⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[bekti3]

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris, perhaps his departure from Barcelona is inseparable from the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club so that they can no longer afford to pay super expensive salaries.requested by Lionel Messi himself so that Barcelona decided to release him to PSG in the midst of Barcelona's own financial crisis

He can still contribute but in terms of performance this has obviously gone downhill especially to be at PSG at the moment.
His performance has decreased considerably and that is a fact because the age factor is also decisive in this.
On the other hand, the players at PSG are also almost all players who have famous names so it is difficult to be conspicuous.

[Rockstarguy]

Although I was among those who doubted Real Madrid in the knockout stages but honestly, those doubts disappeared when Real Madrid got to the final round. Because for me, Real Madrid's journey or process in the knockout stages is not just about luck and it's not easy, because if I consider no team can have that kind of luck. Just imagine, when Real Madrid had to get rid of big teams that were even at their best, but Real Madrid always got a comeback in the second leg. Therefore, if I compare it with Liverpool's journey or process in the knockout stages, Real Madrid is still the favorite in the final. But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

That has been what many have been saying concerning about Real Madrid that they are lucky till they won the champions league,  Real Madrid has always have the mindset to win every of their and they work towards that . Before Real Madrid won the champions league  , Real Madrid was look in a way that it was impossible to win against Liverpool. Real Madrid team played wonderful game this season,  they  knew they can win their games.

[1kodumtek7]

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

I also don't know why people underestimate Real Madrid's amazing success last season. It may not be seen as true that their luck helped them also but this wasn't the thing all about them in the end. They deserved to eliminate every single one of their opponents until achieving the title. They eliminated very big teams consecutively too. I don't think that any team can do this very difficult job only thanks to their luck. Real Madrid fought really hard and particularly their offensive performance helped them do this.

[dataispower]

I absolutely agree with the opinions about Messi that his era has ended. Barcelona were really struggling already while he was playing there. I mean the last year he played for them for example. Messi was trying to take full responsibility for carrying the team but it wasn't helping them still. His performance was still great then though but he hasn't been like shining at PSG so far. He had serious problems on adapting to them in the first times but he is better these days. He is still not like the old Messi but it is normal as he is aging also.

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris, perhaps his departure from Barcelona is inseparable from the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club so that they can no longer afford to pay super expensive salaries.requested by Lionel Messi himself so that Barcelona decided to release him to PSG amid Barcelona's financial crisis

Looking at the current performance of Messi since joining PSG, I think he is still very strong and hopefully, he can still play up to 2 seasons or more but that's if he is not injured or affected due to old age. Messi's performance in PSG can not be compared with that of his national team because he plays a free role in the national team and no player is dragging balls or affecting his balls unlike in Paris where Neymar and Mbappe will always want to perform better or most times being in control of the ball in order to show their worth but I believe Messi will keep playing good football in till 4years to come.

[Sterbens]

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

I also don't know why people underestimate Real Madrid's amazing success last season. It may not be seen as true that their luck helped them also but this wasn't the thing all about them in the end. They deserved to eliminate every single one of their opponents until achieving the title. They eliminated very big teams consecutively too. I don't think that any team can do this very difficult job only thanks to their luck. Real Madrid fought really hard and particularly their offensive performance helped them do this.

I think people have only glimpsed the progress Real Madrid is making. Therefore, they do not really know how successful Real Madrid won 14 Champions League trophies and was crowned the king of Europe until the end of this season. If they were only talking about luck then that would not be true at all. Real Madrid's achievements are a benchmark for how capable Real Madrid is.

[bitzizzix]

Although I was among those who doubted Real Madrid in the knockout stages but honestly, those doubts disappeared when Real Madrid got to the final round. Because for me, Real Madrid's journey or process in the knockout stages is not just about luck and it's not easy, because if I consider no team can have that kind of luck. Just imagine, when Real Madrid had to get rid of big teams that were even at their best, but Real Madrid always got a comeback in the second leg. Therefore, if I compare it with Liverpool's journey or process in the knockout stages, Real Madrid is still the favorite in the final. But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

That has been what many have been saying concerning about Real Madrid that they are lucky till they won the champions league,  Real Madrid has always have the mindset to win every of their and they work towards that . Before Real Madrid won the champions league  , Real Madrid was look in a way that it was impossible to win against Liverpool. Real Madrid team played wonderful game this season,  they  knew they can win their games.

It's all because of the experience and mentality that Real Madrid is very familiar with in every competition, especially in the UCL. If you can judge Real Madrid's performance this season, they only play waiting, focus on defending and then make a deadly counter-attack.
and those tactics and strategies make Real Madrid look not a scary team this season, but Real Madrid is able to judge the opponent's game that allows him to beat him because of his tactics.
Real Madrid can beat the big teams because he knows what to do, all opponents of Real Madrid will have an attacking ambition to score goals and Real Madrid is strengthening defense and just waiting for the momentum. and for next season maybe they will change their game to be more attacking or something.

