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November 15, 2025, 11:02:46 AM
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While I like Coach Tim as a legendary coach, he should changed his approach towards the so-called 'unwritten rule' (though might be too late to changed approach now as he's now aging and might be closed to retirement :p). Maybe in his prime period, that was always the approach by most coaches but he should understand that not all coaches are having a same mindset, where in fact, it's not an illegal approach in the first place.

Overreacting to the highest level. Quotient system is necessary especially PBA eliminations format is single round robin.

The game is not over until the final buzzer. For me that unwritten rule is a crap and I don't see how it becomes disrespectful. Smiley

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The game is not over until the final buzzer. For me that unwritten rule is a crap and I don't see how it becomes disrespectful. Smiley

We all have our own opinions here, but you know Tim Cone is a legend in the PBA. Coaches like him are respected. And for me, even though I understand the quotient system matters, I still think that shot wasn’t necessary anymore. They didn’t even make it at the buzzer, so Ginebra had no chance to answer with their own shot.

It just felt like adding insult to injury.

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November 15, 2025, 12:08:53 PM
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The game is not over until the final buzzer. For me that unwritten rule is a crap and I don't see how it becomes disrespectful. Smiley

We all have our own opinions here, but you know Tim Cone is a legend in the PBA. Coaches like him are respected. And for me, even though I understand the quotient system matters, I still think that shot wasn’t necessary anymore. They didn’t even make it at the buzzer, so Ginebra had no chance to answer with their own shot.

It just felt like adding insult to injury.

Just because a certain team were playing against a legendary coach, their competitors should follow the unwritten rule? Isn't it even more disrespectful that no competition until the end even the game was already decided? Coach Tim is a legendary and respected but for that approach by their competitors they are now disrespecting Coach Tim?

Ginebra is even lucky over Converge as they're getting the benefits of being an SMC team. Coach Tim should not cry over that unwritten rule. Even in NBA, that unwritten rule is even a crap for most bastkeball enthusiast. Check also those reactions in some local sports groups about that incident where most says Coach Tim should not overreact like that.

My opinion too.

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November 15, 2025, 12:31:42 PM
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The game is not over until the final buzzer. For me that unwritten rule is a crap and I don't see how it becomes disrespectful. Smiley

We all have our own opinions here, but you know Tim Cone is a legend in the PBA. Coaches like him are respected. And for me, even though I understand the quotient system matters, I still think that shot wasn’t necessary anymore. They didn’t even make it at the buzzer, so Ginebra had no chance to answer with their own shot.

It just felt like adding insult to injury.

Just because a certain team were playing against a legendary coach, their competitors should follow the unwritten rule? Isn't it even more disrespectful that no competition until the end even the game was already decided? Coach Tim is a legendary and respected but for that approach by their competitors they are now disrespecting Coach Tim?

Ginebra is even lucky over Converge as they're getting the benefits of being an SMC team. Coach Tim should not cry over that unwritten rule. Even in NBA, that unwritten rule is even a crap for most bastkeball enthusiast. Check also those reactions in some local sports groups about that incident where most says Coach Tim should not overreact like that.

My opinion too.

That’s just how he is, there’s nothing we can really do about his attitude. Even in the NBA there are unwritten rules, and since they’re not official, it depends on how the coach, the players, and the fans see it. No one’s really wrong here, we’re all just sharing opinions. And as fans, having different takes actually makes the league more interesting to watch.

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November 15, 2025, 12:39:45 PM
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The game is not over until the final buzzer. For me that unwritten rule is a crap and I don't see how it becomes disrespectful. Smiley

We all have our own opinions here, but you know Tim Cone is a legend in the PBA. Coaches like him are respected. And for me, even though I understand the quotient system matters, I still think that shot wasn’t necessary anymore. They didn’t even make it at the buzzer, so Ginebra had no chance to answer with their own shot.

It just felt like adding insult to injury.

