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May 08, 2022, 08:21:19 PM
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I was watching the match again and noticed how the stadium (with the score 1-1) began to cheer when the referee announced that 6 minutes had been added. It seems that everyone was sure that Real Madrid could score one more goal, and in the end they did. As for extra time, everyone knew that Real Madrid would win, I'm sure even the City players understood this.
Not a few spectators who had left the stadium then ran to hear the equalizing goal and immediately it was like you said. Madrid fans believe that when they get a moment of added time, it means Madrid will win. It's extraordinary, watching the match like a world final and it was almost felt by us who could only watch it from the television screen. Feeling the immense power that was building within the Real Madrid players was something terrible for Manchester City at that time.

By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.

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May 08, 2022, 08:30:03 PM
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I was watching the match again and noticed how the stadium (with the score 1-1) began to cheer when the referee announced that 6 minutes had been added. It seems that everyone was sure that Real Madrid could score one more goal, and in the end they did. As for extra time, everyone knew that Real Madrid would win, I'm sure even the City players understood this.
Not a few spectators who had left the stadium then ran to hear the equalizing goal and immediately it was like you said. Madrid fans believe that when they get a moment of added time, it means Madrid will win. It's extraordinary, watching the match like a world final and it was almost felt by us who could only watch it from the television screen. Feeling the immense power that was building within the Real Madrid players was something terrible for Manchester City at that time.

By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.
I just heard this information from you, if indeed they leave the stadium and are not allowed to enter again this is very disappointing. They shouldn't need to be barred from re-entry, as all the fans will cheer on the team again. However, I also don't agree with the attitude of the Real Madrid fans who didn't want to stay until the end of the game. Whereas loyal fans must be able to accept victory and defeat gracefully. Do not let us claim to be a team when we win, but do not want to give encouragement when destruction occurs.

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May 08, 2022, 08:54:51 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.
Pep Guardiola is an awesome manager but it's crazy how a manager of his caliber will have lost 6 semifinals in the champion's league. It’s even more tragic because of the quality of his teams and the monies he spent in transfer window. Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.

It is a pity that Pep Guardiola since becoming Man City coach in 2016 has still failed to bring Man City to the Champions League trophy.
Even though Guardiola has spent a lot of money to buy players, even Man City spent 117 million euros just to sign Jack Grealish who until now
has not been able to contribute to Man City. Man City's best achievement in the Champions League competition during Guardiola's time as manager
was reaching the final in 2021. Guardiola also actually hasn't won the Champions League for a long time, the last time he won the Champions League
trophy was eleven years ago. When Guardiola was still Barcelona manager.
 
Hopefully next year Guardiola will succeed in bringing Man City to win the Champions League trophy. Because according to rumors Sheikh Mansour as
the owner of Man City still really hopes that Guardiola can bring Man City to win the Champions League trophy. Therefore Sheikh Mansour is willing
to give 300 million pounds for Guardiola this summer to buy several players, to strengthen the Man City squad. We'll see if it's true this summer
Guardiola will bring in some new players and Guardiola can give the Champions League trophy next year. If Guardiola still fails to give the Champions
League trophy next season, there is a possibility that Guardiola will leave Man City.

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May 08, 2022, 09:03:01 PM
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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.

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May 08, 2022, 09:36:09 PM
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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.
Manchester City game under Pep Guardiola is so good that teams had to consistently learn how to stop losing to City. I think he might still win the champion's league if Manchester City is patient with him for another two to three years. They say former Manchester City player, Yaya Toure's curse is the problem, nevertheless Pep is the only manager with the highest loss in the semifinals stage.
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May 08, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
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Manchester City only got tested with two strong opponents - Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid and their deficiencies were exposed. They scaled through Atletico but Real Madrid was just too balanced mentally and physically for them to go pass them. I think with the amount of money Pep Guardiola has spent, I don’t see how people can still label him as the greatest manager of all time. He keeps losing at the UEFA Champion's League with amazing and expensive world class players.
Pep Guardiola is not the best coach in the world, this final match will prove who is the best coach in the world this season whether it's Klopp or Ancelotti. but my prediction is that the team that will come out victorious in this final is Liverpool, they really look dominant and good in every match they live. Klopp will definitely not make Liverpool get a draw or lose like when they faced Tottenham yesterday.

