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August 09, 2020, 11:22:59 PM
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It seems not much people pay attention on Atletico Madrid and Leipzig match , this could be easy money when you are a die hard Atletico Madrid fan and looking to bet for them to win Leipzig on moneyline.
Straight outta lisbon!

Atletico has two positive tests in their team, but it's yet unknown if staff or players. Odds are already going south for Leipzig, which might be a bit of an overreaction. But since they didn't publish the names, it might be players, because you could easily reveal the names if it was "just" staff. There is also the possibility of more individuals getting tested positive in the upcoming days (incubation time), so I would be very careful with betting on Atletico Wink
Maybe Leipzig will even advance to next round without any play, if there are more cases.

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August 10, 2020, 08:02:31 AM
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Never rule Barca out of any match, Messi can pull a rabbit out of a hat at any moment.

Sure, Messi the key player for barcelona but when Bayern can mark him, barcelona will be on trouble. Makes 1 player to working in high mobility is not good. When the key player marked with limit zone to move, Barca will be easy to stopped.

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Barcelona will need other ways to reach the ball to Suarez maybe in order to score goals.
Apparently, the defensive line is going to play Messi stronger in order not to let him dribble or pass for goal.
Maybe those actions are needed to happen from Griezmann in this game in order to surprise the German team while they will be focused on Messi 100%.

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August 10, 2020, 08:11:18 AM
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It seems not much people pay attention on Atletico Madrid and Leipzig match , this could be easy money when you are a die hard Atletico Madrid fan and looking to bet for them to win Leipzig on moneyline.
Straight outta lisbon!

Atletico has two positive tests in their team, but it's yet unknown if staff or players. Odds are already going south for Leipzig, which might be a bit of an overreaction. But since they didn't publish the names, it might be players, because you could easily reveal the names if it was "just" staff. There is also the possibility of more individuals getting tested positive in the upcoming days (incubation time), so I would be very careful with betting on Atletico Wink
Maybe Leipzig will even advance to next round without any play, if there are more cases.

I don't think that's going to happen.
I think that UEFA already has a plan for such situations and that these 2 players will probably be quarantined and the other players will go into self-isolation and will have additional tests.
If the other players are negative in the test, I'm sure that this match will be played.

EDIT: I just came across this news in Marca:
https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2020/08/09/5f306c5de2704e1e778b45cd.html

So, it's confirmed at leat one player is infected.
Everyone will be tested again on Monday.

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August 10, 2020, 08:26:42 AM
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Never rule Barca out of any match, Messi can pull a rabbit out of a hat at any moment.

Sure, Messi the key player for barcelona but when Bayern can mark him, barcelona will be on trouble. Makes 1 player to working in high mobility is not good. When the key player marked with limit zone to move, Barca will be easy to stopped.


Barcelona will need other ways to reach the ball to Suarez maybe in order to score goals.
Apparently, the defensive line is going to play Messi stronger in order not to let him dribble or pass for goal.
Maybe those actions are needed to happen from Griezmann in this game in order to surprise the German team while they will be focused on Messi 100%.
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August 10, 2020, 09:15:24 AM
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Nah if City able to beat Lyon, they will meet Barcelona or Muenchen in semifinal.
Only 1 team from Barca, Bayern and City will make it to the final... The job was easier in the other part for one of those teams.
PSG, Atalanta looks better to follow at least rather than ATM vs Leipzig which failed too much in Bundesliga..
Friday match (Barca - Bayern) is the best imo then Atalanta - PSG.


Well, Atalanta BC vs Paris Saint-Germain FC in 2 days - best odds: 2.93 - 3.58 - 1.99. I bet on draw.
 Manchester City FC vs Olympique Lyonnais in 5 days - best odds: 1.23 - 5.42 - 8.95.  Should me bet on Manchester?

