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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.6%)
Real Madrid - 79 (66.9%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
Total Voters: 118

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July 25, 2022, 09:23:56 PM
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What do you mean? Messi's return won't be too bad for the team I think, but only if their financial situation improves, even if it's a year from now. I think Leo himself would very much like to finish his career at Barcelona, probably why the door to this team is not closed to him. And in principle he has a pretty good relationship with the management and the team

I don't think that Messi's return would be good. Because the thing Xavi is trying to do for the team is completely different. He isn't building their game over a specific player. He is caring about playing strong as a team the most. In this situation I don't find it logical to bring back Messi. However if they want to bring Messi to retire him at his legend team then it is different of course. They can still sign him to do so but I wouldn't expect a change in Xavi's strategies for him.

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July 25, 2022, 09:33:52 PM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.
Messi returning to Barcelona might happen and I think it will happen next season. For this summer, Barcelona seems very unlikely to sign Messi because Barcelona currently have Raphinha and Lewandowski, so Xavi intention to bring Messi could come true next season because Barcelona financial situation is currently unstable. In order to bring in Lewandowski and Raphinha alone Juan Laporta had to activate the second lever on the sale of 15% broadcast rights to Sixth Street and from that deal Barcelona got the funding to bring in players in this summer's window.
Messi is really missed by Barcelona fans because he is a Barcelona legend who has brought Barcelona to great success when Messi was still with Barcelona. I think we have a great chance to see messi and lewandowski play together in barcelona and hope that happens next season.

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July 25, 2022, 09:34:24 PM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.
What do you mean? Messi's return won't be too bad for the team I think, but only if their financial situation improves, even if it's a year from now. I think Leo himself would very much like to finish his career at Barcelona, probably why the door to this team is not closed to him. And in principle he has a pretty good relationship with the management and the team
Right now, relationship is nothing had anything with this all because financial position is most important, and they are in deep trouble but still sign few top ranked players with very high price and still they have to manage their salary for all year which is surely going to be another headache.

Messi leaves this club just because of these issues, and now they are not in position to bring him back, and even they could not be in next one or two years they need some good system and work for this all which is time-consuming with this all most chances he is going to end his career at PSG because with his salary and game no other club are going to accept him in next one or two years specially Barcelona.

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July 25, 2022, 09:35:39 PM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

If we look at the current Barcelona squad, it seems that Messi's presence is no longer needed. After all, Barcelona has been able to escape from
the shadow of Messi now. But if indeed Messi wants to end his career at Barcelona there is nothing wrong with accepting Messi back,  but of course
it is impossible for Messi to come this year, because Messi still has one more year contract at PSG. Messi could possibly join Barcelona in the summer of
2023 when his contract with PSG expires.

There are rumors that Xavi wants to bring Messi back to Barcelona, because Xavi assessed Messi's presence could increase economic income,
and also Messi who is a Barcelona legend can provide motivation to other players at Barcelona. This could become a reality if PSG did not renew
Messi's contract, because it is reported that PSG also intends to extend Messi's contract even though Messi's performance was not satisfactory
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In the end only Messi can determine his own future, we will see what decision Messi will make.

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July 25, 2022, 09:55:48 PM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw
Gosh! Why does Barcelona always steal expected players to sign by Chelsea? I don't know what's happening with Barcelona scouts, did they do this intentionally? I'm sure Chelsea won't happy with Barcelona attitude, especially when the players already agreed to join Chelsea and they got a deal with the transfer fees.

I don't know Why Barcelona becomes very active in this transfer window. They even don't doubt if signing too many players will cause a problem on players' salaries then. Myabe Barcelona gets big sponsorships that want to give them a huge amount of money.


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July 25, 2022, 09:56:12 PM
 #25166

The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

If we look at the current Barcelona squad, it seems that Messi's presence is no longer needed. After all, Barcelona has been able to escape from
the shadow of Messi now. But if indeed Messi wants to end his career at Barcelona there is nothing wrong with accepting Messi back,  but of course
it is impossible for Messi to come this year, because Messi still has one more year contract at PSG. Messi could possibly join Barcelona in the summer of
2023 when his contract with PSG expires.

There are rumors that Xavi wants to bring Messi back to Barcelona, because Xavi assessed Messi's presence could increase economic income,
and also Messi who is a Barcelona legend can provide motivation to other players at Barcelona. This could become a reality if PSG did not renew
Messi's contract, because it is reported that PSG also intends to extend Messi's contract even though Messi's performance was not satisfactory
last season. The reason is Messi can attract many sponsors and also the high income from merchandise, it makes PSG's income increase.
In the end only Messi can determine his own future, we will see what decision Messi will make.

