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October 13, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Lol that's not the case at all xD although luck chooses whoever it wanna be on the side of, it doesn't take time to swtich sides! Maybe your friends try to control their bets upto the point they need it and not play continuously as if they did that, the house edge will kill all money no matter the good luck!
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October 13, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.
I don't think so because luck will not come to all the people who work or make a living from gambling.
Luck will come only at the right time and in the right place, and of course, luck will come to the right person too.
Even if that person tries to master the game, it doesn't mean the luck will come to him because it's not like that the luck works.
The luck will come if you deserve to get the luck and you are the right person to get those luck.
Many gamblers are trying to get their luck, but unfortunately, the luck will not appear to them, so that makes them lose the money.
Maybe your friend has better luck than the other friends so he can win the game.
But I don't think he can always win the games because luck will not always come to him.

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October 13, 2019, 02:18:52 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.
I don't think so because luck will not come to all the people who work or make a living from gambling.
Luck will come only at the right time and in the right place, and of course, luck will come to the right person too.
Even if that person tries to master the game, it doesn't mean the luck will come to him because it's not like that the luck works.
The luck will come if you deserve to get the luck and you are the right person to get those luck.
Many gamblers are trying to get their luck, but unfortunately, the luck will not appear to them, so that makes them lose the money.
Maybe your friend has better luck than the other friends so he can win the game.
But I don't think he can always win the games because luck will not always come to him.

Well, even if the player is extremely lucky, and luck comes o him all the time, he will still lose in the long run because the house edge will eat the bets soon. Math always win in game of math vs luck xD
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October 13, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Are you serious about this?

Luck is invisible, you can't predict whether this person will get lucky or not because it's very random. Even you're full of hard work and put so much effort into your passion, if there's no luck then you will still strive more to get another luck. Winning and being successful in gambling is pure luck, no one can get a winning streak in the whole year unless the person is cheating or controlling the house.

You didn't consider the other factors your friend has so he/she keeps winning. It's not about luck, it's your idea and strategy also but luck has the huge factor of winning.
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October 13, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
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Very interesting topic. Tell me im too old school however I still believe that gambling is still a win of luck.
Similar with trading its not always a winning trade even though you are a professional trader. Smiley
No doubt that gambling is still a case of luck. From luck I meant to say about good luck only because bad luck has no role to play in case of gambling. If someone tries to carry on with bad luck despite his or her bad luck, then I think it’s totally something that wouldn’t last long. So gambling is only the matter of luck and if even the whole world starts saying that this is wrong, it can never change.
I agree with you in gambling is about luck but don't forget that luck and skill both has to Carry. If you have good luck and you have abilities to play a game well you will win and then after your effort your luck will help you. With out anything else you can't only rely on luck. One have to have good skills to play well in gambling.
When you have luck, even if you don't play the game well you'll be winning. This is the truth of luck, when you are playing depending upon the skills you've gathered it is a must to have some luck. Because to study the scripts of each and every gambling site is a hard thing. We can make calculations and play, but the luck is the one that gets us with the winning on the amount risked.

There are people who consider it to be a profession. From my experience as a gambler it is hard to be a professional gambler, you need to have patience, patience, patience. If you have that somehow you can earn, if not at least you can get rid of the losses.
All those who are true gamblers they are truly aware of this fact that gambling is a game that does not need any physical strength or mental strategies. There is no way you can become a hero in gambling because of your skills etc. this is simply your luck either taking you to heights of success or depths of failures. This is why it is often said that do not treat gambling as a main source of money.
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October 13, 2019, 04:12:12 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Are you serious about this?

Luck is invisible, you can't predict whether this person will get lucky or not because it's very random. Even you're full of hard work and put so much effort into your passion, if there's no luck then you will still strive more to get another luck. Winning and being successful in gambling is pure luck, no one can get a winning streak in the whole year unless the person is cheating or controlling the house.

