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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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May 09, 2022, 08:12:54 AM
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The fact that Real has already secured the championship is certainly an advantage. However, I think that Liverpool has a much broader squad than Real and, above all, a much younger one, so they can cope well with that. They have already shown throughout the season that they can perform very well internationally, although they have many more games due to the English weeks than their international opponents. So I think that this fact has little influence on the outcome of the final.


Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.
In Real Madrid's last match with Atletico, it was seen that Real Madrid were very serious about facing Liverpool in the UCL final. Real Madrid fielded the B squad for this match to give the main players more rest and avoid injury. Both clubs must avoid mistakes that can cost them, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have great coaches, these two coaches can see the slightest mistakes made by opponents to score goals. Before the match, the odds are still 50:50, it's very difficult to say which team will hold the UCL title.



Real can afford such tactics (to play with B squad) because they have already secured the Spanish title.
Liverpool still have a chance to win the English title and will do everything they can to seize that chance. They also play in the English Cup finals.
The English Championship is very long and hard and I believe it affects the performances of English clubs in European competitions.
Real will have a lot more rest than Liverpool before the final, and that could also affect the final result in the Champions League final.
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May 09, 2022, 08:16:57 AM
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.
That is practically everyone's thinking, considering how Real Madrid qualified from the round of 16, quarter finals, and semi finals, they were incredibly lucky because many of us didn't think they would even get through PSG, then Chelsea, and finally Manchester City. If Madrid continues to be lucky, Liverpool will have a difficult time. Although Liverpool is a very good team in good form, the Premier League title they are chasing appears to be lost, thus they will try their hardest to win the Champions League.

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May 09, 2022, 08:33:25 AM
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.

They should have been in the finals, football is indeed a cruel sport! as you can't predict the game Ahead.
Have always wanted them to be upfront,to take it for the first time, but everything crumble before my eyes.
I don't think this can be achievable with Manchester City anymore, he should move to another league and try.


Manchester city is always seeded in every season but they are often eliminated in the blue continent competition. The defeat to Real Madrid shows that playing attacking football does not always result in an advantage where mentality is also the benchmark in every competition.and this is evident in the mentality of Real Madrid. when they fell behind towards the last minute of the game but they could turn things around and qualify for the Champions League final this season, Manchester City's defeat itself was inseparable from a little mistake by Pep Guardiola who tried to play defensively when they had won first so it was immediately responded by Carlo Ancelotti where Rodrigo became the winner for real Madrid

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May 09, 2022, 08:50:56 AM
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Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.
In Real Madrid's last match with Atletico, it was seen that Real Madrid were very serious about facing Liverpool in the UCL final. Real Madrid fielded the B squad for this match to give the main players more rest and avoid injury. Both clubs must avoid mistakes that can cost them, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have great coaches, these two coaches can see the slightest mistakes made by opponents to score goals. Before the match, the odds are still 50:50, it's very difficult to say which team will hold the UCL title.



That is what I think too,  real madrid was not ready to win that match, if they were so desperate in winning they wouldn't had allowed Atletico Madrid to win, they are reserving their key players for their next game. Real Madrid have much points compare to other laliga teams, they know if they know if Atletico win it won't affect them.
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May 09, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.
That is practically everyone's thinking, considering how Real Madrid qualified from the round of 16, quarter finals, and semi finals, they were incredibly lucky because many of us didn't think they would even get through PSG, then Chelsea, and finally Manchester City. If Madrid continues to be lucky, Liverpool will have a difficult time. Although Liverpool is a very good team in good form, the Premier League title they are chasing appears to be lost, thus they will try their hardest to win the Champions League.
3 times beating a strong team, it's not luck but that's the mentality of Real Madrid, they fought until the last minute. Real Madrid is a team with very high mentality and confidence when competing on the European stage, so it will be very difficult for other teams to beat them.
but the final against Liverpool would be ideal because Liverpool also have a high mentality on the European stage. these two teams are teams that often win the UCL, Real Madrid with 13 UCL trophies while Liverpool with 6 UCL trophies.
The final match will be very tight, there is a revenge mission from Liverpool, which Real Madrid defeated a few years ago in the UCL final.

