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July 06, 2020, 03:40:44 PM
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We already got tons of cricket stadium here, instead of cricket stadium India could use some world class multi purpose stadium so that they can focus on other sports too.

There is not even one stadium with retractable roof in India. I don't know why the BCCI is not paying any attention to this, as more and more matches are getting cancelled as a result of rain interruption nowadays. Last year, the domestic season was seriously impacted by the rains and a large number of matches were called off. If Australia can afford it, then why not India? Such stadiums can be used for other sports as well.
Bhai brand new retractable roof stadium sucks up more than $1 Billion  so i am not sure if BCCI is capable to do that despite being one of the richest board in world cricket. Australia use their stadiums for duel purpose (Rugby mainly) if other sports in India ranks up then BCCI or sport authority could think about it IMO.
Now Corona is sucking otherwise I am feeling now Indian Authorities doing good work in other sports as well and soccer is also improving even still need some good time and structure for this all as its very big country with good potenial but many other factors also stoping them from this all hopefully in near future we will able to have some good sports infrastructure and good sportsperson.
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BCCI got hosting rights for next 2 WC tournaments so can imagine next world cup final in this ground, may be in 2021 T-20 World cup or 2023 50 overs WC and if not then IPL final is okay too.  
Very good pics of new stadium they can go for some more in Banglore, Chennai, Mumbai and Delhi as this will be great helpful in IPL matches and will give them great revenue.
We already got tons of cricket stadium here, instead of cricket stadium India could use some world class multi purpose stadium so that they can focus on other sports too.

Does it make more sense that BCCI along with Cricket should also pick some other sport and manage that as well. Though we have board for each sport than be it Hockey, kabaddi etc. But something like Archery, baseball etc in order to promote and build a good infrastructure and provide goo equipment’s and international trainer if possible requires money and since BBCI could easily do as other boards do not have money so this will help to create more talent among the people and also would be paid significantly than what it is being paid now to players.
This is good idea BCCI is one of richest Board and they can do some good business and could be more rich but its need some hard work and may be government approval as well they can sponsor some sports and this can give this sports better lifeline and BCCI more money like they can do work on Rugby and work on super league like IPL which can give some good profit.
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There is not even one stadium with retractable roof in India. I don't know why the BCCI is not paying any attention to this, as more and more matches are getting cancelled as a result of rain interruption nowadays. Last year, the domestic season was seriously impacted by the rains and a large number of matches were called off. If Australia can afford it, then why not India? Such stadiums can be used for other sports as well.
I do not remember seeing an international cricket match played in closed stadiums, there is nothing much that can be done and even if they build an expensive stadium and on top of that the maintenance charges, is it even worth spending that kind of money as i am not expecting cricket match to be played under a roof especially T20 as we might see more dead balls after hitting the roof.
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July 06, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
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Bhai brand new retractable roof stadium sucks up more than $1 Billion  so i am not sure if BCCI is capable to do that despite being one of the richest board in world cricket. Australia use their stadiums for duel purpose (Rugby mainly) if other sports in India ranks up then BCCI or sport authority could think about it IMO.

I am not sure about the $1 billion figure. In India, the construction and labor costs are low and therefore it should be cheap. Also I guess it may be possible to install retractable roof in some of the existing stadiums. And in this case the costs would be even lower. And if the BCCI can make deal with other sports bodies, then it is going to get more affordable. But trust me, every penny spent on such stadiums is going to be worth it. Just take the list of recent matches, which were washed out as a result of rain, and you would understand.
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July 06, 2020, 08:25:50 PM
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But trust me, every penny spent on such stadiums is going to be worth it. Just take the list of recent matches, which were washed out as a result of rain, and you would understand.
What you are saying makes sense, but the BCCI are way too corrupt to actually implement such stuff. Think about it. They could have easily installed such stuff long back with the revenue they pull in every year, but they didn't because of the state of Indian corruption.

India could have become a 1st world country if the corruption rates dropped to a minimal(Primarily the politicians), but it remains a 3rd world developing nation to date thanks to corruption and other bad qualities.

Countries like Singapore etc used to poor when compared to India, but look at them now. This is why it is best not to expect such grand stuff from a corrupt group like the BCCI.

