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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129806 times)
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March 19, 2020, 11:04:08 AM
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Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.
The pandemic confirms indirectly what Mr. Trump does is right (at least in the aspect of economy). Global corporations and financial returns from such global correlations, no. Every nations have to solve their own issues and have to build up their own economy. Relying on the other nations is very stupid. The Covid-19 pandemic confirms it when the world falls into a serious lack of face mask supplies due to main supplies from China was broken.
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The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.
However, it is fair for all when the whole Europe has nearly in lockdown or will be lockdown soon. All players have to do their own excercises to maitain their healthy fitness for the come back days. The rest matches of national leagues and Champions league & Europa league take lots of time and players also need time-break before joining the Euro 2020. So, in a nutshell, it is the best to reschedule Euro 2020 till 2021.

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March 19, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
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Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.

The pandemic confirms indirectly what Mr. Trump does is right (at least in the aspect of economy). Global corporations and financial returns from such global correlations, no. Every nations have to solve their own issues and have to build up their own economy. Relying on the other nations is very stupid. The Covid-19 pandemic confirms it when the world falls into a serious lack of face mask supplies due to main supplies from China was broken.

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The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.

However, it is fair for all when the whole Europe has nearly in lockdown or will be lockdown soon. All players have to do their own excercises to maitain their healthy fitness for the come back days. The rest matches of national leagues and Champions league & Europa league take lots of time and players also need time-break before joining the Euro 2020. So, in a nutshell, it is the best to reschedule Euro 2020 till 2021.

No, no... Trump is rarely right. He is occasionally, but I think it's pure luck Grin Sorry, I had to Grin

I'm not sure what my statement about finding a vaccine has to do with each country solving it's own problems. Don't you think that everyone will have access to vaccine when it's developed? I'm sure that a company that develops a vaccine will put it to market ass soon as possible. For the right price, of course.

As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

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March 19, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
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As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

If a worker can work 345 of 365 days a year for 20k yearly, I'm pretty sure they can run for 300 days a year for some millions.

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March 19, 2020, 07:55:07 PM
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As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

If a worker can work 345 of 365 days a year for 20k yearly, I'm pretty sure they can run for 300 days a year for some millions.

I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

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March 19, 2020, 08:28:55 PM
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Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

Even if they have a big salary and earn a lot of money, some of them are so stupid. For example Luka Jovic. He leaves isolation specified by his club Real Madrid and goes home in Belgrade to celebrate his birthday with girlfriend and friends. He is also determined quarantine on Belgrade especially when they come from the critical territory. criminal charges will be filed against him with the threat of imprisonment.

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March 19, 2020, 08:33:51 PM
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Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

Even if they have a big salary and earn a lot of money, some of them are so stupid. For example Luka Jovic. He leaves isolation specified by his club Real Madrid and goes home in Belgrade to celebrate his birthday with girlfriend and friends. He is also determined quarantine on Belgrade especially when they come from the critical territory. criminal charges will be filed against him with the threat of imprisonment.

Of course there are some stupid actions. I just don't like those "they are payed in millions so they better run" comments. You can give someone a billion dollars to run 100 meters in less than 7 seconds, but no one will be able to do it. They have big salaries because they are in high demand. Not because they are aliens that can do things other humans can't.

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March 19, 2020, 08:55:23 PM
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I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)

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March 19, 2020, 10:34:05 PM
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I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)


All occupations have risks and income. Football is not just an ordinary sport, in which there is a running business. Therefore every soccer player can get a bigger salary, because every field of the job is different.

To be sure, don't ever complain. We never know what burden everyone feels at work.

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March 20, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
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I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)


The fact is there is no easy job because every job is important. The only difference is that some workers are more valuable because of their abilities. There are plenty of people that are capable od working at a cash register, but there are only a handful of people that can play football like professional players do. Besides, if you think that playing football like a professional player is easy, why don't you try? Wouldn't you like to earn millions for playing football?