Well if these rumors are true I would like it to be like that, because Barcelona I don't know how they have done it, but with almost no money they have achieved very good signings, I am surprised that even Lewa has been taken away, I would like him to return to Barceñpma because I think that Messi is when he explodes with his talent, on the other hand, I saw a notice on a social network, maybe it's fake, but they said that CR7 is very likely to go to Real Madrid, if this is so, yes, I would like it see now more than ever those impressive classics, and this is where the saying that "the good son comes home" fully applies, if things happen like this it would be exciting to relive those moments where those two great players were fighting for a Spanish league and at the same time by the UCL.

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July 25, 2022, 10:06:34 PM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw
Gosh! Why does Barcelona always steal expected players to sign by Chelsea? I don't know what's happening with Barcelona scouts, did they do this intentionally? I'm sure Chelsea won't happy with Barcelona attitude, especially when the players already agreed to join Chelsea and they got a deal with the transfer fees.

I don't know Why Barcelona becomes very active in this transfer window. They even don't doubt if signing too many players will cause a problem on players' salaries then. Myabe Barcelona gets big sponsorships that want to give them a huge amount of money.
Barcelona always steals the attention because a lot of expensive players are brought in, now Jules Kunde is really aggressive but when he bought another player with De Jong, he could only surrender while still staying here his salary had to be cut in half, I think he should leave if you want to match him in his financial salary.

It's true that Chelsea always loses in getting players in the transfer window because at this time it was Chelsea who was rumored before but Barcelona is now getting more and more with a personal proposal for Kounde.
Like his Barceloan never thought about his financial crisis.

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The player who had just signed for Barcelona in this season's transfer window really enjoyed his first El Clasico even though it was only in Friendly Match. This match is very happy for Raphinha because before the match started he was very confident to beat Madrid, he also wanted to score in his first El Clasico, and he proved it. Barcelona managed to beat Madrid through the only goal scored by Raphinha in the 27th minute.
Raphinha made a pretty incredible shot from outside the penalty box by successfully nesting in the real madrid goal. Raphinha is a player who makes the difference in Xavi words and this was proven in the El clasico match last night, Raphinha was able to present a beautiful goal for Barcelona victory over real madrid. Yes, even though this is just a friendly match, but this is a match that Raphinha dreams of with Barcelona. Xavi even highly praised the appearance of the Brazilian bomber, he is a player who is really needed, that's what Xavi said. In addition, Xavi assesses that his current squad is really ready for next season competition. I think Barcelona will play a more aggressive game in the early matches of next season.

It is always great to see a player scoring his first goal for his new team. But this was a friendly match and if I was the coach of Barcelona I would have told him that the team expects a lot more from him and even though he did a good job getting the win for Barcelona in this match he will have to continue the good work going into that future.

And the coach should remember that Barcelona spent a fortune in the transfer market. If this was any other time I wouldn’t have said that. But right now hundred million is obviously a fortune to spend on Barcelona. So the coach will soon be under a certain amount of pressure and will always be trying to get a good result with this team.

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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.
. It can't be possible for Messi to return to Barcelona because Barcelona can't afford to sign him, it won't be easy for them to make that move. Signing Lewandowski to Barcelona was not easy Barcelona which took sometime , Messi transfer to Barcelona can't be real.

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Barcelona are likely to keep Frenkie de Jong in the team now. However there are so many midfielders in the squad at the same time. I don't know whether they are thinking of finding a solution for this. Having too many alternatives in the team can cause some of those players to get really sad in time. This would cause serious in-team problems. I hope that Xavi has plans about this topic and they can sell some players while buying too.
On the other hand I heard that Barcelona will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. It would be tough for the players in my opinion if the situation was like this, unless De Jong was willing and preferred loyalty to Barcelona. We know that Barcelona's spending in this transfer market is quite expensive, because their financial situation is also not good. Let's wait for the final decision of this player.

Am I the only one who cannot get his head around this transfer? In my opinion, Barcelona brought in a player who will perform well and for a long time at the club, it's Raphinha. But I really don't understand how Barcelona is managing to get this money and I also don't understand how they are able to manage their finances going forward. And why does it feel like Barcelona is not worried about their finances at all?

Already they signed Raphinha, Robert Lewandowski, Franck Kessié, Andreas Christensen. And I really hope that they don't make any big transfers like this soon. Now they should concentrate on selling the players that are not very critical to the squad right now.

