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July 31, 2023, 06:37:48 AM
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In the second ODI match, India's batting performance was good at first but later on it was very bad. For which West Indies provided good bowling and collected excellent wickets, India lost all their wickets. Indian batsmen scored 181 runs losing all their wickets which was really unfortunate for India to lose such a strong team by so few runs. On the other hand, when West Indies came out to bat, they put up a great batting performance and achieved a huge win by 6 wickets. India's batting and bowling performance did not do well in the match which they lost to West Indies. The batsmen of West Indies have done a fantastic batting to match India and if India could have improved their bowling performance, it would have been difficult to win the match against West Indies. But unfortunately India did not perform very well in the match due to which they lost with West Indies.
Apart from India's two openers, none of the batsmen could play well in yesterday's match. India managed to muster perhaps 90 runs from the opening pair. And then they started losing wickets, and lost all the wickets to collect just 181 runs. I did not think that the Indian batsmen would bat so badly. India's batting line-up is very talented and experienced enough. Even then they could not survive at the crease against the West Indies bowlers. The Indian team conceded a humiliating defeat. West Indies reached the target with the loss of just 4 wickets.
The Indian batting line-up is considered to be the strongest batting line-up but even with the strongest batting line-up in the world, the Indian batsmen could not survive against the West Indies bowlers. The ODI World Cup is ahead and being bowled out for just 181 runs in 40 overs against a team that did not qualify for the World Cup is certainly a cause for concern for Indian cricket. India has many plans around the 2023 ODI World Cup which is going to be held in India and India is planning to win the World Cup at its home ground. If such a performance comes from the batsmen right before they plan to win the World Cup, then it is definitely a cause for concern.

I really did not think that West Indies was going to beat India, to be honest. But West Indies has achieved the win against India. They did it very well too. The batting lineup of India actually failed.

I know that @LittleBitFunny said that both openers from India performed well. But I will say that only Ishan Kishan was the one who performed well. And I don’t believe that any other player from India was actually able to perform well. West Indies did a very good job of picking up wickets at regular intervals. In the second innings west Indies also did very well to actually chase down the total. The third match is going to be the decider and India will certainly have to perform better.

And I agree with @Litzki1990 that this is certainly a cause for concern for India

Former Indian cricketers including Indian fans could not be happy with such performance of India. After losing the second ODI match against West Indies, former Indian cricketer Kapil Dev said that India lost this match because of their pride. It means that India may not have given much importance to West Indies in the second match after winning the first match, which is why India did so badly in the second ODI match. India, who did poorly in the second match, will definitely do well in the third match as they are already under a lot of pressure after losing the second ODI match, so they will have to do a lot of planning before taking the field in the third match against the West Indies.

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July 31, 2023, 10:55:44 AM
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After losing the second ODI match against West Indies, former Indian cricketer Kapil Dev said that India lost this match because of their pride. It means that India may not have given much importance to West Indies in the second match after winning the first match, which is why India did so badly in the second ODI match.

India did underestimate West Indies in my opinion. Otherwise there is literally no reason for India to be able to lose against West Indies. We have seen this thing happen countless times before as well. The stronger team underestimates the weaker, one and pays for it. This was unexpected. But it is also understandable why this happened.

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India, who did poorly in the second match, will definitely do well in the third match as they are already under a lot of pressure after losing the second ODI match, so they will have to do a lot of planning before taking the field in the third match against the West Indies.

of course, India is going to do well in the third ODI. But that is not going to heal the wounds that was made by losing against the West Indies in the second ODI. But if we actually think about it, I think some people actually expected something like this to happen. Because India was experimenting in this series.