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March 20, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
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I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)


The fact is there is no easy job because every job is important. The only difference is that some workers are more valuable because of their abilities. There are plenty of people that are capable od working at a cash register, but there are only a handful of people that can play football like professional players do. Besides, if you think that playing football like a professional player is easy, why don't you try? Wouldn't you like to earn millions for playing football?

i would add story from one of my co-workers, that is programming alarm systems, but could be any other business - they are not paying their skills on the field, they are paying them because of popularity, aka. number of people that is watching them while they play, if 10.000 people would cheer him up while programming alarm system and watch it every time, he would also make millions, and that is the same for cash worker, and most of other workplaces, take for example famous cooks, they are maybe not the best but people like to watch them and they are popular, so pay is raising
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March 23, 2020, 06:28:43 PM
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The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

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March 23, 2020, 09:03:53 PM
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I doubt UCL will resume this year as there was a new statement world wide and we probably going to sit home until the end of August so there is no way UCL will resume this year and I wonder if Man.City will get the ban lifted for the next year as they couldn't play this year in UCL like all the other teams so it would be fair-play from FIFA to grant them access for 2021.

If somehow the UCL resumes I doubt it will gather any attention as the world is too panicked right now to think of sports....

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March 23, 2020, 09:16:06 PM
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The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

I think the best decision is to postpone all sporting activities until further notice. Because date shifting, organizing meetings (even if its zoom) is not needed at this point.
Suspend all tournaments, let the world heal and recover, then debates can start on a complete overhaul of season.

But in my own opinion, i will say end this season any time it ends, void the coming season, so players can prepare for euros, then refresh the league 2021/2022.

Perhaps until further notice, removes speculations.




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The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

This was really an inevitable decision to happen and I was wondering why members here are assuming that since they postponed the Euros first it was because they want to give priority for both UCL and UEL which looking at it realistically isn't possible. Europe particularly in Italy, U.K., Spain, and France doesn't show signs of the infection slowing down and these four countries who have a lot of infections are the ones who are still part of the Champions league so without them recovering until now I don't see UEFA continuing their competition. Other than that we have seen reports of teams having players being infected with the COVID-19 some of them are even the star of the team like Dybala and I don't think Juventus will let the competition continue with their team being underpowered.

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March 24, 2020, 03:36:51 AM
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The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

This was really an inevitable decision to happen and I was wondering why members here are assuming that since they postponed the Euros first it was because they want to give priority for both UCL and UEL which looking at it realistically isn't possible. Europe particularly in Italy, U.K., Spain, and France doesn't show signs of the infection slowing down and these four countries who have a lot of infections are the ones who are still part of the Champions league so without them recovering until now I don't see UEFA continuing their competition. Other than that we have seen reports of teams having players being infected with the COVID-19 some of them are even the star of the team like Dybala and I don't think Juventus will let the competition continue with their team being underpowered.

@Theb yea we all knew this was coming and I too wasn’t optimistic about the leagues resuming again anytime soon, but now we officially know that’s it’s not coming in April or May. In my personal opinion we won’t have the 2020 - 2021 season instead we will see the resumption of 2019 - 2020 season sometime later in the year and once all the leagues end then Euro 2021 will be played (*this is just my theory, not a official statement*).
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This was expected as football is postponed everywhere in Europe.The Spanish Soccer Federation agreed to suspend every football event until a new order from the government.Such situation is everywhere in the countries of the teams that are still playing in Champions League in this phase so it is only natural that the Champions is postponed until a new second notice.

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March 25, 2020, 07:45:30 AM
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This was expected as football is postponed everywhere in Europe.The Spanish Soccer Federation agreed to suspend every football event until a new order from the government.Such situation is everywhere in the countries of the teams that are still playing in Champions League in this phase so it is only natural that the Champions is postponed until a new second notice.

If we want to see Champions League being played again, we firstly have to see all the European leagues to be played again.
By the time at least one of the leagues is postponed we are not going to see the competition proceeding anymore.
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My prediction, and too bad Spurs got knocked out already ;( is that all the clubs will be able to play full strength teams all healthy,,, but not all match fit. So we might be seeing full squads but the football will not be very nice to watch when it all restarts again.

I remember playing after many months even keeping fit in gym, when you are on the field again it is completely different.

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^  Yup.  Feels like your body has just woken up and it needs more time on the pitch to get your momentum back.  It could be good betting on the underdogs.  Lol.

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^  Yup.  Feels like your body has just woken up and it needs more time on the pitch to get your momentum back.  It could be good betting on the underdogs.  Lol.

If (and I hope we do) the season resumes you’re right, it could be a good idea to bet on an underdog, who knows maybe PSG will win it finally. I think Bayern are looking really good right now though.

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