Just because a certain team were playing against a legendary coach, their competitors should follow the unwritten rule? Isn't it even more disrespectful that no competition until the end even the game was already decided? Coach Tim is a legendary and respected but for that approach by their competitors they are now disrespecting Coach Tim?

Ginebra is even lucky over Converge as they're getting the benefits of being an SMC team. Coach Tim should not cry over that unwritten rule. Even in NBA, that unwritten rule is even a crap for most bastkeball enthusiast. Check also those reactions in some local sports groups about that incident where most says Coach Tim should not overreact like that.

My opinion too.

That’s just how he is, there’s nothing we can really do about his attitude. Even in the NBA there are unwritten rules, and since they’re not official, it depends on how the coach, the players, and the fans see it. No one’s really wrong here, we’re all just sharing opinions. And as fans, having different takes actually makes the league more interesting to watch.


In this confrence, every shot is a must, every points counts! Coach Tim knew that.
It was not a nice night for him as you can see before the match ends, before the last shot he is clapping at the ref.
adding all things up, he had a problem that night and a bad temper on that game.

For me!

that shot is good and must not harm Ginkings as they can do that also on their next games, the standing at the lower places are close,  GSM and Converge can have a triple tie with ROS or other teams.

That’s just how he is, there’s nothing we can really do about his attitude. Even in the NBA there are unwritten rules, and since they’re not official, it depends on how the coach, the players, and the fans see it. No one’s really wrong here, we’re all just sharing opinions. And as fans, having different takes actually makes the league more interesting to watch.

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November 15, 2025, 01:18:54 PM
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on their next games, the standing at the lower places are close,  GSM and Converge can have a triple tie with ROS or other teams.

These are what others didn't looked at before saying that 'play' is disrespectful for Coach Tim.

Top 6 are currently tightly closed at the standing and with that, every points is a must for a tie-breaking system thru game quotient.. With top teams having almost same W/L record, it's tough to secure at least Top 4 and at worst, even having the same standing at those at the top, some teams might end up on a Do Or Die scenario (if the same playoffs format will apply).

That quotient system will be an advantage if ever a tie happened.

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Anyone upset tonight because of TNT’s loss?

I think at one point they were up by 20, then still ended up losing in the end. ROS just kept pushing their run and beat TNT late.

Those who took the under must be pretty satisfied, since from the 1st to 3rd quarter the game was trending over, but in the 4th the scoring suddenly died.
Both teams only scored a total of 25 points in the 4th. Final was 91-89.

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November 15, 2025, 02:09:37 PM
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Anyone upset tonight because of TNT’s loss?

I think at one point they were up by 20, then still ended up losing in the end. ROS just kept pushing their run and beat TNT late.

Those who took the under must be pretty satisfied, since from the 1st to 3rd quarter the game was trending over, but in the 4th the scoring suddenly died.
Both teams only scored a total of 25 points in the 4th. Final was 91-89.
That was really disappointing, at some point you’d expect TNT already had this in the bag. Their offense was flowing, even the 4-point shots from Ray Nambatac were going in. But ROS really had that never-say-die attitude (kinda like Ginebra). They kept pushing the pace, and even when their shots weren’t dropping, they didn’t slow down or give up.

They basically owned the 4th quarter and ended up beating TNT. So that winning streak of TNT is over just like that.

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on their next games, the standing at the lower places are close,  GSM and Converge can have a triple tie with ROS or other teams.

These are what others didn't looked at before saying that 'play' is disrespectful for Coach Tim.

Top 6 are currently tightly closed at the standing and with that, every points is a must for a tie-breaking system thru game quotient.. With top teams having almost same W/L record, it's tough to secure at least Top 4 and at worst, even having the same standing at those at the top, some teams might end up on a Do Or Die scenario (if the same playoffs format will apply).

That quotient system will be an advantage if ever a tie happened.

