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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
Total Voters: 117

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August 06, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
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Real are the more stable team now, they play well and don't slow down, while Barcelona have been rebuilding lately (can't say whether it's good or bad - the main thing is the result). Barcelona's squad is good, no doubt, but will they be able to play cohesively to produce a good result? That will become clear after the start of the season.
In any case, the game will show everything, but the main problem of Real Madrid as a club is that another year, one season has passed. The club's coolest players did not get one year younger when the team was providing results, when Barcelona grew a lot as a team last season thanks to Xavi's return to his hometown club, to his native penates. This season, let's hope that there will be fierce competition between these teams thanks to the simply jewelry work of the Barcelona management this offseason, despite the obvious financial problems. It is also thought that Diego Simeone and his Atletico will bring competition back to the permanent leaders of the championship, which he did not fully succeed in last season.

I think the financial problems have little effect on those players already playing for the club (I don't know if it's psychologically affected by the wage cut, I think not), so all the possibilities are right in front of them now. Real will sign new players sooner or later, change their style of play, but stay as strong... I hope it will be a spectacular championship this year Smiley

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August 06, 2022, 09:43:44 PM
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There is some news that says that Barcelona is now in danger of not being able to register its new players at this time. And if this really can't be overcome then it will be very difficult for them to make a breakthrough because their players will not be able to compete there, on the other hand they are also getting worse in the financial crisis so they really need to solve this problem if they really want to be in the world. championship chance.
Yes, there is news that Barcelona can't register their new players. Do they not allowed t register all the new players? If they can't register all new players, they are really in a trouble situation. Barcelona can't play as their expected without those new players. They also can't solve the financial crisis immediately. I don't know how Barcelona will face this situation, it is a very serious problem for sure.


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August 06, 2022, 09:48:55 PM
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There is some news that says that Barcelona is now in danger of not being able to register its new players at this time. And if this really can't be overcome then it will be very difficult for them to make a breakthrough because their players will not be able to compete there, on the other hand they are also getting worse in the financial crisis so they really need to solve this problem if they really want to be in the world. championship chance.
Yes, there is news that Barcelona can't register their new players. Do they not allowed t register all the new players? If they can't register all new players, they are really in a trouble situation. Barcelona can't play as their expected without those new players. They also can't solve the financial crisis immediately. I don't know how Barcelona will face this situation, it is a very serious problem for sure.



Joan Laporta already said that there are still problems with the registration, but they had to promise Lewandowski and his agent that as soon as they receive the permission to register another player, it will be Lewandowski first. I think they have four or five new players that could not yet be registered if I am not mistaken. That would be so crazy if you ask me. But he also said he is confident that it should work out before the season starts. I wonder why they can't just do some maths and then either tell someone that registration is possible or not. There must be financial rules in place that everybody in the league can comprehend.

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August 06, 2022, 09:53:12 PM
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Barcelona made a mistake in making calculations so they were threatened not to be able to register their five new players, to be honest I was a little surprised by the Barcelona management which was filled with great people but instead made a mistake in calculating the club income so that it was different from what the La Liga authorities currently have , I don't want to think negative but it looks like Barcelona are trying to play magic at this time to trick the Spanish League, I don't know what Barcelona  are thinking at this time, so they seem to keep creating problems for themselves and without realizing they will be stuck in the same hole again.
Yes, they seem to know this already but try that there is no problem with it. Wouldn't this be detrimental to the club itself? Even though we know that Barcelona looks like it's just about to rise, the new fans will be excited, especially with their strong squad this season.
However, it will not be optimal if this problem is not immediately resolved.
Meanwhile, Barcelona will soon start their first match against Rayo Vallecano, which Vallecano is not a small team.

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August 06, 2022, 10:41:28 PM
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Can't register a new player, this case is now heating up. Even I read other news Pique about Barcelona debts to him and threatened with lowering his salary. Where did Barcelona's money yesterday from the sale of broadcasting? isn't that big enough to pay off debts to their players? I seen other article Reportedly the purchase of Raphinha from Leeds, well I think still not finished quote a few sentences from there that I can understand because the money has not been received to Leeds, really? I'm really confused about barcelona management.
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One of the worries for Leeds was whether Barca had the money to pay for him, which is why the final contract included a penalty clause punishing late payment. Radrizzani says he expects the cash to arrive as agreed. “It would be ridiculous (if it did not), I could not imagine something like that happening,” he says. “If not, we will have a global case about Barcelona.”
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August 06, 2022, 10:42:53 PM
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I have also read that there are problems for Barcelona. They may not be allowed to sign up enough players for the Champions League. I don't know exactly what that would mean in terms of content. It does not seem to me that Barcelona is now not allowed to participate in the CL?
This is the first time I am getting to know about this. Wouldn't it be nice if you shared a link or source for further reading?