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May 09, 2022, 08:53:27 AM
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Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.
In Real Madrid's last match with Atletico, it was seen that Real Madrid were very serious about facing Liverpool in the UCL final. Real Madrid fielded the B squad for this match to give the main players more rest and avoid injury. Both clubs must avoid mistakes that can cost them, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have great coaches, these two coaches can see the slightest mistakes made by opponents to score goals. Before the match, the odds are still 50:50, it's very difficult to say which team will hold the UCL title.



Liverpool's match schedule is more crowded, which is 4 matches before facing Madrid in the Champions League final. Meanwhile, Real Madrid have 3 matches before facing Liverpool in the Champions League final.

but the difference is only 1 game so I don't think it will have much effect. so I still agree it's still 50:50 to predict who will win in the final.

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May 09, 2022, 08:54:06 AM
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After City 0-1, they were far from serious in my opinion and paid the price. What did they miss, far from being serious, in the minutes 80s and later. They missed the positions where they could easily scored if they were smarter. But they could not take into account that the opposite team was Real Madrid. No team in history has ever shown its "winner" spirit to its rivals as much as Real did this season. This spirit that permeates all the players, the technical team and the fans is truly incredible. It was an incredibly enjoyable game to watch. Real Madrid showed us once again that it is a Champions League team.
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May 09, 2022, 10:39:41 AM
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Liverpool's match schedule is more crowded, which is 4 matches before facing Madrid in the Champions League final. Meanwhile, Real Madrid have 3 matches before facing Liverpool in the Champions League final.

but the difference is only 1 game so I don't think it will have much effect. so I still agree it's still 50:50 to predict who will win in the final.
Liverpool stumbled in the last Premier League game, playing at Anfield Liverpool were forced to share points with Tottenham. Before competing in the Champions League final, Liverpool will face Chelsea in the FA Cup final. A busy schedule makes Jurgen Klopp have to make rotations in several matches, especially for the FA Cup final, Klopp had to field the first team because Chelsea are a tough team. Real Madrid is not under the slightest pressure ahead of the Champions League final, let alone the La Liga title has been secured.

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May 09, 2022, 10:39:59 AM
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.

I think, Real Madrid got the victory by luck in the semi final, because Manchester city defeated Real Madrid in the first leg with 2-0 but Real Madrid defeated them in the second leg that made them to qualified for UEFA Europa champion league final. What happened to manchester city in the semi final will not happen to Liverpool in final because Liverpool has defeated Real Madrid before in this tournament which will give them more confidence to play well to achieve victory . I think Liverpool coach will not allow Real Madrid to defeat Liverpool than to use all their tactics to embrace victory at the end of the match.

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May 09, 2022, 10:44:05 AM
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After City 0-1, they were far from serious in my opinion and paid the price. What did they miss, far from being serious, in the minutes 80s and later. They missed the positions where they could easily scored if they were smarter. But they could not take into account that the opposite team was Real Madrid. No team in history has ever shown its "winner" spirit to its rivals as much as Real did this season. This spirit that permeates all the players, the technical team and the fans is truly incredible. It was an incredibly enjoyable game to watch. Real Madrid showed us once again that it is a Champions League team.

Manchester City thought that the job is over and they did not realize Real Madrid has been doing this for or last few games in a row and even though they are a better team than the opponents that Real Madrid have faced previously they can also be caught out by surprise.

and that has certainly cost them the match and a chance of being in the finals of the Champions League. But to be honest it will be really hard to plan then because even I also thought that Real Madrid did not have any chance in that match but probably an argument can be made that they are professionals and they should have played a lot more professionally instead of just trying to waste time.

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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.

I think, Real Madrid got the victory by luck in the semi final, because Manchester city defeated Real Madrid in the first leg with 2-0 but Real Madrid defeated them in the second leg that made them to qualified for UEFA Europa champion league final. What happened to manchester city in the semi final will not happen to Liverpool in final because Liverpool has defeated Real Madrid before in this tournament which will give them more confidence to play well to achieve victory . I think Liverpool coach will not allow Real Madrid to defeat Liverpool than to use all their tactics to embrace victory at the end of the match.

Real Madrid did not get any victory by chance, the thing is that immediately Manchester city score the goal and all they hope was they have defeated real Madrid, because the play well and locked the movement of benzema and with that mentality all their hope is that they have win the match, real Madrid during the changes information is been passed by their coach to change method of play and it worked out for them within 80 minutes remaining, is their plan that make real Madrid to win Manchester united

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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.
I think, Real Madrid got the victory by luck in the semi final, because Manchester city defeated Real Madrid in the first leg with 2-0 but Real Madrid defeated them in the second leg that made them to qualified for UEFA Europa champion league final. What happened to manchester city in the semi final will not happen to Liverpool in final because Liverpool has defeated Real Madrid before in this tournament which will give them more confidence to play well to achieve victory . I think Liverpool coach will not allow Real Madrid to defeat Liverpool than to use all their tactics to embrace victory at the end of the match.