[naira]

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

[ReiMomo]

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

I also don't know why people underestimate Real Madrid's amazing success last season. It may not be seen as true that their luck helped them also but this wasn't the thing all about them in the end. They deserved to eliminate every single one of their opponents until achieving the title. They eliminated very big teams consecutively too. I don't think that any team can do this very difficult job only thanks to their luck. Real Madrid fought really hard and particularly their offensive performance helped them do this.

I think people have only glimpsed the progress Real Madrid is making. Therefore, they do not really know how successful Real Madrid won 14 Champions League trophies and was crowned the king of Europe until the end of this season. If they were only talking about luck then that would not be true at all. Real Madrid's achievements are a benchmark for how capable Real Madrid is.

Yah Real Madrid lifted up its 14th Champions league trophy and yes they deserve it. Just watched the recap of the match since could not watch it on time last May 29th. How many saves from Real Madrid goal keeper and that is the other reason for winning the final. Yes expected Liverpool in the 1st half to make goals as they had plenty of chances. They were really on fire to be frank but yes could not. The goal from Vini Jr was really awesome. His lively presence made it happen. Again Real Madrid proved themselves.

[sayaya17]

Although I was among those who doubted Real Madrid in the knockout stages but honestly, those doubts disappeared when Real Madrid got to the final round. Because for me, Real Madrid's journey or process in the knockout stages is not just about luck and it's not easy, because if I consider no team can have that kind of luck. Just imagine, when Real Madrid had to get rid of big teams that were even at their best, but Real Madrid always got a comeback in the second leg. Therefore, if I compare it with Liverpool's journey or process in the knockout stages, Real Madrid is still the favorite in the final. But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

"Real Madrid is just lucky" That's the word I've always heard, from the knock-out stage to the final. Real Madrid was lucky to beat PSG in the last 16, Real Madrid was lucky to beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and so on. Lol
I couldn't believe they were saying that by luck, until Real Madrid completely silenced those who doubted them.

That has been what many have been saying concerning about Real Madrid that they are lucky till they won the champions league,  Real Madrid has always have the mindset to win every of their and they work towards that . Before Real Madrid won the champions league  , Real Madrid was look in a way that it was impossible to win against Liverpool. Real Madrid team played wonderful game this season,  they  knew they can win their games.

Some people think Real Madrid won the Champions League trophy because of luck, and think Liverpool deserved to win. In fact,
Real Madrid are  more mentally prepared to face the final. It must be admitted that Real Madrid's strength is that they have a winning
mentality. Even Real Madrid is strengthened by players who have won the Champions League trophy several times before, so Real Madrid
players have a winning mentality. No wonder before beating Liverpool in the final, Real Madrid previously managed to beat several strong teams.
So for me Real Madrid is much more deserving of winning the Champions League trophy. So it is not surprising that Real Madrid still relies
on several players who are over 30 years old, that's because Real Madrid realizes the importance of experienced players to have a winning mentality.

[riso2015]

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

No club has come close to achieving the Real Madrid Champions League trophy, the 14 Champions League trophies that have been won by Real Madrid is a very extraordinary achievement, maybe next season Real Madrid will not make too many changes, the front line is still entrusted to the team. Banzema and Vinicius, because of the failure to land mbappe to Real Madrid, the position of the front lines has not changed, for now Real Madrid has only got one new ammunition in defense, Rudiger has made an agreement with Real Madrid and next season Rudiger will officially defend Real Madrid. .

[Sterbens]

No club has come close to achieving the Real Madrid Champions League trophy, the 14 Champions League trophies that have been won by Real Madrid is a very extraordinary achievement, maybe next season Real Madrid will not make too many changes, the front line is still entrusted to the team.

I still think that Real Madrid has an equal chance. Although competition is getting tougher from various clubs that add new squads, Real Madrid is also almost considered to have no potential before entering the semifinals. However, Madrid went through all the obstacles that were tough enough to have to fight a club as big as PSG which was claimed to be the favorite club because it was filled with star players. In fact, there will be no effect if Madrid faces them. For next season, Madrid can still win the trophy again.

[Silberman]

But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

I was one of Liverpool's favorites in the final. but unfortunately, Liverpool lost the moment of fighting for the most prestigious trophy in mainland Europe.
Madrid looked overwhelmed when they had to lose several times in the first leg against a strong team. but Madrid showed a winning mentality with a comeback that took Madrid to the final. I believe it's not luck. Madrid does have the quality of the game to win.
in a final featuring only 1 leg, I hope Madrid is not that strong. vinicius became a player who buried Liverpool's hopes.

What happens is that we concentrate a lot on the physical aspects of the sport since this is easily visible, however the mental aspect is even more important, there are players which undoubtedly have great skills and talent, however when you put them in a situation of high pressure they are unable to endure it and they end up failing, while there are others which instead get even better during those difficult moments, Real Madrid showed the mentality of a champion by always being able to overcome the difficult circumstances they were in and eventually winning the championship.

[Magicalking]

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

No club has come close to achieving the Real Madrid Champions League trophy, the 14 Champions League trophies that have been won by Real Madrid is a very extraordinary achievement, maybe next season Real Madrid will not make too many changes, the front line is still entrusted to the team. Banzema and Vinicius, because of the failure to land mbappe to Real Madrid, the position of the front lines has not changed, for now Real Madrid has only got one new ammunition in defense, Rudiger has made an agreement with Real Madrid and next season Rudiger will officially defend Real Madrid. .