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July 06, 2020, 09:09:52 PM
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But trust me, every penny spent on such stadiums is going to be worth it. Just take the list of recent matches, which were washed out as a result of rain, and you would understand.
What you are saying makes sense, but the BCCI are way too corrupt to actually implement such stuff. Think about it. They could have easily installed such stuff long back with the revenue they pull in every year, but they didn't because of the state of Indian corruption.

India could have become a 1st world country if the corruption rates dropped to a minimal(Primarily the politicians), but it remains a 3rd world developing nation to date thanks to corruption and other bad qualities.

Countries like Singapore etc used to poor when compared to India, but look at them now. This is why it is best not to expect such grand stuff from a corrupt group like the BCCI.
Best thing for India they have democrasy and worst thing for them they never adopt a system to fight against corruption so they are still struggling and living in third world countries they need to do some hard work for this all but their system is not allowing for this all so they have really serious trouble around them they can creat too many opportunities and things for local peoples but in last 73 years its really wastefull for this all as still fight is going on for Temple and Masjid its just because of these corrupt politicians and poor system.
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July 07, 2020, 06:15:52 AM
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India could use some world class multi purpose stadium so that they can focus on other sports too.

Does it make more sense that BCCI along with Cricket should also pick some other sport and manage that as well. Though we have board for each sport than be it Hockey, kabaddi etc. But something like Archery, baseball etc in order to promote and build a good infrastructure and provide goo equipment’s and international trainer if possible requires money and since BBCI could easily do as other boards do not have money so this will help to create more talent among the people and also would be paid significantly than what it is being paid now to players.
I am not a fan of centralized power and BCCI is already very strong organisation so i would be very careful by giving them more power. So not BCCI per se but i am in favor of privatization of sports in India, let someone else do that and BCCI could provide guidance or help if needed. And most importantly we need specialists, so sport minister must be elected from the sport fraternity and not any political outfit.

Bhai brand new retractable roof stadium sucks up more than $1 Billion  so i am not sure if BCCI is capable to do that despite being one of the richest board in world cricket. Australia use their stadiums for duel purpose (Rugby mainly) if other sports in India ranks up then BCCI or sport authority could think about it IMO.

I am not sure about the $1 billion figure. In India, the construction and labor costs are low and therefore it should be cheap. Also I guess it may be possible to install retractable roof in some of the existing stadiums. And in this case the costs would be even lower. And if the BCCI can make deal with other sports bodies, then it is going to get more affordable. But trust me, every penny spent on such stadiums is going to be worth it. Just take the list of recent matches, which were washed out as a result of rain, and you would understand.

Marvel stadium (multi purpose stadium also knows as Docklands Stadium and Etihad Stadium) in Melbourne, Australia was built in 2000, which hosted only 3 ODI in its history, cost around 460ish Million Australian dollars so 300-340 Million US dollars. Its 2020 so new stadium's price should be around $1B or may be more.

I understand your point but like i said earlier if other sports ranks up (multi-purpose stadium) then its worth it otherwise not so IMO. And i am not sure if old era stadiums are good choice due to weak foundation etc but yeah new stadiums seems like a winner if someone adding retractable roof.

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July 07, 2020, 11:26:33 AM
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I am not a fan of centralized power and BCCI is already very strong organisation so i would be very careful by giving them more power. So not BCCI per se but i am in favor of privatization of sports in India, let someone else do that and BCCI could provide guidance or help if needed. And most importantly we need specialists, so sport minister must be elected from the sport fraternity and not any political outfit.

Since independence, India had a total of 16 sports ministers (including the current one, Kiren Rijiju from Arunachal Pradesh). Out of these 16 individuals, only one had sports background. And that was Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, who won the silver medal for shooting during the 2004 Athens Olympics. He was the sports minister until May 2019, but was replaced by Rijiju after the elections.
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July 07, 2020, 03:05:21 PM
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I am not a fan of centralized power and BCCI is already very strong organisation so i would be very careful by giving them more power. So not BCCI per se but i am in favor of privatization of sports in India, let someone else do that and BCCI could provide guidance or help if needed. And most importantly we need specialists, so sport minister must be elected from the sport fraternity and not any political outfit.

