ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

In case of Pant, he got jump-start because he's talented but to keep his place in the team performance is the key and majority here agree that he needs some time off as his performance is below average for quite some time, young guy so he shouldn't worry much. Rahul looked good so far but it doesn't mean he's exceptional WK (Part time WK as @Sithara mentioned). he's looking good only because Pant failed to capitalize and we didn't see much of Sanju Samson. Everything is open for discussion, it would be interesting to see what kohli & Co decides. i am favoring Sanju in T-20 and Rahul in ODI.

KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma are the best combination if they are not looking for left hand right hand combination and with the inclusion of Prithvi Shaw in the team i am not sure where he is going to play, as you said if the team wants Prithvi Shaw to open the batting then KL Rahul will come in the middle order to strengthen the team composition.

Shaw is pure opener. and opens in Ranji, Did open in u19 World cup, Open the inning in the Test Match against Windies.

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[pakhitheboss]

With KL Rahul coming as a n opener I do not think Shaw will get the chance to open. I think he will come after Virat as that where the Indian team is struggling. After Virat the batting oder is very shaky. There is a need for a stong and stable bats man after him.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

With KL Rahul coming as a n opener I do not think Shaw will get the chance to open. I think he will come after Virat as that where the Indian team is struggling. After Virat the batting oder is very shaky. There is a need for a stong and stable bats man after him.

In this match KL Rahul opened the innings and is Prithvi Shaw in the T20 scheme of things, i have not seen him play in a match but he is a talent for the future, they have 3 ODI and hopefully he will get a chance there and i expect Sanju Samson and Shaw getting some opportunity to prove their talents to perform in the international stage. In T20 today the middle order young players performed well than i expected and India does have the bench strength, they just need to give opportunities to these youngsters to showcase their talent.

[JSRAW]

With KL Rahul coming as a n opener I do not think Shaw will get the chance to open. I think he will come after Virat as that where the Indian team is struggling. After Virat the batting oder is very shaky. There is a need for a stong and stable bats man after him.

In this match KL Rahul opened the innings and is Prithvi Shaw in the T20 scheme of things, i have not seen him play in a match but he is a talent for the future, they have 3 ODI and hopefully he will get a chance there and i expect Sanju Samson and Shaw getting some opportunity to prove their talents to perform in the international stage. In T20 today the middle order young players performed well than i expected and India does have the bench strength, they just need to give opportunities to these youngsters to showcase their talent.

Guess, you are mixing T-20 and ODI squad. Prithvi is Dhawan's replacement for ODI not T-20 and Prithvi Shaw is not good for T-20 as he's competing for Opening slot with likes of Rohit-Rahul-Dhawan. In ODI he can get chance if KL Rahul comes at middle order as Batsman-WK.

ODI squad: Virat Kohli (C), Rohit Sharma, Prithvi Shaw, KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Rishabh Pant (wk), Shivam Dube, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Ravindra Jadeja, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Navdeep Saini, Shardul Thakur, Kedar Jadhav.

T20I squad:Virat Kohli (C), Rohit Sharma, Sanju Samson, KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Rishabh Pant (wk), Shivam Dube, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Washington Sundar, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Navdeep Saini, Ravindra Jadeja, Shardul Thakur

Shikhar Dhawan out of NZ tour and team again, this time shoulder injury. dude is getting old and body saying no more stunt in the field. In T-20 Sanju Samson is his replacement and for ODI Prithvi Shaw.

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/111885/shikhar-dhawan-out-of-nz-tour

[Vishnu.Reang]

With KL Rahul coming as a n opener I do not think Shaw will get the chance to open. I think he will come after Virat as that where the Indian team is struggling. After Virat the batting oder is very shaky. There is a need for a stong and stable bats man after him.