Real Madrid efforts paid off last season in the champions league, adding one more to the already 13 champions league trophies, although facing the toughest teams like PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool and still won the league is extremely remarkable. I don't think their front line is bad, infact the current front line would still be productive to them next season if the players maintain form. I also think Rudiger would make the team more fearsome

[Pokapoka124]

But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

I was one of Liverpool's favorites in the final. but unfortunately, Liverpool lost the moment of fighting for the most prestigious trophy in mainland Europe.
Madrid looked overwhelmed when they had to lose several times in the first leg against a strong team. but Madrid showed a winning mentality with a comeback that took Madrid to the final. I believe it's not luck. Madrid does have the quality of the game to win.
in a final featuring only 1 leg, I hope Madrid is not that strong. vinicius became a player who buried Liverpool's hopes.

No liverpool fans was happy following their defeat in the the champions league final, but that's football, looking at the roll Liverpool were on at the time,one would picked liverpool to be the champion. Liverpool's game wasn't bad they actually had many chances that should have resulted to goals but they couldn't place them.

[KTChampions]

United for Ronaldo is not just another club, so I think he will stay at United for the rest of his "big" career. In the Champions League, Ronaldo already has everything you can dream of and I don’t think that missing one season will be critical for him, and yes, I understand that maybe Ronaldo will no longer appear in the Champions League due to age, but such is life. Everything ever ends.

Yes, that is why he preferred to choose Man United at that time over other big clubs even in the late time. He considers that Man United is like his home where he comes and he goes home again until the end of his career, probably it will be like this.
But we don't know if something changes the situation and Ronaldo cannot play anymore in United, although this possibility is very small.
Actually, his performance is still very good, but at best he must also be supported by a solid team. If not, maybe his great career will decline at Man United, although he remains one of the prides of the world of football.

I am glad that Eric ten Hag said that at United the attacking line does not need to be strengthened (in terms of transfers), it is only necessary that the players be more effective. Apparently he was referring to Rashford and the others because Ronaldo is doing a great job. And I am glad that United are planning to strengthen all their other lines, maybe next season they will still be closer to the top.

[judas]

I am glad that Eric ten Hag said that at United the attacking line does not need to be strengthened (in terms of transfers), it is only necessary that the players be more effective. Apparently he was referring to Rashford and the others because Ronaldo is doing a great job. And I am glad that United are planning to strengthen all their other lines, maybe next season they will still be closer to the top.

Manchester United's priority is not the attacking line yeah. The most important thing for them is to strengthen their defense now. I wish Manchester United sell Harry Maguire but it doesn't seem like it will happen.    I don't think that he is reliable after that very bad performance last season. They can bring a better defender to replace him. If they don't do that they can at least sign a defensive midfielder to make their defense more reliable. They must solve this issue to be more effective next season.

[Magicalking]

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris, perhaps his departure from Barcelona is inseparable from the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club so that they can no longer afford to pay super expensive salaries.requested by Lionel Messi himself so that Barcelona decided to release him to PSG in the midst of Barcelona's own financial crisis

He can still contribute but in terms of performance this has obviously gone downhill especially to be at PSG at the moment.
His performance has decreased considerably and that is a fact because the age factor is also decisive in this.
On the other hand, the players at PSG are also almost all players who have famous names so it is difficult to be conspicuous.

Yes Messi's performance at PSG is still a shock to the world as his known to do better than he did, but let's give him time, this is his first season with psg and with time he would do better. I don't think the presence of Neymar and Mbappe was part of his issues in the club, we all know Messi is still fit and would be able to play for more 4 years or thereabout.

[Alanaz]

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

So far Madrid have only added 2 players there, namely Rudiger and Tchouameni.
Talking about Benzema's contract maybe this is a bit reasonable but I still have a feeling that this contract will still be extended. Benzema's productivity is still very good and it is possible that next season will also be the same even though he is indeed quite old now but I don't think the changes will be significant in terms of productivity next season.

[JeromeTash]

PSG can't get the trophy because of Neymar. I very much want Neymar to win the champions league trophy. But this guy has no chance. Even if Messi and Ronalda are in PSG, they still can't win the trophy. Because Neymar's bad luck is the biggest of all.

Are you sure of what you are saying bud?

Neymar hasn't won any single trophy because of the bad luck he has? You must be someone so superstitious.
Or under looking his achievements including the recent trophies he won with PSG

These are the trophies he has won so far;


Source: https://www.neymarjr.com/es/futbol/neymar-jr-13-years-professional-athlete

[lulumiya]

I don't think that PSG's still not winning any Champions League title is related to Neymar or any other player now. The problem must be their current management style. I wouldn't like to put it like Pochettino is a bad coach of course. I really like him as a coach normally but I just don't think that PSG are the right team for him. He has been successful in the Ligue 1 but it isn't the same when it comes to the Champions League. I hope to see them reaching an agreement with a new coach for this reason.