If I'm not mistaken, Manchester City won the first leg 4-3. And in the second leg Real Madrid won 3-1. However, in the second leg, Real Madrid scored 3 goals after 90 minutes. So we can say that Real Madrid is very lucky. Real Madrid may be lucky, but they have a very strong and experienced squad. And so I hope the Liverpool vs Real Madrid final will be very competitive and enjoyable.

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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.
I think, Real Madrid got the victory by luck in the semi final, because Manchester city defeated Real Madrid in the first leg with 2-0 but Real Madrid defeated them in the second leg that made them to qualified for UEFA Europa champion league final. What happened to manchester city in the semi final will not happen to Liverpool in final because Liverpool has defeated Real Madrid before in this tournament which will give them more confidence to play well to achieve victory . I think Liverpool coach will not allow Real Madrid to defeat Liverpool than to use all their tactics to embrace victory at the end of the match.

If I'm not mistaken, Manchester City won the first leg 4-3. And in the second leg Real Madrid won 3-1. However, in the second leg, Real Madrid scored 3 goals after 90 minutes. So we can say that Real Madrid is very lucky. Real Madrid may be lucky, but they have a very strong and experienced squad. And so I hope the Liverpool vs Real Madrid final will be very competitive and enjoyable.
I think so too, but Real Madrid worked hard to get that luck. They were so calm after trailing two goals on aggregate in the second half. Finally they were able to break the deadlock in the final minutes, even 2 minutes later they again succeeded in creating a goal that made the aggregate a draw. I think Manchester City also lost concentration so the goals from Real Madrid were so quick.

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May 09, 2022, 11:25:39 AM
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I think so too, but Real Madrid worked hard to get that luck. They were so calm after trailing two goals on aggregate in the second half. Finally they were able to break the deadlock in the final minutes, even 2 minutes later they again succeeded in creating a goal that made the aggregate a draw. I think Manchester City also lost concentration so the goals from Real Madrid were so quick.
what made everyone astonished was because of the goal so quickly from Madrid. maybe, Man City already thought they would get a win and qualify for the final. that's what makes the focus of Man City decrease. and Madrid benefits from it all. 3 quick goals that make Man City have to swallow the bitter reality.

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May 09, 2022, 11:34:09 AM
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Liverpool's match schedule is more crowded, which is 4 matches before facing Madrid in the Champions League final. Meanwhile, Real Madrid have 3 matches before facing Liverpool in the Champions League final.

but the difference is only 1 game so I don't think it will have much effect. so I still agree it's still 50:50 to predict who will win in the final.
Liverpool stumbled in the last Premier League game, playing at Anfield Liverpool were forced to share points with Tottenham. Before competing in the Champions League final, Liverpool will face Chelsea in the FA Cup final. A busy schedule makes Jurgen Klopp have to make rotations in several matches, especially for the FA Cup final, Klopp had to field the first team because Chelsea are a tough team. Real Madrid is not under the slightest pressure ahead of the Champions League final, let alone the La Liga title has been secured.

Well, busy schedule for Liverpool, but guys are prepared for that, they are professionals! And I guess they are full of power before the final games, they played for that the entire season, so they are motivated to win all the titles they can! I give a slight advantage to Liverpool in the final game, we all thought that Real will drop out much sooner, but they found a way to qualify each time and now they are in the final game! Let's not forget Real lost all the first games and they won in the second legs... in the final game there's no second game, so maybe it's time for Real to fall!

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Well, busy schedule for Liverpool, but guys are prepared for that, they are professionals! And I guess they are full of power before the final games, they played for that the entire season, so they are motivated to win all the titles they can! I give a slight advantage to Liverpool in the final game, we all thought that Real will drop out much sooner, but they found a way to qualify each time and now they are in the final game! Let's not forget Real lost all the first games and they won in the second legs... in the final game there's no second game, so maybe it's time for Real to fall!
When I review Real Madrid's record for finals in the Champions League, I am very surprised that they never lose and manage to win titles every time they reach the final. Granted that's not always the case because the seasons keep changing with different teams and coaches, so there's hope for Liverpool to try to win it.