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August 10, 2020, 09:44:25 AM
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Messi no doubt a great player and can change a game anytime but at the end of the day, this is a game of team and as a team Barca is far away I guess from Bayern.
It is true. We don't deny that Messi is a special player who can make a significant influence in the game. But he can't play alone and need support from other players. Bayern also has strong players like Neuer and Lewandowski who have the ability to change the course of the game. Even, they are better as a team at playing, unlike Messi who seems playing alone. In this matter, I also prefer to choose Bayern as the winner and goes to the next stage. Sorry for Barca fans, but It is not my own perspective but most people stated the same thing.
Sometimes Lionel Messi doesn't stir when the opponent already knows his weakness and that has happened several times so Messi will not bring significant impact on Barcelona's influence, Bayern have a strong mentality in defense and also my attackers prefer Lewandowski who is always sharp in front of goal and only misses a bit so when there is the right shot it might be a goal for Bayern Munich.
Let's bet who is better in my opinion Bayern Munich will dominate and continue to attack.

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August 10, 2020, 10:40:20 AM
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Damn I fell down even further and it hurts me because I used to be in a winning spot,,, just goes to show I think you have to try and predict like the masses to be safely in a winning zone (but to get #1 you have to be very clever!).

I guess no more time for upsets now except maybe for PSG what do you think? But Atalanta is such small odds for such a big opponent is the Mbappe factor so important?

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August 10, 2020, 11:37:27 AM
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City was really lucky with Lyon going through. Juventus was a team that really does not suit them based on their playstyle and in 1 game they could have caused them a lot of problems.

Lyon showed they can defend well but they are inferior to City in every position on the pitch and it would be a miracle if they did not advance to the semifinals.

Atalanta-PSG looks like a 5+ goals game, I'm really looking forward to that one.

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August 10, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
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I guess no more time for upsets now except maybe for PSG what do you think? But Atalanta is such small odds for such a big opponent is the Mbappe factor so important?
PSG's chances are very big in Atalanta's quarter-finals maybe it will be quite difficult for a bit but I think this can be overcome by PSG, of course Mbappe is very important on the right front line because it will greatly affect fast attacks from Mbappe and Neymar.

I am sure that even if it is playing away for PSG they will win.

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August 10, 2020, 12:22:19 PM
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Atalanta-PSG looks like a 5+ goals game, I'm really looking forward to that one.

I don't think not easy to be 5+ goals in this match. 4 goals maybe happens but no for more. The possible goals in this match is max 4 goals with 2-2 or 3-1/1-3 scores.


I am sure that even if it is playing away for PSG they will win.
From experience and quality, yes PSG can win the game, but Atalanta also have good defense, in Italy they are just lose in 6 games.

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August 10, 2020, 12:32:59 PM
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So, it's confirmed at leat one player is infected.
Everyone will be tested again on Monday.


Test results just came back. Besides Angel Correa and Sime Vrsaljko everyone else tested negative today. So it looks like the match vs Leipzig can happen as planned on Thursday.

I wonder if they will test the whole team again this week. Maybe someone got infected where the incubation period wasn't over so the test was still negative today (if that is even possible, I am not an expert?). That's why we usually have the 2-weeks quarantine for everyone who had contact to a positive-tested person. But it seems in this case different rules apply?

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August 10, 2020, 01:03:24 PM
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Real were embarrassing, was Varane high? Never seen him play so badly, he gifted City both goals. I guess it shows how important Ramos is, they literally fell apart at the back without him. City have effectively got a pass into the semi finals now. Lyon finished 7th in France, I know they have some talent but they’re not great.