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July 31, 2023, 02:29:43 PM
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In the second ODI, West Indies managed to secure victory against India in a remarkable way. In the first match, India managed to secure a massive victory, leading many to think that the West Indies would not be able to secure a single match victory. But in the second ODI, West Indies secured victory and now there is a draw. Hope the last match will be a very competitive match.
In first ODI, West Indies were bowled out for just 114 runs and India too lost 5 wickets while chasing that small target. The second ODI was different in a sense that two key indian players Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli were not playing. Its a good move from India to try some new combination and test new players in real scenarios. I am sure in last ODI India will go full strength to secure the series.
Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are senior players. India will not have these two experienced players on the squad for a long time. That is why BCCI is trying to find suitable replacements for these two important players. And so India did not keep these two players in the XI against the West Indies. India's performance in both the matches left me very disappointed. Especially their batting was very weak. We have seen bad batting from India in both the matches. India lost 5 wickets only to score 118 runs in the first match. They suffered a humiliating defeat in the second match as well. India needs to work more on their batting line-up. India's batting line-up urgently needs to improve.
This is the time when India should've showed its strength to the world. As the world cup is fast approaching countries will be watching each other teams performance and study the players. West Indies is really down in its performance and India losing against them without any fight is really bad cricket from India. As said the team requires improvement at the earliest. Losing the third ODI will surely down the performance of players. Indian players should have this in mind and plan accordingly.

I think BCCI formed their experimental squad for the first two ODI matches. But they won't make any mistakes in the third match. They will strengthen the squad. And we will probably see Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli in the squad.

India's performance in both matches was poor. The performance of the bowlers was average. But the performance of the batsmen was very disappointing. And because of bad batting, they lost the second match. The players in the Indian squad have been somewhat out of form for a long time. Even in the World Cup, if the performance of the players is so irregular, then the team will not be able to qualify for the semi-finals of the World Cup. Squad players should be more diligent.

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July 31, 2023, 05:58:56 PM
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In first ODI, West Indies were bowled out for just 114 runs and India too lost 5 wickets while chasing that small target. The second ODI was different in a sense that two key indian players Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli were not playing. Its a good move from India to try some new combination and test new players in real scenarios. I am sure in last ODI India will go full strength to secure the series.
Again here I will say that we can't underestimate the West Indies team. Many of here was saying how you can say that and you should bet on West Indies and bla bla bla. But thing is that this is the game. And in the cricket match we can say this the game of 10 balls only. And the game can be finished.
So thing is that I believe that the Indian team is good but I was saying that we can't underestimate the West Indies team.

West Indies team is playing at home, and India won't underestimate their opponents. In the second ODI, India tried out a different batting order, but unfortunately, it did not work out well, and ended up losing the match. The decision to experiment backfired on them, but a good victory for West Indies. Brathwaite's team is looking to end their losing streak, and determined after failing to qualify for the ODI World Cup in 2023. They believe that they can make a strong comeback as this setbacks are just temporary.
August 01 will be their last ODI match of the 3-match ODI series. Indian team will definitely try their best to win the series. They will definitely learn from the mistakes they made in the 2nd ODI. India team performed very badly in the last match. If India team could have batted full 50 overs i think West Indies team could not win that match. West Indies are trying but they are not succeeding. A team that once won the World Cup is now struggling to qualify for the World Cup which shows a massive decline in their game. Even if they do not qualify for the upcoming World Cup, many believe that they will definitely qualify for the next World Cup and will be able to progress their performance.

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July 31, 2023, 11:43:59 PM
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In first ODI, West Indies were bowled out for just 114 runs and India too lost 5 wickets while chasing that small target. The second ODI was different in a sense that two key indian players Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli were not playing. Its a good move from India to try some new combination and test new players in real scenarios. I am sure in last ODI India will go full strength to secure the series.
Again here I will say that we can't underestimate the West Indies team. Many of here was saying how you can say that and you should bet on West Indies and bla bla bla. But thing is that this is the game. And in the cricket match we can say this the game of 10 balls only. And the game can be finished.
So thing is that I believe that the Indian team is good but I was saying that we can't underestimate the West Indies team.

