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February 24, 2021, 10:07:54 PM
 #1181

As far as I know, only about 1% of the players are profitable when playing at the betting sites, all the rest lose money and remain at a loss.
I think 1% is too low. Although it's uncommon to make profit from gambling the real percentage must be higher, otherwise it wouldn't be an interesting activity for many gamblers:
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The researchers found similar patterns: Only 13.5% of gamblers ended up winning, versus 11% among Bwin* customers, and the ratios of big losers to big winners were similarly large.
*Bwin is a major european online gambling concern which runs gambling sites. The results aren't recent, but they give some idea of gambling statistics.

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February 24, 2021, 10:24:47 PM
 #1182

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
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February 24, 2021, 10:41:09 PM
 #1183

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
For better understand try to check out videos in youtube and search "sports investing" or "making money in sports betting". You'll see a lot of videos explaining how it's possible, and this is actually possible but the chances are very low since the majority are not making money in sports, they are losing or spending money, you are exceptional if you belong to the ones who are actually making money.
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February 24, 2021, 11:28:05 PM
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I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
Yes they are called professional gamblers, their main or only source of income comes from gambling, they are like professional traders. That doesn't exist in your country? How would you call them?

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February 25, 2021, 08:15:42 PM
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As far as I know, only about 1% of the players are profitable when playing at the betting sites, all the rest lose money and remain at a loss.

That's a very small percentage, it means casinos are filthy reach because of that percentage.
I'm not sure with the percentage, no one can tell actually, even the casinos themselves but one thing is sure, most of us are losing money in a casino.

These people who tried to make gambling as their profession are more like experience gamblers who think they can win in the long run.
It's very opposite of what typical gamblers think as they usually think of short term profit, that's why they loss most of the time.

just adding to your comments:
the thing with casinos is that they'll make money anyway, the house always wins, even when profitable gambles are playing games that depends more on skill than on pure luck, casinos won't be the ones losing a lot on the long run.

Exactly, because looking at the percentage, even if their winning rate is 60% over the overall gamblers, they are still making money, the higher the winning rate the more they'll make money, and in sports betting, there's always a commission they'll make on a winning bet, it's not necessary that they are the ones taking the bet but just a facilitator for gamblers.

but what are your opinions on the matter of sports betting?
any skill involved?
to me feels like it's simpy pure luck, but I'm not the biggest sports connoisseur

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February 25, 2021, 10:16:51 PM
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As far as I know, only about 1% of the players are profitable when playing at the betting sites, all the rest lose money and remain at a loss.

That's a very small percentage, it means casinos are filthy reach because of that percentage.
I'm not sure with the percentage, no one can tell actually, even the casinos themselves but one thing is sure, most of us are losing money in a casino.

These people who tried to make gambling as their profession are more like experience gamblers who think they can win in the long run.
It's very opposite of what typical gamblers think as they usually think of short term profit, that's why they loss most of the time.

just adding to your comments:
the thing with casinos is that they'll make money anyway, the house always wins, even when profitable gambles are playing games that depends more on skill than on pure luck, casinos won't be the ones losing a lot on the long run.

Exactly, because looking at the percentage, even if their winning rate is 60% over the overall gamblers, they are still making money, the higher the winning rate the more they'll make money, and in sports betting, there's always a commission they'll make on a winning bet, it's not necessary that they are the ones taking the bet but just a facilitator for gamblers.

but what are your opinions on the matter of sports betting?
any skill involved?
to me feels like it's simpy pure luck, but I'm not the biggest sports connoisseur
Sports betting needs skills to win although luck helps a lot but you only need to develop your skills so you can win consistently in the long run. If a sports bettor does not believe that skills can help them win, then they would not experiment to improve their skills and just rely on mere guts since in their minds this is just a luck based game.

There's a big difference between luck based games and skilled based games, and for me, I considered sports betting as a skilled based game.