Shaw may get a chance, but he is more likely to bat in the middle order. The Indian top order right now is composed of top players such as Kohli, Rohit and Rahul and there is no room for anyone else unless some of these players gets injured. On the other hand, the middle order batsmen (apart from Sreyas Iyer) are not in good form and the selectors will be more open to replacing them.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Guess, you are mixing T-20 and ODI squad. Prithvi is Dhawan's replacement for ODI not T-20 and Prithvi Shaw is not good for T-20 as he's competing for Opening slot with likes of Rohit-Rahul-Dhawan. In ODI he can get chance if KL Rahul comes at middle order as Batsman-WK.

I have not seen Prithvi Shaw play in the IPL, the only time i saw him play was when he was in the U19 World Cup Indian team but i have seen him perform in a Test match scoring a century against West Indies at a decent run rate. If he is selected for ODI then he will open the innings and KL Rahul will come in the middle order that will strengthen the middle order.

[ene1980]

Shaw may get a chance, but he is more likely to bat in the middle order. The Indian top order right now is composed of top players such as Kohli, Rohit and Rahul and there is no room for anyone else unless some of these players gets injured. On the other hand, the middle order batsmen (apart from Sreyas Iyer) are not in good form and the selectors will be more open to replacing them.

I am bit confused when India is shuffling players all the time in different formats as they have a few players that are playing in all the formats, especially Rohit Sharma and Kohli and the rest of the members keep on shuffling, is it because they are still finding the best combination because they have a big bench strength because they are the only team i think with entirely different players in Test, ODI and T20 which is actually confusing and even in the recent T20 against New Zealand i was expecting New Zealand to win as i have to seen those new players but surprised to see that they step up the situation and played a match winning knock.

[pakhitheboss]

Shaw may get a chance, but he is more likely to bat in the middle order. The Indian top order right now is composed of top players such as Kohli, Rohit and Rahul and there is no room for anyone else unless some of these players gets injured. On the other hand, the middle order batsmen (apart from Sreyas Iyer) are not in good form and the selectors will be more open to replacing them.

I am bit confused when India is shuffling players all the time in different formats as they have a few players that are playing in all the formats, especially Rohit Sharma and Kohli and the rest of the members keep on shuffling, is it because they are still finding the best combination because they have a big bench strength because they are the only team i think with entirely different players in Test, ODI and T20 which is actually confusing and even in the recent T20 against New Zealand i was expecting New Zealand to win as i have to seen those new players but surprised to see that they step up the situation and played a match winning knock.

Shuffling was started in Sourav Ganguly era when he became the captain of Indian team. The idea is to test new comers and find the suitable one. This applicable for both bowler and batsmen. As cricket is one of the most popular game played in India the amount of players coming out, new talent is also huge. Generally there are more batsmen than bowler.

[Sithara007]

Guess, you are mixing T-20 and ODI squad. Prithvi is Dhawan's replacement for ODI not T-20 and Prithvi Shaw is not good for T-20 as he's competing for Opening slot with likes of Rohit-Rahul-Dhawan. In ODI he can get chance if KL Rahul comes at middle order as Batsman-WK.

I have not seen Prithvi Shaw play in the IPL, the only time i saw him play was when he was in the U19 World Cup Indian team but i have seen him perform in a Test match scoring a century against West Indies at a decent run rate. If he is selected for ODI then he will open the innings and KL Rahul will come in the middle order that will strengthen the middle order.

KL Rahul is currently doing well in the top order and therefore I don't think that they will shift him to the middle order. Shaw has always opened the batting for Mumbai in the Ranji Trophy tournament and I haven't seen him in any other position in the domestic setup. So there is also a chance that Shaw will play only if Rahul is rested. Anyway, I just hope that both him and Samson will get some opportunities to showcase their skills this time. It doesn't feels good when players are dropped after just one or two matches.

[pakhitheboss]

Guess, you are mixing T-20 and ODI squad. Prithvi is Dhawan's replacement for ODI not T-20 and Prithvi Shaw is not good for T-20 as he's competing for Opening slot with likes of Rohit-Rahul-Dhawan. In ODI he can get chance if KL Rahul comes at middle order as Batsman-WK.

