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June 27, 2023, 04:17:48 PM
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After watching the performance by West Indies, they do not deserve a spot after the match against Netherlands, the number of catches they dropped and majority of them were easy ones even a school kid could catch them, they were fumbling on the field. Really surprised by the ability by Netherlands to fight till the end and then to send out Logan van Beek for the super over and then to come out and bowl the super over was an incredible decision by Netherlands.
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June 27, 2023, 04:26:42 PM
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One of the best teams in Asia was bowled out for just 245 runs against a team like Scotland. Scotland were beaten by Sri Lanka but their bottom line was that they bowled out Sri Lanka for 245 runs. Scotland this team we only see when we play World Cup Qualifiers other times we don't see this team playing friendly matches with any country. If Scotland had been playing series with big teams throughout the year, their cricket would have improved a lot by now. Since the 2015 World Cup, this team has started doing well in the World Cup Qualifiers since then if some money could have been spent behind this team then this team might have made it to the main stage of the World Cup without playing the qualifiers. The Scotland Cricket Board still has time to plan this team.

Sri Lankan batters have had a tough time, as their middle and lower order collapsed badly. They were bowled out just for 145 runs. However, this score did not put any trouble for them to win over Scotland, because of their impressive bowling. I must say that Scotland's reckless batting played a significant role in their defeat. I suppose if they exercised more patience, they could have put up a better fight. Scotland's bowling attack turned out to be quite impressive in today's match. Of-course they need to continue working on their game regularly to maintain a good level of performance. It is fact that playing more matches will certainly improve their gameplay and confidence levels. It's high time to ensure that every cricket-playing nation gets an adequate chance to play enough games. There should be no discrimination between big and small teams anymore.

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June 27, 2023, 06:12:00 PM
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Sri Lankan team showed great performance in this match Sri Lanka vs Scotland. Sri Lanka is a strong team compared to Scotland and is ranked first in Group B with 8 points. Sri Lanka beat Scotland in today's match to increase their points by winning the match and topping the group. Scotland is second in group points but they did not perform well in today's match. However, Sri Lanka played brilliantly to win by a huge margin of 81 runs and top the group points. Sri Lanka bowlers took all the wickets for Scotland 163 runs and Scotland lost.

Sri Lanka have won all four matches. And it is already predicted that Sri Lanka will win. The Sri Lankan team is very strong and is in very good form now. They are unfortunate that they are playing in the World Cup qualifiers. The Sri Lankan team is experienced compared to other teams. And so we see the dominance of Sri Lanka in every match against the opponent. Sri Lanka won today's match against Scotland by 82 runs. Sri Lanka easily won today's match despite giving a target of 246 runs.

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June 27, 2023, 06:19:58 PM
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One of the best teams in Asia was bowled out for just 245 runs against a team like Scotland. Scotland were beaten by Sri Lanka but their bottom line was that they bowled out Sri Lanka for 245 runs. Scotland this team we only see when we play World Cup Qualifiers other times we don't see this team playing friendly matches with any country. If Scotland had been playing series with big teams throughout the year, their cricket would have improved a lot by now. Since the 2015 World Cup, this team has started doing well in the World Cup Qualifiers since then if some money could have been spent behind this team then this team might have made it to the main stage of the World Cup without playing the qualifiers. The Scotland Cricket Board still has time to plan this team.

Sri Lankan batters have had a tough time, as their middle and lower order collapsed badly. They were bowled out just for 145 runs. However, this score did not put any trouble for them to win over Scotland, because of their impressive bowling. I must say that Scotland's reckless batting played a significant role in their defeat. I suppose if they exercised more patience, they could have put up a better fight. Scotland's bowling attack turned out to be quite impressive in today's match. Of-course they need to continue working on their game regularly to maintain a good level of performance. It is fact that playing more matches will certainly improve their gameplay and confidence levels. It's high time to ensure that every cricket-playing nation gets an adequate chance to play enough games. There should be no discrimination between big and small teams anymore.
Scotland lost against Sri Lanka mainly due to lack of adequate guidance. If they had not got the right direction like Sri Lanka, they might not have lost this match. Sri Lanka's middle order and lower order batsmen are not providing good batting support as you mentioned. Sri Lanka is a big name in cricket and there is no option to perform well to protect their reputation. If they avoid like this then what will they do in the main phase. They should identify the areas where they are doing badly and strengthen that area but in that respect I think Sri Lanka is indifferent because they are not doing anything about it. Sri Lanka must do better in batting. Sri Lanka batting as a professional team is not satisfied at all.