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February 25, 2021, 11:37:46 PM
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Sports betting or casinos can be considered as source of income for living, but the bitter truth, it requires patience and shouldn't go out of control. Most of the time people loss out of gambling due to emotional failure. This means people slowly make an earning, and by the end of the day due to greed of making big money and lack of self control empties the Wallet within minutes.

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February 26, 2021, 12:45:07 AM
 #1188

As far as I know, only about 1% of the players are profitable when playing at the betting sites, all the rest lose money and remain at a loss.

That's a very small percentage, it means casinos are filthy reach because of that percentage.
I'm not sure with the percentage, no one can tell actually, even the casinos themselves but one thing is sure, most of us are losing money in a casino.

These people who tried to make gambling as their profession are more like experience gamblers who think they can win in the long run.
It's very opposite of what typical gamblers think as they usually think of short term profit, that's why they loss most of the time.

just adding to your comments:
the thing with casinos is that they'll make money anyway, the house always wins, even when profitable gambles are playing games that depends more on skill than on pure luck, casinos won't be the ones losing a lot on the long run.

Exactly, because looking at the percentage, even if their winning rate is 60% over the overall gamblers, they are still making money, the higher the winning rate the more they'll make money, and in sports betting, there's always a commission they'll make on a winning bet, it's not necessary that they are the ones taking the bet but just a facilitator for gamblers.

but what are your opinions on the matter of sports betting?
any skill involved?
to me feels like it's simpy pure luck, but I'm not the biggest sports connoisseur
Sports betting needs skills to win although luck helps a lot but you only need to develop your skills so you can win consistently in the long run. If a sports bettor does not believe that skills can help them win, then they would not experiment to improve their skills and just rely on mere guts since in their minds this is just a luck based game.

There's a big difference between luck based games and skilled based games, and for me, I considered sports betting as a skilled based game.

I agree with you, I think that sports betting already escapes a bit from what is about the casino's profits and leaves behind the "house always wins" a bit. Being more specific to be able to live from sports betting is a life that always manages pure adrenaline, unless micro-bets are made and you do not live from it, in the same way it is a risky life, with more chances of winning than those of win at a casino.

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February 26, 2021, 02:37:56 AM
 #1189

Sports betting or casinos can be considered as source of income for living, but the bitter truth, it requires patience and shouldn't go out of control. Most of the time people loss out of gambling due to emotional failure. This means people slowly make an earning, and by the end of the day due to greed of making big money and lack of self control empties the Wallet within minutes.
It can be. But not many people can be wise to use sports betting or casinos as their source of income because they want to win more after one or two wins on sports betting.
If they can hold their emotion from becoming greedy, they can use sports betting as a source of income, but they still manage their bankroll carefully.
It will no problem if they are slowly earning from sports betting because they will see that their income will become bigger, and once it becomes bigger, they should very carefully.

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February 26, 2021, 03:05:32 AM
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Sports betting or casinos can be considered as source of income for living, but the bitter truth, it requires patience and shouldn't go out of control. Most of the time people loss out of gambling due to emotional failure. This means people slowly make an earning, and by the end of the day due to greed of making big money and lack of self control empties the Wallet within minutes.
It can be. But not many people can be wise to use sports betting or casinos as their source of income because they want to win more after one or two wins on sports betting.
If they can hold their emotion from becoming greedy, they can use sports betting as a source of income, but they still manage their bankroll carefully.
It will no problem if they are slowly earning from sports betting because they will see that their income will become bigger, and once it becomes bigger, they should very carefully.

It's true that people can make gambling a source of income to live, but the problem is only a few people are able to control their emotions so as not
to be greedy. Because if we can't control greed, instead of being a source of income, gambling can be a source of trouble. Because those who
cannot control their emotions can become addicted. Will definitely have financial problems and his life will be ruined. So my advice is to keep our mind
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February 26, 2021, 03:21:43 AM
 #1191

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
There really are people who are living with their lives as professional gamblers. You probably haven't discovered about those professionals that have to make themselves wealthy in this industry.