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May 08, 2022, 11:32:38 PM
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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.
If only he stays at barcelona or bayern munich , i just can't imagine how many champions league title he will have now. or else moving to other potential club like chelsea maybe instead manchester city to build his own legacy just like sir alex ferguson , h ejust landed at the wrong club.

while sir alex ferguson landed at the correct club at the right time, perfect match and he is a living legend as a manager with tons of achievements.

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May 08, 2022, 11:57:16 PM
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I was watching the match again and noticed how the stadium (with the score 1-1) began to cheer when the referee announced that 6 minutes had been added. It seems that everyone was sure that Real Madrid could score one more goal, and in the end they did. As for extra time, everyone knew that Real Madrid would win, I'm sure even the City players understood this.
Not a few spectators who had left the stadium then ran to hear the equalizing goal and immediately it was like you said. Madrid fans believe that when they get a moment of added time, it means Madrid will win. It's extraordinary, watching the match like a world final and it was almost felt by us who could only watch it from the television screen. Feeling the immense power that was building within the Real Madrid players was something terrible for Manchester City at that time.

By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.

Depends on which team's fans. If it's Real Madrid fans then yes xD. If it's Manchester City fans then they're more likely to be glad they didn't see that defeat with their own eyes, can you imagine watching that on live? The reaction would clearly be more disappointing than finding out after the fact, although it's no less shocking Grin

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May 09, 2022, 12:03:28 AM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history!
You must be a Pep fan for you to say that. There are more managers who have a better record than him in Champions League title alone. Remember also Zidane's three consecutive titles with Real Madrid? That's hard to beat but I still don't consider him best in history.

He'll probably win just one title this season so "best right now" is also questionable. I would rather give that to Ancelotti.

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Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively.
He won three with City but not consecutively. Liverpool won in 2020.
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May 09, 2022, 12:09:52 AM
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You're saying all the positive sides of Real Madrid but Liverpool will play for the trophy also. I think we will be able to enjoy a memorable match against Real Madrid and Liverpool. Salah, Mane and overall whole team will try to win the trophy against Real Madrid.
Of course it's an interesting finale. If villareal is qualified then it looks boring, then madrid is like playing in La Liga. It's hard to guess the final result of this game, but my hope is that Madrid will bring the UCL Cup to the Bernabeu. But I'm a little bit worried that some games in the first leg of Madrid always end up losing. Tomorrow it looks like a one-off final, so I hope they will play with all their might for that final.
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May 09, 2022, 12:45:05 AM
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Do you think? I think pep didn't make a mistake and was just unlucky. In the 80th minute you play defensively against Real when you have the lead. They also played well, but Real were just as good and in the end they had more luck.
Is really hard to speculate what happened in the 2nd leg of the UCL semi finals between Real Madrid vs Manchester City. I mean, no one would have believed the game wasn't won already in favour of Manchester City. At least, if not winning the game in particular, thye had the aggregate to serve as there qualifier in the event of a draw. Surprisingly, the spirit of Real Madrid in Rodrygo produced the needed 2 goals to push for an extra time and K. Benzema gave them the lead with a perfectly delivered penalty. I dontbknow what any normal coach could have done to prevent this but I think, some of the errors was in the Pep Guardiola's substitution. He so much wanted to be in control of the game and mean while, what I think would have been the best option was to let the boys play. You could see Carlo Ancelotti was even while he was loosing. Pep needs some of that calmness and not extend his tensions to the pitch.
If Manchester City lost and did not reach the Champions League final, it means that Pep Guardiola made mistakes in his actions and it is useless to argue with this. Guardiola's desire to have constant control over the game and the players is the signature style of the coach, thanks to which he has achieved the successes he has already achieved and this is part of his nature and I am not sure that he is able to change this without prejudice to his activities, so let's take it for granted. It cannot be denied that Guardiola's strategy almost led to success, but still the factor of chance and the nature of Real Madrid did not lead to the necessary result. Modern Manchester City is very strong at a distance, but can get lost when it comes to one match, where everything is decided. This is the style of the team and I'm not sure that it can be fixed without losing in another.
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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.

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The way Manchester City was flushed out of the champion league is so baffling with real Madrid pattern of playing Liverpool is going to fine it hard to win them in the finals, real Madrid fat luck on their side in each game.

They should have been in the finals, football is indeed a cruel sport! as you can't predict the game Ahead.
Have always wanted them to be upfront,to take it for the first time, but everything crumble before my eyes.
I don't think this can be achievable with Manchester City anymore, he should move to another league and try.

