believe it is always better if you tell your users if there is something wrong with your game although it is only about visual. Anyway how about the my bets history? Is it a bug too as I still unable to see my bets history?
Hopefully you can fix it as soon as possible. Also about the chat, you say that someone need to have an account. In fact I have an account but I cant post any messages on your chat room. Any messages I typed is gone once I press enter or click the "chat" button.
Last but not least, I do not ask for refund of my lose but if you offer something as a reward for the inconvenience I got while playing then I'm glad to come back and play again in the near future. Thanks
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June 14, 2019, 07:06:17 AM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

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June 14, 2019, 02:44:25 PM
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In overall, everything is nice and seems there was done work before launching website which usually a lot of starters lack, so to sum up, congrats, nice.
But can't call it world's best fully featured casino because there are better ones too, let's say truth.
But I have one question, not only to you but in overall for every casino that offers investment option: How can you make it transparent? How do I know that you don't manually manipulate win/loss? You know you have access to server seeds and etc which gives you possibility to create account and win any amount you wish.

Thank you for the feedback!

Regarding your question, the best mathematical signal you can use is to look at the expected amount won by the website against the actual amount won. However, this can vary heavily from winning a lot to losing a lot due to variance, even if the site operators are being perfectly honest.
This applies to any website. Ultimately it comes down to trust because there's no way to know for sure.


So it is a known visual bug? Why you did not notify your potential users if there is such bug? I do not want to blame you but I believe it is always better if you tell your users if there is something wrong with your game although it is only about visual. Anyway how about the my bets history? Is it a bug too as I still unable to see my bets history?
Hopefully you can fix it as soon as possible. Also about the chat, you say that someone need to have an account. In fact I have an account but I cant post any messages on your chat room. Any messages I typed is gone once I press enter or click the "chat" button.
Last but not least, I do not ask for refund of my lose but if you offer something as a reward for the inconvenience I got while playing then I'm glad to come back and play again in the near future. Thanks

Thank you for answering.

It is logistically almost impossible to post every bug to every problem, especially because we constantly work on them. I understand that it is frustrating and many things are difficult to understand from the user perspective. But please be assured that we do our best. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience the bug caused you.

I cannot figure out why the chat doesn't work for you. We are working hard on improving the site in general and on fixing bugs. I truly hope that the issue disappears in the process of those improvements.

The extra money credited would indeed be in the form of a reward rather than a refund. We'll be in touch once the issue has been resolved.

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June 14, 2019, 05:20:14 PM
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i like the design of the site. good luck and hope you do well

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June 14, 2019, 10:30:50 PM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

Our investment opportunity is definitely not a Ponzi scheme. A Ponzi/pyramid scheme pays out people by other people investing. We pay people out by gamblers losing to the house edge. They are fundamentally different principles. We created a separate section in our FAQ to clear up the confusion. Please click here for a more detailed explanation.

To better understand how casino investing works, click here. We have lots of information about investing in our free guide on MintDice.com and in our FAQ.

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June 15, 2019, 05:24:23 AM
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In overall, everything is nice and seems there was done work before launching website which usually a lot of starters lack, so to sum up, congrats, nice.
But can't call it world's best fully featured casino because there are better ones too, let's say truth.
But I have one question, not only to you but in overall for every casino that offers investment option: How can you make it transparent? How do I know that you don't manually manipulate win/loss? You know you have access to server seeds and etc which gives you possibility to create account and win any amount you wish.

Thank you for the feedback!

Regarding your question, the best mathematical signal you can use is to look at the expected amount won by the website against the actual amount won. However, this can vary heavily from winning a lot to losing a lot due to variance, even if the site operators are being perfectly honest.
This applies to any website. Ultimately it comes down to trust because there's no way to know for sure.


And there where everything will be assess, the trust that investors can give to those casino house who offers this investment, it will continue to rely
with how investors will place their money  and build trust to a particular casino house to ride with the bankroll and try to find some luck to earned.
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June 15, 2019, 10:51:36 AM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

Our investment opportunity is definitely not a Ponzi scheme. A Ponzi/pyramid scheme pays out people by other people investing. We pay people out by gamblers losing to the house edge. They are fundamentally different principles. We created a separate section in our FAQ to clear up the confusion. Please click here for a more detailed explanation.