You didn't consider the other factors your friend has so he/she keeps winning. It's not about luck, it's your idea and strategy also but luck has the huge factor of winning.


Luck is a natural phenomenon that could happen to all of us and yes, it is indeed random. It is not luck anymore if you master gambling or became a professional gambler, it is what we called "skill" that could bring us fortune in playing gambling, but winning and being successful is not pure luck, maybe sometimes, but it's not always, because every time we play and lose, we learn, and we use those every lessons we learned in gambling to win profits.
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October 13, 2019, 06:42:33 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Are you serious about this?

Luck is invisible, you can't predict whether this person will get lucky or not because it's very random. Even you're full of hard work and put so much effort into your passion, if there's no luck then you will still strive more to get another luck. Winning and being successful in gambling is pure luck, no one can get a winning streak in the whole year unless the person is cheating or controlling the house.

You didn't consider the other factors your friend has so he/she keeps winning. It's not about luck, it's your idea and strategy also but luck has the huge factor of winning.


Luck is a natural phenomenon that could happen to all of us and yes, it is indeed random. It is not luck anymore if you master gambling or became a professional gambler, it is what we called "skill" that could bring us fortune in playing gambling, but winning and being successful is not pure luck, maybe sometimes, but it's not always, because every time we play and lose, we learn, and we use those every lessons we learned in gambling to win profits.
Totally sure about it a good gambler know this that it’s not good to rely only on your luck but for making good profit from your investment you people will have to work hard and get know the game, polish your skills about gambling. To become a professional gambler we must have 50/50 luck/skills and knowledge about casino.
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October 14, 2019, 07:09:55 AM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.
That is not how it works Cheesy. Do you mean that luck will be picky and will pick those people who make living from gambling income Cheesy.

Luck isn't picky if you know, it will be on random people whether making a living from gambling income or not. Maybe it happens to your close friends but don't generalize it and saying that all people will experience what your close friends did Cheesy

 
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October 14, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income
Luck comes at any time that it can. There's no way to be it will always be to every gambler from time to time. If luck stays most often, what casino will profit? and most of the gamblers will win if that's the case.

Luck doesn't choose people, working or doing it for living. There are gamblers that do it for few times and they become lucky. Even the people who are doing it for daily life are even experiencing losing.

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October 14, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
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Well, even if the player is extremely lucky, and luck comes o him all the time, he will still lose in the long run because the house edge will eat the bets soon. Math always win in game of math vs luck xD

And what math is telling you exactly? If you think that it's telling that no one can be in profit from gambling, say, 30 years in a row, you are wrong, my friend. Math can only tell that the vast majority, say 99.99999% of gamblers, can't be that lucky for so long. But there are 7.7 billion people in the world, and with this number of tries almost anything is possible. That's why we have so called "professional gamblers" who, supposedly, know how to win, and that's why we have "saints" who, supposedly, perform miracles, etc.

In short, math can only tell you that a gambler will most likely lose in the long run, but the same math can tell you that there is a chance, although extremely small one, that he/she will never lose.

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October 14, 2019, 04:59:53 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income
Luck comes at any time that it can. There's no way to be it will always be to every gambler from time to time. If luck stays most often, what casino will profit? and most of the gamblers will win if that's the case.

Luck doesn't choose people, working or doing it for living. There are gamblers that do it for few times and they become lucky. Even the people who are doing it for daily life are even experiencing losing.

have you ever heard about the 4 kinds of luck discussed by Naval?
it's really interesting subject:

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The 4 types of luck, in cliches:

1. Dumb luck (random)

2. Fortune favors the bold (action)

3. Chance favors the prepared mind (preparation)

4. Extreme people get extreme results (unique action)

source:
https://twitter.com/nivi/status/1094940675353784320

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Ways to get lucky:

• Hope luck finds you.

• Hustle until you stumble into it.

• Prepare the mind and be sensitive to chances others miss.