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June 27, 2023, 06:53:02 PM
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After watching the performance by West Indies, they do not deserve a spot after the match against Netherlands, the number of catches they dropped and majority of them were easy ones even a school kid could catch them, they were fumbling on the field. Really surprised by the ability by Netherlands to fight till the end and then to send out Logan van Beek for the super over and then to come out and bowl the super over was an incredible decision by Netherlands.

It seems incredible to me that any team can be beaten after scoring 374 runs in 50 overs. The opponent Netherlands is not a strong team. West Indies lost this match due to their stupidity and poor performance. Their fielding was atrocious. And every bowler bowled badly in this match. Every batsman in the Netherlands squad played very well. I would say West Indies are not fit to play in the World Cup. The condition of their squad is not good now. They should be more diligent. Instead of focusing only on the T20 format they should try to do well in ODI format as well.

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June 27, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
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One of the best teams in Asia was bowled out for just 245 runs against a team like Scotland. Scotland were beaten by Sri Lanka but their bottom line was that they bowled out Sri Lanka for 245 runs. Scotland this team we only see when we play World Cup Qualifiers other times we don't see this team playing friendly matches with any country. If Scotland had been playing series with big teams throughout the year, their cricket would have improved a lot by now. Since the 2015 World Cup, this team has started doing well in the World Cup Qualifiers since then if some money could have been spent behind this team then this team might have made it to the main stage of the World Cup without playing the qualifiers. The Scotland Cricket Board still has time to plan this team.

Sri Lankan batters have had a tough time, as their middle and lower order collapsed badly. They were bowled out just for 145 runs. However, this score did not put any trouble for them to win over Scotland, because of their impressive bowling. I must say that Scotland's reckless batting played a significant role in their defeat. I suppose if they exercised more patience, they could have put up a better fight. Scotland's bowling attack turned out to be quite impressive in today's match. Of-course they need to continue working on their game regularly to maintain a good level of performance. It is fact that playing more matches will certainly improve their gameplay and confidence levels. It's high time to ensure that every cricket-playing nation gets an adequate chance to play enough games. There should be no discrimination between big and small teams anymore.
Scotland lost against Sri Lanka mainly due to lack of adequate guidance. If they had not got the right direction like Sri Lanka, they might not have lost this match. Sri Lanka's middle order and lower order batsmen are not providing good batting support as you mentioned. Sri Lanka is a big name in cricket and there is no option to perform well to protect their reputation. If they avoid like this then what will they do in the main phase. They should identify the areas where they are doing badly and strengthen that area but in that respect I think Sri Lanka is indifferent because they are not doing anything about it. Sri Lanka must do better in batting. Sri Lanka batting as a professional team is not satisfied at all.
Most of the new teams will have this problem. Slowly the teams will understand and starts to play better cricket. Look at the performance from Ireland, already they're out of the World Cup and now they've made a good performance against UAE. The team should have kept its performance at the best in its previous matches to keep its hope of playing in the ODI World Cup. Sri Lanka is a strong team and it isn't easy for Scotland to win with simple guidance, it also requires more experience to be successful and win against big teams.

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June 28, 2023, 02:23:18 AM
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Is it confirmed that West Indies are virtually knocked out of the upcoming ODI world cup race?

What a drastic downfall if it actually true. First, they missed out last T-20 cup and now the ODI format as well. Who would've thought this scenario to one of the fine white cricket ball team?