To better understand how casino investing works, click here. We have lots of information about investing in our free guide on MintDice.com and in our FAQ.

investing in a casino's bankroll is not a Ponzi , I wonder where did people take this idea from ?
the only thing in common is that it is risky and you can turn negative profit if some whale(s) get lucky
other than that investing is the best and the safest way to gain some profit on your coins that otherwise be gathering dust in your wallets
mind you , never invest or gamble more than you can lose and do not consider it as the only source of income
you have a decent FAQ on investment , I suggest you take a page of bitvest's book and add information about how you store and handle bankroll:
https://blog.bitvest.io/post/how-bitvest-stores-your-coins
https://bitvest.io/liabilities

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June 16, 2019, 07:12:24 AM
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I think I am not even fully trusting the decentralized places on that investment part. Eosbet for example is a decentralized place and the owners are not controlling the website itself, it is purely running of its own and even to make any profit the owners basically created a bet token that they have 30% of all of them while giving away the other 70% as well to people who wager on the website as an incentive.

Yet, I still believe that there could be something going on behind it, I mean I am not saying there is something wrong but I am saying if there was any then we wouldn't know about it. That is why I honestly think that you have to just trust a place if you really want to invest and there is no way you can find out if they are scamming you or not since that is not possible.

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June 16, 2019, 07:41:52 AM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

The strange thing about a lot of you people with Stake is that you do not seem to really understand a lot of the concepts in crypto gambling. You do realize also that all investments actually are,,, a form of gambling, right? You gamble on the success of the business or the idea or the investment, whether it is casino bankroll or a real life business or stocks markets. You should really be sure of what you talk about before accusing others of ponzi.

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June 16, 2019, 07:57:45 AM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

The strange thing about a lot of you people with Stake is that you do not seem to really understand a lot of the concepts in crypto gambling. You do realize also that all investments actually are,,, a form of gambling, right? You gamble on the success of the business or the idea or the investment, whether it is casino bankroll or a real life business or stocks markets. You should really be sure of what you talk about before accusing others of ponzi.

He should not judge something that he do not even understand about, he is accusing a gambling site is offering ponzi scheme investment while it is not. It is obviously baseless accusation because of his lack of knowledge about gambling investment on the house's bankroll. I do even think that he is not understanding what is ponzi scheme investment because bankroll investment in a gambling site is completelty different with ponzi scheme investment. I cant even find something that is related or even close to ponzi in the Investing page of Mintdice.

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June 16, 2019, 12:02:01 PM
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Humph… okay, your website looks good and everything is working. But what are you calling an investment?  A ponzi scheme? That's no investment, it's still the same thing as gambling with your money. And I don't do ponzi schemes, if I want to do investment I go for a real investment that I'm sure about what' I'm. Going to gain from it. Bitcoin is the only investment I do that. Not sure of what's going to be the outcome, but others I do are not like that. Your website is good but what you have explained is not an investment but a ponzi and I don't like ponzi, cause you already know how they always disappoint and worst of it all you're still new.

The strange thing about a lot of you people with Stake is that you do not seem to really understand a lot of the concepts in crypto gambling. You do realize also that all investments actually are,,, a form of gambling, right? You gamble on the success of the business or the idea or the investment, whether it is casino bankroll or a real life business or stocks markets. You should really be sure of what you talk about before accusing others of ponzi.

I only pay attention to a chosen few posters wearing Stake's sig now , to be honest
most of them have no idea what are they talking about , at least when gambling is concerned
and what do you expect when they are getting paid 3$ per 10 posts , the only thing they care is to churn as many posts as they can

investment is when the house advantage is on your side , you , technically , bet against the players with a certain leverage aka margin
this way your win ( and loss) is proportional to the amount of money you invested vs the total bankroll
while paying a handling fee , usually 30-40% of the profit, it is VERY profitable , usually
I have a 2 year history of investing into different bankrolls , so far only one of them can be considered bad
the rest were/are making profit , slowly but steadily

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June 16, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
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Another gambling and I saw the games was always common to the most gambling site right now. Maybe I suggest you can add some other games who are different from the other.  I suggest like Keno and Mines who popular games now . But anything else I don't have see problem by registered all is good and smooth also the design is good it makes catch my attention.
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June 16, 2019, 04:42:00 PM
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Another gambling and I saw the games was always common to the most gambling site right now. Maybe I suggest you can add some other games who are different from the other.  I suggest like Keno and Mines who popular games now . But anything else I don't have see problem by registered all is good and smooth also the design is good it makes catch my attention.
Yes, if you can add more additional games which is unique and really attractable in order to get some attentions not only for the visitors but more with'the gamblers who always looking for new sets of site / casino house to play gambling, more people will be attract if the team will add new games that have some uniqueness compared to the same game that most gambling house already offered.
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June 17, 2019, 12:14:47 AM
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I think I am not even fully trusting the decentralized places on that investment part. Eosbet for example is a decentralized place and the owners are not controlling the website itself, it is purely running of its own and even to make any profit the owners basically created a bet token that they have 30% of all of them while giving away the other 70% as well to people who wager on the website as an incentive.

Yet, I still believe that there could be something going on behind it, I mean I am not saying there is something wrong but I am saying if there was any then we wouldn't know about it. That is why I honestly think that you have to just trust a place if you really want to invest and there is no way you can find out if they are scamming you or not since that is not possible.