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Am I the only one who cannot get his head around this transfer? In my opinion, Barcelona brought in a player who will perform well and for a long time at the club, it's Raphinha. But I really don't understand how Barcelona is managing to get this money and I also don't understand how they are able to manage their finances going forward. And why does it feel like Barcelona is not worried about their finances at all?

Already they signed Raphinha, Robert Lewandowski, Franck Kessié, Andreas Christensen. And I really hope that they don't make any big transfers like this soon. Now they should concentrate on selling the players that are not very critical to the squad right now.
At first I was quite surprised also because Barca could afford some players who had quite expensive prices. But what I know is that Barca have been doing financial structuring, by selling the broadcasting rights for longer.
In addition, they actually still have player salary debts. For example, regarding De Jong's salary. At the beginning of the difficulty they offered a pay cut that was ready to be paid in 2023. And it looks like it's this issue that makes negotiations with Man United difficult because they have to pay for barca's claustrophobic.

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July 25, 2022, 11:04:55 PM
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Barcelona are likely to keep Frenkie de Jong in the team now. However there are so many midfielders in the squad at the same time. I don't know whether they are thinking of finding a solution for this. Having too many alternatives in the team can cause some of those players to get really sad in time. This would cause serious in-team problems. I hope that Xavi has plans about this topic and they can sell some players while buying too.
On the other hand I heard that Barcelona will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. It would be tough for the players in my opinion if the situation was like this, unless De Jong was willing and preferred loyalty to Barcelona. We know that Barcelona's spending in this transfer market is quite expensive, because their financial situation is also not good. Let's wait for the final decision of this player.

This might affect his decision then. However there is another fact that can be really important for Frenkie de Jong. Barcelona are in the Champions League while Manchester United aren't. Therefore maybe Frenkie de Jong would rather stay and play in the biggest tournament. In the end Frenkie de Jong hasn't had any special desire to leave the team so far. Manchester United might need to prepare a contract that is too hard to reject for him to be able to convince him but it still looks difficult.

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July 25, 2022, 11:14:08 PM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

What do you mean? Messi's return won't be too bad for the team I think, but only if their financial situation improves, even if it's a year from now. I think Leo himself would very much like to finish his career at Barcelona, probably why the door to this team is not closed to him. And in principle he has a pretty good relationship with the management and the team

the current coach of barcelona is building a team where they don't just depend on a single player to be successful, so why would they take messi back? does not make sense. on the other hand messi is at PSG and they are counting on him, when he moved to PSG he should have already imagined that he can finish his career at PS, he is not young enough to change teams, he needs to be aware that he has to be on a team until you retire

Barcelona are likely to keep Frenkie de Jong in the team now. However there are so many midfielders in the squad at the same time. I don't know whether they are thinking of finding a solution for this. Having too many alternatives in the team can cause some of those players to get really sad in time. This would cause serious in-team problems. I hope that Xavi has plans about this topic and they can sell some players while buying too.
On the other hand I heard that Barcelona will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. It would be tough for the players in my opinion if the situation was like this, unless De Jong was willing and preferred loyalty to Barcelona. We know that Barcelona's spending in this transfer market is quite expensive, because their financial situation is also not good. Let's wait for the final decision of this player.

This might affect his decision then. However there is another fact that can be really important for Frenkie de Jong. Barcelona are in the Champions League while Manchester United aren't. Therefore maybe Frenkie de Jong would rather stay and play in the biggest tournament. In the end Frenkie de Jong hasn't had any special desire to leave the team so far. Manchester United might need to prepare a contract that is too hard to reject for him to be able to convince him but it still looks difficult.

the question is if he will constantly play in barcelona and how will his salary be in barcelona, these are two points that make a player leave a team

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July 25, 2022, 11:22:21 PM
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Gosh! Why does Barcelona always steal expected players to sign by Chelsea? ......snip

I don't know Why Barcelona becomes very active in this transfer window. They even don't doubt if signing too many players will cause a problem on players' salaries then. Myabe Barcelona gets big sponsorships that want to give them a huge amount of money.
It's true that Chelsea always loses in getting players in the transfer window because at this time it was Chelsea who was rumored before but Barcelona is now getting more and more with a personal proposal for Kounde.
Like his Barceloan never thought about his financial crisis.
No doubt, Barcelona's activity during this transfer window is very active. They are very sure that they can be out of the financial crisis because right now, they may be able to get more sponsorship from big payers brought, from ticket sales, and also other possibilities, In this case, why should players that are closed to Chelsea? I don't know if there is the certain intention or not by Barcelona to stop Chelsea. But at least, the players that they want are good players, of course, they are willing to have them. Moreover, Barcelona's intention to the public right now is getting better and better, they may be considered to come back again this season. That is why it may be easier to attract more players to choose Barcelona.
This very active activity may be dangerous also for them. We still remember how Barcelona have the crisis of financial, one of the reasons is becuase of so many player purcahses but not really significant.