West Indies team is playing at home, and India won't underestimate their opponents. In the second ODI, India tried out a different batting order, but unfortunately, it did not work out well, and ended up losing the match. The decision to experiment backfired on them, but a good victory for West Indies. Brathwaite's team is looking to end their losing streak, and determined after failing to qualify for the ODI World Cup in 2023. They believe that they can make a strong comeback as this setbacks are just temporary.
August 01 will be their last ODI match of the 3-match ODI series. Indian team will definitely try their best to win the series. They will definitely learn from the mistakes they made in the 2nd ODI. India team performed very badly in the last match. If India team could have batted full 50 overs i think West Indies team could not win that match. West Indies are trying but they are not succeeding. A team that once won the World Cup is now struggling to qualify for the World Cup which shows a massive decline in their game. Even if they do not qualify for the upcoming World Cup, many believe that they will definitely qualify for the next World Cup and will be able to progress their performance.
With the next ODI world cup the competence will be very high as more and more small countries have started to perform good. West Indies needs some solid players as the past days and the management should also give consideration for the players. In the upcoming match the pressure will be high on India as the team losing against West Indies will low their confidence level. West Indies need to do their best to keep themselves strong amidst their disqualification into the World Cup.

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August 01, 2023, 01:32:51 AM
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August 01 will be their last ODI match of the 3-match ODI series. Indian team will definitely try their best to win the series. They will definitely learn from the mistakes they made in the 2nd ODI.
Exactly. If you are imposing that situation on India team. So on the other hand. West Indies also try to its best to win this match means also try to win this series. And both teams will try to find out their mistakes which they made in the last two matches and will try to eliminate them. Both teams will in under pressure because both will play to win the series. So in pressure both teams can make mistakes. So now we can not say anything who will win because both have won 1-1 match. So let's see.

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August 01, 2023, 07:05:10 AM
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West Indies lost to Zimbabwe, Scotland and Netherlands a few weeks back. And the same West Indies managed to defeat India during the second ODI. What does that tell about the Indian team? Does it mean that without Kohli, Rohit and Shami, India are unable to win matches against associate nations? If that is the case, then things doesn't sound that well for the future of the Indian team. And for the second match, India had heavyweights such as Ishan Kishan, Shubman Gill, Axar Patel, Hardik Pandya and Ravindra Jadeja in the squad.   

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August 01, 2023, 11:48:19 AM
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West Indies lost to Zimbabwe, Scotland and Netherlands a few weeks back. And the same West Indies managed to defeat India during the second ODI. What does that tell about the Indian team? Does it mean that without Kohli, Rohit and Shami, India are unable to win matches against associate nations? If that is the case, then things doesn't sound that well for the future of the Indian team. And for the second match, India had heavyweights such as Ishan Kishan, Shubman Gill, Axar Patel, Hardik Pandya and Ravindra Jadeja in the squad.   
The second match was a humiliating loss for India. Ishan Kishan,Samson,Shubman Gill,Akshar Patel,Hardik Pandya played well in IPL they lost themselves in the tour of West Indies only playing well in their own ground. BCCI might have wanted to see if India could win without experienced players in the team. According to me no one can fill the place of Rohit and Kohli. As these two play well in their home soil, they also play very well abroad. If these two batsmen retire I think the future of India is a bit bad. As happened after Dhoni retired. India will field their full strength squad in the third match today.
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August 01, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
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India vs West Indies

In the third and final match of the series, the Indian team is going to face the West Indies shortly after. I decided to bet on India to win even if they lost the last match.
Although India won the first match, their batsmen's performance was not good. They lost 5 batsmen to collect only 115 runs. And in the second match, the Indian team had to lose due to bad batting. However, they did not have two experienced batsmen like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma in their squad. Kohli and Rohit may be kept in the squad instead of Axar Patel and Samson in today's match. I expect India to win today. They will definitely not want to lose the series.

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You know it's just wasted bilateral when Jaydev Unadkat makes an appearance in the playing XI. He's not even 8th-9th choice bowler and not in any scheme of things in ODI but still playing and filling the spot. As far as other name goes, it's up to them to take advantage of these opportunities.