• Become the best at what you do. Refine what you do until this is true. Opportunity will seek you out. Luck becomes your destiny.

source:
https://twitter.com/naval/status/1093981014920052736

more here:
https://podcastnotes.org/2019/03/10/naval-nivi-5/

so,there's luck that finds you, but you can also work on something and learn how to be luckier.

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October 14, 2019, 06:50:24 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Are you serious about this?

Luck is invisible, you can't predict whether this person will get lucky or not because it's very random. Even you're full of hard work and put so much effort into your passion, if there's no luck then you will still strive more to get another luck. Winning and being successful in gambling is pure luck, no one can get a winning streak in the whole year unless the person is cheating or controlling the house.

You didn't consider the other factors your friend has so he/she keeps winning. It's not about luck, it's your idea and strategy also but luck has the huge factor of winning.


Luck is a natural phenomenon that could happen to all of us and yes, it is indeed random. It is not luck anymore if you master gambling or became a professional gambler, it is what we called "skill" that could bring us fortune in playing gambling, but winning and being successful is not pure luck, maybe sometimes, but it's not always, because every time we play and lose, we learn, and we use those every lessons we learned in gambling to win profits.
Not only gambling but all games that we play are controlled by two important factors i.e. luck and skills about that game. The history of sports is full of incidences when luck came into action and made people victorious and vice versa. There are also numerous cases where people won because of their skills. So in short, we shall master the game and then rely on luck.
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October 14, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
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have you ever heard about the 4 kinds of luck discussed by Naval?
it's really interesting subject:

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The 4 types of luck, in cliches:

1. Dumb luck (random)

2. Fortune favors the bold (action)

3. Chance favors the prepared mind (preparation)

4. Extreme people get extreme results (unique action)

source:
https://twitter.com/nivi/status/1094940675353784320

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Ways to get lucky:

• Hope luck finds you.

• Hustle until you stumble into it.

• Prepare the mind and be sensitive to chances others miss.

• Become the best at what you do. Refine what you do until this is true. Opportunity will seek you out. Luck becomes your destiny.

source:
https://twitter.com/naval/status/1093981014920052736

more here:
https://podcastnotes.org/2019/03/10/naval-nivi-5/

so,there's luck that finds you, but you can also work on something and learn how to be luckier.

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I haven't heard about that but for someone who doesn't have technical knowledge about those different kinds of luck will understand that it's not with us all of the time. The problem starts if you keep on hustling and nothing ever happened finding your luck.

This gives false hope to the gambler and this can lead someone to become being broke.

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October 15, 2019, 03:16:53 AM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.

Are you serious about this?

Luck is invisible, you can't predict whether this person will get lucky or not because it's very random. Even you're full of hard work and put so much effort into your passion, if there's no luck then you will still strive more to get another luck. Winning and being successful in gambling is pure luck, no one can get a winning streak in the whole year unless the person is cheating or controlling the house.

You didn't consider the other factors your friend has so he/she keeps winning. It's not about luck, it's your idea and strategy also but luck has the huge factor of winning.


Luck is a natural phenomenon that could happen to all of us and yes, it is indeed random. It is not luck anymore if you master gambling or became a professional gambler, it is what we called "skill" that could bring us fortune in playing gambling, but winning and being successful is not pure luck, maybe sometimes, but it's not always, because every time we play and lose, we learn, and we use those every lessons we learned in gambling to win profits.
Not only gambling but all games that we play are controlled by two important factors i.e. luck and skills about that game. The history of sports is full of incidences when luck came into action and made people victorious and vice versa. There are also numerous cases where people won because of their skills. So in short, we shall master the game and then rely on luck.

