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June 13, 2022, 12:33:25 PM
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Manchester City's performance last season was very good. Unfortunately, they could not reach the Champions League final due to the defeat against Real Madrid. And so Guardiola wants to make his team even stronger next season. Guardiola knows his team's weaknesses very well. And so he continues to try to make these weak points stronger. I would at least hope that Manchester City's dream of winning the Champions League next season will come true.
Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
Man City only had 2 strikers last season, Liam Delap who rarely got the chance to play, and Gabriel Jesus who I don't think has a very good performance. As far as I know, Pep Guardiola once said that Man City doesn't need a new striker, but after they were eliminated in the Champions League semifinals, I guess Guardiola has just realized that they really need a reliable striker. For next season, Man City already has Haaland and if his performance is as expected then Man City will get even stronger.

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June 13, 2022, 12:38:46 PM
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That's right, they don't have a good finisher up front, and next season they have done that with Haaland joining the team. But that's just the beginning, I mean when they can't make good use of it then the situation will be the same. But I believe Pep can make Haaland able to play sharp here, because his experience as a coach has been tested.
It is indeed the coach's job to change the way of playing in a team because that is for the purpose of becoming a champion, moreover a coach like Pep has so much experience in the team that he will definitely be able to make a player like Haaland turn out to be very good to strengthen the team next season. Because I also believe in what you say
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June 13, 2022, 12:46:08 PM
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That's right, they don't have a good finisher up front, and next season they have done that with Haaland joining the team. But that's just the beginning, I mean when they can't make good use of it then the situation will be the same. But I believe Pep can make Haaland able to play sharp here, because his experience as a coach has been tested.
It is indeed the coach's job to change the way of playing in a team because that is for the purpose of becoming a champion, moreover a coach like Pep has so much experience in the team that he will definitely be able to make a player like Haaland turn out to be very good to strengthen the team next season. Because I also believe in what you say

Pep's reputation Of course there is no doubt as the world's top coach, last season when I faced Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals, I think I was a little unlucky. But next season Manchester City have got the world's top striker who has an extraordinary goal-scoring instinct. Manchester City has not had a striker like Halaand for several seasons. In my opinion, the Manchester City squad is very complete on all fronts but the arrival of Halaand makes the Manchester City squad perfect.
I think Manchester City will have more chances in chasing the Champions League next season.
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June 13, 2022, 12:49:07 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool

Don't let us use comparison for this players because everyone of them have thier downfalls, i remember when Mohd Sallah could not deliver a goal in this just conclusion champions league, many of the Liverpool fans balme him for lack of consistency, this is a player that we all know to have build a reputable career in the past years but much critics couldn't uprise whenever he delivers below expectations because he just enjoyed the favour of his past awesome performances, Manchester City tried well this season and i think wtih a change in their forward wing could make little more difference against next season.

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June 13, 2022, 01:03:06 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool

Don't let us use comparison for this players because everyone of them have thier downfalls, i remember when Mohd Sallah could not deliver a goal in this just conclusion champions league, many of the Liverpool fans balme him for lack of consistency, this is a player that we all know to have build a reputable career in the past years but much critics couldn't uprise whenever he delivers below expectations because he just enjoyed the favour of his past awesome performances, Manchester City tried well this season and i think wtih a change in their forward wing could make little more difference against next season.
True there is no end to making comparisons between players. But it's good to see a situation like that for the team when you have a striker who can take advantage of the smallest possible opportunities. Moreover, Manchester City are strong in defense and also their midfield, isn't it good for the club to have a sharp striker so that they can make the team composition complete.