They are skilled that what you can imagine although just as the same as us, they still lose yet they're wiser than us.


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February 26, 2021, 01:04:42 PM
 #1192

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
There really are people who are living with their lives as professional gamblers. You probably haven't discovered about those professionals that have to make themselves wealthy in this industry.

They are skilled that what you can imagine although just as the same as us, they still lose yet they're wiser than us.

I don't know one personally but I believe there are people who are making a living in sports betting.

Just try to analyze why sports betting industry is one of the most profitable in gambling industry, that's because lots of people believe that they can make good money in sports with their knowledge and at the same time they also believe that there are people who are really making a living on it.

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February 26, 2021, 06:14:21 PM
 #1193

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
There really are people who are living with their lives as professional gamblers. You probably haven't discovered about those professionals that have to make themselves wealthy in this industry.

They are skilled that what you can imagine although just as the same as us, they still lose yet they're wiser than us.

I don't know one personally but I believe there are people who are making a living in sports betting.

Just try to analyze why sports betting industry is one of the most profitable in gambling industry, that's because lots of people believe that they can make good money in sports with their knowledge and at the same time they also believe that there are people who are really making a living on it.
There are.

There's no doubt about that.

And in other skilled games, as long as they can learn the game on their own and have a strategy or went through tough experiences just to take the game in their minds, no doubt that they can.

And they know how risky it is too to depend on this kind of living.


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February 26, 2021, 09:22:07 PM
 #1194

I really don't understand how it works?
For people to be living there life's out of a guessed game and call it a profession. I'm confused!
Is this topic real and really applies to people that share this same earth as me...
There really are people who are living with their lives as professional gamblers. You probably haven't discovered about those professionals that have to make themselves wealthy in this industry.
They are skilled that what you can imagine although just as the same as us, they still lose yet they're wiser than us.
I don't know one personally but I believe there are people who are making a living in sports betting.
Just try to analyze why sports betting industry is one of the most profitable in gambling industry, that's because lots of people believe that they can make good money in sports with their knowledge and at the same time they also believe that there are people who are really making a living on it.
There are.
There's no doubt about that.
And in other skilled games, as long as they can learn the game on their own and have a strategy or went through tough experiences just to take the game in their minds, no doubt that they can.
And they know how risky it is too to depend on this kind of living.
well, if you ask me I go with BevNation as living with a gambling life to sustain your needs is a bit off to believe. Maybe in real life that could be a fact but here in Online gambling? that's a big question for me I suppose as I don't play a lot maybe I just don't see it well. Still I think if you're an owner that could count or maybe your a beater/cheater then it could be also possible. Besides if we say 50-50, strategies doesn't really work IMO, so it really might be strange to find someone who gets a living out of this Online Casinos.
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February 26, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
 #1195

I don't know one personally but I believe there are people who are making a living in sports betting.

Just try to analyze why sports betting industry is one of the most profitable in gambling industry, that's because lots of people believe that they can make good money in sports with their knowledge and at the same time they also believe that there are people who are really making a living on it.

Based on the income of the bookmakers, the pursuit of dreams is too expensive for the players  Grin
But in reality I think most players treat it as just entertainment (and usually people spend money on entertainment without expecting any return). Unfortunately, there are also really dependent people, but they are a minority.

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February 26, 2021, 10:46:54 PM
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I don't know one personally but I believe there are people who are making a living in sports betting.

Just try to analyze why sports betting industry is one of the most profitable in gambling industry, that's because lots of people believe that they can make good money in sports with their knowledge and at the same time they also believe that there are people who are really making a living on it.

Based on the income of the bookmakers, the pursuit of dreams is too expensive for the players  Grin
But in reality I think most players treat it as just entertainment (and usually people spend money on entertainment without expecting any return). Unfortunately, there are also really dependent people, but they are a minority.