Agree with you say. Actually in gambling we can't just rely on luck alone, without any skill and strategy when playing. The luck factor also cannot always be expected when gambling, because it really doesn't always come. It's always better to add skills to each game than to expect to play with luck.
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October 15, 2019, 04:46:09 AM
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Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

I think there are and they are many of them like casino operators, dealers, and usher they make a living out of the gambling industry, but if it is only in playing gambling, I don't think they are that many, because it's hard to make a living out of gambling alone, it's a game of luck that even gamblers have no control of, it takes to become a god of gambler to make a living out of gambling.
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October 15, 2019, 04:58:32 AM
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Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

I think there are and they are many of them like casino operators, dealers, and usher they make a living out of the gambling industry, but if it is only in playing gambling, I don't think they are that many, because it's hard to make a living out of gambling alone, it's a game of luck that even gamblers have no control of, it takes to become a god of gambler to make a living out of gambling.

For people who are not playing gambling, but they work in the gambling industry, they can make a living from gambling. But for people who are playing gambling, they are hard to make a living. They will face experiences to get lost many times because they really need to have luck. The luck itself will not come to them every day so that will makes them have to lose the money.

We talk in the general of gambling games and not for specific of the games. Although there is a chance for poker player or sports betting which can make a living from that type of gambling, that still is difficult for ordinary people who don't have so many experiences to make a living from gambling.
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October 15, 2019, 06:26:31 AM
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Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.
Maybe there are some?? A few professional gamblers but they are not revealing themselves for security purposes Cheesy.

I can't blame those gamblers who wants to live out of gambling but for me it is the worst decision a person can make. Many knows that gambling is the riskiest investment and they want to live out of it. If you really want to then you need a huge capital to live.

 
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October 15, 2019, 01:53:42 PM
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I can't blame those gamblers who wants to live out of gambling but for me it is the worst decision a person can make. Many knows that gambling is the riskiest investment and they want to live out of it. If you really want to then you need a huge capital to live.
Gambling isn't even an investment. Who is so st*pid to say if gambling is one of investment? It's different story if you are telling about investment in gambling / casino. Even if you have huge bankroll, it doesn't make you never / can't lose in gambling, you will likely lose more if you try with huge money in gambling because of your greediness.

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October 15, 2019, 06:31:44 PM
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Very interesting topic. Tell me im too old school however I still believe that gambling is still a win of luck.
Similar with trading its not always a winning trade even though you are a professional trader. Smiley
Luck will always play a factor in everything we do and that is even more true in gambling but make no mistake there are some games in which your skill can affect the outcome as well and it is in those games where professional gamblers make their money, but before you or anyone else tries to become a professional gambler you need to understand the difficulty of it.

While I do not have stats it is safe to say that the majority of gamblers lose money when they gamble and one of the most important factors is their lack of control, as soon as they lose they begin to bet more in an attempt to recover their money and this only makes them to lose even faster and professional gamblers are experts at controlling those self-destructive impulses.
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October 15, 2019, 10:26:23 PM
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Luck will always be on the side of those who work or make a living from gambling income, because they will try to master the game and will continue to play to earn income for their needs, and this happens to my close friends and even he has more income than me who has permanent work.
and as long as he enjoys and always earns income from gambling he will continue to play, and only God will change it because it has become his way and plan and there will be a good time to change it at the right time.
That is not how it works Cheesy. Do you mean that luck will be picky and will pick those people who make living from gambling income Cheesy.

Luck isn't picky if you know, it will be on random people whether making a living from gambling income or not. Maybe it happens to your close friends but don't generalize it and saying that all people will experience what your close friends did Cheesy
Luck has to do nothing with the mode of earning you are using to make money. We shall understand that even when we are earning money through illegal means, luck can be with us and vice versa. I also support this concept that it showers blessings on random people. There are no tricks or tactics of attracting luck.
We could say there are no tricks or tactics about luck but people believe it so and keep believing in all times no matter how they get hard into winning.
I know luck isn't for everyone but gamblers never get tired of chasing it. But a little bit disappointing to see people never realize how gambling works. It may be for some reasons, to become an instant millionaire because of the big jackpot prize, I believe it was in their mind and that is probably the reason of being in the gambling, not just for fun.
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