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June 13, 2022, 01:19:03 PM
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At first many people believed with Manchester City will be able to compete further in the Champions League last season. But that vanished when they had to face Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the scourge of all representatives of England, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool have become victims of Real Madrid. Many do not believe in the dominance of Real Madrid and consider it just a luck. Lol

The problem is tactical because when Pep coaches them so well with the ball and progressing and they are good at counterpress, they may not be drilled or experience enough moments where they have to sustain serious pressure and suffer through a game. In the EPL it is probably ok but in UCL there will be teams that are good enough to make you suffer, and Man City haven't dealt with it enough to not break.The Champions League is not the Premier League. Even the great Arsenal teams under

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June 13, 2022, 01:36:09 PM
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Pep's reputation Of course there is no doubt as the world's top coach, last season when I faced Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals, I think I was a little unlucky. But next season Manchester City have got the world's top striker who has an extraordinary goal-scoring instinct. Manchester City has not had a striker like Halaand for several seasons. In my opinion, the Manchester City squad is very complete on all fronts but the arrival of Halaand makes the Manchester City squad perfect.
I think Manchester City will have more chances in chasing the Champions League next season.
Manchester City have really been unlucky this season because in the last 10 minutes they could concede 2 goals. Pep has indeed done a pretty good job at Manchester City because since Pep arrival, Manchester City has become a big club that is highly respected and has even become a team that has dominated the premier league in recent seasons. next season the manchester city squad on the front wing will belong to erling haaland we will be able to assess manchester city will provide strong competition in the champions league.
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June 13, 2022, 01:42:30 PM
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At first many people believed with Manchester City will be able to compete further in the Champions League last season. But that vanished when they had to face Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the scourge of all representatives of England, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool have become victims of Real Madrid. Many do not believe in the dominance of Real Madrid and consider it just a luck. Lol
The problem is tactical because when Pep coaches them so well with the ball and progressing and they are good at counterpress, they may not be drilled or experience enough moments where they have to sustain serious pressure and suffer through a game. In the EPL it is probably ok but in UCL there will be teams that are good enough to make you suffer, and Man City haven't dealt with it enough to not break.The Champions League is not the Premier League. Even the great Arsenal teams under
In the UCL it was a miss for Pep Guardiola for not defending such a strong back that when they were focused on attack and there was a bit of complacency then Real Madrid would definitely take advantage of that opportunity and indeed it proved to be a boomerang for Mancity because Real Madrid won from a lack of defence them, all representatives of England suffered the same fate in the UCL defense yesterday.

In UCL it is different from other leagues they will get stronger but when they are negligent it will backfire a little too.

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June 13, 2022, 01:54:39 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
Yes all clubs learn from experience, they try to improve the club according to the money they have. But the reality in the transfer market is very different. It was fortunate that Man city had a lot of money and got Haaland. Statistically at the moment I think Man City are strong candidates to win UCL next season. Their philosophy of the game is simply incredible. I think The Man City vs Madrid semi-final match is the real final. But the players' mentality is better they were able to win in overtime. Madrid will probably also be worried, they don't get what kind of players they plan to do. Next, I am waiting for the news of the results of the playoffs, who will enter the group phase later?
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June 13, 2022, 02:00:27 PM
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I wonder how Klopp's innovativeness manifests itself in your opinion? His team plays the same football as 5 and 10 years ago.
As for Guardiola, I can't think of anything about him that would make him stand out among hundreds of other coaches. His only "innovation" is to get a top team and take titles with it - Barcelona then Bayern with which he could not win the Champions League and now City which spend space money on football players but again he cannot win the Champions League.

I don't think that only winning the Champions League should suggest the quality of a coach. But in this case, exceptions can be made because Pep Guardiola has a very good team playing under him.
I really think that he should have won the Champions League this time with Manchester City. But they have lost to Real Madrid which absolutely can be said did not have a very good squad, hope they will be able to do better in the next season.

For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.

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June 13, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
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For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.

Yes, I agree with all the things that were mentioned about him. But I still believe that he should be given a little more time. I think he is still a good coach and if he had a little more attacking flexibility he could have come out with a win against Real Madrid in the Champions League. So, he should be given time for at least one more season and after that, if he fails to prove his worth then these things will make a lot more sense.

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June 13, 2022, 03:06:05 PM
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For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.