I would prefer if Liverpool managed to win the Champions League title this season against Real Madrid, but of course we know very well that Real Madrid's capacity and ability and winning mentality to beat opponents deserves appreciation.
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May 09, 2022, 11:59:15 AM
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I think that Real Madrid has a hard time winning against English teams.They win against English teams in two games,but will they be able to win in only one match.
They've won against Chelsea in the first game,but at "Santiago Bernabeu",Chelsea was leading 3-0 10 minutes before the end and Real was pretty close to getting kicked out of the tournament.
Manchester City destroyed Real at Etihad stadium,but they missed a lot of goal opportunities,so Real Madrid survived.Real Madrid won't have a second chance against Liverpool.The winner will be decided in 90 minutes(or maybe 120 minutes).The Liverpool attack players are unstoppable.
If the Liverpool defenders manage to block Benzema,Vinicius and the "golden goose" Rogrigo,Real Madrid simply won't be able to score a goal.

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May 09, 2022, 12:07:21 PM
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By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.
I just heard this information from you, if indeed they leave the stadium and are not allowed to enter again this is very disappointing. They shouldn't need to be barred from re-entry, as all the fans will cheer on the team again. However, I also don't agree with the attitude of the Real Madrid fans who didn't want to stay until the end of the game. Whereas loyal fans must be able to accept victory and defeat gracefully. Do not let us claim to be a team when we win, but do not want to give encouragement when destruction occurs.

But from a safety point of view, this is very logical. In the history of my country, there were cases when the fans went out, but the team scored a goal and they tried to return to celebrate/stay in the game where the team chances appeared, and when these two streams collided, there was a crush where people died. I believe that if a person has made a conscious decision to leave the stadium, then he cannot return.

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May 09, 2022, 12:36:27 PM
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I think that Real Madrid has a hard time winning against English teams.They win against English teams in two games,but will they be able to win in only one match.
They've won against Chelsea in the first game,but at "Santiago Bernabeu",Chelsea was leading 3-0 10 minutes before the end and Real was pretty close to getting kicked out of the tournament.
Manchester City destroyed Real at Etihad stadium,but they missed a lot of goal opportunities,so Real Madrid survived.Real Madrid won't have a second chance against Liverpool.The winner will be decided in 90 minutes(or maybe 120 minutes).The Liverpool attack players are unstoppable.
If the Liverpool defenders manage to block Benzema,Vinicius and the "golden goose" Rogrigo,Real Madrid simply won't be able to score a goal.

Regardless of the club's mentality, if you look at Real Madrid journey, they can qualify for the final because of luck. Against PSG and Manchester City, Real Madrid tends to be due to the luck factor. At PSG, they lost to a crushing defeat that meant they would not qualify, but in the 2nd leg at the Santiago Bernabeu, the result was beyond the reach of many. Against Liverpool in the final will certainly be the most awaited match.

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May 09, 2022, 12:41:00 PM
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.
That is practically everyone's thinking, considering how Real Madrid qualified from the round of 16, quarter finals, and semi finals, they were incredibly lucky because many of us didn't think they would even get through PSG, then Chelsea, and finally Manchester City. If Madrid continues to be lucky, Liverpool will have a difficult time. Although Liverpool is a very good team in good form, the Premier League title they are chasing appears to be lost, thus they will try their hardest to win the Champions League.
3 times beating a strong team, it's not luck but that's the mentality of Real Madrid, they fought until the last minute. Real Madrid is a team with very high mentality and confidence when competing on the European stage, so it will be very difficult for other teams to beat them.
but the final against Liverpool would be ideal because Liverpool also have a high mentality on the European stage. these two teams are teams that often win the UCL, Real Madrid with 13 UCL trophies while Liverpool with 6 UCL trophies.
The final match will be very tight, there is a revenge mission from Liverpool, which Real Madrid defeated a few years ago in the UCL final.

I really don't agree that Real Madrid was just lucky and won almost all the matches against strong teams in the Champions League just because of being lucky. 

I believe they have played really well and I really saw good winning spirit from Real nothing as their tongue in the match till the end and always came out with something from all the matches in the Champions League.
Did they need a little bit of luck?
yes of course but it was it all about luck no I don't agree.

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