Thank you for sharing your opinion. However, while that may apply to EOS, many people that prefer to only use Bitcoin will not have that option.


Another gambling and I saw the games was always common to the most gambling site right now. Maybe I suggest you can add some other games who are different from the other.  I suggest like Keno and Mines who popular games now . But anything else I don't have see problem by registered all is good and smooth also the design is good it makes catch my attention.

Thank you for your comment!
We plan on releasing a 5th game in July and a 6th game in August/September.
We give a lot of attention to quality. Hence we only release games of very high standard. The downside is that they take a long time to build.


Another gambling and I saw the games was always common to the most gambling site right now. Maybe I suggest you can add some other games who are different from the other.  I suggest like Keno and Mines who popular games now . But anything else I don't have see problem by registered all is good and smooth also the design is good it makes catch my attention.
Yes, if you can add more additional games which is unique and really attractable in order to get some attentions not only for the visitors but more with'the gamblers who always looking for new sets of site / casino house to play gambling, more people will be attract if the team will add new games that have some uniqueness compared to the same game that most gambling house already offered.

Spot-on! Our goal moving forward is to make extremely unique and compelling games only. Nothing that has existed before.
Make sure you stay tuned for our new games, released already this year!


investing in a casino's bankroll is not a Ponzi , I wonder where did people take this idea from ?
the only thing in common is that it is risky and you can turn negative profit if some whale(s) get lucky
other than that investing is the best and the safest way to gain some profit on your coins that otherwise be gathering dust in your wallets
mind you , never invest or gamble more than you can lose and do not consider it as the only source of income
you have a decent FAQ on investment , I suggest you take a page of bitvest's book and add information about how you store and handle bankroll:
https://blog.bitvest.io/post/how-bitvest-stores-your-coins
https://bitvest.io/liabilities

Thanks for the support and input! Smiley

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June 17, 2019, 09:48:52 PM
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finally got to play multiplayer Bitrocket for the first time last night. that was so much fun. really looking forward to more multiplayer games. I've had a bad run at the slot machines
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June 17, 2019, 11:54:48 PM
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The first moment i entered the colors just cativated me in checking your site a bit more.
I also noticed some games played at Stake as the Plinko and Bit Rocket kinda looks like Limbo which are not unique and many Casinos have them already.
One think i did loved was the fact you having Slots Machine on a Casino with Dice and diversity games, that was unexpected Tongue

What's the minimum amount for withdrawal at the moment by the way?
And when new currencies coming out?

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June 18, 2019, 11:15:54 AM
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The first moment i entered the colors just cativated me in checking your site a bit more.
I also noticed some games played at Stake as the Plinko and Bit Rocket kinda looks like Limbo which are not unique and many Casinos have them already.
One think i did loved was the fact you having Slots Machine on a Casino with Dice and diversity games, that was unexpected Tongue

What's the minimum amount for withdrawal at the moment by the way?
And when new currencies coming out?

Thank you for the comment.

Other coins will be added soon. We plan to start introducing them within 1-2 months.

Please find all information regarding withdrawal amounts here. I included a screenshot of them for your convenience below Smiley


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June 18, 2019, 08:43:52 PM
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I am seeing that one of the mintdice official accounts is actively answering each and every question here.
This is a good sign that they want to take care of their clients or potential players.
If they will continue this kind of response to every user here, they will earn respect in no time.
And they already secured their license, it means they are sincere in joining this gambling business

But to lower the minimum deposit and withdrawal limit, maybe in the future you can integrate lightning network in your payment system.
Your current blockchain fee even choosing the economy rate is too high for small time players.
I hope you will consider the LN in the future to catch those players.
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June 19, 2019, 05:14:35 PM
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I am seeing that one of the mintdice official accounts is actively answering each and every question here.
This is a good sign that they want to take care of their clients or potential players.
If they will continue this kind of response to every user here, they will earn respect in no time.
And they already secured their license, it means they are sincere in joining this gambling business

But to lower the minimum deposit and withdrawal limit, maybe in the future you can integrate lightning network in your payment system.
Your current blockchain fee even choosing the economy rate is too high for small time players.
I hope you will consider the LN in the future to catch those players.

Thank you for the comment. We are happy to hear that our commitment is noticed Smiley

And also thank you for the suggestion. Lightning network is indeed a goal of ours, however, a very long term one. We plan to integrate it in 1-2 years. Before that we have a pretty long list of other things we need to focus on and implement first  Cool

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So what happens when a US player deposits btc and wins and tries to withdrawl it? Do you keep the funds and scream to your ToS? Because you don't try to stop US players from playing, all they have to do is click a button saying they are using a proxy and are free to use your site
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