Nothing is confirmed, but it looks so. At this point, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka are the two teams in Super-6 who have 4 points each. If they win just 2 of their 3 matches, then they are through. For Zimbabwe the matches are against Scotland, Sri Lanka and Oman. For Sri Lanka, the matches are against Zimbabwe, Netherlands and West Indies. West Indies need to win all of their remaining 3 matches and then hope that their net Run Rate gets a massive boost in the remaining matches. Oman looks like the weakest team in Super-6, while Scotland and Netherlands have so far proven their worth as a result of wins against test nations.

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June 28, 2023, 02:27:12 AM
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This season the weak teams are not able to strengthen their position at all. Scotland in particular lacked direction and strategy with not a single batting team staying on the field for long. However, Sri Lanka were vastly ahead in terms of intelligence and strategy and stayed on the field till 29 overs in Scotland but due to the high fall of wickets, they could not score more runs due to which they were forced to lose.
The Barrington team captain should use a slightly different strategy. Since Sri Lanka's runs were few, Scotland's victory is quite convenient, but if he had considered the wicket-keeping, Scotland could have won. Those who have performed well in previous matches but in front of Sri Lanka they batted and bowled like children. Barrington must mature those weak spots.

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June 28, 2023, 05:33:45 AM
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Sri Lankan team showed great performance in this match Sri Lanka vs Scotland. However, Sri Lanka played brilliantly to win by a huge margin of 81 runs and top the group points.
No doubt SiriLankan were far ahead from his opponent Scotland in term of bowling, batting strength and experience. But in the mid of the match SiriLankan team look in deep trouble till the dismissal of Chris Greaves, as because he was the only contender in lower order who can change the result, but anyway it's a Great fun to watch.
Official schedule of ICC ODI world cup has been released, one of the biggest clash of entire world cup between indopak will be played on 15th October in high Capacity Stadium in Ahmedabad. Let see who will make differences.....🥴😉

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June 28, 2023, 05:45:58 AM
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Sri Lankan team showed great performance in this match Sri Lanka vs Scotland. Sri Lanka is a strong team compared to Scotland and is ranked first in Group B with 8 points. Sri Lanka beat Scotland in today's match to increase their points by winning the match and topping the group. Scotland is second in group points but they did not perform well in today's match. However, Sri Lanka played brilliantly to win by a huge margin of 81 runs and top the group points. Sri Lanka bowlers took all the wickets for Scotland 163 runs and Scotland lost.
Sri Lanka are in good form and their playing techniques are very good.  If only Sri Lanka can play like this. Then Sri Lanka can reach much higher level in future. The batsmen and bowlers of the team have become very responsible. Has improved a lot especially in the field of bowling. Sri Lanka deserved to win this match against Scotland. Congratulations Sri Lanka Cricket Team



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Is it confirmed that West Indies are virtually knocked out of the upcoming ODI world cup race?

What a drastic downfall if it actually true. First, they missed out last T-20 cup and now the ODI format as well. Who would've thought this scenario to one of the fine white cricket ball team?
Damn. Am not really surprised that they lost against Netherlands(Super Over was insane), but I did not expect them to lose against Zimbabwe. They just keep going downhill as time passes across all formats.

The management and some players need to be changed completely asap across all formats in my opinion.

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Damn. Am not really surprised that they lost against Netherlands(Super Over was insane), but I did not expect them to lose against Zimbabwe. They just keep going downhill as time passes across all formats.

The management and some players need to be changed completely asap across all formats in my opinion.

There is no team bonding within the West Indies team and the players prioritize franchise leagues such as IPL over international matches. The way Logan van Beek scored 30 runs from that super over was unbelievable. And that too against Jason Holder, who is considered as one of the best bowlers at depth. Let's not forget the fact that Netherlands was playing with a second string side, as 8 of their regular players were taking part in the county championship. I think West Indies should stop playing international cricket and the players should rather focus on franchise T20.

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June 28, 2023, 07:52:13 AM
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Is it confirmed that West Indies are virtually knocked out of the upcoming ODI world cup race?

What a drastic downfall if it actually true. First, they missed out last T-20 cup and now the ODI format as well. Who would've thought this scenario to one of the fine white cricket ball team?