I honestly don't know, Guardiola has never convinced me
he seems like a good guy to me, but not a top coach
first he won, and thank you .. he had champions who were in their comfort zone and were giving beastly results
I'm good like that too
the good coach is seen with poor players (like Ranieri) not with the players he wants and strong


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June 13, 2022, 03:12:41 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
That's right, they don't have a good finisher up front, and next season they have done that with Haaland joining the team. But that's just the beginning, I mean when they can't make good use of it then the situation will be the same. But I believe Pep can make Haaland able to play sharp here, because his experience as a coach has been tested.
In the last few seasons, the pure striker position has always been an unsolved problem in the Man City squad. Man City has long been looking for a No. 9 striker, Erling Haaland presence in the squad will certainly have a good impact on Man City. Haaland will be the new goal machine for Man City, Haaland quality has been proven while still playing with Borussia Dortmund.  He closed the 2021/2022 season by scoring 29 goals for Borussia Dortmund in 30 appearances in all competitions. Haaland can add to the number of goals Man City is increasing, especially supported by players like Kevin De Bruyne who always spoil the Manchester City striker with his beautiful assists.

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June 13, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
Yes all clubs learn from experience, they try to improve the club according to the money they have. But the reality in the transfer market is very different. It was fortunate that Man city had a lot of money and got Haaland. Statistically at the moment I think Man City are strong candidates to win UCL next season. Their philosophy of the game is simply incredible. I think The Man City vs Madrid semi-final match is the real final. But the players' mentality is better they were able to win in overtime. Madrid will probably also be worried, they don't get what kind of players they plan to do. Next, I am waiting for the news of the results of the playoffs, who will enter the group phase later?

Manchester City is always a really strong candidate for the Champions League trophy. As they were in this Champions League but they lost to Real Madrid and if we think about the history of Real Madrid I think it is understandable because Real Madrid is the best team in the Champions League.

But that still does not explain why they have lost against Real Madrid even though Manchester City is the one who had the better team and also an advantage from the first leg. I hope they will be able to win the Champions League trophy next season otherwise a lot of questions are going to be thrown at them. A lot of people are already questioning the capability of their coach.

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June 13, 2022, 03:46:51 PM
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That's right, they don't have a good finisher up front, and next season they have done that with Haaland joining the team. But that's just the beginning, I mean when they can't make good use of it then the situation will be the same. But I believe Pep can make Haaland able to play sharp here, because his experience as a coach has been tested.
It is indeed the coach's job to change the way of playing in a team because that is for the purpose of becoming a champion, moreover a coach like Pep has so much experience in the team that he will definitely be able to make a player like Haaland turn out to be very good to strengthen the team next season. Because I also believe in what you say
In addition to the task of the coach to train and change the way of playing in a match to win, coaches must also pay close attention to what is lacking in their team and as soon as possible a coach to find ways to improve the shortcomings of a team.

If a team is maximized with very good training I believe it will be the key to the victory of a team, and this also seems to be very much focused on who the coach is, if he is a genius in conditioning his club, then glory will befall that club.

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June 13, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
Yes all clubs learn from experience, they try to improve the club according to the money they have. But the reality in the transfer market is very different. It was fortunate that Man city had a lot of money and got Haaland. Statistically at the moment I think Man City are strong candidates to win UCL next season. Their philosophy of the game is simply incredible. I think The Man City vs Madrid semi-final match is the real final. But the players' mentality is better they were able to win in overtime. Madrid will probably also be worried, they don't get what kind of players they plan to do. Next, I am waiting for the news of the results of the playoffs, who will enter the group phase later?

Manchester City is always a really strong candidate for the Champions League trophy. As they were in this Champions League but they lost to Real Madrid and if we think about the history of Real Madrid I think it is understandable because Real Madrid is the best team in the Champions League.

But that still does not explain why they have lost against Real Madrid even though Manchester City is the one who had the better team and also an advantage from the first leg. I hope they will be able to win the Champions League trophy next season otherwise a lot of questions are going to be thrown at them. A lot of people are already questioning the capability of their coach.
Real Madrid is not an easy opponent, it is very difficult to make them fall in the champions league, Real Madrid is known as the strongest team in the Champions League, and Manchester City is a great team too.
Next year we will all see if Manchester City will be the champions we are waiting for.