I have not seen Prithvi Shaw play in the IPL, the only time i saw him play was when he was in the U19 World Cup Indian team but i have seen him perform in a Test match scoring a century against West Indies at a decent run rate. If he is selected for ODI then he will open the innings and KL Rahul will come in the middle order that will strengthen the middle order.

KL Rahul is currently doing well in the top order and therefore I don't think that they will shift him to the middle order. Shaw has always opened the batting for Mumbai in the Ranji Trophy tournament and I haven't seen him in any other position in the domestic setup. So there is also a chance that Shaw will play only if Rahul is rested. Anyway, I just hope that both him and Samson will get some opportunities to showcase their skills this time. It doesn't feels good when players are dropped after just one or two matches.

I also feel the same they would not try to shift KL Rahul and replace him with Shaw. Unless they feel KL Rahul needs to be rested, he is in form and has been performing quite well. I think they will try a different position for Shaw in the batting order. They might rest Rohit and try both as opener or they might change Rohit's batting order. He can play down the line.

[Sithara007]

I also feel the same they would not try to shift KL Rahul and replace him with Shaw. Unless they feel KL Rahul needs to be rested, he is in form and has been performing quite well. I think they will try a different position for Shaw in the batting order. They might rest Rohit and try both as opener or they might change Rohit's batting order. He can play down the line.

Rahul is not playing too many games to be rested. If they want to rest someone, then they should do that to the senior players such as Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Mohammad Shami (I am not adding Jasprit Bumrah here, because he just came back from a lengthy injury break). If India wins today's match, then the outcome of the 3rd match will be insignificant. The team management can ask 2-3 senior players to take rest for the third match and can give opportunity to some of the younger players who are warming the bench now.

[pakhitheboss]

I also feel the same they would not try to shift KL Rahul and replace him with Shaw. Unless they feel KL Rahul needs to be rested, he is in form and has been performing quite well. I think they will try a different position for Shaw in the batting order. They might rest Rohit and try both as opener or they might change Rohit's batting order. He can play down the line.

Rahul is not playing too many games to be rested. If they want to rest someone, then they should do that to the senior players such as Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Mohammad Shami (I am not adding Jasprit Bumrah here, because he just came back from a lengthy injury break). If India wins today's match, then the outcome of the 3rd match will be insignificant. The team management can ask 2-3 senior players to take rest for the third match and can give opportunity to some of the younger players who are warming the bench now.

Rahul is not playing from where did you get this information? Can you submit the source!

Yes, the management should rest all the senior players and let them test the new batch. This will give a clear picture of those who can be part of the worldcup team.

[JSRAW]

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Rahul is not playing too many games to be rested. If they want to rest someone, then they should do that to the senior players such as Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Mohammad Shami (I am not adding Jasprit Bumrah here, because he just came back from a lengthy injury break). If India wins today's match, then the outcome of the 3rd match will be insignificant. The team management can ask 2-3 senior players to take rest for the third match and can give opportunity to some of the younger players who are warming the bench now.

Rahul is not playing from where did you get this information? Can you submit the source!

Yes, the management should rest all the senior players and let them test the new batch. This will give a clear picture of those who can be part of the worldcup team.

I guess @Sithara meant to say that he's not playing all 3 formats for quite some time similar to Virat, Rohit and Shami (Rahul is technically out from the Test Squad) and India just finished 2 back to back Test series in their home season.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Shaw is pure opener. and opens in Ranji, Did open in u19 World cup, Open the inning in the Test Match against Windies.

Shaw performed well in his debut Test series and hopefully he will continue to perform well in ODI, he was banned for drug violation in his young age but the reason was said they popped because of cough syrup which is really unfortunate, looks like the T20 is already set as they are performing well and if they could give the bench players some opportunity it would be great, there are some spots in the ODI team and Shaw fits in perfectly if he performs.

[pakhitheboss]

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Rahul is not playing too many games to be rested. If they want to rest someone, then they should do that to the senior players such as Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Mohammad Shami (I am not adding Jasprit Bumrah here, because he just came back from a lengthy injury break). If India wins today's match, then the outcome of the 3rd match will be insignificant. The team management can ask 2-3 senior players to take rest for the third match and can give opportunity to some of the younger players who are warming the bench now.