Nothing is confirmed, but it looks so. At this point, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka are the two teams in Super-6 who have 4 points each. If they win just 2 of their 3 matches, then they are through. For Zimbabwe the matches are against Scotland, Sri Lanka and Oman. For Sri Lanka, the matches are against Zimbabwe, Netherlands and West Indies. West Indies need to win all of their remaining 3 matches and then hope that their net Run Rate gets a massive boost in the remaining matches. Oman looks like the weakest team in Super-6, while Scotland and Netherlands have so far proven their worth as a result of wins against test nations.
So i guess with 4 points each Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka seem favorites.

For Windies to go through everything need to be perfect and a lot will depend on luck, which also may depend on other's result. Tbh really pissed off with the ICC, this qualification process displayed enough evidence that more teams are ready for white ball WC, be it T-20 or ODI.

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June 28, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
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Is it confirmed that West Indies are virtually knocked out of the upcoming ODI world cup race?

What a drastic downfall if it actually true. First, they missed out last T-20 cup and now the ODI format as well. Who would've thought this scenario to one of the fine white cricket ball team?

Nothing is confirmed, but it looks so. At this point, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka are the two teams in Super-6 who have 4 points each. If they win just 2 of their 3 matches, then they are through. For Zimbabwe the matches are against Scotland, Sri Lanka and Oman. For Sri Lanka, the matches are against Zimbabwe, Netherlands and West Indies. West Indies need to win all of their remaining 3 matches and then hope that their net Run Rate gets a massive boost in the remaining matches. Oman looks like the weakest team in Super-6, while Scotland and Netherlands have so far proven their worth as a result of wins against test nations.
So i guess with 4 points each Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka seem favorites.

For Windies to go through everything need to be perfect and a lot will depend on luck, which also may depend on other's result. Tbh really pissed off with the ICC, this qualification process displayed enough evidence that more teams are ready for white ball WC, be it T-20 or ODI.

@Sithara007 just few day’s ago I said let’s not celebrate WI win because they’re no longer the dominant force like they used to be and it seems my words kinda jinxed them because in their current scenario it’s extremely likely that they won’t qualify. @JSRAW out of curiosity has there been any signature campaigns (change org types) made by the fans to record their frustrations and demand changes from ICC because outside this forum I usually don’t see much noise on these topics.
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@JSRAW out of curiosity has there been any signature campaigns (change org types) made by the fans to record their frustrations and demand changes from ICC because outside this forum I usually don’t see much noise on these topics.
Unfortunately no.

A frustrated community is there but yeah not significant or powerful enough to make any dent or influence anything, they make noise now n then but no one listens to them lol. 

Then there is a casual community, they pop in when the former group starts screaming during such events (qualifications, revenue talk etc)

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June 28, 2023, 09:18:16 AM
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Sri Lankan team showed great performance in this match Sri Lanka vs Scotland. Sri Lanka is a strong team compared to Scotland and is ranked first in Group B with 8 points. Sri Lanka beat Scotland in today's match to increase their points by winning the match and topping the group. Scotland is second in group points but they did not perform well in today's match. However, Sri Lanka played brilliantly to win by a huge margin of 81 runs and top the group points. Sri Lanka bowlers took all the wickets for Scotland 163 runs and Scotland lost.
Sri Lanka are in good form and their playing techniques are very good.  If only Sri Lanka can play like this. Then Sri Lanka can reach much higher level in future. The batsmen and bowlers of the team have become very responsible. Has improved a lot especially in the field of bowling. Sri Lanka deserved to win this match against Scotland. Congratulations Sri Lanka Cricket Team

No doubt, team Sri Lanka is among the strongest teams in the group and they are giving their best to the matches they are playing. I was pretty sure that team Sri Lanka will out run team Scotland because the players in team Sri Lanka are more experienced on ground, and they give their best to the matches. The Scotland team is also getting better each match, but still they are far away from the levels of team Sri Lanka and team team Zimbabwe on ground. The next match between Sri Lanka and Netherlands will be a very interesting one, the Netherlands won its previous match in a way that was totally unexpected, and I'm quite sure that they will compete well against Sri Lanka as well. The next match is going to be a tough one, and I'm pretty sure that everyone will love that match.