Considering that reason since the tie-breaking system is really important as for converge they need to secure that top 4 to have the advantage that's why they need every points to increase their chance, while for Ginebra, we know the never say die attitude if given a chance whoever the opponents they will do their best to move forward, another game to accept the outcome and be strong on the next following game.

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Today there is an interesting match between the current PBA leaders, T and T Tropang Giga, and Rains or Shine. This will certainly be an exciting match
yes indeed it was an exciting match as ROS defeated the TNT after being down by a big deficit..

because Rains or Shine is currently ranked 6th, only one loss behind,
They were but but tied with rank 2 to 5 and now they hold the number 1 after that win.
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Watch out for Ginebra later tonight. This might be a bounce-back game and they’ll probably try to come out strong.
I have a feeling they’ll win and cover this since Phoenix isn’t really a good defensive team, so they should be able to just demolish them. I’m watching the first game now and it looks like it’s another out-of-town venue again, so it’ll probably be another low-scoring game.

So if you’re planning to bet, prepare your balance. Spread is at -8.5 right now, take it while it’s still low because it’ll likely move, especially since it’s Sunday and a lot of fans will be in the arena to support their favorite team.

Its quite questionable why the line drop to -6.5, could it be a trap here?
anyway, don't get deceived....

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November 16, 2025, 10:24:36 AM
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Watch out for Ginebra later tonight. This might be a bounce-back game and they’ll probably try to come out strong.
So if you’re planning to bet, prepare your balance. Spread is at -8.5 right now, take it while it’s still low because it’ll likely move, especially since it’s Sunday and a lot of fans will be in the arena to support their favorite team.

Got mine at -7.5 @1.89 for Ginebra as i think they can't afford anymore loss as they are already in the bottom of the standings. Phoenix is also struggling so i think the Gin Kings will have no problem defeating them and entertain the crowd. Don't know the reason why the spread is moving downwards, maybe there are people who put a lot of money on Phoenix.


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November 16, 2025, 12:23:57 PM
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Got mine at -7.5 @1.89 for Ginebra as i think they can't afford anymore loss as they are already in the bottom of the standings. Phoenix is also struggling so i think the Gin Kings will have no problem defeating them and entertain the crowd. Don't know the reason why the spread is moving downwards, maybe there are people who put a lot of money on Phoenix.
I’m with you on that pick kabayan. Been hoping Ginebra wins too so I took the line, even if it’s a bit high, but I really believe they can cover it easily.

The first game I lost my bet since NLEX didn’t cover, I took -9.5 trying to get better odds, but that game was close from the 1st to 3rd. In the 4th, Titan’s offense just collapsed.
I’m hoping to recover that loss by winning the 2nd game. hope Ginebra pulls this one off for me.

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Ginebra could’ve easily pulled away in this game, but Phoenix came back and cut it down to single digits.
The first half line at -8.5 was still worth taking IMO.

Now we’re in the 3rd quarter, this is where Ginebra needs to tighten their defense so they can build a comfortable lead heading into the 4th. They’re known for their defense, so they should be showing it here. Good luck to your bets guys.  Smiley

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November 16, 2025, 01:19:25 PM
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Titan can really blind some strong teams. They are ties with NLEX at the end of 3rd Quarter! they even mange to lead by 1 point at the half.
But the fourth quarter was a show for Bolick and the Nlex warriors.

GinKings is now leading by 7!

Ginebra could’ve easily pulled away in this game, but Phoenix came back and cut it down to single digits.
The first half line at -8.5 was still worth taking IMO.

Now we’re in the 3rd quarter, this is where Ginebra needs to tighten their defense so they can build a comfortable lead heading into the 4th. They’re known for their defense, so they should be showing it here. Good luck to your bets guys.  Smiley

They should have a run! Phoenix is a team with good def and offense. If Ginkings will not go stronger they can end the game with an L!

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November 16, 2025, 04:10:19 PM
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Watch out for Ginebra later tonight. This might be a bounce-back game and they’ll probably try to come out strong.
So if you’re planning to bet, prepare your balance. Spread is at -8.5 right now, take it while it’s still low because it’ll likely move, especially since it’s Sunday and a lot of fans will be in the arena to support their favorite team.