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June 13, 2022, 04:12:21 PM
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Some people predict one of the biggest issue why Man City failed to get champion league title because they don't have sharp forward players such as Benzema in Madrid or Moh Salah in Liverpool but apparently Guardiola realized this weakness and attempts to get new forward player and they were successfully get Haaland from Dortmund because probably with the arrival of Haaland can solved this issue and if Haaland can showed good performance i think Man City achievement will be more better than last season
Yes all clubs learn from experience, they try to improve the club according to the money they have. But the reality in the transfer market is very different. It was fortunate that Man city had a lot of money and got Haaland. Statistically at the moment, I think Man City are strong candidates to win UCL next season. Their philosophy of the game is simply incredible. I think The Man City vs Madrid semi-final match is the real final. But the players' mentality is better they were able to win in overtime. Madrid will probably also be worried, they don't get what kind of players they plan to do. Next, I am waiting for the news of the results of the playoffs, who will enter the group phase later?

Manchester City is always a really strong candidate for the Champions League trophy. As they were in this Champions League but they lost to Real Madrid and if we think about the history of Real Madrid I think it is understandable because Real Madrid is the best team in the Champions League. But based on previous statistics Real Madrid still stands a better chance, and the club is almost done with deals of new players some of the new signings are just left with medical results this will give Real Madrid quality team squads that will aid their championship-winning just like we saw in the last season.

But that still does not explain why they have lost against Real Madrid even though Manchester City is the one who had the better team and also an advantage from the first leg. I hope they will be able to win the Champions League trophy next season otherwise a lot of questions are going to be thrown at them. A lot of people are already questioning the capability of their coach.
Real Madrid is not an easy opponent, it is very difficult to make them fall in the champions league, Real Madrid is known as the strongest team in the Champions League, and Manchester City is a great team too.
Next year we will all see if Manchester City will be the champions we are waiting for.
Manchester City winning the championship next season will not be an easy nut to crack many clubs are there to limit Manchester city clubs like Liverpool Real Madrid and the rest. Most of the clubs are signing new contracts just to strengthen their team and prepare ahead for the next season.

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June 13, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
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Manchester City winning the championship next season will not be an easy nut to crack many clubs are there to limit Manchester city clubs like Liverpool Real Madrid and the rest. Most of the clubs are signing new contracts just to strengthen their team and prepare ahead for the next season.

Real Madrid has yet to add an experienced and talented player to their squad. They must strengthen the midfield and defense. They need new talented players. They will have to find a replacement for Luka Modrich. Real Madrid's performance next season will not be as good as expected if they do not find a suitable replacement for Luka Modrich.

Manchester City and Liverpool are doing their best to make the team stronger. Xavi, on the other hand, continues to try to strengthen his team. Manchester City, Liverpool, PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona will fight for the Champions League next season.

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June 13, 2022, 04:54:44 PM
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But if you look at the top scorers in the history of the Champions League, maybe there are several young players who have a chance to compete with Ronaldo and Messi, namely Mbappe and Halaand. now maybe they have a great opportunity to make a new history because they are both still young.

I'm not sure about that, haven't seen the potential of these two so far, yes I admit they did well in the local league but maybe different to UCL because they will face teams from Europe
But it is possible that mbappe and halland will be part of the all time top scorers of the UEFA Champions League, but maybe 10 years and more, to be on par with ronaldo and messi will likely be very difficult, ronaldo has a record of 140 goals and messi 125 goals

source : https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0257-0e910cf2494a-5185150de9d4-1000--champions-league-all-time-top-scorers-cristiano-ronaldo-lionel-/

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Messi has been playing consistently well all the time. But a lot has changed with time. Messi is not that young age like before. He is old enough now. That is why he could not play well in PSG.  Due to which he is not able to perform like before. A team always depends on good players.  A team's winning rate always depends on a good player.  Messi has given a lot of good games for Barcelona.  This achievement of Messi will remain forever.  Real Madrid could play a key role as a candidate for the Champions League trophy.But they should still add a good player.
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