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May 09, 2022, 12:58:10 AM
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You're saying all the positive sides of Real Madrid but Liverpool will play for the trophy also. I think we will be able to enjoy a memorable match against Real Madrid and Liverpool. Salah, Mane and overall whole team will try to win the trophy against Real Madrid.
Of course it's an interesting finale. If villareal is qualified then it looks boring, then madrid is like playing in La Liga. It's hard to guess the final result of this game, but my hope is that Madrid will bring the UCL Cup to the Bernabeu. But I'm a little bit worried that some games in the first leg of Madrid always end up losing. Tomorrow it looks like a one-off final, so I hope they will play with all their might for that final.
Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.

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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.
Manchester City as team spent much money every window transfer and Pep Guardiola trough six years with Manchester City never success get trophy, last year as the best season for Pep Guardiola on champion league because success make Manchester City lead until to final before losing by Chelsea. Nowadays Manchester City failed on semifinal and I think still not have chance with Manchester City with champion league trophy trough Pep Guardiola still as manager there, he has failed before with Bayern Munich and success with Barcelona team only giving champion league trophy.

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Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.

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Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.
In Real Madrid's last match with Atletico, it was seen that Real Madrid were very serious about facing Liverpool in the UCL final. Real Madrid fielded the B squad for this match to give the main players more rest and avoid injury. Both clubs must avoid mistakes that can cost them, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have great coaches, these two coaches can see the slightest mistakes made by opponents to score goals. Before the match, the odds are still 50:50, it's very difficult to say which team will hold the UCL title.


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May 09, 2022, 07:26:01 AM
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Yes Real Madrid can't do things like in the previous match, now the match is only played once to determine who will be the champion. But I think Real Madrid are aware of that, and will minimize the mistakes that led to their defeat in the first leg. What I like about this team is how their seniors motivate their young players, and they will do it again.
Not only do they have to minimize mistakes, but this time Real Madrid are demanded not to make mistakes because Liverpool as we know their game is fast and always smart to find gaps in their opponents. and when there is a gap then Liverpool are very good at taking advantage of the existing gap.

But what I admire about Real Madrid is that they are mentally strong even until the last minute. and the emotional bond between excellent (junior-senior) players.
In Real Madrid's last match with Atletico, it was seen that Real Madrid were very serious about facing Liverpool in the UCL final. Real Madrid fielded the B squad for this match to give the main players more rest and avoid injury. Both clubs must avoid mistakes that can cost them, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have great coaches, these two coaches can see the slightest mistakes made by opponents to score goals. Before the match, the odds are still 50:50, it's very difficult to say which team will hold the UCL title.



Real can afford such tactics (to play with B squad) because they have already secured the Spanish title.
Liverpool still have a chance to win the English title and will do everything they can to seize that chance. They also play in the English Cup finals.
The English Championship is very long and hard and I believe it affects the performances of English clubs in European competitions.
Real will have a lot more rest than Liverpool before the final, and that could also affect the final result in the Champions League final.

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In terms of experience, it is clear that Real Madrid has no doubt in this Champions League, they are recorded as the team that has won the most trophies here with 13 trophies. And now they are targeting to add to their collection and win the title for the 14th time. It becomes more motivation for Real Madrid players to perform optimally in order to realize their wishes. However, it is true that the two teams are almost equal in terms of strength, but we are waiting to see who will prove their superiority in this match.
If I want to know from the bottom of your heart, who will you choose between Real Madrid and Liverpool in the final match? since both of them look equal in strength position in this season then everyone who wants to bet will definitely choose one of them for this season.
I myself would be very happy if Real Madrid could add to their collection of Champions League winners for the 14th time this season, but I will not regret it if Liverpool won the Champions League this season.

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Real can afford such tactics (to play with B squad) because they have already secured the Spanish title.
Liverpool still have a chance to win the English title and will do everything they can to seize that chance. They also play in the English Cup finals.
The English Championship is very long and hard and I believe it affects the performances of English clubs in European competitions.
Real will have a lot more rest than Liverpool before the final, and that could also affect the final result in the Champions League final.

I also see Real Madrid as the most likely winner
would I bet on it? never
in any case he has already proved to be dangerous until the last second and this, for the morale of the players, counts a lot
they will fight like beasts to the last

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