At the back of my mind I always have this nagging feeling something's not quite right when this type of incident happens BUT I've played football for a long time and I've been guilty of the most incredible errors of judgments I never care to remember -- which of course explains why some of us are lowlife while others are actual professionals;)

Lyon wants to be the Liverpool of 2005 I guess =p

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From experience and quality, yes PSG can win the game, but Atalanta also have good defense, in Italy they are just lose in 6 games.

in my opinion, on the other hand, the atalanta wins and not PSG
atalanta have strong defense and good attack
is third on italian championship (and it is the hardest one of world)

of course i hope win, but soccer's ball going forward Cheesy

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August 10, 2020, 03:44:50 PM
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It may be little sooner but here are my picks for remaining Champions League fun:

Juventus vs Lyon (draw. maybe 1-1 or 2-2)
Man City vs Real Madrid (easy win for Man City)
Bayern vs Chelsea (draw or win for Bayern)
Barcelona vs Napoli (win for Barcelona)

Quarter Finalists (teams I expect to win in bold):
Atalanta vs PSG
Leipzig vs Atletico
Barcelona vs Bayern
Manchester City vs Lyon


So I accurately predicted the quarter-finalists. Some amazing matches were played in Round of 16. Among quarter-finalists, we have:
2 Spanish sides
2 German sides
2 French sides
1 Italian side
and One Team from so-called the best league in the world

This shows how overrated Premier League is. For me, the quality of football is higher in La Liga while the level of competition is higher in Serie A when compared to PL.

Now talking about Quarters,

First Game: I was sure about Atalanta's win till few days ago but now story looks different. The main reason of Atalanta's overwhelming performance was the Deadly Trio of Gomez, Zapata and Ilicic. But due to some undisclosed personal reasons, Ilicic left the Atalanta squad. Him leaving Atalanta's squad is more significant than Mbappe's unavailability for PSG in my opinion. Now I think PSG can win this one. My Prediction: 3-1 in favor of PSG.

Second Game: Atletico will be without their important player Correa due to Coronavirus. He has played all CL games for AM so far this season. However, Leipzig failed to impress post-lockdown, not to forget they are without Timo Werner. In nutshell, easy win for Atletico Madrid.

Third Game: Oh my god! What a game it would be. This is seriously a final material. They are meeting too soon in competition, that's unfair. FC Bayern are clear favorites. But it's Barcelona we are talking about, it's Lionel Messi we are talking about. This one could do some serious damage to bookies as I can see odds are as high are 3.8 on Barcelona. Although they played awful post-lockdown in league but last La Liga game plus pre-quarterfinal were good performances. Other than Messi, Semedo, Lenglet, Rakitic and Frenkie De Jong gave good performances too. Especially Semedo, who made some excellent sprints. It will be 1v1 clash between him and Davies, let see who wins the war of speed. I am routing for Barcelona (more of an emotional decision than the factual) but this can happen very much.

Fourth Game: It's easy, Manchester City. Lyon were lucky to get away from Juventus. Goal advantage at home, lucky away penalty goal and sheer will in defense made them go-past Juve. But Man City are not Juventus. They are City, they are KDB, Sterling, Jesus and who not. Even Man City bench looks more cheerful than Lyon's starting XI. I expect easy win for Man City, they can't lose focus this time.



I am going big with above picks on sportsbooks. Let see how fruitful it going to be.

It has been a lucrative betting session for me. Won 13 bets, lost only 3. I really hope this winning streak continues for me in Quarters too.

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August 10, 2020, 03:44:50 PM
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This is a game that is difficult to predict because PSG vs Atalanta have encountered for the first time in the UCL quarter-finals...
both teams are very good especially Atalanta who are known to have a solid defense, There are rumors that Mbappe has recovered from injury and will be playing, but I'm not sure that will make Atalanta any trouble. I personally prefer Atalanta.

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August 10, 2020, 03:59:37 PM
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Of course, Barca vs Bayern are difficult to make a decisions for bets. Because both have lot of good quality players. Barca need more power to going to final. This is the last hope for them after failed to be champions in La Liga. About PSG vs Atalanta, I wants Atalanta win over PSG, this will be more interesting another underdog success to give a surprise.
I think it's like a final, and it should be the closing game in the champions league. My prediction is that Atlanta will have a hard time vs PSG, they need luck and hard work from all teams. No away and home games make the opportunities for both teams even more attractive, seeing the quality of PSG players is superior than atlanta. Apart from that, I am interested in the Atletico vs Leipzig match, how it is progressing, reportedly there are two Atletico players who have tested positive for Covid-19.