I would like to assume that they are making money in gambling because they are dependent on it. However, I think still majority of those who are seriously engaging in gambling are losing money, they don't really just gamble for sole entertainment as they are putting serious bets and that makes the bookmakers richer and that's given already. Personally I'm considering gambling as entertainment but at the same time I'm also expecting a return but I'm a matured gambler I can easily accept defeat as I experience it many times already in the past.

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February 27, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
 #1197

Sports betting or casinos can be considered as source of income for living, but the bitter truth, it requires patience and shouldn't go out of control. Most of the time people loss out of gambling due to emotional failure. This means people slowly make an earning, and by the end of the day due to greed of making big money and lack of self control empties the Wallet within minutes.
It can be. But not many people can be wise to use sports betting or casinos as their source of income because they want to win more after one or two wins on sports betting.
If they can hold their emotion from becoming greedy, they can use sports betting as a source of income, but they still manage their bankroll carefully.
It will no problem if they are slowly earning from sports betting because they will see that their income will become bigger, and once it becomes bigger, they should very carefully.
It's true that people can make gambling a source of income to live, but the problem is only a few people are able to control their emotions so as not
to be greedy. Because if we can't control greed, instead of being a source of income, gambling can be a source of trouble. Because those who
cannot control their emotions can become addicted. Will definitely have financial problems and his life will be ruined. So my advice is to keep our mind
off of making gambling a source of income, if indeed the risk is very large. Make gambling into entertainment, much more useful.
A greedy problem will be on every gambler, and it is not easy to control our emotions.
There will be a time that we can forget about controlling our greediness and want to chase bigger winning.
It happens many times to every gambler, and we know that only a few gamblers can make gambling a source of income to live, but they do not tell much about that.
As it says, the practice will be very difficult, but we must try to control it before we ruin ourselves and lose too much money in gambling.

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February 27, 2021, 02:19:35 PM
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As it says, the practice will be very difficult, but we must try to control it before we ruin ourselves and lose too much money in gambling.

Or maybe practice makes perfect.

You can actually do both, practice to win and be consistent in winning or practice on how to minimize your loses and stay discipline while gambling even if you are losing. When you master this, it will certainly not gonna put your finances at risk as you'll enjoy gambling regardless of the outcome.

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February 27, 2021, 02:41:26 PM
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As it says, the practice will be very difficult, but we must try to control it before we ruin ourselves and lose too much money in gambling.

Or maybe practice makes perfect.

You can actually do both, practice to win and be consistent in winning or practice on how to minimize your loses and stay discipline while gambling even if you are losing. When you master this, it will certainly not gonna put your finances at risk as you'll enjoy gambling regardless of the outcome.
Gambling is a profession, I know.  But this job is not long, and it cannot sustain you for life.  Consistency needs training, but is it possible to deny the threshold of ambition?  Very few people have success with gambling in both calculation and luck.  So, entertain and stop at the right time.  Gamblers are often rooted in nature. Grin

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February 27, 2021, 02:48:49 PM
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As it says, the practice will be very difficult, but we must try to control it before we ruin ourselves and lose too much money in gambling.

Or maybe practice makes perfect.

You can actually do both, practice to win and be consistent in winning or practice on how to minimize your loses and stay discipline while gambling even if you are losing. When you master this, it will certainly not gonna put your finances at risk as you'll enjoy gambling regardless of the outcome.
Actually when it comes into gambling there are the two result in there you can't have all luck all day long when it comes into gambling you can't even discipline yourself when it's live its hardly control our self when it comes to that whether we win or lose the emotion keep us wanting to win, but when your just practicing then why should you just risk money when you are not sure about one thing then maybe internet can help you to practice do some research about all you wanna learn and applied it to your self. Maybe in this pandemic those who hasn't job are into gambling this is the only way they can actually make a good money from it but just don't depends on luck it's all about skill.
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