Got mine at -7.5 @1.89 for Ginebra as i think they can't afford anymore loss as they are already in the bottom of the standings. Phoenix is also struggling so i think the Gin Kings will have no problem defeating them and entertain the crowd. Don't know the reason why the spread is moving downwards, maybe there are people who put a lot of money on Phoenix.



Gin kings managed to cover that handicap! Congrats again Kabayan! 9 point deficits for Gin kings for winning the game enough to cover the handicap for those who place their bet when it's still @-8.5 for sure it's a heart-breaking just a single point for Phoenix and that pick will be mess up, good thing that Ginebra manage to keep that distance.

For sure those fans who take their tickets and spend time to watch the game really enjoyed how Gin kings play the system and entertain all their supporters!

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November 16, 2025, 09:34:45 PM
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Gin kings managed to cover that handicap! Congrats again Kabayan! 9 point deficits for Gin kings for winning the game enough to cover the handicap for those who place their bet when it's still @-8.5 for sure it's a heart-breaking just a single point for Phoenix and that pick will be mess up, good thing that Ginebra manage to keep that distance.

For sure those fans who take their tickets and spend time to watch the game really enjoyed how Gin kings play the system and entertain all their supporters!

That was a crazy run in the 4th. I honestly thought Ginebra wouldn’t be able to cover because it was getting too close. Phoenix even took the lead at one point. And that wild foul at the end basically saved the spread. Troy didn’t even need to make both shots, just one was enough to cash our tickets.

Nice game… I’d say that one was a lucky bet.

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November 17, 2025, 12:38:09 AM
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Gin kings managed to cover that handicap! Congrats again Kabayan! 9 point deficits for Gin kings for winning the game enough to cover the handicap for those who place their bet when it's still @-8.5 for sure it's a heart-breaking just a single point for Phoenix and that pick will be mess up, good thing that Ginebra manage to keep that distance.

For sure those fans who take their tickets and spend time to watch the game really enjoyed how Gin kings play the system and entertain all their supporters!

Thanks, kabayan! That was one heck of a game. I actually stopped watching when the score was tied at 91 with three minutes left in the fourth quarter—I figured even if Ginebra won, they wouldn’t cover the spread. But lucky for those who bet on Ginebra, Phoenix got sloppy and didn’t score a single basket in that final stretch. It just goes to show that no matter how knowledgeable you are in sports betting, if luck isn’t on your side, you can still lose. Fortunately for us last night, luck was on our side—and we cashed in Smiley.
 

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November 17, 2025, 12:56:20 AM
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Fortunately for us last night, luck was on our side—and we cashed in Smiley.
 


Definitely that was it. Ginebra should be using RJ more because he’s consistent with his shooting -  those 3-point shots were a big reason they were able to come back. Though we can’t deny he’s a liability on defense, they just need to find a way to cover that weakness. If he’s not on the floor, Ginebra’s offense struggles too, so they really have to balance it out.

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November 17, 2025, 12:48:58 PM
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Definitely that was it. Ginebra should be using RJ more because he’s consistent with his shooting -  those 3-point shots were a big reason they were able to come back. Though we can’t deny he’s a liability on defense, they just need to find a way to cover that weakness. If he’s not on the floor, Ginebra’s offense struggles too, so they really have to balance it out.

He’s a lifesaver in a lot of Ginebra games because he doesn’t panic and he can create his own offense. That’s why you can see Tim Cone really trusts him even if he’s not a great defender. Without him, I honestly think Ginebra would’ve lost that game already.

PBA is on a long break now, so hopefully when they resume, Ginebra can fix this weakness because they’re really low in the standings.

They’re at 8th right now, and if they stay there it’s a disadvantage as they’ll need to win twice just to beat the team above them in the bracket during the elimination.
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