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August 01, 2023, 01:55:20 PM
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West Indies vs India, 3rd ODI West Indies opt to bowl and India bat. It is difficult to say which team will win this third ODI today as West Indies have won one match and India have won one match in the previous two matches. Both the matches in the ODI series were well played between the two teams India played well and West Indies also performed well. But it is difficult to say which team can perform well in today's match but if India can perform well today then it can win. West Indies will surely win today if they perform like India did in the second ODI match. But right now, as India batsmen are batting well, if they can collect a good score, they will have a chance to win today's series.

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August 01, 2023, 02:13:58 PM
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West Indies VS India

India batting first after losing the toss against West Indies in the series deciding match where India has got off to a good start as so far India has managed to score 56 runs without a wicket after batting 8 overs. India will definitely try to play their best in the third match due to the humiliating defeat in the second match. India's opening batsman is unbeaten on the wicket so far as India got off to a good start so hopefully India will be able to put up a strong target against West Indies in the first innings.  
300-350 runs will be a challenging target for West Indies. Hope India can set a big target against West Indies.

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August 01, 2023, 02:20:54 PM
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India vs West Indies 3rd ODI match started today. Although I would like to go back to the previous matches as India won one and West Indies won the second ODI match so both teams are evenly matched. The team that can perform well today will win because if India's opening batsmen can score good runs then there is definitely a chance to win.  Because India's run collection in powerplay is much improved, if I want to say Alzarri joseph bowling is very bad performance of West Indies team players. If the Indian team can collect runs like this and protect the wickets, they will definitely score 350 plus runs.

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August 01, 2023, 02:30:51 PM
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West Indies vs India Today's 3rd ODI match between two teams has started. West Indies won the toss and decided to bowl. India came out to bat. India scored 91 runs in 12 overs. India has not lost any wicket so far. But Ishan Kishan has given a great performance in batting.  49 runs from 39 balls. If Ishan Kishan can bat for some time then Ishan Kishan can score 100 runs. And Shubman Gill scored 38 runs from 36 balls. If India can give a good run target in today's match, India team will win the match.  There will be opportunities.

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August 01, 2023, 03:02:29 PM
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India vs West Indies

In the third and final match of the series, the Indian team is going to face the West Indies shortly after. I decided to bet on India to win even if they lost the last match.
Although India won the first match, their batsmen's performance was not good. They lost 5 batsmen to collect only 115 runs. And in the second match, the Indian team had to lose due to bad batting. However, they did not have two experienced batsmen like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma in their squad. Kohli and Rohit may be kept in the squad instead of Axar Patel and Samson in today's match. I expect India to win today. They will definitely not want to lose the series.

Indian openers Ishan Kishan and Shubman Gill are destroying the West Indies bowlers today. We will not see the target of low score in this match as in the last two matches. And the way the two Indian openers are batting now, no doubt India will set a target of at least 350 runs today. India did not lose any wicket in 19 overs. And they collected 141 runs. The team is collecting an average of 7.2 runs per over. Ishan Kishan remained unbeaten with 76 runs and Shubman Gill 54 runs. I expect Team India to give more than 350 target today. But in the past matches, we have seen that even though the two Indian openers batted well, the other batsmen could not maintain consistency. I hope we will not see that today.

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August 01, 2023, 03:03:56 PM
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West Indies won the toss and decided to bowl. Team India used this decision properly and they are batting well. India are batting with power Ishan kishan and Shubman Gill have formed a great partnership Ishan kishan scored 77 runs off 64 balls and Shubman Gill scored 55 runs off 54 balls and it looks like they both can score a century. Team India is batting very well they have not lost any wicket so far. The way the game is going now it seems that Team India will target West Indies with big runs, let's see which way the match turns in the end.