What I know is that they may not be able to register some of their new signings for La Liga if the wage bill terms are not met.
Yeah i've heard about the salary cap rules in la liga , and the last time la liga released the wage bill list ... barcelona are on negative! But it was back in march ... i'm not sure about the latest barcelona wage bill limit but what i can see that they are asking their players to reduce each of their saley to met this la liga requirement.

Pretty reasonable if they suspected to have some problems though.

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August 06, 2022, 11:42:55 PM
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I have also read that there are problems for Barcelona. They may not be allowed to sign up enough players for the Champions League. I don't know exactly what that would mean in terms of content. It does not seem to me that Barcelona is now not allowed to participate in the CL?
This is the first time I am getting to know about this. Wouldn't it be nice if you shared a link or source for further reading?

What I know is that they may not be able to register some of their new signings for La Liga if the wage bill terms are not met.
Yeah i've heard about the salary cap rules in la liga , and the last time la liga released the wage bill list ... barcelona are on negative! But it was back in march ... i'm not sure about the latest barcelona wage bill limit but what i can see that they are asking their players to reduce each of their saley to met this la liga requirement.

Pretty reasonable if they suspected to have some problems though.
The gap between la liga salary cap rules compared with barca yearly salary cap for the player is now having a huge gap. Barcelona needs to sell some and cut salary from so many players. I just wanna say that if barcelona must play fair by that. I do support what la liga does with it.
This to make sure if everything will be fair for another club as well.

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August 07, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
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Can't register a new player, this case is now heating up. Even I read other news Pique about Barcelona debts to him and threatened with lowering his salary. Where did Barcelona's money yesterday from the sale of broadcasting? isn't that big enough to pay off debts to their players? I seen other article Reportedly the purchase of Raphinha from Leeds, well I think still not finished quote a few sentences from there that I can understand because the money has not been received to Leeds, really? I'm really confused about barcelona management.
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One of the worries for Leeds was whether Barca had the money to pay for him, which is why the final contract included a penalty clause punishing late payment. Radrizzani says he expects the cash to arrive as agreed. “It would be ridiculous (if it did not), I could not imagine something like that happening,” he says. “If not, we will have a global case about Barcelona.”
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this happened because barcelona was too pushy. in the midst of the financial crisis they are experiencing. they are still hunting for expensive players. although it cannot be denied that this is the player they need.

however in the transfer market this season everything seems to be going very smoothly for Barcelona. And I didn't think there would be any problems after that. such as the difficulty of registering the players they just bought. due to a full salary slot. although some players will of course be sold to other clubs to free up slots. but still i'm a little worried about barcelona.

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August 07, 2022, 03:05:01 AM
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I have also read that there are problems for Barcelona. They may not be allowed to sign up enough players for the Champions League. I don't know exactly what that would mean in terms of content. It does not seem to me that Barcelona is now not allowed to participate in the CL? We have seen things like this before and in the end clubs can still participate. But it's bad for Barcelona's name that it's messed up again.

I honestly wouldnt let them register any players for domestic league or champions league. Barcelona has the biggest debt in football history and they sign and pay players still big fees and salaries this must come to an end. They shouldnt allow them to register any new players until they pay off some debt
La liga was aware about that. that's why barcelona can't register the new player again. I saw that if the team wanna selling more and more its broadcaster right to buy more and more players. Some players didn't even getting paid by the team but this team was using its financial for bad.
Buying player was good but once the financial was almost collapse and why don't this team use the existing player in the club instead of bring more players with huge yearly salary to the club?
The old player has become victim from this team caused by they must get a very big salary cut. Barcelona was taking very bad decision.

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August 07, 2022, 04:22:25 AM
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I have also read that there are problems for Barcelona. They may not be allowed to sign up enough players for the Champions League. I don't know exactly what that would mean in terms of content. It does not seem to me that Barcelona is now not allowed to participate in the CL? We have seen things like this before and in the end clubs can still participate. But it's bad for Barcelona's name that it's messed up again.
I honestly wouldnt let them register any players for domestic league or champions league. Barcelona has the biggest debt in football history and they sign and pay players still big fees and salaries this must come to an end. They shouldnt allow them to register any new players until they pay off some debt
La liga was aware about that. that's why barcelona can't register the new player again. I saw that if the team wanna selling more and more its broadcaster right to buy more and more players. Some players didn't even getting paid by the team but this team was using its financial for bad.
Buying player was good but once the financial was almost collapse and why don't this team use the existing player in the club instead of bring more players with huge yearly salary to the club?
The old player has become victim from this team caused by they must get a very big salary cut. Barcelona was taking very bad decision.

Barcelona has been in financial trouble for the last few years. Yet Xavi has bought and spent a lot of money since taking over the team. Barcelona can't pay properly to the players. And they cut almost every player's salary. However, they have spent a lot of money to bring in new players. I don't know how Barcelona will pay the new player's wages. Barcelona should cut extra costs. Otherwise, they will face a bigger financial crisis in the next few years.