Rahul is not playing from where did you get this information? Can you submit the source!

Yes, the management should rest all the senior players and let them test the new batch. This will give a clear picture of those who can be part of the worldcup team.

I guess @Sithara meant to say that he's not playing all 3 formats for quite some time similar to Virat, Rohit and Shami (Rahul is technically out from the Test Squad) and India just finished 2 back to back Test series in their home season.

Okay I got confused I thought he was referring to today's T20 match. Thanks for clarifying.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Yes, the management should rest all the senior players and let them test the new batch. This will give a clear picture of those who can be part of the worldcup team.

It is a 5-match series and India is leading 2-0. Even if they rest 2 senior players each for the remaining three matches, some of the junior players will be getting an opportunity to showcase their skills. That is, if the seniors are willing to take rest. The world cup is scheduled for later this year and this series represents a golden opportunity to test a few of the reserve players.

[sureshnsnet]

Today we have a match between India u19 vs Australia u19 in ICC under 19 world cup quarter-final match and Indian u19 team has finished the group stage unbeaten but now Indian u19 team faces first quarter fina match with australia u19 team. so there are any changes can Australia u19 can spot Indian u19 team at the knockout stage? or Indian u19 team goes through next level?

[onrise]

Today we have a match between India u19 vs Australia u19 in ICC under 19 world cup quarter-final match and Indian u19 team has finished the group stage unbeaten but now Indian u19 team faces first quarter fina match with australia u19 team. so there are any changes can Australia u19 can spot Indian u19 team at the knockout stage? or Indian u19 team goes through next level?

Quarter final between India vs OZ of U 19 have begun. OZ won the toss and decided to field and rightly so because they have managed to pick up quick 6 wickets of India team for a score of 144 runs in 38.4 . Jaiswal played well and got out at 62 runs and rest of batsman got out quickly and also played some loose shots as well.

[chennappa121]

Today we have a match between India u19 vs Australia u19 in ICC under 19 world cup quarter-final match and Indian u19 team has finished the group stage unbeaten but now Indian u19 team faces first quarter fina match with australia u19 team. so there are any changes can Australia u19 can spot Indian u19 team at the knockout stage? or Indian u19 team goes through next level?

Quarter final between India vs OZ of U 19 have begun. OZ won the toss and decided to field and rightly so because they have managed to pick up quick 6 wickets of India team for a score of 144 runs in 38.4 . Jaiswal played well and got out at 62 runs and rest of batsman got out quickly and also played some loose shots as well.

Finally Indian team has reached 233,  I think Indian team  given descent target to australia and it's quite disappointing performance from Indian team today because they won the all matches at group level so I expected more than 300+ runs today but they failed in batting. let see how Indian bowlers are going to control australian batting today.

[onrise]

Today we have a match between India u19 vs Australia u19 in ICC under 19 world cup quarter-final match and Indian u19 team has finished the group stage unbeaten but now Indian u19 team faces first quarter fina match with australia u19 team. so there are any changes can Australia u19 can spot Indian u19 team at the knockout stage? or Indian u19 team goes through next level?

Quarter final between India vs OZ of U 19 have begun. OZ won the toss and decided to field and rightly so because they have managed to pick up quick 6 wickets of India team for a score of 144 runs in 38.4 . Jaiswal played well and got out at 62 runs and rest of batsman got out quickly and also played some loose shots as well.

Finally Indian team has reached 233,  I think Indian team  given descent target to australia and it's quite disappointing performance from Indian team today because they won the all matches at group level so I expected more than 300+ runs today but they failed in batting. let see how Indian bowlers are going to control australian batting today.

Spectacular bowling performance by young Tygai has nailed OZ to 4 down on a score of just 17 runs. First over of the innings itself produced 3 wickets. And in third over another wicket. India though was able to make 233 runs inspite of losing quick initial wickets. Ankolekar was not out on 55 which helped India to surpass 200+ runs in the end.