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August 01, 2023, 03:11:54 PM
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West Indies won the toss and decided to bowl. Team India used this decision properly and they are batting well. India are batting with power Ishan kishan and Shubman Gill have formed a great partnership Ishan kishan scored 77 runs off 64 balls and Shubman Gill scored 55 runs off 54 balls and it looks like they both can score a century. Team India is batting very well they have not lost any wicket so far. The way the game is going now it seems that Team India will target West Indies with big runs, let's see which way the match turns in the end.
India batted brilliantly today scoring 144 runs for the loss of 1 wicket in 20 overs. Made a partnership of 143 runs in the opening batting. Ishan Kishan batted brilliantly and got out with 77 runs off 64 balls. Ishan Kishan is batting in T20 style in today's match but missed out on a century. Shubman Gill batted brilliantly scoring 55 runs off 54 balls. Yannic Chariah took first wicket.
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August 01, 2023, 03:25:06 PM
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West Indies won the toss and decided to bowl. Team India used this decision properly and they are batting well. India are batting with power Ishan kishan and Shubman Gill have formed a great partnership Ishan kishan scored 77 runs off 64 balls and Shubman Gill scored 55 runs off 54 balls and it looks like they both can score a century. Team India is batting very well they have not lost any wicket so far. The way the game is going now it seems that Team India will target West Indies with big runs, let's see which way the match turns in the end.
Ishan Kishan has been in great form, scoring four consecutive fifties. But, he failed to convert it to century. Today's the bright side, Shubman Gill scored a fifty in the series decider and he has a good chance of getting a century. He had struggled in his previous ten innings, so this 50+ score is a positive sign for him. The pitch seems to looks like batting friendly, and today's Indian batting order looks more confident than before. The way they are playing suggests that India will definitely set a big target against West Indies and win the ODI series by 2-1.
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August 01, 2023, 03:28:00 PM
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India vs West Indies

In the third and final match of the series, the Indian team is going to face the West Indies shortly after. I decided to bet on India to win even if they lost the last match.
Although India won the first match, their batsmen's performance was not good. They lost 5 batsmen to collect only 115 runs. And in the second match, the Indian team had to lose due to bad batting. However, they did not have two experienced batsmen like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma in their squad. Kohli and Rohit may be kept in the squad instead of Axar Patel and Samson in today's match. I expect India to win today. They will definitely not want to lose the series.
Indian openers Ishan Kishan and Shubman Gill are destroying the West Indies bowlers today. We will not see the target of low score in this match as in the last two matches. And the way the two Indian openers are batting now, no doubt India will set a target of at least 350 runs today. India did not lose any wicket in 19 overs. And they collected 141 runs. The team is collecting an average of 7.2 runs per over. Ishan Kishan remained unbeaten with 76 runs and Shubman Gill 54 runs. I expect Team India to give more than 350 target today. But in the past matches, we have seen that even though the two Indian openers batted well, the other batsmen could not maintain consistency. I hope we will not see that today.

England's two openers managed to get off to a good start. But the subsequent batsmen are not able to maintain consistency. Ishan Kishan returned to the fold with a 64-ball 77. Raturaj Gaikwad was then dismissed for just 8 runs off 14 balls. He could not play well. But Shubman Gill is still at the crease. Sanju Samson has already collected 18 runs off 8 balls. And Gill remained unbeaten on 61 off 64 balls. India collected 175 runs in 25 overs. Quite a good collection. But the batsmen must try to stay at the crease. India's team will not be able to collect 300 runs if they lose wickets very quickly.

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August 01, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
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England's two openers managed to get off to a good start. But the subsequent batsmen are not able to maintain consistency. ~
Looks like you mistyped, you mentioned about the India's match that is ongoing and not England's  Wink.

After some terrible batting performance from India, they looked set for a huge total in the series decider. The openers gave a century run partnership and Shubman Gill is still in the crease and looks like he is going to score another century and Sanju Samson is playing with full freedom as he smacked 3 sixes in his short innings and hopefully he will go on to score a big one.
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