Since independence, India had a total of 16 sports ministers (including the current one, Kiren Rijiju from Arunachal Pradesh). Out of these 16 individuals, only one had sports background. And that was Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, who won the silver medal for shooting during the 2004 Athens Olympics. He was the sports minister until May 2019, but was replaced by Rijiju after the elections.

This is now the high time that the sports minister should have the sports background compulsory, and this should be the pre-qualification. But unfortunately, that is not the case and as a result only cricket is being considered as the sports and receive the revenue and players form other sports are nowhere near in terms of the infrastructure for their practice grounds, money what they make as compared to cricket. When will the bureaucracy ends from the sports?

Politicians believe in politics regardless of their background, they will only follow the PR teams or their party. The best example is Pakistan, their PM is a legendary cricket player who had done nothing for the cricket team or the sports fraternity.

If you give the job of sports ministry to a player he will always behave just like a politician and not like a player.

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July 07, 2020, 04:22:22 PM
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I am not a fan of centralized power and BCCI is already very strong organisation so i would be very careful by giving them more power. So not BCCI per se but i am in favor of privatization of sports in India, let someone else do that and BCCI could provide guidance or help if needed. And most importantly we need specialists, so sport minister must be elected from the sport fraternity and not any political outfit.

Since independence, India had a total of 16 sports ministers (including the current one, Kiren Rijiju from Arunachal Pradesh). Out of these 16 individuals, only one had sports background. And that was Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, who won the silver medal for shooting during the 2004 Athens Olympics. He was the sports minister until May 2019, but was replaced by Rijiju after the elections.
Its very good you know about this all Vishnu I never check how many sports minister we have as we have some troubled things around so I know just one person who was really great and done very good jobs for our country Air Marshal Noor Khan in cricket Hockey and Squash we have some great history and this all done by alone this person after this now we are in deep troubles just because of these corrupt politicians and we never survive or now we have very blink chances to become great like this so mostly done by just one or two persons not all can do this same.
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July 07, 2020, 05:26:40 PM
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Since independence, India had a total of 16 sports ministers (including the current one, Kiren Rijiju from Arunachal Pradesh). Out of these 16 individuals, only one had sports background. And that was Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, who won the silver medal for shooting during the 2004 Athens Olympics. He was the sports minister until May 2019, but was replaced by Rijiju after the elections.
I have not thought about that and i never thought there is a sports minister and since you posted this i checked out and Spadafora is the minister for sports and youth policies and i have no idea whether they should be a player to get to that position as politics and sports are entirely different and if you had a minister then you can evaluate what changes they made and i would like to know what major changes they made after a sportsperson getting elected getting to the throne as minister.
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Since independence, India had a total of 16 sports ministers (including the current one, Kiren Rijiju from Arunachal Pradesh). Out of these 16 individuals, only one had sports background. And that was Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, who won the silver medal for shooting during the 2004 Athens Olympics. He was the sports minister until May 2019, but was replaced by Rijiju after the elections.
I have not thought about that and i never thought there is a sports minister and since you posted this i checked out and Spadafora is the minister for sports and youth policies and i have no idea whether they should be a player to get to that position as politics and sports are entirely different and if you had a minister then you can evaluate what changes they made and i would like to know what major changes they made after a sportsperson getting elected getting to the throne as minister.
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July 07, 2020, 07:31:27 PM
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It seems cricket enthusiasts forgot to mention about birthday of MSD one of the cricket legend ever in cricket history.Lot of people make this trending on social media and also I have seen many videos on youtube and instagram.Hopefully we can see him again in cricket ground once this covid 19 got resolved. Smiley