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August 07, 2022, 04:53:21 AM
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The gap between la liga salary cap rules compared with barca yearly salary cap for the player is now having a huge gap. Barcelona needs to sell some and cut salary from so many players. I just wanna say that if barcelona must play fair by that. I do support what la liga does with it.
This to make sure if everything will be fair for another club as well.
The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.

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August 07, 2022, 05:02:39 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.

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August 07, 2022, 05:43:39 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.

That has been a norm for Barcelona by using young players.
But they need to win trophies and titles so they can pay off some debts
It was same during the Xavi and Messi and Inesta, they can't use such players if they want to bag those award's home.

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August 07, 2022, 05:52:26 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.

That has been a norm for Barcelona by using young players.
But they need to win trophies and titles so they can pay off some debts
It was same during the Xavi and Messi and Inesta, they can't use such players if they want to bag those award's home.
Barcelona are in a very bad state now and if they only rely on young players then it is very unlikely that they will be able to compete with their rivals for the title, so choosing to recruit star players is one way for Barcelona to excel.
their financial problems are now getting worse with bad news coverage but I think it will be able to be overcome if their performance can be as expected by bringing in a lot of star players.
for a big team like Barcelona I would not doubt it as they have done beyond the expectations of many people in this transfer market, those who are experiencing a financial crisis but they are also the ones who bring in a lot of new players.



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August 07, 2022, 06:08:35 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.
For some reason this characteristic seems to be missing for Barcelona now because indeed when looking at the previous few seasons, especially with their golden era, it is quite clear that they are proud of their La Masia seeds but this seems to have disappeared in the last few seasons and the worst is this season. .
They forget things like they should and are busy for instant business even though they are struggling financially.

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August 07, 2022, 07:27:50 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.
Sometimes in business you have to spend money to get more money. Barcelona are quality and talented players that are expensive to win trophies,  winning trophies will bring money to them to pay up debts.  If Barcelona don't signing good players it will affect the club in so many ways.
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August 07, 2022, 07:52:15 AM
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The problem is they always do a lot of drama especially in some of the transfers they make for their players.
Look at some time ago when they always made drama when De Jong was there, on the other hand at this time they also still have some drama for Depay.
In fact, when they want to sell their players without excessive drama, then things like this can be minimized.
One of the ways for Barca to resolve this financial woes is that they should turn their focus on integrating homegrown talent instead of expensive transfers, somehow I just do not see that happening. I think they will not learn the right lessons and keep chasing the big transfer as a magic panacea to their on field problems. Let's face it they elected the same guy that was running the club so it's unlikely things will change.
For some reason this characteristic seems to be missing for Barcelona now because indeed when looking at the previous few seasons, especially with their golden era, it is quite clear that they are proud of their La Masia seeds but this seems to have disappeared in the last few seasons and the worst is this season. .
They forget things like they should and are busy for instant business even though they are struggling financially.

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August 07, 2022, 07:52:51 AM
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Barcelona has been in financial trouble for the last few years. Yet Xavi has bought and spent a lot of money since taking over the team. Barcelona can't pay properly to the players. And they cut almost every player's salary. However, they have spent a lot of money to bring in new players. I don't know how Barcelona will pay the new player's wages. Barcelona should cut extra costs. Otherwise, they will face a bigger financial crisis in the next few years.

And where did you see the information that Barcelona cut the salary of almost every player? Barcelona had problems when Xavi came to the team, but despite the problems, he managed to establish a game in the team. Not always money should be the decisive factor, although now everything goes like this - money is the main thing. Last year there were restrictions on attending matches, fans bought very few tickets, this year the situation should be better.

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August 07, 2022, 08:19:57 AM
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Barcelona has been in financial trouble for the last few years. Yet Xavi has bought and spent a lot of money since taking over the team. Barcelona can't pay properly to the players. And they cut almost every player's salary. However, they have spent a lot of money to bring in new players. I don't know how Barcelona will pay the new player's wages. Barcelona should cut extra costs. Otherwise, they will face a bigger financial crisis in the next few years.

And where did you see the information that Barcelona cut the salary of almost every player? Barcelona had problems when Xavi came to the team, but despite the problems, he managed to establish a game in the team. Not always money should be the decisive factor, although now everything goes like this - money is the main thing. Last year there were restrictions on attending matches, fans bought very few tickets, this year the situation should be better.

true, money shouldn't be a deterrent
in any case in modern football the salaries for the players are too high
player transfers are insane

too much money, a roof should be put in place, since the teams cannot decide

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August 07, 2022, 08:22:25 AM
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In fact you are right, the salaries are really high. I agree with you.
I don't quite remember which of the players made every minute how much a normal person earned in a day's work. Maybe Del Piero.
Ok they are good, they are professionals, they are athletes. In fact, the salaries are a bit high.

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