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July 25, 2022, 11:26:45 PM
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Am I the only one who cannot get his head around this transfer? In my opinion, Barcelona brought in a player who will perform well and for a long time at the club, it's Raphinha. But I really don't understand how Barcelona is managing to get this money and I also don't understand how they are able to manage their finances going forward. And why does it feel like Barcelona is not worried about their finances at all?

Already they signed Raphinha, Robert Lewandowski, Franck Kessié, Andreas Christensen. And I really hope that they don't make any big transfers like this soon. Now they should concentrate on selling the players that are not very critical to the squad right now.
At first I was quite surprised also because Barca could afford some players who had quite expensive prices. But what I know is that Barca have been doing financial structuring, by selling the broadcasting rights for longer.
In addition, they actually still have player salary debts. For example, regarding De Jong's salary. At the beginning of the difficulty they offered a pay cut that was ready to be paid in 2023. And it looks like it's this issue that makes negotiations with Man United difficult because they have to pay for barca's claustrophobic.
Barcelona is now starting to bring in a lot of quality players even though their are still in financial problems but they are still an attraction for great players, not only you, all of us here are quite surprised by the situation of Barcelona which continues to bring in star players with the condition of the club still being wrapped up in a lot of trouble. debt, even now it is reported that they will be one step away from getting kounde from sevilla as their fifth new player, speaking of the transfers de jong saga, I think there will still be drama for a long time because between de jong and barcelona have different views on the issue his  salary and career current, if de jong wants to take a salary cut of more than 40% then Barcelona will not sell de jong, but if de jong continues to want his current salary then Barcelona will have to let de jong go to make room for the new players.
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July 25, 2022, 11:48:24 PM
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I think there is no question about his age, he is still very athletic and has high mobility. As long as he stays at Manchester united, the champions league will be a dream for him. He seems restless because he didn't have the competition he wanted in Manchester united, maybe there might even be a few players he couldn't get along with.
Agree. Although he is 37 years old, he has no problem with his fitness and even he still has a big ambition to win any prestigious titles.
Sure, he won't have a chance to play in UCL and win trophies if he decides to stay with Man United. Man United players aren't competitive enough and can't play as a solid team. It is true that some players can't cooperate as teammates, they are too egoistic and think they can do better. I saw many times that Ronaldo cannot get the opportunity to be a penalty kicker or given a chance to execute a free kick. As the result, some of them failed to execute both the penalty and free kick. According to this reason, I can understand why Ronaldo really wants to leave.


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July 26, 2022, 02:00:38 AM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.
I hope people don't misunderstand what Joan Laporta said. because Joan Laporta intends to again seduce Messi to return when Messi's contract with PSG ends. and now messi still has 1 year contract left with PSG.
if for now then barcelona is not possible to bring back messi. apart from financial problems. but also because of messi's contract that still has 1 year remaining with PSG. But we don't know for next year. maybe next year Barcelona's financial problems will improve. so that when Messi's contract with PSG ends, Barcelona can immediately make a high bid to get Messi back.

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July 26, 2022, 02:03:58 AM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.
Barce will be facing financial fair play if this team didn't tried to sell some of its players. I was also getting surprised to see that happens with kounde that being hijacked by barcelona. I heard that if barcelona still owes salary from some of its players like de jong.
That's also the reason why de jong didn't wanna to leave the team. The funds that used to bought the players must become a very interesting topic to be talked.
It seems barcelona has unlimited money.  Cheesy

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July 26, 2022, 02:22:42 AM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.

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July 26, 2022, 04:19:37 AM
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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

I agree with you, because Barcelona coach has signed in some potential players that have more strength and energy to play full game without getting tire until they achieve victory at the end of the match. I don't think, Barcelona need Messi before they can achieve next season title because the new young talented players they signed in into the team are very good to help the team to stand well in this season. It will be difficult for Barcelona to miss next season title, because all those new talented squads are fully ready to introduce more tactics that will make the team to go far in many competitions.

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