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June 28, 2023, 11:13:07 AM
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The next match between Sri Lanka and Netherlands will be a very interesting one, the Netherlands won its previous match in a way that was totally unexpected, and I'm quite sure that they will compete well against Sri Lanka as well. The next match is going to be a tough one, and I'm pretty sure that everyone will love that match.
In the previous match of Srilanka vs Scotland I was thinking the same like you are thinking now. I was thinking that Scotland won the previous match and Srilanka made 245 runs which was not a big target because Scotland made 320 runs in its previous match. But Srilankan team is little bit stron and giving good performance in these qualifier matches. So still I hope Srilanka will win this match against Netherlands

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June 28, 2023, 02:27:15 PM
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The next match between Sri Lanka and Netherlands will be a very interesting one, the Netherlands won its previous match in a way that was totally unexpected, and I'm quite sure that they will compete well against Sri Lanka as well. The next match is going to be a tough one, and I'm pretty sure that everyone will love that match.
In the previous match of Srilanka vs Scotland I was thinking the same like you are thinking now. I was thinking that Scotland won the previous match and Srilanka made 245 runs which was not a big target because Scotland made 320 runs in its previous match. But Srilankan team is little bit stron and giving good performance in these qualifier matches. So still I hope Srilanka will win this match against Netherlands

The type of performance that the Netherlands has shown in the last match was simply incredible. And let’s not forget that the last match of the Netherlands was against West Indies. So I think the Netherlands is going to be very confident going into the next match against Sri Lanka. But I am still skeptical about Netherlands winning against Sri Lanka. Because the bowling lineup of Sri Lanka is better compared to West Indies. Sri Lankan team is better overall also when compared to the West Indies team. And so I am really not sure if the Netherlands are going to be able to win against Sri Lanka.

Also, remember that Sri Lanka is in pretty good form right now. Of course, Sri Lanka cannot underestimate the Nederlands after such a performance against the West Indies. But I still don’t see Sri Lanka losing against the Netherlands.



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June 28, 2023, 02:48:29 PM
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Unfortunately no.

A frustrated community is there but yeah not significant or powerful enough to make any dent or influence anything, they make noise now n then but no one listens to them lol. 

Then there is a casual community, they pop in when the former group starts screaming during such events (qualifications, revenue talk etc)

LOL.. no one really cares about ICC outside South Asia. In West Indies and England, cricket is getting less popular with every passing year and in case of latter the survival is now increasingly dependent on immigrants. And even in South Asian nations fans care only about their own national team and franchise T20 leagues. Interest in matches outside the matches by national team and local leagues such as IPL/PSL is close to zero. I was tracking the viewership during the super-over phase of West Indies vs Netherlands match on Hotstar. The peak viewership was somewhere around 200,000. This is around 1% of the viewership that you will get for an India vs Pakistan match.

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June 28, 2023, 02:51:32 PM
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It seems incredible to me that any team can be beaten after scoring 374 runs in 50 overs. The opponent Netherlands is not a strong team. West Indies lost this match due to their stupidity and poor performance. Their fielding was atrocious. And every bowler bowled badly in this match. Every batsman in the Netherlands squad played very well. I would say West Indies are not fit to play in the World Cup. The condition of their squad is not good now. They should be more diligent. Instead of focusing only on the T20 format they should try to do well in ODI format as well.
Any team can play well in their day on such an incredible sporting pitch. I am unsurprised that the Netherlands has tied the match in fifty overs. But I am surprised that they chose van Beek for the super over, and he did an incredible job. He is not even a top-order batsman. He is middle order, all-rounder. This guy smashed Holder and scored 30 runs in six balls.

West Indies relied on Charles and Shai hope to score 31 in six balls Unfortunately, they managed to score only eight runs and lost two wickets. Not even close to the Netherlands' score. This is where the Netherlands showed its power.

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