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August 10, 2020, 04:16:32 PM
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in my opinion, on the other hand, the atalanta wins and not PSG
atalanta have strong defense and good attack

They are finished on 3, but from goal conceded, they are still need to be careful.

Apart from that, I am interested in the Atletico vs Leipzig match, how it is progressing, reportedly there are two Atletico players who have tested positive for Covid-19.

Yeah, I read about Angel Correa and Sime Vrsaljko rumoured as Positive, but from the latest news on dailymail.co.uk, both of this players test results as negative. If this true, so no one players have corona in atletico now. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8611357/Atletico-Madrid-fear-two-players-tested-positive-coronavirus-infected-stars.html

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August 10, 2020, 04:22:49 PM
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Of course, Barca vs Bayern are difficult to make a decisions for bets. Because both have lot of good quality players. Barca need more power to going to final. This is the last hope for them after failed to be champions in La Liga. About PSG vs Atalanta, I wants Atalanta win over PSG, this will be more interesting another underdog success to give a surprise.
I think it's like a final, and it should be the closing game in the champions league. My prediction is that Atlanta will have a hard time vs PSG, they need luck and hard work from all teams. No away and home games make the opportunities for both teams even more attractive, seeing the quality of PSG players is superior than atlanta. Apart from that, I am interested in the Atletico vs Leipzig match, how it is progressing, reportedly there are two Atletico players who have tested positive for Covid-19.

Atalanta needs a big amount of luck and not just luck in this event.Psg has the better players and if we judge by the monetary value of each player it is crystal clear that Psg is the one who will pass the turn.Atalanta should be happy with their performance and the fact that they have arrived such far in the Champions League.

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August 10, 2020, 07:48:07 PM
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I think the disadvantage PSG has in that game is the lack of conditioning which we have seen as not a big problem for them. In Italy they played rest of the league while in France they cancelled the season, which is interesting when you think about the fact that France didn't had it as worse as Italy on the peak, but that was the case anyway. So, atalanta will be in peak form and will play with 100% but PSG is such a great team that even at 50% they are better team.

However, when they move further and if they beat atalanta and face another team they will have even harder and harder task to beat their opponents but also get better conditioning as well. The real risky game is Bayern vs Barcelona, I still don't know who to bet on that game, it looks like either could win the game.
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August 10, 2020, 10:55:08 PM
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Of course, Barca vs Bayern are difficult to make a decisions for bets. Because both have lot of good quality players. Barca need more power to going to final. This is the last hope for them after failed to be champions in La Liga. About PSG vs Atalanta, I wants Atalanta win over PSG, this will be more interesting another underdog success to give a surprise.
I think it's like a final, and it should be the closing game in the champions league. My prediction is that Atlanta will have a hard time vs PSG, they need luck and hard work from all teams. No away and home games make the opportunities for both teams even more attractive, seeing the quality of PSG players is superior than atlanta. Apart from that, I am interested in the Atletico vs Leipzig match, how it is progressing, reportedly there are two Atletico players who have tested positive for Covid-19.

Atalanta needs a big amount of luck and not just luck in this event.Psg has the better players and if we judge by the monetary value of each player it is crystal clear that Psg is the one who will pass the turn.Atalanta should be happy with their performance and the fact that they have arrived such far in the Champions League.

I agree with you, I like Atalanta and what they have done so far, but I don't think they will have enough composure and concentration to beat PSG. I this match their defense, weakest part of the team, will be under a lot more pressure then what they are used too. Atalanta will play offensive, only thing they know how to do, but it will cost them in this match.

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