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It seems cricket enthusiasts forgot to mention about birthday of MSD one of the cricket legend ever in cricket history.Lot of people make this trending on social media and also I have seen many videos on youtube and instagram.Hopefully we can see him again in cricket ground once this covid 19 got resolved. Smiley
Now this is very difficult case for him as age factor is also coming for MSD but in IPL still he can do some good things for his team in next event as he is really legend cricketer for India with best success rate and many great memories.
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Now this is very difficult case for him as age factor is also coming for MSD but in IPL still he can do some good things for his team in next event as he is really legend cricketer for India with best success rate and many great memories.
I understand that Mahendra Singh Dhoni is getting old but he deserves a farewell series as he is one of the best cricket minds i have seen in cricket and during his playing days i never used to understand his leadership skills and the changes he used to make during crucial situations but those changes made the difference between defeat and victory and for a player and captain like that he fully deserves a farewell series irrespective of his age .
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It seems cricket enthusiasts forgot to mention about birthday of MSD one of the cricket legend ever in cricket history.Lot of people make this trending on social media and also I have seen many videos on youtube and instagram.Hopefully we can see him again in cricket ground once this covid 19 got resolved. Smiley
Now this is very difficult case for him as age factor is also coming for MSD but in IPL still he can do some good things for his team in next event as he is really legend cricketer for India with best success rate and many great memories.
We can't say MSD is out of international career because we all have seen his fitness level in the recent time but he just stepped down from captaincy to give enough time for the new players to sync with the team for the next world cup.But no matter of what he is going to represent CSK in IPL tournament so as always I am a big fan of him forever. Smiley

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July 08, 2020, 11:03:26 AM
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I understand that Mahendra Singh Dhoni is getting old but he deserves a farewell series as he is one of the best cricket minds i have seen in cricket and during his playing days i never used to understand his leadership skills and the changes he used to make during crucial situations but those changes made the difference between defeat and victory and for a player and captain like that he fully deserves a farewell series irrespective of his age .

This is the problem with the Indian cricket team. Personal achievements are always given preference over the team achievements. Look at the Australian team. They would never do something like this. And that's why they have won more ICC tournaments, when compared to the Indians. Mahendra Singh Dhoni is a legend. If he is in form, then he'll find a slot in the playing XI. If that is not the case, then he should sit out.
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July 08, 2020, 11:36:28 AM
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This is the problem with the Indian cricket team. Personal achievements are always given preference over the team achievements. Look at the Australian team. They would never do something like this. And that's why they have won more ICC tournaments, when compared to the Indians. Mahendra Singh Dhoni is a legend. If he is in form, then he'll find a slot in the playing XI. If that is not the case, then he should sit out.
No idea about the exclusion of Mahendra Singh Dhoni just because he is out of form and there is another exceptional talent replacing him, i have not seen either and hence what is the debate here, the replacement wicket keeper has dropped many catches in a single tournament than what Dhoni might have dropped in his entire career Tongue.

Glenn McGrath got his farewell and so does Justin Langer and Shane Warne, coming to New Zealand Brendon McCullum got a farewell match and even the Australian players gave him the guard of honor if you want more, Alastair Cook when he announced his retirement got a grand farewell and the Indian team gave him a guard of honor and there are many more and i consider MSD as the best player from India and he deserves that kind of farewell rather than ignoring him.
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July 08, 2020, 12:16:29 PM
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Now this is very difficult case for him as age factor is also coming for MSD but in IPL still he can do some good things for his team in next event as he is really legend cricketer for India with best success rate and many great memories.
Age is less important when compared to fitness and performance. For example, look at Shami. He made a remarkable comeback thanks to his fitness and performance in recent times. The same applies to any Cricket player.

MSD clearly wants to continue playing in ODI and T20 formats which is why he never announced his retirement so far. As long as he is fit, he will definitely be chosen over any other wicket-keeper currently.

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July 08, 2020, 02:35:04 PM
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I understand that Mahendra Singh Dhoni is getting old but he deserves a farewell series as he is one of the best cricket minds i have seen in cricket and during his playing days i never used to understand his leadership skills and the changes he used to make during crucial situations but those changes made the difference between defeat and victory and for a player and captain like that he fully deserves a farewell series irrespective of his age .

This is the problem with the Indian cricket team. Personal achievements are always given preference over the team achievements. Look at the Australian team. They would never do something like this. And that's why they have won more ICC tournaments, when compared to the Indians. Mahendra Singh Dhoni is a legend. If he is in form, then he'll find a slot in the playing XI. If that is not the case, then he should sit out.
We didn't see any struggle on his game play, he just want to give enough time for the team to settle down under new captain when he is out from team India, we all can see many legendary cricket teams are struggling now due to lack of sync in the team with each other.

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